MA - My Hangar Thoughts

Ok, so I have a bit of a dilemma going through my head. Which legendary should I invest my time and resources into?


In my hangar, Panther and Guardian are permanent. They both can counter all the OP legendary stuff so they're not going anywhere. Surge is a beast and it's also not going anywhere.


I have Gatecrasher and Bastion both at R4 now. I have Redox at R3 but I also have like 95 blueprints for Redox. I admit, I picked up the Bastion in a fit of rage and I don't really have a good 12EN weapon doubled to go on it. I have CB12 at R6, and I have Major at R5 and Neymar at R4 but I have no purple or gold damage implant for the CB, so I can't bring it up to the insane damage that the AI has despite the CB getting majorly buffed. The best way to use Bastion is to make sure you can kill your target in the few seconds of EMP you get when they take down your shield.

I know I want to prioritize Gatecrasher because I'm going to fit it with my DL16. It's a fast mech for 32EN and it's ability can be useful for chasing campers out of deep cover and into shallow cover where I can wall-hit them. My dilemma now is do I do Bastion first or Redox? I'd thought Bastion originally because of all the AI Bastions kicking my butt these days but I just don't have decent weapons for it right now. I didn't like Redox at first due to it's speed, but it got a major HP buff and my clan mates were saying that it's a pretty decent mech now and it's ability can do serious damage. I took a quick look at it's stats again and it does 16 km/h which is the same as the Guardian and I've been running the Guardian for a very long time.  In fact, the Guardian's slowness is what made me put RG16 on it in the first place as that very slowness makes it a more stable RG platform than Panther for me.

So...I think I'm actually talking myself into working on the Redox... because while EM16 on Panther is OP, I actually miss sometimes because...well just because. And missing with EMs is pretty hard I know thanks to the target assist. I really really want to run GB16 again cause they seemed to have gotten buffed too and I do have the legendary beam pilot (forget her name).

So...what do you all think?

Oh, edit...

I don't intend to permanently shelve my KS and Shadow either. I will organically collect and upgrade the JR12 (yes Helix just came out and I may end up getting that one day). KS and Shadow are basically my fun mechs for CPC. And, the funny thing is, when I was just about to abandon SG8 Shadow completely, I've found that it actually does better against humans than AI. With AI, if you successfully sneak up behind them, they will spin around and erase you immediately. With humans, whether it's due to lag or reflexes, takes them a while to react, and I can usually kill or almost kill them. I say almost cause man, people have super high HP these days and SG8 just doesn't seem to hit as hard. (did they even get bufffed?)

Well, it's been a while since I updated this thread....

This is now my hangar after maxing Eclipse:




So, as I mentioned in my other thread, I went with MR12 because I had the gold damage implant and I wanted to use Neymar Jr for his missile damage buff and sprint cool down reduction versus Major for assault weapons and slightly higher HP bump. Even with Neymar, my Eclipse has just over 200k HP. With MR12, it's like running my little itty bitty SG8 Shadow again - which was a hoot, especially against humans (against AI not as much). I've already used my Eclipse to hunt a camping human in TTDM yesterday. It was hilarious to sneak up behind him and nail his HR12 Orion. I even did it twice more as the game went to 3 rounds (I think he's in my friend list so I have to remember to remove him as I don't like playing with campers).

As for other weapon choices, I noticed that I have a gold damage implant for NL12 lying around and NL12 and MR12 have similar if not the same magazine damage with NL12 having lower per shot damage. I think if they ever release a legendary Barrage pilot and I get my grubby little hands on it, then I might explore this build. But, when I was mucking around with NL12, I was constantly frustrated by the inconsistent firing arc. There's just no way to really predict how high the rockets will fire. Plus, with how slow they fly, it's impractical to use them for anything but either harassing fire (which doesn't work against AI) or point blank in their face fire. The only real pro the NL12 has over MR12 is the faster reload - which is partially taken away by the slightly longer firing time and the increased change of not killing a healthy target.

The only other builds I would seriously consider for my Eclipse are CB12 and EMR12. I will likely explore CB12 first since I have Major decently leveled. I just don't have any gold CB implants unfortunately. Some have suggested CB12 on Surge and I've seen that in action, but I just couldn't love it due to the slightly longer kill time. Plus, I feel due to the Eclipse's longer cloak time and other cloak benefits, it is better served with the CB's longer range so that it can harass and deal decent damage before closing for the kill. It can even pick off low HP mechs.

As for EMR12, I'm at R5.6, so just one more level to clone it. I don't have any gold implants for EMR either but I do have the purple one and really, the EMRs do not need a gold damage implant cause two EMR12s (heck two EMR10s too) can single shot kill most mechs. I'll wait to see if I can get Baron though as my ArcAngel is host to RG16 on my Guardian and while Maverick is maxed, I'm not going to invest implant parts on him for now since I'm in no rush to try this build. I just can't get the hang of the EMR delayed firing cause it's not great for firing while moving.

Anyway, that's my update and my hangar thoughts for now. I don't intend on getting any new gear that I don't already have. I'm done spending money on this game and will try to coast for as long as possible.

Thanks. Hmmm, I do have maxed Maverick. Would that put me over and into the one shot kill category? I do have some implant parts left.

How so? legendary is 40% all weapon damage, max maverick would be 48%(25% all, 23% sniper)
Using a non-sniper legendary at max would be more for the HP and extra implant slot, but with removal costs, really wouldn't be worth the contradictory kit for 15%hp.

Ok so I've been playing more and more with NLs and figured I'd give an update to anyone who is still curious about this weapon.



So, I don't hate the weapon anymore. But, it's no longer filling the niche I wanted for it either. Basically, here are some of my thought processes...



I've been focusing my resources on mechs rather than weapons for a while now, and for mechs, I've been kinda/sorta collecting the older mechs that I never really played with. My appetite for new stuff isn't that great considering I have to level my stuff pretty high for it to be usable, and heavy weapons need to be minimum R6.1 so that I have second copy. So, for my mechs, I have a pretty limited range of weapons I have ready to use.

For Aegis, I'd originally thought of CB12, EM12 or DL8/16, but CBs are dead, I can't hit the broadside of a barn with EMs, and DL8/16 while great in CPC isn't that great in TDMs and FFAs. So, I really wanted NL12 to work and I worked at it. I'm actually getting pretty good with it too. It's kinda like a short range RM system that is great at point blank range. My problems now with it though are that it just doesn't work fast enough vs the frenetic pace of most games. For example, if I start off with it, then I fall behind on Control Points. In TDMs, I get out DPS'd by virtually every weapon out there being used actively by AI and humans. The strength of this weapon lies in terrain and you can't always find the right elevated or hilly terrain to make the most of the weapon (unless you camp of course which I hate doing). In CQC encounters, as stated, most other weapons will have much higher DPS, even MRs. This is somewhat mitigated with the Aegis shield and the relatively fast reload of the NL. But, lately, the Aegis shield isn't holding up as much due to MGs and SRs. 

I've even tried the NLs on Surge again since I had some success with it and put the ATs on Aegis. Tried for a few games but just can't shake my reflexes so this set up doesn't work for me.

I've even splurged on Baron and got him decently leveled. I don't have gold EM implants so I have to make do with the purple ones, but really at the end of the day, implants don't help if I can't it anything...   Still, for some CPC games, I can hit well enough to squeak a win - if my AI teammates don't suddenly get lobotomies that is.

DL8/16 just lacks punch for a tank. I have my DL16 maxed and my DL8 almost maxed but while this combo works great for mid range combat, for a tank in CQC it doesn't quite have the oomph... I think my plan is to use EM12s on the Aegis for CPC games and then switch to MR12 for TDM games. NLs will come out occasionally for some games when I get frustrated with EMs.

I've got enough Acoins now to pick up Orion. I've always wanted to try this mech out. I don't have enough bps to max it though. I only have about 146 bps and it comes at a R4, which means I have to rank it up twice. So, if/when I pick it up, it's another long road to maxing it. I think it's ability will synch nicely with EMs so I'm looking forward to that. I'm still a horrible sniper though so we'll see how long that lasts. But, I'm thinking the Orion will do well with either DL or NL.

Nice breakdown. I've put my NL12 on hold til the gold barrage pilot comes out for A-Coins. I imagine by then, there will be a legendary barrage weapon but we'll see. Have you tried them in Eclipse? An old clan mate of mine like that combo back in the day. I could see RG12s being a nice weapon for Aegis. Could be worth swapping them and trying it out.

      I'm working on the barrage weapon achievement for Eclipse using a single NL10.  It gets a good amount of kills at close to mid range (50m?).  And it's a fun combo imo.  Longer range attacks aren't very effective or accurate.  But they are good for harassing mechs hiding behind objects.  So try closer enemies and your results will improve. ;-)

So, I ended up getting a second hangar cause I was getting tired of swapping out weapons and mechs for various things. But...I've got it down to a science as the only thing I really change is the weapons on my Panther. I put on EM16 when I want to practice and when I want to get those 10 pilot marks that I usually miss out on.

Without a pic, my main hangar is now:

KS or Redeemer with HR12 - Stefania is maxed and HR12 is at 6.3.
Aegis with DL8/16 - all maxed
Eclipse with RG12 - RG12 at 6.3 (or 4?) Arch Angel is maxed.
Surge with AT12 - all maxed
Panther with GB16 or EM16 - all beam related gear is maxed and Baron and EM16 still have a ways to go. Sometimes I'll throw RG16 on for TDM or FFA matches with a maxed Maverick.

I've been playing around and trying to come up with a purpose for my second hangar. I did the light mech hangar for a while but light mechs, even maxed, do not do well in matches when your overall SP goes higher than a certain number. I'm still experimenting to see what that number is. I do see AI mechs with non-maxed gear, but heck even with maxed light mechs, non-maxed gear is enough to one shot kill you. I even tried a couple of games with just Tengu with SG8 and Shadow with DL8 to see how that would go. SP was under 3k with just these two and I meched out about halfway through the match.

So, I don't really know what I'm gonna do with my second hangar. I'm tempted to rebuild my RG16 Guardian back to it's former glory. I have the system crash range gold implant and the purple width implant before and it made the Guardian amazing in brawls. But, I need the RG damage and reload implants too, so that means I'll either have to wait for another legendary pilot, strip down Baron and make him a RG pilot, or just run with Maverick and use only 3 implants and have to figure out with implants I'm sacrificing.

Another thought... I now have all 3 spider mechs and if they come out with 2 more, I can build a spider mech hangar. That would be pretty cool except I'd been focusing too much on heavy EN weapons that I don't really have good 8EN weapons. I have DL8 maxed, SG8 decently leveled, JR8 decently leveled and that's about it. I do have CG8 but don't know if I really want to commit to that since leveling anything legendary will sharply increase my overall SP. Up to now, my tactic was to just single heavy guns.

Anyway...enough rambling...sorry...just trying to organize my thoughts...

   Koalabear My first hangar I use for tournament or 5v5 mostly. My second hangar has mechs going for achievements or occasionally a cpc hangar to capture control points for the weekly 200 acoins. Nomad and Vortex do most of the captures these days. That hangar is very low sp, under 2000. 

Just a couple of quick thoughts...

Nades work really well on Eclipse.
RG12 are amazing on Surge.
MR12/8 are actually decent on Seeker.

Can't wait to max Seeker now and try Nades and MR12 on it!

I’d suggest the EG Surge over the AT. You could always bring the ATs out for specialization sprees or to change things up, the challenge, etc. but the EGs would be far less situational and have less of the ammo problem ATs have. 

I’ve seen PG Bastions put to good use by AI and players. Not a bad call. Otherwise, you could place those on your eclipse and slide your DLs to your Stalker. But I’m still a DL Stalker hooligan. and the fact that mechs have layers now like onions do makes DLs seem buffed.  I understand it’s a glass cannon and the lock-on feature for DLs can be maddening. Especially on tourney maps like today’s where you can’t quite get that angle. 

If the DL Stalker is long in the tooth the HRs are good. Possibly the best place for HRs in the MOD meta. (I think we’re gonna see more artillery stalkers at some point. )

I’ve seen some stellar Disruptor Guardian ( and Gatecrasher) play by players recently. Really made me wish I’d had a Guardian myself. At EN16 Disruptors are dangerous and peel layers off mechs well. Surprised we don’t see more people using them or YouTube influencers suggesting them to the budget minded. 

Happy hunting KB!

Random im srry but is MA worth starting? I like robot games especially War Robots

I've literally tried all the mech games in the Play Store and because there's nothing better, I'm still here playing MA. I started playing 4 years ago when it was still in Beta and started a thread here to let my fellow forum members know. We had enough people frustrated with War Robots that they jumped on the MA bandwagon. Ironically, I first found out about MA from an ad while playing War Robots!

TBH, I don't know if its worth starting. If you are a F2P player, you will get frustrated. But, if you're just a casual gamer, you can still have fun.

For me, the introduction of the Mods has me questioning how much longer I'll be playing this game. The multi layer shield that they implemented is basically Mk2 and Mk3 of War Robots so Plarium is definitely heading in the same P2W direction of War Robots. Still,  I do still enjoy the fast pace of this game as opposed to other mech games. I'd say it's somewhere between a FPS and War Robots in terms of game pace and it certainly adds to the skill element of the game.