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Post by robomanalpha on May 10, 2017 11:09:54 GMT -5
Tulumbus fires while reloading! As pins! and piniata And orkans have 15% more damage! Coming up in new update.. now gone live on live servers on Android..
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 11:14:09 GMT -5
Stupid. Buffing some of the most overpowered weapons in game. Nice job Pix.
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Post by Vectivus on May 10, 2017 11:15:45 GMT -5
Doesn't bode very well for the shield-bots.
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Post by War Child on May 10, 2017 11:17:59 GMT -5
Stupid. Buffing some of the most overpowered weapons in game. Nice job Pix. ...I don't get it,how are they overpowered exactly?To me,I think it's plasma thats a bit too OP,too much dpm and dps with high accuracy.Only counter are shields and to counter shields,one must use rockets.Besides aren't the favored setups for the brit bots plasma?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 11:24:24 GMT -5
...I don't get it,how are they overpowered exactly?To me,I think it's plasma thats a bit too OP,too much dpm and dps with high accuracy.Only counter are shields and to counter shields,one must use rockets.Besides aren't the favored setups for the brit bots plasma? If everyone bases their weapons off of Thunder, Ancile, Orkan, Taran, Magnum, Pinata and Aphids, and their bots of Galahad, Fury, Griffin and Lancelot, there must be something about them. This takes out even more skill out of the game. Lights and mediums cannot plan their attacks now, since if a Russian Griffin can fight back after their initial salvo, there does the ambush strategy.
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on May 10, 2017 11:24:30 GMT -5
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Post by adrenachrome on May 10, 2017 11:26:57 GMT -5
Great.... Orkans needed to be even more OP
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Post by SGT D00M! on May 10, 2017 11:29:06 GMT -5
I like the tulumbus update as I currently have a Fujin in my mid-range slot and it will help the rog RDB as well, BUT, the pins and pinatas seems like to much. They helped varied play style and I fear that charge in guns blazing will be the new norm. I also like the Orkan buff as the Orkan has had a "secret nerf" recently and unloads slower. So end state....mixed feelings.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on May 10, 2017 11:32:16 GMT -5
Thank God..now the Ancile and Lance spammers are in for it...bout time. The 4 Tulu Doc is gonna rip new bum holes.
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Post by snk on May 10, 2017 11:33:50 GMT -5
Tulumbus fires while reloading! As pins! And orkans have 15% more damage! Coming up in new update.. Good news for RBD, they can shoot every 10secs now........both tulumbus and pin. What about Piñata?
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Post by cheap on May 10, 2017 11:35:10 GMT -5
i love tulumbus an pins on my griff an even i think the buff is a very bad idea. i mean why get an orkan in the first place now. makes me think i wasted gold buying mine.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 11:36:24 GMT -5
Doesn't bode very well for the shield-bots. I had a feeling that physical shielded bots would be brought down a notch, in some way or manner. At one point the Boa was the best bot in the game, and just prior to the knights, Rhinos seemed the bot of choice. Nerfs and upgrades happen, so I have been very hesitant to spend a bunch of gold on Lances and Galahads and instead I am maxing a hanger with 3 griffins (one plasma & 2 Orkan), a Rog, and I use a Trident Carnage as my long range bot.
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Post by robomanalpha on May 10, 2017 11:40:44 GMT -5
Tulumbus fires while reloading! As pins! And orkans have 15% more damage! Coming up in new update.. Good news for RBD, they can shoot every 10secs now........both tulumbus and pin. What about Piñata? Piniatas too!!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 10, 2017 11:41:18 GMT -5
As far as the reload while firing for Pins and Tulus, on the TS I found it to be not that big of a deal.
I think, though, that to keep Orks as gold weapons, they had to do the buff if they did not nerf the other weapons when adding the reload while firing mechanic. Either way, at first I was very opposed to the idea, then I played with them on the TS and was underwhelmed. They shoot very slowly compared to the Orks. The Reload While Firing is based off of the weapons reload speed. So, for the Pin... I believe they take 8 seconds to reload 4 rockets.. something like that. So, they will be able to reload while firing 1 Pin rocket every 2 seconds. That is NOT a game changer and won't really make a huge difference in the overall scheme of things, in my mind.
The Ork buff... well, after the way it has seemed to be lacking in splash damage lately, (or maybe it is lag or maybe we are just so used to Tridents that we just can't accept that the small splash radius of Orks is there... IDK) the buff may actually be legit needed.
In other words for this one, after being wrong, initially, about how the RDB would be unstoppable with this change (which, it is most assuredly NOT!) I reserve judgment until the change actually hits. Not really going to affect shield bots too much more than it already does... they already melt to Ork salvos. Did that 15% buff make the Gekkos OP and unstoppable? Does anyone even remember that they got a buff a few updates ago? Just sayin...
IMO, YMMV
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 11:44:37 GMT -5
They have to start nerfing some stuff IMO. How many buffs did we get without a nerf? I believe the last nerf was the Lancelot's shield getting a measly 10% HP reduction.
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Post by drake1588 on May 10, 2017 11:47:52 GMT -5
I definitely am welcoming the change. There was nothing particularly viable from 350-550 range and it felt clunky waiting 18s for tulumbad to reload
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 10, 2017 11:48:32 GMT -5
They have to start nerfing some stuff IMO. How many buffs did we get without a nerf? I believe the last nerf was the Lancelot's shield getting a measly 10% HP reduction. I am absolutely shocked to hear that coming from you Dark!
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Post by Why? on May 10, 2017 11:53:43 GMT -5
Uhh if the reload mechanic thing is same from TS, then is a damage nerf following?
if it is, and believe me, even with the reload mechanic, Pinata, Pins and Tulus are not much useful compared to before. Played in TS, extremely underwhelmed.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 11:58:27 GMT -5
For every buff there should be a nerf. If they want to buff Tulumbas, Pins, Pinatas and Orkans, there should be a respectable nerf to the Griffin and Lancelot.
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Post by Jame-thon on May 10, 2017 11:58:46 GMT -5
I agree with what Tricky was saying with the update. I don't think it'll be as big of a game changer as people think. It'll be nice to not always wait so long for the full reload of a Tulu but it's not going to be drastic. Especially if the game mechanics of a typical reload apply to the per second reload. We will probably see some more RDB's again as they were slowly getting less used. Just my opinion on this too.
I think buffs and updates are fine. Nerfs are not especially if people spend gold on an item. You can't downgrade a purchased product with a certain promised characteristic even if it overpowered. It just goes against client/purchaser principles. You have to tweak others to match or counter it if anything which is what they are doing imo.
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Post by jazzykat on May 10, 2017 11:59:22 GMT -5
Orkans now with 15% more damage! I've got 4 already and 7000+ Au burning a hole in my pocket. It's time to make the "Orkan Man Hangar" full of Fujins and Docs! :0
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on May 10, 2017 12:07:06 GMT -5
So! Let's do some math. Previously, my beloved Orkan Fujin could deal 154,116, assuming that every rockets hits. Of course, this is not ideal, especially with the proliferation of Lancelots and Rhinos charging center points quickly, and even so, they'd still have a good chance to retaliate as you landed the last 8-13 rockets at the slower rate to finish them off.
Now, we have 1427 damage per rocket, times 36 rockets per salvo, times 3 R40M Orkans, multiplied by 115% to give a whopping total of 177,233.4 damage per volley, enough to instantly end a Lancelot or a Rhino, even at LVL 12. /maniacal laughter
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Post by mechtout on May 10, 2017 12:12:21 GMT -5
First upgrade anciles, now upgrade orkans. Back to square one. Thats called making yourself (pix) look busy.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 10, 2017 12:17:30 GMT -5
For every buff there should be a nerf. If they want to buff Tulumbas, Pins, Pinatas and Orkans, there should be a respectable nerf to the Griffin and Lancelot. I don't know why you think that... if you really look at it... the Britbots... the ones you want nerfed so badly according to previos posts, will be getting an indirect nerf if this hits. So, another nerf on top of that.. by your logic, would mean we need another buff... and then we'd need another nerf... and another buff... DEAR GOD when would it end?!? This has inspired me to poetry... Nerf the Nerfhammer, Nerf the tears. Nerf the fallacy that a nerf is needed! Nerf the fears! -trickylongfellowhemingwaywhitman48
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 12:23:23 GMT -5
I don't know why you think that... if you really look at it... the Britbots... the ones you want nerfed so badly according to previos posts, will be getting an indirect nerf if this hits. So, another nerf on top of that.. by your logic, would mean we need another buff... and then we'd need another nerf... and another buff... DEAR GOD when would it end?!? An indirect nerf caused by a buff is not the same thing as a nerf.
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Post by vin5240 on May 10, 2017 12:32:26 GMT -5
The tulum and pin will be nice to make up for the long reload time to reach full capacity, but I think firing while reloading you do less damage than if you saved up and fired at once.
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Post by SuperHero on May 10, 2017 12:35:16 GMT -5
Sigh. All complain and say that things (especially costing gold) should never be nerfed. So Pix doesn't and just improves counters. And yet we still complain. Smh
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Post by Firebeard on May 10, 2017 12:42:56 GMT -5
Wait! .. Pins fire while reloading? .. Dear God
The Buffs' and Nerfs' do need to cease, though. Soon there will be little tactics and strategies left to the game - just a Run and Gun with all weapons and Mecha equal making choice moot.
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Post by nycdubs on May 10, 2017 12:46:08 GMT -5
Where is this information posted?
Any changes to Hydra?
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Post by CrownBlack on May 10, 2017 12:49:33 GMT -5
Tulumbus fires while reloading! As pins! and piniata And orkans have 15% more damage! Coming up in new update.. sorry I am not completely buying this just based off $$$. Why would anyone spend money(gold) on Orks when you can get a Tulu for just silver???. Take this and add another 200m and its a no brainer.
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