Manni gets banned

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Manni is a 「female dog」.

I remember in Manni’s update video 2 weeks ago, he stated that less than 4000 people responded to the petition which in my opinion is too small of a percentage of the War Robots community to worry Pixonic! Therefore, I didn’t realise it was even possible to caused other content creators such problems.

Glad to hear your side of the story Mr Wolfy and hopefully this issue will fade away.

It`s a shame that this has gone from a collaborated attempt to try and get Pixonic to make improvements to the game for the players to a squabble between the YTers. I get that each has their own reasons and explanations of what happened and their own interests to protect and agendas to promote, etc. but, at the end of the day, there is still only really the one overtly dishonest, despicable, underhanded and deceitful party in this whole matter - and we all know who that is..!!

Wolfblood7

I'd say that's actually a decent number, considering only 27k people (as of now) watched that video to begin with. And that's pretty normal, any of those bigger youtubers for War Robots is lucky to get more than 15% of their total subs to watch any given video.

Then you have what actually constitutes a view: YT says that if anybody clicked on the video and watched for 30 seconds then it counts. So again, you probably have only a fraction of viewers lasting long enough to consider participating.

Predator has his own survey out, I hope he shares his stats but I'd expect a similar thing: a fraction of a fraction.

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Man he was the best. My favourite as well. Simple, funny and not always about the latest and greatest gear.

These days it's just running mk3 everything and pretending to be shocked that it demolishes everything else.

Hearing the same phrases over and over from the content creators is pretty boring, almost to the point where I need to put them on mute.

Thanks for giving us another perspective Wolf. The more angles the better.

Logical. Before getting on to other business it needs to be determined who is the alpha. None of you ever worked for a corporation, I presume?

More comming:



To me a big point there is have the other creators really asked for permission from Pixonic and did they really receive the response that Manni posted? Because that was not mentioned by other creators so far.  

If the claims by Manni are true then Pixonic played much more active role in this than previously known. And it looks to me like some creators decided to play along.  

Manni says two interesting things, which may or may not be true. First, that he was negotiating that ban with Pixo for close to a month and only shortly before the petition release possibility of a deal fell through. Second, that petition was delayed number of times already before that. If this is true, then it would mean that Pixonic was more in control of timing of those events than Manni.

Sure, Manni could have postponed again. But at that time he reasonably, imo, concluded that petition is not being delayed but buried. Also, that would also confirm what you wrote above, that Pixonic had very good knowledge of when petition is about to be released.  

Seems like Pix got these bigger content creators by the balls. This is a mutually beneficial relationship based on rules set by Pix.
( Pix isolates their activity to War Robots. Content creation is their main source of income and hence do as i say or risk your income)

Don’t envy them,  especially if YouTube is their main source of income. 

I didn't personally see Pixonic's response, but I know someone asked them if Manni's ban was to do with the petition. I'm pretty sure they said no. But I wasn't aware anyone asked permission to do the petition.

Predator replies:

I personally am overall on Predator’s side in this issue I think. Manni seems to have had good intentions and I appreciate his passion with everything, but he seems to not be aware that a communications breakdown is what caused the petition to fall through, not just Pixonic (at least as I see it). Manni talked about how he negotiated the ban with Pixonic and how his ban video was not meant to coincide with his petition video like everyone already knows this, when according to Predator this was not the case. Predator provided us with a timeline of events and some screenshots in his video, while Manni just wanted us to listen to him, so I am inclined to believe Predator. This sentiment is reflected in Predator’s new video too, with Predator pointing out how Manni seems to think we can read his mind or something.

But, I think the petition itself is starting to be lost in the sauce at this point. The two sides of the argument have been established at this point, and I doubt any large revelations remain to be unearthed. I found Predator’s new video to be emblematic of how repetitive and increasingly petty this debate is getting, with Predator having trouble containing his emotions and (to me) being a little too harsh on Manni. I hope Manni sticks true to his claim of not wanting to stir drama and does not make a response to Predator’s response to his response, because that will be when it becomes a back-and-forth drama.

I myself am probably going to start to tune this out now. Manni’s petition flopped and Predator’s felt too forced and sanitized, and that is really the end of it I think. Just another failed attempt to rally against Pixonic, like the spending ban in March 2023 and whatever else before it. We can go on and on about what does or does not cause those to work, but I think it is just a matter people being too slit between being extremely jaded and willing to role with the punches to agree on a single course of corrective action for the game. I just hope this does not scar the fan base too much.