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Post by Redfiend on Mar 10, 2022 23:53:22 GMT -5
As long as we're sharing hangars, here's my random Accomplishments tasks hangar for CPC, lol. Only 820+ more Pulse Cannon assists to go with my Killy
Definitely losing more matches than normal but some surprises in there. The beam Zephyr is doing better than I imagined given Zeph is more of a burst platform and my SB16 and TL4 are at 4.7 and 3.7 respectively.
Taking thermal 4 to 4.1 will push the OH effect to where you can proc overheat with 30% ammo. The 3 second hard reload goes live with 25% ammo, so waiting only a split second longer will guarantee the extra damage while Stasis is still laying into them. And I'm having deja vu.
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Post by S1E1 on Mar 11, 2022 1:27:42 GMT -5
As long as we're sharing hangars, here's my random Accomplishments tasks hangar for CPC, lol. Only 820+ more Pulse Cannon assists to go with my Killy :-[ :'(
Definitely losing more matches than normal but some surprises in there. The beam Zephyr is doing better than I imagined given Zeph is more of a burst platform and my SB16 and TL4 are at 4.7 and 3.7 respectively.
Taking thermal 4 to 4.1 will push the OH effect to where you can proc overheat with 30% ammo. The 3 second hard reload goes live with 25% ammo, so waiting only a split second longer will guarantee the extra damage while Stasis is still laying into them. And I'm having deja vu. Thanks for the tip, but I just need to achieve stasis for the task, not make a kill (although I am getting a decent amount of those too). I'm not going to spend A-Coins on a 4 energy weapon.
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 25, 2022 12:09:14 GMT -5
Ok, spent more than I should have this past weekend but got enough A-coins to max my Shadow and rank my Ares to R6. I know I don't have enough blueprints to max the Ares yet, but hope to save enough A-coins (or buy next month) to max it by this time next month. JR8 on the Shadow is a lot of fun. Needs a bit more exposure than JR6 for a sure hit, but heck, that's what the Stealth is for eh?
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 25, 2022 12:30:09 GMT -5
Oops, probably should have included my Ares in the pic!
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Post by S1E1 on Apr 26, 2022 12:57:52 GMT -5
Congrats on the maxed Shadow. I'm jealous. I have slowly been marching mine up from 3.7 but with those light mech upgrade costs it is slow going. Currently stuck at 5.7 while I save up more A-Coins. Totally impatient to get it done...
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 26, 2022 13:57:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I hate how the light mechs cost so much to level up. It's so weird. They are so much more fun to play! Or, maybe that's why they cost so much?
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on May 2, 2022 20:16:57 GMT -5
Seeing some of these good cheetah players makes me consider investing, just the low energy keeps stopping me.
3mths away and now back a little I have no clue on direction to go, hah.
Just sitting on 6m credits and 10k a coins..
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Post by Koalabear on May 3, 2022 8:04:39 GMT -5
Seeing some of these good cheetah players makes me consider investing, just the low energy keeps stopping me. 3mths away and now back a little I have no clue on direction to go, hah. Just sitting on 6m credits and 10k a coins.. Start a thread here, post your mechs and gear and lets see if we can collectively point you in the right direction.
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Post by lrob on May 3, 2022 11:29:18 GMT -5
Seeing some of these good cheetah players makes me consider investing, just the low energy keeps stopping me. 3mths away and now back a little I have no clue on direction to go, hah. Just sitting on 6m credits and 10k a coins.. Are you facing many players with Cheetah? In my case, most Cheetahs are AI; high level implants, hyper-aggressive and totally kamikaze. They put themselves on my face and start throwing mines... If they are able to ambush me, a not uncommon outcome is a double KO. Looking forward to your hangar post. 10,000 A-coins is a small fortune π€
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Post by reconnecting on May 3, 2022 13:03:08 GMT -5
Seeing some of these good cheetah players makes me consider investing, just the low energy keeps stopping me. 3mths away and now back a little I have no clue on direction to go, hah. Just sitting on 6m credits and 10k a coins.. Start a thread here, post your mechs and gear and lets see if we can collectively point you in the right direction. I agree with Koala, start a thread titled 10,000 Acoins Decision or something and a summary of your current hangar. We will give you some ideas.
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Post by dukeofadvil on May 6, 2022 13:38:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I hate how the light mechs cost so much to level up. It's so weird. They are so much more fun to play! Or, maybe that's why they cost so much? Cheetah is very situational....but I refuse to take it out of my hanger. PROBABLY THE FUNNIST MECH OUT THERE. Running Jav6's, but they are at like 6-2ish. These 2 games were just played about 20 minutes ago.
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Post by reconnecting on May 6, 2022 13:56:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I hate how the light mechs cost so much to level up. It's so weird. They are so much more fun to play! Or, maybe that's why they cost so much? Cheetah is very situational....but I refuse to take it out of my hanger. PROBABLY THE FUNNIST MECH OUT THERE. Running Jav6's, but they are at like 6-2ish. These 2 games were just played about 20 minutes ago. I agree Cheetah is fun to play, with the mine boost and ability damage pilot thing. Plus hes pretty quick. I may use him more early in the week.
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Post by Koalabear on May 7, 2022 15:04:24 GMT -5
I'm about to max out my Ares in a week or so. However long it takes me to save 550k credits. I have the necessary A-coins to buy the rest of the blueprints. It's almost like blueprints dry up for a mech once it gets close to maxing...I haven't gotten any in a while...anyway, that's a different issue.
I've been thinking of what mech I want to concentrate on next. I was originally thinking Lancer cause I've already started leveling it and I have literally TONS of blueprints. But, I've always wanted to try Cheetah...so...hmm...
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Post by Koalabear on May 13, 2022 14:27:57 GMT -5
So, finally did it! All my mechs in my hangar are now maxed! Next up, to focus on cloning the DL16 and hope that by the time I do, there is a Legendary Guided pilot! That maxed Ares is a beast! But, still have to play it smart cause even though the shield is 31k, it doesn't stand up to concentrated fire and it has no elevation as I previously thought.
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Post by S1E1 on May 14, 2022 14:49:03 GMT -5
Congratulations on the maxed hangar! You know what that means - mandatory Leonardo DiCaprio gif!!!
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Post by lrob on May 14, 2022 14:54:57 GMT -5
Congratulations!! That's a nice hangar there. Now people will say: there is a whale in my bracket π¨π³
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Post by Koalabear on May 16, 2022 9:20:48 GMT -5
Funny, I jumped into a Custom game yesterday with a few noobs and as soon as I'm in, they're like "the bot is a whale!". Haha, they thought I was a bot! Ended well though. We didn't play but I ended up giving them some tips.
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Post by Koalabear on Jun 24, 2022 15:02:54 GMT -5
So, despite my resolve to not spend much anymore, I decided to pick up both the AT10 and AT12 deals. If I'd known yesterday that the AT12 would come out today, I would not have picked up the AT10! Oh well...
Well, my Zep is currently at 6.3. I have just over 200 blueprints for it and over 900k credits, but I doubt that will take me far enough to max to get the 24EN. Still, I think I'll max it before I'm able to max the AT12, so I guess when I max it, I'll run AT10/AT12 and just leave it like that until I get more blueprints or more A-coins to level up the At12. I suppose I could throw some resources at the AT10 just to increase it's power and range, but I feel like it's a waste to throw resources at a weapon that I have no intention of using in the long term. I don't plan on running more than one CQ build.
I would love to get my hands on the gold Zep implant that increases it's EMP range, but I doubt that will ever happen. Too bad. Seems all the AI Zeps and some human ones too, are zapping me at 40m, which is crazy. Sigh...
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Post by OU812? on Jun 24, 2022 15:35:54 GMT -5
So, despite my resolve to not spend much anymore, I decided to pick up both the AT10 and AT12 deals. If I'd known yesterday that the AT12 would come out today, I would not have picked up the AT10! Oh well... Well, my Zep is currently at 6.3. I have just over 200 blueprints for it and over 900k credits, but I doubt that will take me far enough to max to get the 24EN. Still, I think I'll max it before I'm able to max the AT12, so I guess when I max it, I'll run AT10/AT12 and just leave it like that until I get more blueprints or more A-coins to level up the At12. I suppose I could throw some resources at the AT10 just to increase it's power and range, but I feel like it's a waste to throw resources at a weapon that I have no intention of using in the long term. I don't plan on running more than one CQ build. I would love to get my hands on the gold Zep implant that increases it's EMP range, but I doubt that will ever happen. Too bad. Seems all the AI Zeps and some human ones too, are zapping me at 40m, which is crazy. Sigh... Iβm with you in implant frustration. Iβd throw money at Plarium for the gold Jav implants, but Iβm not gonna gamble $$$ on Advanced Implant Crates in hopes of getting one. Even if Plarium offers AIC for reduced costs. Unfortunately that puts some of the Legendary Implants practically out of reach for most of us. Too bad Plarium didnβt recognize the frustration that places most fans of the game under. In my mind, Plarium should of made Implant acquisition easier than a gambling mechanic. Looking at the crazy leveling costs of Pilots and Implants, they could still reap financial rewards on Pilots, Pilot XP and implant upgrades.
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Post by Koalabear on Jun 25, 2022 14:04:15 GMT -5
Yeah, the inability to not get that Zep implant almost makes me want to get the Surge. That was always the Zep's weakness, than it had to wait for targets to come in 30m. Oh well, my Zep is close to max so I'm not going to invest in a brand new mech at this time. Gonna do the Zep as best I can and then go back to GR10 Stalker.
Just made another change....
Since my Ares in now on the shelf, I took Major and the CB12s and put it on my KS. I gotta say, I really really like this build. It's a lot like PC8 KS back in the day but way more powerful. So, it's not a bad thing I guess if I don't get the Zep implant. It just makes my builds a bit more fluid and I can move weapons and pilots around at will. Like for instance, once I get the AT12 and it's implants leveled decently, I can slap them on my Ares if I feel like running a tank, or back on the Zep for those small claustrophobic maps in TDM or 2v2.
One complaint I do have though, is that my JR8 Shadow is getting less and less use. Maybe I'm finally outgrowing it? I've tried it with DL8 and just didn't like it. If I could get my hands on SG8, I'll definitely try that. I've been thinking of RM8 on the Shadow, but if my memory serves, the RM8 can't really hit anything. But, with the Shadow, I'll likely be able to engage at the minimum range more, and I have the gold implant for RM splash radius...so hmm....something to think about.
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Post by hicycles on Jun 25, 2022 21:30:16 GMT -5
Yeah, the inability to not get that Zep implant almost makes me want to get the Surge. That was always the Zep's weakness, than it had to wait for targets to come in 30m. Oh well, my Zep is close to max so I'm not going to invest in a brand new mech at this time. Gonna do the Zep as best I can and then go back to GR10 Stalker. Just made another change.... Since my Ares in now on the shelf, I took Major and the CB12s and put it on my KS. I gotta say, I really really like this build. It's a lot like PC8 KS back in the day but way more powerful. So, it's not a bad thing I guess if I don't get the Zep implant. It just makes my builds a bit more fluid and I can move weapons and pilots around at will. Like for instance, once I get the AT12 and it's implants leveled decently, I can slap them on my Ares if I feel like running a tank, or back on the Zep for those small claustrophobic maps in TDM or 2v2. One complaint I do have though, is that my JR8 Shadow is getting less and less use. Maybe I'm finally outgrowing it? I've tried it with DL8 and just didn't like it. If I could get my hands on SG8, I'll definitely try that. I've been thinking of RM8 on the Shadow, but if my memory serves, the RM8 can't really hit anything. But, with the Shadow, I'll likely be able to engage at the minimum range more, and I have the gold implant for RM splash radius...so hmm....something to think about. The one shadow build Iβm having a blast with is at10/6. Itβs super fun on cpc. It has limited uses for deathmatch, but still fun.
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Post by Redfiend on Jun 26, 2022 2:23:41 GMT -5
Seeing some of these good cheetah players makes me consider investing, just the low energy keeps stopping me. 3mths away and now back a little I have no clue on direction to go, hah. Just sitting on 6m credits and 10k a coins.. Do you remember the Beta MM? Where sometimes AI were just stupid strong compared to you, especially during the period of grinding mechs/weapons beyond R4 for the first time? That's the kinda balls to the wall action light mechs enable. Pilots make them viable, but only super whales and AI have access to the good stuff at sufficient levels. A purple pilot with the purple damage weapon mod, makes light mech damage the equivalent DPS of pre-pilot dual copy removal 24EN mechs. Modern light weapon sets, are the 16 EN weapons we used for over a year at that point, along with new additions like Arc 10+6, Gauss 10+6, pilots giving Pulse cannons LONG ARM RANGE, and more aggravating Javelins, with options that aren't worthless to level up when playing with low rank, low EN mechs. I want to get to a point where I can try goofy crap, like Carb 10+ Plasma 6, because plasmas are basically Carbine 6 now. Their new fire rate makes their unload time stupid fast. Major+ Plasma Reload+Carbine Reload, then either general ability mods (cooldown at any higher rank is always good) or more damage mods. Gauss rifles are cool, but everyone is kitted out with the epic sniper with epic longarm reload/damage mods, and they are still the biggest long term investment, especially with the 12 being a thing. It's aggravating that we can only get these things when they want to put it "on sale". As in, if they don't want us to have it. Well *expletive deleted*
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Post by Koalabear on Jun 28, 2022 8:30:36 GMT -5
Do the Plasma cannon projectiles now travel faster too? I remember my aggravation in the early days, trying to hit a fast moving fast mech with the Plasma cannon and missing most if not all my shots because it couldn't hit a running mech.
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 6, 2022 2:11:34 GMT -5
Do the Plasma cannon projectiles now travel faster too? I remember my aggravation in the early days, trying to hit a fast moving fast mech with the Plasma cannon and missing most if not all my shots because it couldn't hit a running mech. Their Rank up bonus was changed to "Score+", which does nothing, to "Projectile speed+" I messed up the previous comment. They still take the same time to unload. Projectile speed is only a hair slower than RPGs at R5.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 6, 2022 7:15:25 GMT -5
Thanks. I did try out the Plasma Cannon in a custom game just to check it out. Still can't hit a target while strafing...useless.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 15, 2022 8:06:43 GMT -5
Ok, so I think I'm reaching a turning point. I LOVE my Shadow, but it's just not cutting it anymore. It used to be a great clutch mech to cap a few beacons mid to late match. The JR8s are powerful, but just not powerful enough. Good human pilots will hunt me down, and stealth is useless in a world where people can manually aim at you or throw a hail of DL16 discs at the area around you. The HP is so low that a simple touch of AT12 by a Stalker with it's ability on will kill my Shadow.
I splurged and got my hands on the GB16 and am upgrading that as fast as I can without going overboard. I will run that on my Panther. I'm thinking of working on my Paragon next since it's the only other 32EN mech I have that is close to maxing. I do have the Arachnos, but it's nowhere near maxing and I never picked up the Redox and at this point, I most likely will never get the Redox. I'm thinking that when I'm ready to work on the Paragon, I'll take Johanna off the Shadow and put her on the Paragon. I do have Crow decently leveled with DL implants decently leveled so this will be a tough decision as I will lose a lot of implants or A-coins in this transition process.
Thoughts?
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Post by OU812? on Aug 15, 2022 12:07:18 GMT -5
Ok, so I think I'm reaching a turning point. I LOVE my Shadow, but it's just not cutting it anymore. It used to be a great clutch mech to cap a few beacons mid to late match. The JR8s are powerful, but just not powerful enough. Good human pilots will hunt me down, and stealth is useless in a world where people can manually aim at you or throw a hail of DL16 discs at the area around you. The HP is so low that a simple touch of AT12 by a Stalker with it's ability on will kill my Shadow. I splurged and got my hands on the GB16 and am upgrading that as fast as I can without going overboard. I will run that on my Panther. I'm thinking of working on my Paragon next since it's the only other 32EN mech I have that is close to maxing. I do have the Arachnos, but it's nowhere near maxing and I never picked up the Redox and at this point, I most likely will never get the Redox. I'm thinking that when I'm ready to work on the Paragon, I'll take Johanna off the Shadow and put her on the Paragon. I do have Crow decently leveled with DL implants decently leveled so this will be a tough decision as I will lose a lot of implants or A-coins in this transition process. Thoughts? First: π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π± Taking out the Shadow!?!? Say it ainβt so! Did you have the legendary or epic damage implant for those Javs? I understand the move. Plarium has buffed the AI mechs. I couldnβt even one shot kill a Cheetah this morning with both Jav8 missiles. π³ Otherwise, they sound like sound moves considering the level you compete at. If Iβm understanding correctly, you plan on running DLs on you Paragon? If so, let us know how that is working out. I enjoy the paragon and like seeing players use it.
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Post by S1E1 on Aug 15, 2022 12:14:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I too am finding my Shadow to be pretty limited. It's fun in CPC, but DL splash damage is a real problem. Mainly I just have it to take out RM builds in tourney before it quickly dies off. I have Arc10+6 on mine though which is good for damage.
Arachnos is pure trash, don't bother with it. Redox is better but not that good either so I think the Paragon plan is generally ok. I know you've been interested in maxing it and are pretty close. If I had the resources I would too. It's not the best mech but it is fun to play with.
Mainly I think the big thing is that either to they are going to start dropping new 32EN mechs soon or there is going to be some big power paradigm shift, like the introduction of pilots. They have been flooding the game with 16EN weapons but there are very few mechs to put them on. And the new EM Rifle is crazy OP. I am watching vids where a single shot from a single rifle is just killing entire mechs. Granted it is with maxed pilots/implants but still that's just the 10EN version and it comes in 16 and I think maybe 12 too. If they are introducing that kind of firepower, something heavier has to be coming. So I wouldn't invest too much in other 32EN mechs right now. Might as well go with the one you have been wanting to upgrade (Paragon), even if it is just for fun.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 15, 2022 12:37:30 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling the pinch with Shadow. It's not so bad when it's all AI opponents, but humans can't be tricked with the Shadow tricks. With humans, it's kill or be killed as soon as possible. And the DL has the advantage of hitting mechs in light cover just by breaking lock and aiming at the spot beside them. Heck, I got wasted by max DL16s while on an incline with the "hill" between my opponent and me, and he killed me by shooting his discs over my head. Seriously, then need to remove the lock feature of this gun! It's great when you're out in the open and for getting those side shots, but other than that, it's a liability when trying to hit mechs in cover as the target lock makes you hit the cover and not the bot.
Another thing going for the Paragon is that I can pop one arm out of cover at a time and then use my Rush ability to get away - theoretically of course.
If I ever get the SG8, I'm definitely gonna try that on the Shadow while leveling up the Tengu.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 22, 2022 9:28:35 GMT -5
Ok, quick update...
Been running my Paragon a bit with DL16/12 and it's enough to convince me that this is not a mech that I'm going to max. The biggest weakness is that the Paragon has got no gimmick. In a pinch, it can't EMP it's opponent, it can't go into stealth, can't ambush, can't crash it's opponent's weapons, can't form a shield. Heck, it can't even jump.
So, as much as I don't like the Redox, looks like I'm going to be getting that some time in the future. Gonna work on the GB16 first, bring it to R6 to clone it, and then start working towards the Redox. Hopefully by now, I have enough blueprints to take it max or close to. And after that, gonna work towards Stephania, who hopefully will be available in the Inventory by then.
Dang, just when I thought I was done spending money for A-coins!
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