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Post by phoenix232 on Nov 21, 2016 16:02:54 GMT -5
I definitly want to progress forward, aiming for high silver at least. I'm big on hit and runs with my Gep, and midrange shenanigans with the Pins.. Was thinking of eventually going towards two or three Griff setups, maybe 2 DB and an RDB. Save the plasma weapons for my knifes, maybe a Rhino and Galahad. So every weapon I'm using now will definitly see use in the future (which is why I'm fielding bots that use them, no wasted upgrade time).
I'd like to get my mags and Taran into rotation, but I'm not sure what I'd take out. I could take the 4xGekkos out of rotation, since I doubt they'd see much use at high levels, but they're very handy right now for sniping light flag cappers and clubbers. Probably put mags on it once I get my 4th,then just save up for a 2nd taran. I'm just really hesitant to get rid of my only long range platform :/
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Post by moody on Nov 21, 2016 16:14:01 GMT -5
phoenix232 - What do you want to do long-term? Would you rather stay where you are or move up? In the mean time you might as well push those weapons towards level 8. Then you have the choice to leave them on the bots or pull them and put them on heavies and flip back and forth, switching tiers as you like. The heavies can always be upgrading in the background, too. That's what I have been doing. Most weapons at 8 (some still upgrading from 7). Just spent the last dozen or so battles with my medium hanger (all level 3's with the same 7-8 weapons). Win rate something like 90% and usually top damage (by a long way). Compared to my heavy hanger where my win rate is closer to 60% and usually 3rd to 4th place on damage. With the same skill level this makes me think that I am perfectly placed right at the top of whatever tier I am on for medium. As such... Is the 'keep weapons two levels above bots' strictly accurate. Mine are 4 or 5 levels above and doing extremely well. I might experiment. I have an old hanger full of level 5 mediums (2 boa, 1 vityez, 1 golumn, 1 patton) from before i knew about leveling weapons first. I'll arm them up with the same level weapons and see if I end up fighting with / against the same level opponents. |
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Post by moody on Nov 21, 2016 16:20:15 GMT -5
I definitly want to progress forward, aiming for high silver at least. I'm big on hit and runs with my Gep, and midrange shenanigans with the Pins.. Was thinking of eventually going towards two or three Griff setups, maybe 2 DB and an RDB. Save the plasma weapons for my knifes, maybe a Rhino and Galahad. So every weapon I'm using now will definitly see use in the future (which is why I'm fielding bots that use them, no wasted upgrade time). I'd like to get my mags and Taran into rotation, but I'm not sure what I'd take out. I could take the 4xGekkos out of rotation, since I doubt they'd see much use at high levels, but they're very handy right now for sniping light flag cappers and clubbers. Probably put mags on it once I get my 4th,then just save up for a 2nd taran. I'm just really hesitant to get rid of my only long range platform :/ A DB is a knife. Or possibly a cleaver. Get the Taran into rotation. Maybe put it on your golum. You will be amazed at just how much damage you can do with it (especially on corner shots). I regularly run 2 or 3 Taran Boas and they can take 2 to 4 enemy on each and win. |
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Post by phoenix232 on Nov 21, 2016 17:16:24 GMT -5
Get the Taran into rotation. Maybe put it on your golum. You will be amazed at just how much damage you can do with it (especially on corner shots). I regularly run 2 or 3 Taran Boas and they can take 2 to 4 enemy on each and win. I have to admit, I was actually very tempted to remove the Golem entirely and swap it for another Boa. It's an alright bot, and can do some devastating damage, but it's far too fragile in comparison to the Boa. I like having the Orkan on it though, I can corner peek very effectively, with almost no visibility. I'll probably give the Taran another chance tonight, get some games in and see how it works in comparison. Since i'm not running in to many physical shields in my bracket, it'll probably perform better. (Full disclosure, I don't know what's better for sheer dps - rockets or plasma, lol). |
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Post by moody on Nov 21, 2016 17:41:11 GMT -5
Get the Taran into rotation. Maybe put it on your golum. You will be amazed at just how much damage you can do with it (especially on corner shots). I regularly run 2 or 3 Taran Boas and they can take 2 to 4 enemy on each and win. I have to admit, I was actually very tempted to remove the Golem entirely and swap it for another Boa. It's an alright bot, and can do some devastating damage, but it's far too fragile in comparison to the Boa. I like having the Orkan on it though, I can corner peek very effectively, with almost no visibility. I'll probably give the Taran another chance tonight, get some games in and see how it works in comparison. Since i'm not running in to many physical shields in my bracket, it'll probably perform better. (Full disclosure, I don't know what's better for sheer dps - rockets or plasma, lol). Hey, that's what I did. I haven't used a golem for ages. I generally use anything up to 4 boas (2 taren / 2 orkan) when I use my medium hanger. I find that the Taran tends to stay on target better than the orkan. The orkan is better vs stalkers though (can still get some damage in even when cloaked or around corners). |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 21, 2016 17:44:45 GMT -5
Get the Taran into rotation. Maybe put it on your golum. You will be amazed at just how much damage you can do with it (especially on corner shots). I regularly run 2 or 3 Taran Boas and they can take 2 to 4 enemy on each and win. I have to admit, I was actually very tempted to remove the Golem entirely and swap it for another Boa. It's an alright bot, and can do some devastating damage, but it's far too fragile in comparison to the Boa. I like having the Orkan on it though, I can corner peek very effectively, with almost no visibility. I'll probably give the Taran another chance tonight, get some games in and see how it works in comparison. Since i'm not running in to many physical shields in my bracket, it'll probably perform better. (Full disclosure, I don't know what's better for sheer dps - rockets or plasma, lol). DPS - Orkan. DPM - Taran (I think). Orkans do burst that eats through shields, but you definitely neeeeed to stay on target or lead the target a bit. Plasma, well, if they don't have a shield I would rather have a Taran all day long. |
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Post by moody on Nov 21, 2016 21:03:02 GMT -5
Galahad check! all the required gold and wsp weapons for my current chosen lineup check! Just using silver to upgrade things at the moment.
No other gold or wsp bots at the moment.
I would like to use some wsp for fun.
32050
Go!
(or do I wait for the 'chance' of new wsp bots / weapons).
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Post by Kinetic1 on Nov 21, 2016 23:26:16 GMT -5
Right place right time will get you crazy things. My max kills were from a single 4/6 quadmag Patton on Canyon. 11 kills. Sat behind the shield at the end of one of the bridge arms and just blasted away. No one tried to avoid and no one threw rockets at me. Same thing happened to me in a TT Boa, but I was in high silver then. I went to their spawn on DC and I was somewhere in front of the spawn. Somehow everybody just kept walking by, pretty much ignoring me. Sometimes I think I was on the good side of a glitch that day, except I was in squad with someone and he saw me and everything that happened. Yeaaah, who was that other guy? I remember he posted a screencap of the battle summary... |
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Post by moody on Nov 22, 2016 4:54:34 GMT -5
phoenix232 - What do you want to do long-term? Would you rather stay where you are or move up? In the mean time you might as well push those weapons towards level 8. Then you have the choice to leave them on the bots or pull them and put them on heavies and flip back and forth, switching tiers as you like. The heavies can always be upgrading in the background, too. That's what I have been doing. Most weapons at 8 (some still upgrading from 7). Just spent the last dozen or so battles with my medium hanger (all level 3's with the same 7-8 weapons). Win rate something like 90% and usually top damage (by a long way). Compared to my heavy hanger where my win rate is closer to 60% and usually 3rd to 4th place on damage. With the same skill level this makes me think that I am perfectly placed right at the top of whatever tier I am on for medium. As such... Is the 'keep weapons two levels above bots' strictly accurate. Mine are 4 or 5 levels above and doing extremely well. I might experiment. I have an old hanger full of level 5 mediums (2 boa, 1 vityez, 1 golumn, 1 patton) from before i knew about leveling weapons first. I'll arm them up with the same level weapons and see if I end up fighting with / against the same level opponents. Ok did this experiment tonight. Actually half lev 5 half lev 6. All mediums with lev 7-8 weapons. This is a way tougher tier than lev 3/7 mediums. Mostly heavies, fewer people trying for beacons and not easy to win. Win rate down from the 90s to about the 60s from about 10 matches. still levelling weapons and considering a carnage and a rhino. |
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Post by DogTrail on Nov 22, 2016 21:04:13 GMT -5
Same thing happened to me in a TT Boa, but I was in high silver then. I went to their spawn on DC and I was somewhere in front of the spawn. Somehow everybody just kept walking by, pretty much ignoring me. Sometimes I think I was on the good side of a glitch that day, except I was in squad with someone and he saw me and everything that happened. Yeaaah, who was that other guy? I remember he posted a screencap of the battle summary... Some guy who plays with the big boys now...  |
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Post by DogTrail on Nov 22, 2016 21:10:48 GMT -5
That's what I have been doing. Most weapons at 8 (some still upgrading from 7). Just spent the last dozen or so battles with my medium hanger (all level 3's with the same 7-8 weapons). Win rate something like 90% and usually top damage (by a long way). Compared to my heavy hanger where my win rate is closer to 60% and usually 3rd to 4th place on damage. With the same skill level this makes me think that I am perfectly placed right at the top of whatever tier I am on for medium. As such... Is the 'keep weapons two levels above bots' strictly accurate. Mine are 4 or 5 levels above and doing extremely well. I might experiment. I have an old hanger full of level 5 mediums (2 boa, 1 vityez, 1 golumn, 1 patton) from before i knew about leveling weapons first. I'll arm them up with the same level weapons and see if I end up fighting with / against the same level opponents. Ok did this experiment tonight. Actually half lev 5 half lev 6. All mediums with lev 7-8 weapons. This is a way tougher tier than lev 3/7 mediums. Mostly heavies, fewer people trying for beacons and not easy to win. Win rate down from the 90s to about the 60s from about 10 matches. still levelling weapons and considering a carnage and a rhino. You're jumping tiers, that's why. 4/7-8 mediums puts you in low silver, and near the maximum of what the tier would allow for medium bots, which would be 4/9. having a 6/8 medium bot likely puts you near high silver, which in turn gets muddled with low gold. If you tried putting in heavies with your 7-8 weapons, then that would be 6/7-8 heavies at the minimum, then that's more solidly in high silver. If you had a L7 heavy, it's much more likely you're getting mixed with low gold already. So yes, your sweet spot at the moment is 4/9 mediums. The general rule "keep weapons 2 levels above bots" isn't strictly accurate, especially if we follow what we know about MM and tiers. However, it's usually enough to keep you out of trouble and make sure your bots don't push you up a tier that your weapons are not ready for. 60% win rate isn't that bad with your 5-6/7-8 hangar, although of course nowhere near as good as 90%. |
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Post by moody on Nov 22, 2016 21:48:35 GMT -5
Ok did this experiment tonight. Actually half lev 5 half lev 6. All mediums with lev 7-8 weapons. This is a way tougher tier than lev 3/7 mediums. Mostly heavies, fewer people trying for beacons and not easy to win. Win rate down from the 90s to about the 60s from about 10 matches. still levelling weapons and considering a carnage and a rhino. You're jumping tiers, that's why. 4/7-8 mediums puts you in low silver, and near the maximum of what the tier would allow for medium bots, which would be 4/9. having a 6/8 medium bot likely puts you near high silver, which in turn gets muddled with low gold. If you tried putting in heavies with your 7-8 weapons, then that would be 6/7-8 heavies at the minimum, then that's more solidly in high silver. If you had a L7 heavy, it's much more likely you're getting mixed with low gold already. So yes, your sweet spot at the moment is 4/9 mediums. The general rule "keep weapons 2 levels above bots" isn't strictly accurate, especially if we follow what we know about MM and tiers. However, it's usually enough to keep you out of trouble and make sure your bots don't push you up a tier that your weapons are not ready for. 60% win rate isn't that bad with your 5-6/7-8 hangar, although of course nowhere near as good as 90%. A little more playing at this tier. I can't help but think that it is virtually the exact same tier as I get when using all level 6 heavies. A lot of griffins. Odd galahads, garraths. Quite a few Rhinos and Carnages and I even came across a lancelot. (died without engaging with it and by the time I got back to the action it was gone). The terrible thing is that the medium bots do actually hold their own in this setting. |
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Post by moody on Nov 23, 2016 5:27:49 GMT -5
Ok. I went downright insane. I have about 4000 workshop points left.
Current crazy hanger:
6/8 taren boa
6/8 trident crv vityaz
3/8 plasma Galahad
1/8 thunder carnage
1/8 DB Rhino
I just wanted to play with options beyond my standard. I am still levelling weapons to 8 in the background.
I plan to level the Galahad and rhino to 6 so that they can play with the big boys. Not sure where I am going to keep the carnage for the moment.
Carnage really is a glass cannon at this level. I may have to save up for that second trident.
Have played 3 games, 1 win. Galahad keeps being man of the match. When I can afford it I will get another (1400 gold at present).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 6:49:00 GMT -5
Ok. I went downright insane. I have about 4000 workshop points left. Current crazy hanger: 6/8 taren boa 6/8 trident crv vityaz 3/8 plasma Galahad 1/8 thunder carnage 1/8 DB Rhino I just wanted to play with options beyond my standard. I am still levelling weapons to 8 in the background. I plan to level the Galahad and rhino to 6 so that they can play with the big boys. Not sure where I am going to keep the carnage for the moment. Carnage really is a glass cannon at this level. I may have to save up for that second trident. Have played 3 games, 1 win. Galahad keeps being man of the match. When I can afford it I will get another (1400 gold at present). How was MM with that mix? And jup, I rec a second Trident for the Carnage, at least till he gets some fat on his ribs... |
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Post by mpower on Nov 23, 2016 9:22:00 GMT -5
Hey guys,
Appreciate if I could seek you opinion on my hangar. I've recently beginning to see Griffins and Rhinos and some mediums with Lvl 12 weapons which I have no chance against. I'm also seeing Yamantau Map.
Level 2 Patton
3x 7 EP Mag
7 Aphid
Level 3 Boa
6 Taran
5 ECC
Level 2 Boa
6 Zeus
6 Taran
Level 1 Patton
4x Level 5 CRV
My Win ratio is 58% and it seems that my weapons are only chipping them while they take a huge chunk out of me. I'm considering either going to lights or sell my Level 7 weapons if that's what causing me to MM with Level 12 weapons.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 23, 2016 10:15:52 GMT -5
Hey guys, Appreciate if I could seek you opinion on my hangar. I've recently beginning to see Griffins and Rhinos and some mediums with Lvl 12 weapons which I have no chance against. I'm also seeing Yamantau Map. Level 2 Patton 3x 7 EP Mag 7 Aphid Level 3 Boa 6 Taran 5 ECC Level 2 Boa 6 Zeus 6 Taran Level 1 Patton 4x Level 5 CRV My Win ratio is 58% and it seems that my weapons are only chipping them while they take a huge chunk out of me. I'm considering either going to lights or sell my Level 7 weapons if that's what causing me to MM with Level 12 weapons. Don't sell anything yet. MM is pretty much whacked right now. |
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Post by moody on Nov 23, 2016 15:05:14 GMT -5
Ok. I went downright insane. I have about 4000 workshop points left. Current crazy hanger: 6/8 taren boa 6/8 trident crv vityaz 3/8 plasma Galahad 1/8 thunder carnage 1/8 DB Rhino I just wanted to play with options beyond my standard. I am still levelling weapons to 8 in the background. I plan to level the Galahad and rhino to 6 so that they can play with the big boys. Not sure where I am going to keep the carnage for the moment. Carnage really is a glass cannon at this level. I may have to save up for that second trident. Have played 3 games, 1 win. Galahad keeps being man of the match. When I can afford it I will get another (1400 gold at present). How was MM with that mix? And jup, I rec a second Trident for the Carnage, at least till he gets some fat on his ribs... About a week before i can afford the trident. MM was pretty full on. Lots of griffins, leos, natashas. Not many shield bots that i saw. I played and won 2 more games on 3 and 4th place damage. |
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Post by Muhlakai on Nov 23, 2016 15:15:11 GMT -5
My Win ratio is 58% and it seems that my weapons are only chipping them while they take a huge chunk out of me. I'm considering either going to lights or sell my Level 7 weapons if that's what causing me to MM with Level 12 weapons. Don't sell anything yet. MM is pretty much whacked right now. Zhou is right, but there's a few things you can do to help yourself. First, get all of your bots to level 3. That will give you a lot more durability. Next, get your weapons all up to 6, then your bots to 4.once you're there then it'll be a fine time to stop and reassess. |
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Post by moody on Nov 23, 2016 16:59:45 GMT -5
Next experiment (tonight). Back to my lev 3 boas along with the carnage, galahad and rhino and see if it puts me down a tier or not.
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Post by moody on Nov 23, 2016 18:19:41 GMT -5
Next experiment (tonight). Back to my lev 3 boas along with the carnage, galahad and rhino and see if it puts me down a tier or not. Oh, and I put my lvl 8 trident on the carnage along with a level 6 KWK (as a placeholder for the second trident). |
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Post by couchtrader on Nov 23, 2016 21:06:51 GMT -5
Next experiment (tonight). Back to my lev 3 boas along with the carnage, galahad and rhino and see if it puts me down a tier or not. It may place you in a lower tier but it won't be consistent. WSP and britbots automatically puts you in high silver matches. A long time ago, I was able to use a rhino and fujin in Low Silver by arming them with punishers or molots - fairly useless setup. |
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Post by mpower on Nov 23, 2016 21:34:54 GMT -5
Hey guys, Appreciate if I could seek you opinion on my hangar. I've recently beginning to see Griffins and Rhinos and some mediums with Lvl 12 weapons which I have no chance against. I'm also seeing Yamantau Map. Level 2 Patton 3x 7 EP Mag 7 Aphid Level 3 Boa 6 Taran 5 ECC Level 2 Boa 6 Zeus 6 Taran Level 1 Patton 4x Level 5 CRV My Win ratio is 58% and it seems that my weapons are only chipping them while they take a huge chunk out of me. I'm considering either going to lights or sell my Level 7 weapons if that's what causing me to MM with Level 12 weapons. Don't sell anything yet. MM is pretty much whacked right now. Thanks Zhou. I'm absolutely getting hammered by Lvl 12 weapons. Although they are using Lvl 1 medium bots against me but because of my Lvl 8 light weapon, I'm only causing very small damage while their Lvl 12 Mags took just a few shots to end me. I've only started to see Griffins, Fujin, and Lvl 12 weapons or Yamantau within these 2 weeks. Before that the bot levels and weapons were within my range. Last night my kill ratio dropped to 52%. |
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Post by mpower on Nov 23, 2016 21:45:13 GMT -5
My Win ratio is 58% and it seems that my weapons are only chipping them while they take a huge chunk out of me. I'm considering either going to lights or sell my Level 7 weapons if that's what causing me to MM with Level 12 weapons. Don't sell anything yet. MM is pretty much whacked right now. Zhou is right, but there's a few things you can do to help yourself. First, get all of your bots to level 3. That will give you a lot more durability. Next, get your weapons all up to 6, then your bots to 4.once you're there then it'll be a fine time to stop and reassess. Thank you for the advice Muhlakai, my weapons are on average level 7. Could that be a reason I've been suddenly bumped up to the next tier or has MM been changed. I'm fighting a lot of Lvl 1 lights mediums heavies with Level 12 weapons. I'm seeing Level 6 heavies quite reguarly as well. If MM doesn't change, my Level 3 bots and Level 7 weapons won't survive. I did about 20 matches yesterday and the only way I could win was because Reds were majority snipers or newbies with good weapons but shooting anywhere but me. I thought perhaps my weapon levels are too high so I equipped my boas and patton with level 1-5 molots, crvs, AT spirals etc. But still I ran into Level 1 bots of all class and Level 12 weapons. I'm pretty certain if I sold off my Level 2 and 3 Boas and Patton and rebuy them as Level 1, I will still be seeing these guys with Level 12 weapons. |
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Post by Muhlakai on Nov 23, 2016 23:06:23 GMT -5
Zhou is right, but there's a few things you can do to help yourself. First, get all of your bots to level 3. That will give you a lot more durability. Next, get your weapons all up to 6, then your bots to 4.once you're there then it'll be a fine time to stop and reassess. Thank you for the advice Muhlakai, my weapons are on average level 7. Could that be a reason I've been suddenly bumped up to the next tier or has MM been changed. I'm fighting a lot of Lvl 1 lights mediums heavies with Level 12 weapons. I'm seeing Level 6 heavies quite reguarly as well. If MM doesn't change, my Level 3 bots and Level 7 weapons won't survive. I did about 20 matches yesterday and the only way I could win was because Reds were majority snipers or newbies with good weapons but shooting anywhere but me. I thought perhaps my weapon levels are too high so I equipped my boas and patton with level 1-5 molots, crvs, AT spirals etc. But still I ran into Level 1 bots of all class and Level 12 weapons. I'm pretty certain if I sold off my Level 2 and 3 Boas and Patton and rebuy them as Level 1, I will still be seeing these guys with Level 12 weapons. You will definitely see seal clubbers mauling you with lv 12 weapons on Geps/Rogs at all lower levels. You will also see waves of players using the same gear and then all using something else a few days later. Getting your bots up as I described will give them more durability and make them faster. Avoiding those maxed weapons is best done by either mauling them first or working up towards 4/9, 6/9 or higher. |
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 24, 2016 2:15:12 GMT -5
Don't sell anything yet. MM is pretty much whacked right now. Thanks Zhou. I'm absolutely getting hammered by Lvl 12 weapons. Although they are using Lvl 1 medium bots against me but because of my Lvl 8 light weapon, I'm only causing very small damage while their Lvl 12 Mags took just a few shots to end me. I've only started to see Griffins, Fujin, and Lvl 12 weapons or Yamantau within these 2 weeks. Before that the bot levels and weapons were within my range. Last night my kill ratio dropped to 52%. I definitely noticed the increase in difficulty for lower tiers recently, this is probably a good reason why people should move up tier as soon as they can. Another suggestion is to buy new bots at level 1, and slap on the upgraded weapons to see how you fare. As far as gold tier is concerned, at least for Anroid, it is still pretty much balanced for me. |
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Post by moody on Nov 24, 2016 15:07:26 GMT -5
Have had a few games with the 3/8 setup. 50/50 success rate and the teams aren't much different from 6/8.
Carnage upgraded to lev 3. Haven't touched the rhino yet. I like the carnage and see what the dual trident setup is all about now (even with one trident and a Kwk)
Had a game in power plant. Started with boa, killed a gepard on the way to a beacon and got wiped out by a plasma griffin. Went to the rhino and realised that only one close beacon had been taken (!!!!). Losing blue bar rapidly. Got the second beacon and advanced under fire to sit on the third shield up. Eventually got killed and the beacon turned back but that was against 4 reds and my team mates finally managed to get to another beacon (3 to 2).
Into carnage. Peppered 3 reds and kept them heads down behind a building. Eventually killed two. At last a plasma griffin came after me and I couldn't back pedal fast enough.
Currently 4 blue to 1 red beacon but a lot more health on the red side. Got the Galahad and decided to run for the unguarded 5th red beacon. Did not make it but we barely won anyway. Second on damage first on beacons.
What I take away from this. My eventual gold hanger I think will include galahads but not necessarily rhinos. I am thinking 2 galahads, 2 griffins and a carnage at this point. Speed rather than brawn.
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Post by warfighter on Nov 24, 2016 17:55:08 GMT -5
I have taken the liberty of sorting all weapons EXCEPT artillery and snipers into two categories, based on the combat style that they dictate.
The 1st category of weapons should be used in brief, fierce exchanges of fire which I have termed "broadside volleys". These weapons generally have long reload times and deal high damage. Examples : CRV Pin, SRF Pinata, Tulumbas, Orkan.
To deliver broadside volleys correctly, you should fire your shots squarely at the enemy, then retreat to cover while reloading. This may be complemented by creeping into range and sneak attacks upon your enemy.
A word of caution --- when small and fast robots rush you, and your volley completely misses them, prepare to get hurt.
Weapons in the 2nd category have little or no reload time and ususally low damage. Examples include EP Magnum, ESG Tarans, ECC Thunder and machine guns. To use these efficiently, you must lay down constant suppressing fire on the enemy. That means you have to train your weapons on the enemy the whole time, AND also keep shifting position to evade enemy fire. Accuracy must be sustained until your opponent is destroyed.
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Post by mpower on Nov 24, 2016 21:03:41 GMT -5
Thank you for the advice Muhlakai, my weapons are on average level 7. Could that be a reason I've been suddenly bumped up to the next tier or has MM been changed. I'm fighting a lot of Lvl 1 lights mediums heavies with Level 12 weapons. I'm seeing Level 6 heavies quite reguarly as well. If MM doesn't change, my Level 3 bots and Level 7 weapons won't survive. I did about 20 matches yesterday and the only way I could win was because Reds were majority snipers or newbies with good weapons but shooting anywhere but me. I thought perhaps my weapon levels are too high so I equipped my boas and patton with level 1-5 molots, crvs, AT spirals etc. But still I ran into Level 1 bots of all class and Level 12 weapons. I'm pretty certain if I sold off my Level 2 and 3 Boas and Patton and rebuy them as Level 1, I will still be seeing these guys with Level 12 weapons. You will definitely see seal clubbers mauling you with lv 12 weapons on Geps/Rogs at all lower levels. You will also see waves of players using the same gear and then all using something else a few days later. Getting your bots up as I described will give them more durability and make them faster. Avoiding those maxed weapons is best done by either mauling them first or working up towards 4/9, 6/9 or higher. I'm getting my bots up to level 4 and leveling up weapons to level 10 or more and see if this works. Thanks |
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Post by mpower on Nov 24, 2016 21:06:30 GMT -5
Thanks Zhou. I'm absolutely getting hammered by Lvl 12 weapons. Although they are using Lvl 1 medium bots against me but because of my Lvl 8 light weapon, I'm only causing very small damage while their Lvl 12 Mags took just a few shots to end me. I've only started to see Griffins, Fujin, and Lvl 12 weapons or Yamantau within these 2 weeks. Before that the bot levels and weapons were within my range. Last night my kill ratio dropped to 52%. I definitely noticed the increase in difficulty for lower tiers recently, this is probably a good reason why people should move up tier as soon as they can. Another suggestion is to buy new bots at level 1, and slap on the upgraded weapons to see how you fare. As far as gold tier is concerned, at least for Anroid, it is still pretty much balanced for me. With my current level of bots, I'm seeing Level 1 bots from light to mediums spotting weapons level 9-12. It seems that leveling up my weapons might help since I'm already MM to all classes of bots. Last night I was MM to level 6 griffins, leos, etc. |
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Post by moody on Dec 1, 2016 5:09:49 GMT -5
Without gold mining it has taken only ten days. (Since the 22nd). I have now got a second Galahad. First has barely levelled to 6.
Which leaves me a quandary. Ideally I would like to run three griffins (PDB, RDB and DB) and two galahads (PDB, and maybe Orkan mags) But I don't have enough weapons to go around.
Currently running the second Galahad with an 8 pinatas, a 7 magnum and a 6 Tulumbas. I am thinking it will be quicker (current rate about 6 days) to get an orkan and run a DB Galahad - but that puts back the third. Alternatively drop a griffin, have two PDB Galahads and keep trying to do something worthwhile with the Carnage.
Opinions?
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