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Post by dinnerplain on Apr 12, 2024 4:01:03 GMT -5
Sales must have been hurting with the constant negativity coming from the "top" creator and others (you only had to read the comments from regular players to see the bad sentiments) for Pixonic to come up with this scheme and I think it is a smart move on their part. Sadly, I feel that it is a slippery slope for creators. The "glass half empty" style creators will need to change tact and move to a half full style delivery if they want to get that reach around from Pixonic. Videos like the ones showing the lousy drop rates from event chests and ultimate schmuck style games will become "Oh I really needed those 500 components to get close to building X" instead of "500 components of a useless bot that has been nerfed anyway".
The events drop rates changed in percentages ... and I didn't save the data from the last event to check it but there's a post from me somewhere in General Discusison here on it.
Now the argument needs to be "I've got all these partially completed weapons, so more parts are better than new complete weapons". Legendary rate dropped, epic dropped, rare increased. Rare, my 「bum-bum」.
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Post by tabbylion on Apr 12, 2024 4:07:23 GMT -5
Is that a fact? Sources? If true, that's a big piece of the puzzle that makes the big picture clearer now. No wonder so many wanted to burry the petition. It was bad for business. As juicy as it sounds, I think the scheme came out slightly before the "wolves" got a taste of Banni's prime cuts (as mentioned above). Either way, time will tell how this incentive might lead to some thinking twice before providing negative feedback on videoes.
Yes, the earliest video I know of where a content creator had posted their web store code on YouTube was round about the 20th January. The petition group was formed in early Feb and they only found out about the Ban in early March.
So everyone was already getting a bite of Pixonic's cake before and after the event. All except for the one not invited to the party.
In the final scene of The Lord of the Rings Return of the King, Aragorn's heroic charged inspires everyone else to charge with him. But in this story the fellowship disbands because they were only there to deliver a petition and not fight a war. Aragorn can't defeat Mordor by himself and Pix-Sauron wins. There are no wolves in this story unless you count Wolfblood.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Apr 12, 2024 5:04:42 GMT -5
As juicy as it sounds, I think the scheme came out slightly before the "wolves" got a taste of Banni's prime cuts (as mentioned above). Either way, time will tell how this incentive might lead to some thinking twice before providing negative feedback on videoes.
In the final scene of The Lord of the Rings Return of the King, Aragorn's heroic charged inspires everyone else to charge with him. But in this story the fellowship disbands because they were only there to deliver a petition and not fight a war. Aragorn can't defeat Mordor by himself and Pix-Sauron wins. There are no wolves in this story unless you count Wolfblood.
LoL. The fellowship threw the "ring" back at Aragorn and said stuff that, you're on your own bro. Still a better love story than the Twilight saga though.
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Post by munkeeee on Apr 12, 2024 12:06:34 GMT -5
this is one big mess, ALL of it. And now they sell stuff for pix apparently, if I am reading these comments right. smh
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Post by 0megaman on Apr 12, 2024 13:56:42 GMT -5
this is one big mess, ALL of it. And now they sell stuff for pix apparently, if I am reading these comments right. smh
Its been a lose-lose for the community. With the loss of the petition, the apparent co opting of the content creators, I expect Pigsonic to be even more emboldened and the grift machine turbo-charged.
I dont expect much of anything from the big creators now other than glorified infomercials. I'll be happy to be wrong though...
Luckily some of the smaller creators who arent in Pigsonics pocket are doing some good videos showing all the BS.
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Post by 0megaman on May 4, 2024 13:30:52 GMT -5
Just thought I'd give this thread a little bump, since all the other content createors jumped back on the petition bandwagon..... oh, wait... nevermind
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Post by Method Games[YT] on May 4, 2024 17:50:38 GMT -5
I still watch Banni's videoes, running non maxed gear must be hurting the pride/ego a little I reckon.
Might be time for him to make a grovelling apology to the overlords although it's probably a lot easier to just start subtle hacking instead.....
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Post by easystrider on May 4, 2024 18:41:16 GMT -5
I still watch Banni's videoes, running non maxed gear must be hurting the pride/ego a little I reckon. Might be time for him to make a grovelling apology to the overlords although it's probably a lot easier to just start subtle hacking instead..... Meh, if his pride got hurt he didn't show it. If anything, he seems more cheerful these days. Maybe he felt like groveling to Pixonic when he was getting free stuff from them. I really hope he transitions to other content besides War Robots. I wish he'd keep making the World of Tanks videos again, was enjoying those a lot.
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Post by tabbylion on May 4, 2024 21:12:09 GMT -5
^^ LoL at "Banni" ^^ At this point, I think the horse should stay dead and buried, I noticed the "creators" are trying to do the same but I can't help feel there is some bad blood hanging in the air now. Someone decided to unbury this dead horse so let's add something that's kind of unrelated..... Did anyone see this April fool's meme on Reddit a month ago:
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Post by Method Games[YT] on May 4, 2024 22:26:32 GMT -5
^^ LoL at "Banni" ^^ At this point, I think the horse should stay dead and buried, I noticed the "creators" are trying to do the same but I can't help feel there is some bad blood hanging in the air now. Someone decided to unbury this dead horse so let's add something that's kind of unrelated..... Did anyone see this April fool's meme on Reddit a month ago: Haha, have to pay that one and for the record, I wasn't the one to unbury the thread but I did think twice about posting and thought, hec why not and the "unburyer" did have a point.
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Post by easystrider on May 5, 2024 8:46:11 GMT -5
^^ LoL at "Banni" ^^ At this point, I think the horse should stay dead and buried, I noticed the "creators" are trying to do the same but I can't help feel there is some bad blood hanging in the air now. Someone decided to unbury this dead horse so let's add something that's kind of unrelated..... Did anyone see this April fool's meme on Reddit a month ago: I think it's related. That looks like predator's work.
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Post by easystrider on May 5, 2024 9:40:21 GMT -5
Well, since the corpse is out of the ground and roaming... I feel like Pixonic has been pretty generous lately, to the point where this doesn't feel like the same game I felt I was forced to quit playing ~2 years ago. Maybe it's just the ten year anniversary thing but I find it reasonable to get gear and resources in the game lately. Sure, not meta gear but enough where I can enjoy the game and be an impact in the matches. Maybe in some way it's related to the petition drama, maybe Pixonic acknowledged there's legitimate player dissatisfaction behind efforts such as the petition. I feel like if things stay like this it will be ok and this incident will mostly be left behind us. However, if this is just another installment in Pixonic's cycle where they are generous only to bring the hammer down later then this wave of player negativity will return. And obviously many will look to content creators to voice or at least note their frustration. And that time there will be no manni to blame. So lets hope things stay like this. Off to earn me some of those War Robots rewards while picking is still good.
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Post by 0megaman on May 5, 2024 15:04:57 GMT -5
Dead and buried is what Pigsonic and those particular CC's want. A little voodoo bump, and magic, its a zombie.
BrAiNs! BRAinS!! BRAINS!!!
The zombies may have problem though, as brains are apparently in short supply in Pigsonic world.
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Post by munkeeee on May 5, 2024 16:16:48 GMT -5
Dead and buried is what Pigsonic and those particular CC's want. A little voodoo bump, and magic, its a zombie. BrAiNs! BRAinS!! BRAINS!!!The zombies may have problem though, as brains are apparently in short supply in Pigsonic world. Pricksonic business model.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on May 5, 2024 16:49:23 GMT -5
Well, since the corpse is out of the ground and roaming... I feel like Pixonic has been pretty generous lately, Maybe it's just the ten year anniversary thing but I find it reasonable to get gear and resources in the game lately. Sure, not meta gear but enough where I can enjoy the game and be an impact in the matches. Maybe in some way it's related to the petition drama, maybe Pixonic acknowledged there's legitimate player dissatisfaction behind efforts such as the petition. Might be something in that. My game time was dropping off significantly, but now I am playing more again since the last update. Pathfinder seems manageable (expect a buff soon or another bot to take its place) and I can imagine the Dagon, Curie and Shenlou will be standing in the nerf buffet line waiting to receive their meals.
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Post by tabbylion on May 8, 2024 4:13:52 GMT -5
Dead and buried is what Pigsonic and those particular CC's want. A little voodoo bump, and magic, its a zombie. BrAiNs! BRAinS!! BRAINS!!!The zombies may have problem though, as brains are apparently in short supply in Pigsonic world.
I 100% blame this on you Mr Re-animator/Necromancer!!!
As he came to a conclusion
The others were in collusion It was his damn petition He did not need their permission He didn't want to listen He was on his own mission The petition was struck down It was always going to be doomed! Manni, are you okay? So, Manni, are you okay? Are you okay, Manni? Manni, are you okay? So, Manni, are you okay? Are you okay, Manni? Manni, are you okay? So, Manni, are you okay? Are you okay, Manni? Manni, are you okay? So, Manni, are you okay? Are you okay, Banni?
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Post by Method Games[YT] on May 8, 2024 7:59:26 GMT -5
I read that with a handful of crotch and one glove on the other hand
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Post by Poopface on May 13, 2024 8:16:31 GMT -5
In the final scene of The Lord of the Rings Return of the King, Aragorn's heroic charged inspires everyone else to charge with him. But in this story the fellowship disbands because they were only there to deliver a petition and not fight a war. Aragorn can't defeat Mordor by himself and Pix-Sauron wins. There are no wolves in this story unless you count Wolfblood.
LoL. The fellowship threw the "ring" back at Aragorn and said stuff that, you're on your own bro. Still a better love story than the Twilight saga though. Depends on whether you’re a fan of bestiality or necrophilia.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on May 27, 2024 4:30:24 GMT -5
I still watch Banni's videoes, running non maxed gear must be hurting the pride/ego a little I reckon. Might be time for him to make a grovelling apology to the overlords although it's probably a lot easier to just start subtle hacking instead..... Meh, if his pride got hurt he didn't show it. If anything, he seems more cheerful these days. Maybe he felt like groveling to Pixonic when he was getting free stuff from them. I really hope he transitions to other content besides War Robots. I wish he'd keep making the World of Tanks videos again, was enjoying those a lot. Out of the ashes, the Phoenix is reborn...... Anyone noticing all the latest vids from old mate only feature test server stuff or unknown pilot ID's? Good on him for sticking to his guns but I feel like he is stuck on the train platform like Neo was in the Matrix Revolutions movie in an alternate reality.
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Post by easystrider on May 27, 2024 9:04:43 GMT -5
Meh, if his pride got hurt he didn't show it. If anything, he seems more cheerful these days. Maybe he felt like groveling to Pixonic when he was getting free stuff from them. I really hope he transitions to other content besides War Robots. I wish he'd keep making the World of Tanks videos again, was enjoying those a lot. Out of the ashes, the Phoenix is reborn...... Anyone noticing all the latest vids from old mate only feature test server stuff or unknown pilot ID's? Good on him for sticking to his guns but I feel like he is stuck on the train platform like Neo was in the Matrix Revolutions movie in an alternate reality. Yea, without his press account getting latest goodies there's a limit to what he can show. I think also he has somewhat toned down his criticism. One of his recent videos is bit alarming though, I really hope that there will be no ultimate shocktrain meta again. If that happens I'm out, not going through that garbage again. Add to it that new titan with rockets, seems my only point in the the game will be to be one-tapped by current meta. Edit: On a side note, I think it's pretty funny that this thread still lives. Maybe we should hide it somewhere? I think it's going to reflect poorly on us and the forum if it keeps popping up in GD. Like we have nothing else to discuss.
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Post by 0megaman on May 27, 2024 13:39:01 GMT -5
Edit: On a side note, I think it's pretty funny that this thread still lives. Maybe we should hide it somewhere? I think it's going to reflect poorly on us and the forum if it keeps popping up in GD. Like we have nothing else to discuss.
Heh, yeah, theres all kinds of other 「slow」 stuff wrong with the game now to talk about
While the petition is as dead as it can be, if anything, it showed the true colors of the top few CC's. Far as I am concerned, their names are mud now, just a bunch of shills. While they proclaim how much they "care" about the player base, their actions/inactions in the entire matter, and their interactions with each other, seem to be entirely corrupt. Manni aside, the rest had a simple way to change that obvious perception and vindicate themselves afterwards, not a single one took the opportunity, not one. Click-bait was the only thing that seemed to matter to them.
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Post by TerrorStorm on May 27, 2024 22:00:36 GMT -5
If you are being paid by the party your supposed to be "reviewing" or "critiquing" if certainly removes a level of legitimacy.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jul 26, 2024 7:23:48 GMT -5
Looks like Manni has truly made the move away from the game. Most of his content is centered around the cartoonish Brawlstarz game now.
I truly wish him good luck.
*Yeah I dug up this post again, seemed the best place for it.
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Post by 079 on Jul 27, 2024 16:18:28 GMT -5
Looks like Manni has truly made the move away from the game. Most of his content is centered around the cartoonish Brawlstarz game now. I truly wish him good luck. *Yeah I dug up this post again, seemed the best place for it. We shall see where it goes, I bet he is trying to transition to this game like he tried to for Armored Core 6, but without openly announcing him committing to it. I too wish him luck, at this point both him and the game are better without each other I think.
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Post by tabbylion on Jul 28, 2024 9:23:48 GMT -5
So did AD Gaming unfortunately:
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Post by easystrider on Jul 28, 2024 14:01:04 GMT -5
So did AD Gaming unfortunately: ".. the role of a mentor implies that no anti-advertising will be made about in-game mechanics that generate profit..." - if you were not sure what Manni's ban or this one are about, there you have it. Being critical of a feature can mean anti-advertising. Asking to sign a petition to change disliked mechanics can mean anti-advertising. Clear message from Pixonic, either you'll dance to our tune or you'll lose the mentor status. Edit: Manni has top rated comment to that video.
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Post by killmenow on Jul 28, 2024 16:42:50 GMT -5
So did AD Gaming unfortunately: ".. the role of a mentor implies that no anti-advertising will be made about in-game mechanics that generate profit..." - if you were not sure what Manni's ban or this one are about, there you have it. Being critical of a feature can mean anti-advertising. Asking to sign a petition to change disliked mechanics can mean anti-advertising. Clear message from Pixonic, either you'll dance to our tune or you'll lose the mentor status. Edit: Manni has top rated comment to that video. it's not a ban it's a lure , ....i got banned! oh noes - everyone rushes to said channel and channel gets more attention so does pixonic .......clear lure
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jul 28, 2024 17:30:52 GMT -5
So did AD Gaming unfortunately: ".. the role of a mentor implies that no anti-advertising will be made about in-game mechanics that generate profit..." Translation: Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Virtually making creators sub contractors of the company.
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Post by easystrider on Jul 28, 2024 18:00:01 GMT -5
".. the role of a mentor implies that no anti-advertising will be made about in-game mechanics that generate profit..." Translation: Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Virtually making creators sub contractors of the company. More like commission based salesmen. Pixonic took out giant stick in the form of the ban, and promised carrot in the form of possible share of revenues from the store. Except that carrot will not materialize since viewership is down and hardly anybody will bother to mention creators when they are buying in-game items. I think Pixonic just managed to nerf pretty much all the content creators.
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Post by T34 on Jul 30, 2024 0:59:35 GMT -5
".. the role of a mentor implies that no anti-advertising will be made about in-game mechanics that generate profit..." Translation: Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Virtually making creators sub contractors of the company. Or, if you want to be in on the scam than be a scammer yourself and insert your honest opinions where the sun dont shine. It is clear that Pix had enough of criticism and wants TY-er to focus on game play and highly limit criticism. There are a few out there that do it. Ohhhhh wow, i won 5000 Ag from the bronze and got my 8th ocho pilot. That's so great.
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