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Post by Duodec on May 10, 2017 21:31:02 GMT -5
I'm sorry but can someone pls explain to me what means by "fires while reloading"? does it like the function of Orkan? Exactly like it, except probably a slower firing rate while reloading.
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Post by tonysjaeger on May 10, 2017 21:36:09 GMT -5
I'm sorry but can someone pls explain to me what means by "fires while reloading"? does it like the function of Orkan? Exactly like it, except probably a slower firing rate while reloading. understood, still fun because you can fire while you hide or enemies bots just need to be fired about 3 or 4 missiles I think
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Post by Sebenza 21 on May 10, 2017 21:49:23 GMT -5
Will the Tulu Doc still be the one to keep fury's and nat's from stepping out of cover on Shenzhen or will RDB Griff be just as effective at that now?
Does the Doc need a buff?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 22:46:28 GMT -5
Will the Tulu Doc still be the one to keep fury's and nat's from stepping out of cover on Shenzhen or will RDB Griff be just as effective at that now? Does the Doc need a buff? Doc is still faster than Galahad (albeit slightly) and still the only bot capable of firing 32 500M rockets. Griffins require one to commit to their action plan, Doc does not. The continuous fire just means Tulu Doc will never have to waste a quick draw activation, or be hindered by it. RDB Griff will fire 4 rockets approximately every 4 seconds on reload fire, while Doc only fires 2, Doc doesn't have to worry about being stuck on reload fire for it's next encounter. Imho, doc will be the bot that fires it's full salvo the least due to it's mobility, but, or used right, still has enough burst DPS to knock off whatever the player gauges doc CAN kill in a full salvo. Meanwhile a Griffin without jump readily available will be shredded. Quickly. Honestly, I think Aphid Tulu Griffin might have an uptick, both with those grinding out orkans, and those that play RDB Griff as direct support. Not being forced to use all of the Tulu rockets, and having rockets readily available when Aphids are loaded, along with compatible ranges that don't interfere with each other,gives this setup a bit more flexibility than Ork/Aphid. Aphid/ork combo is the only combo currently in the game where tapping the red button to unleash Aphids doesn't harm your ammo count, as Orks reload almost immediately.
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Post by Sebenza 21 on May 10, 2017 23:25:04 GMT -5
Will the Tulu Doc still be the one to keep fury's and nat's from stepping out of cover on Shenzhen or will RDB Griff be just as effective at that now? Does the Doc need a buff? Doc is still faster than Galahad (albeit slightly) and still the only bot capable of firing 32 500M rockets. Griffins require one to commit to their action plan, Doc does not. The continuous fire just means Tulu Doc will never have to waste a quick draw activation, or be hindered by it. RDB Griff will fire 4 rockets approximately every 4 seconds on reload fire, while Doc only fires 2, Doc doesn't have to worry about being stuck on reload fire for it's next encounter. Imho, doc will be the bot that fires it's full salvo the least due to it's mobility, but, or used right, still has enough burst DPS to knock off whatever the player gauges doc CAN kill in a full salvo. Meanwhile a Griffin without jump readily available will be shredded. Quickly. Honestly, I think Aphid Tulu Griffin might have an uptick, both with those grinding out orkans, and those that play RDB Griff as direct support. Not being forced to use all of the Tulu rockets, and having rockets readily available when Aphids are loaded, along with compatible ranges that don't interfere with each other,gives this setup a bit more flexibility than Ork/Aphid. Aphid/ork combo is the only combo currently in the game where tapping the red button to unleash Aphids doesn't harm your ammo count, as Orks reload almost immediately. Good points, another build that might become more popular could be the pinatas patton. Slower reload than a orkan rog but the same burst damage. Edit: oops, just realised the orkan extra 15% damage buff will put it ahead of a pinatas patton.
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Post by procrastinatron on May 10, 2017 23:31:03 GMT -5
This is great. Heh. Goodluck to stalkers and gareths playing hit n run with my rdb. My bug spray finally comes. The question is when will it arrive?
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Post by maxboxer on May 11, 2017 1:43:29 GMT -5
This is great. Heh. Goodluck to stalkers and gareths playing hit n run with my rdb. My bug spray finally comes. The question is when will it arrive? And then...can we Hope to get our thul pin & pinata updated or get all new? I've a storage fullfilled whith them...
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Post by War Child on May 11, 2017 2:34:42 GMT -5
This is great. Heh. Goodluck to stalkers and gareths playing hit n run with my rdb. My bug spray finally comes. The question is when will it arrive? And then...can we Hope to get our thul pin & pinata updated or get all new? I've a storage fullfilled whith them... what?
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Post by ewing411 on May 11, 2017 3:01:22 GMT -5
sorry I am not completely buying this just based off $$$. Why would anyone spend money(gold) on Orks when you can get a Tulu for just silver???. Take this and add another 200m and its a no brainer. That's where many maxedilots disagree with you. Most are relishing the Ork buff more than the Tulu. The ampunt of dmg orkans now give out will be quite devastating However this turns out we'll be able to get a good idea where things stand by the fits in the Champions League. If every single medium hardpoint goes ork then we know the Devs messed up.
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Post by ewing411 on May 11, 2017 3:30:29 GMT -5
<snip> Why is that revelant to this topic? As a weapon that costs gold the Orkan should be more powerful than a Taran or at least match it's distance. A single level 12 Zues does 148,910 damage/minute compared to its WSP counterpart, the Trident, that does 82,200 damage/minute at level 12. Making it 1.81 times as powerful while matching its distance. When comparing damage/second the Orkan in its current form is 1.92 times as powerful as the Taran but gives up 50m, in its new form it'll be 2.22 times as powerful which I feel will make up for the lack in distance. In conclusion, this buff is long overdue. It's about time the Orkan was with it's weight in gold. A question that needs to be asked is where the pay-to-win point is at? A good chunk of the headaches caused by matchmaking all the way back to Seal Clubbing could be attributed to the difference in weapons levels being so high with each increase. If gold weapons/bots at some point become win-buttons the gameplay is going to become very limited and boring. Also on most maps the advantage of plasma in range can be removed by terrain and good piloting. I won't be having an opinion on this until I experience these changes for myself.
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Post by Why? on May 11, 2017 4:18:31 GMT -5
Where is the official news source tho?
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Post by Pulse Hadron on May 11, 2017 4:28:47 GMT -5
Where is the official news source tho? look at Pix's Facebook page
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Post by The VVatcher on May 11, 2017 5:19:32 GMT -5
I think they are anticipating how orkans will do against the Dash bots. At their current state plasma Prototype 2 will destroy orkan bots. I think this is a good move. IMO orkans are currently on the decline anyway. They are only really good on the Griffin and thunder orkan Lancelot. The former only really good as an Ancilot counter. Galahad makes a mockery out of orkans.
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Post by maxboxer on May 11, 2017 6:54:04 GMT -5
And then...can we Hope to get our thul pin & pinata updated or get all new? I've a storage fullfilled whith them... what? We can aspect to have our orl/thulu/pins &pinata upgraded by pixonic as it was For molot &punisher or we have to buy ex novo?
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Post by hyderier on May 11, 2017 6:57:34 GMT -5
i love tulumbus an pins on my griff an even i think the buff is a very bad idea. i mean why get an orkan in the first place now. makes me think i wasted gold buying mine. Orkans have superior DPS&DPM, that's why. Even more so after this update! (If it happens as OP claims.)
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Post by Alanbit on May 11, 2017 7:13:19 GMT -5
We can aspect to have our orl/thulu/pins &pinata upgraded by pixonic as it was For molot &punisher or we have to buy ex novo? All changes apply to all weapons. So yours in your inventory are included. It would be quite confusing having different versions of the same weapon running in the same game.
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Post by Sebenza 21 on May 11, 2017 7:17:21 GMT -5
The video on pixo's face book page shows a trident fury getting smashed by pins, pinatas and Tulumbuses. How come tridents don't get load as you shoot buff?
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Post by SGT D00M! on May 11, 2017 7:20:55 GMT -5
The video on pixo's face book page shows a trident fury getting smashed by pins, pinatas and Tulumbuses. How come tridents don't get load as you shoot buff? It already has a 100m range and extended splash radius advantage. It will still be splash top-gun.
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Post by Sebenza 21 on May 11, 2017 7:43:28 GMT -5
Still, it'd be nice, I can't tell you how many times I've shot all my missiles off and the target jumps in with just a smidge of life and kills me while I'm waiting to reload.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 11, 2017 7:52:02 GMT -5
The video on pixo's face book page shows a trident fury getting smashed by pins, pinatas and Tulumbuses. How come tridents don't get load as you shoot buff? Your awesome name can't make me like this... just say "no" to never-ending single Tridents!
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Post by maxboxer on May 11, 2017 7:55:19 GMT -5
Still, it'd be nice, I can't tell you how many times I've shot all my missiles off and the target jumps in with just a smidge of life and kills me while I'm waiting to reload. This is why My thulbas (maybe six?)lies under the dust in My Storage...
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Post by Sebenza 21 on May 11, 2017 8:00:55 GMT -5
On the fury I used to fire the tridents off 1 at a time anyway, not so much with the butch though.
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Post by Firebeard on May 11, 2017 9:52:32 GMT -5
The only thing that stops me from using the Orkans' is the limited range. I will loudout a second Rogatka with them for tight Maps that require CQB. But the Pins' are a mainstay for me.
ewing411 there is no Pay-to-Win. That's what is great about War Robots .. that and giant robots.
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Post by SATmaster728 on May 11, 2017 10:16:48 GMT -5
The video on pixo's face book page shows a trident fury getting smashed by pins, pinatas and Tulumbuses. How come tridents don't get load as you shoot buff? no, just no. i do not want my Galahad getting smashed by single firing tridents.
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Post by wannabetoughguy on May 11, 2017 11:36:00 GMT -5
RDB will make a comeback. I have six lancelots, but will only run 4. With that name I'm hard pressed to believe you have six. I won two from the event, bought 4 over time and made a thread about it a few months back. I tried running 5 Lancelots, but that didn't work for solo play. I often meched out trying to win games as my teammates didn't help and watched me do all the capping. My spydra griffin is maxed out and is utilized in Springfield and the snowy map (my last resort everywhere else).
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Post by jazzykat on May 11, 2017 12:02:01 GMT -5
sorry I am not completely buying this just based off $$$. Why would anyone spend money(gold) on Orks when you can get a Tulu for just silver???. Take this and add another 200m and its a no brainer. That's where many maxedilots disagree with you. Most are relishing the Ork buff more than the Tulu. The ampunt of dmg orkans now give out will be quite devastating I am salivating. I have 4 x Lvl10. I'm considering pushing them up to 11 or perhaps 12 as my next 100m Ag investment. My other option is to buy more of them and level them to 8. Remember, a 15% damage increase for the Gekko made it almost a serious weapon that some people use. The Orkan as a ubiquitous weapon is going to be a monster, but I hope not Aphid good otherwise there will be nerfs.
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Post by Why? on May 11, 2017 12:57:28 GMT -5
So basically, MAKE ROCKETS GREAT AGAIN?
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Post by bootycallhalifax on May 11, 2017 13:07:19 GMT -5
I mean what did everyone expect lol. Top tiers are overrun with Brit bots with some Griffs and the odd carnage or something. Pretty much everyone just running the same 3 bots with shields. This buff is good, it will reduce people using the britbots and make more variety of other bots. On top of that with all the anciles on lancelots they had to buff rockets because right now rockets can hardly touch ancilots unless you have some teammates as well. More and more people using plasma, so it is indicating that rockets were inferior in the meta.
I don't know for sure but I suspect many here complaining are just upset because they are running 2 lancelots 2 galahads and a gareth. At first I was against this buff but then I began to see what people meant when they said that there are only 3-5 effective bots in TT
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Post by SATmaster728 on May 11, 2017 13:08:31 GMT -5
So basically, MAKE ROCKETS GREAT AGAIN? when were they not great? we have the best industry, the best navy, the best oops, this is not about american rockets?
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Post by [AuNv][AurS]GrainReaper on May 11, 2017 13:10:14 GMT -5
My big issue with my RDB Griff was the reload time, I'm interested to see how things work out, my perspective is this will balance play in silver and low gold leagues, I'm not at 5 slots just yet, so gold on orkans or that 5th slot was always a big issue, as a result I'm often coming up against orkans and other gold gear that is still out of reach for me, I know it's my choice to prioritize gold expenditure the way I have, but I think I will be better off with my current setups now.
I feel it's going to improve game strategy, force more fire from cover and team play coordination....
Or it could result in WWI trench warefare stalemate play, both sides lobbing long range artillery to avoid the miss leader zone, with an occasional suicide beacon grab attempt.
I am planning to plunk down some real cheddar on the game and get some gold, I was just talking about this to another clan member, I play all the time and allotting a few bucks a month to a game I really enjoy is worth it to me at this point, and I can get that 5th slot, and those longed-after orkans, and a shield bot or two...... This might sway my thoughts on the buff, but for now I'm in favor.
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