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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 1, 2017 19:31:30 GMT -5
Can I make a recommendation? Don't.
I figured I'd write something that I could link both now and in he future when I see people say this. I've been seeing this sentiment over and over in thread after thread: "I'm saving my Ag/Au/WSP/IC for X weapon/bot that will come out someday......." Again, I implore you: please don't.
Here's the deal: when it comes out you're going to be sorely disappointed. See, when it comes out and you grab it on day 1 it's going to be useless on your bot until it's upgraded. So you'll pour your silver in, set the alarm on your phone, and play some rounds to build up more Ag.
In those rounds you'll see whales who not only dropped cash to buy the toy in your storage, but also ponied up the shiny gold to upgrade it right away. And boy howdy, that new toy is going to be as glorious as you hoped and you'll watch it melt ancilots, furies, and stalkers in stealth. It'll single-handedly deal a million damage and get 15 captures per round. The whole time you'll be crushed under its mighty magnificence and yearn for that distant day a week from now when you can use yours.
...until finally, the day will come. For days you'll have seen more and more of them on the field and finally, at long last, yours will be among them. So you throw it in your hangar and hit at "Start Battle" button and waltz onto the field with excitement.
...where you promptly get crushed repeatedly. The new toy seems more like a liability than an asset. You'll wonder what's wrong, lose another round or two (one of which where at least one teammate has your toy in every slot of their hangar). At which point you'll take to the forums here to rant. "That shiny new toy is suxxorz! Pix can [censored] my [redacted]!!1!one! War Robots sux and I'm done with this game!!eleven!!!
See, while you were upgrading, we sat around figuring out how to avoid being crushed by the object of your desire. So by the time you pull it out we're not soft targets anymore. The folks who got to roll over us were the whales who dropped tons of cash. You, on the other hand, are like most of us and didn't drop $100 on Au on Day 1. You're not a whale (or you wouldn't be saving up) and you missed the crest of the wave.
Now, sure, if you watch the meta carefully, pay attention in the forums, and practice hard, and tweak your technique and your hangar you can figure out the sweet spot for that toy. Hopefully it's a play style you actually enjoy and maybe even resembles the fantasies you had imagined.
...but there's another way that will *probably* help you have a lot more fun.
Stop saving. You already know what would be interesting to try in your hangar *right now.* (And, frankly, if you don't then we're totally able to help you figure that out!) Buy the existing bot or weapon that will work well with your play style and help advance your game. Spend the time NOW to upgrade it and learn to master its use on the field. With any luck it'll actually pay for itself in higher win rates and gold gains by the time the shiny toy you dreamed of comes out. (Let's face it: we have NO IDEA when it'll *actually* arrive.) ....but something even better will happen.
When that new toy drops you'll be a stronger player with a stronger hangar that you're even more excited about than you would have been. You won't get rolled as easily by those whales and you'll be at the leading edge of the curve of people that learns how to beat that toy you secretly hoped would be the pay-to-win key to domination. You'll have more fun post-release and you won't have to deal with an agonizing wait or disappointment. And back here on the forums we'll be relying on your experience to help us learn how to beat those stinkin' Reds with hangars full of your favorite toy.
In the end, you might still buy that toy. ....but you'll also be forewarned in case it's a Jesse or Butch or gekko. So for now, put it on a "read forum posts with news about it" list, but please, don't save for it. Or at least, don't save for it *yet.* Buy one of the other cool things that will help you play better right now and when that cool new thing comes out I'll stand shoulder to really-high-hip with you (I drive a lot of Boas; no shoulders.) as we crush the Red whales that have that coveted object you want so badly.
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Post by Paps on Aug 1, 2017 19:38:09 GMT -5
I can dig it.
Good advice ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 19:43:02 GMT -5
If it's that case, you should save more gold and be 'that guy' to dump gold to speed up upgrades. Your argument does make a point, but it's not going to convince me to spend my 7K gold on extra Gekkos or Gareths instead of the upcoming OP bots / weaps. Unless they cost another stupid currency, of course...
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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 1, 2017 19:45:53 GMT -5
If it's that case, you should save more gold and be 'that guy' to dump gold to speed up upgrades. Your argument does make a point, but it's not going to convince me to spend my 7K gold on extra Gekkos or Gareths instead of the upcoming OP bots / weaps. Unless they cost another stupid currency, of course... Yikes. Are those the things that will *actually* help your hangar? Don't chase the meta. Move methodically, but move. Also, you're already end game. You're hardly the audience. You already own several of everything you need. This is targeted at the folks who are less than a year in and think that the next big thing will be the only thing they need. |
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Post by DIeGo100% on Aug 1, 2017 22:26:26 GMT -5
Can I make a recommendation? Don't. I figured I'd write something that I could link both now and in he future when I see people say this. I've been seeing this sentiment over and over in thread after thread: "I'm saving my Ag/Au/WSP/IC for X weapon/bot that will come out someday......." Again, I implore you: please don't. Here's the deal: when it comes out you're going to be sorely disappointed. See, when it comes out and you grab it on day 1 it's going to be useless on your bot until it's upgraded. So you'll pour your silver in, set the alarm on your phone, and play some rounds to build up more Ag. In those rounds you'll see whales who not only dropped cash to buy the toy in your storage, but also ponied up the shiny gold to upgrade it right away. And boy howdy, that new toy is going to be as glorious as you hoped and you'll watch it melt ancilots, furies, and stalkers in stealth. It'll single-handedly deal a million damage and get 15 captures per round. The whole time you'll be crushed under its mighty magnificence and yearn for that distant day a week from now when you can use yours. ...until finally, the day will come. For days you'll have seen more and more of them on the field and finally, at long last, yours will be among them. So you throw it in your hangar and hit at "Start Battle" button and waltz onto the field with excitement. ...where you promptly get crushed repeatedly. The new toy seems more like a liability than an asset. You'll wonder what's wrong, lose another round or two (one of which where at least one teammate has your toy in every slot of their hangar). At which point you'll take to the forums here to rant. "That shiny new toy is suxxorz! Pix can [censored] my [redacted]!!1!one! War Robots sux and I'm done with this game!!eleven!!! See, while you were upgrading, we sat around figuring out how to avoid being crushed by the object of your desire. So by the time you pull it out we're not soft targets anymore. The folks who got to roll over us were the whales who dropped tons of cash. You, on the other hand, are like most of us and didn't drop $100 on Au on Day 1. You're not a whale (or you wouldn't be saving up) and you missed the crest of the wave. Now, sure, if you watch the meta carefully, pay attention in the forums, and practice hard, and tweak your technique and your hangar you can figure out the sweet spot for that toy. Hopefully it's a play style you actually enjoy and maybe even resembles the fantasies you had imagined. ...but there's another way that will *probably* help you have a lot more fun. Stop saving. You already know what would be interesting to try in your hangar *right now.* (And, frankly, if you don't then we're totally able to help you figure that out!) Buy the existing bot or weapon that will work well with your play style and help advance your game. Spend the time NOW to upgrade it and learn to master its use on the field. With any luck it'll actually pay for itself in higher win rates and gold gains by the time the shiny toy you dreamed of comes out. (Let's face it: we have NO IDEA when it'll *actually* arrive.) ....but something even better will happen. When that new toy drops you'll be a stronger player with a stronger hangar that you're even more excited about than you would have been. You won't get rolled as easily by those whales and you'll be at the leading edge of the curve of people that learns how to beat that toy you secretly hoped would be the pay-to-win key to domination. You'll have more fun post-release and you won't have to deal with an agonizing wait or disappointment. And back here on the forums we'll be relying on your experience to help us learn how to beat those stinkin' Reds with hangars full of your favorite toy. In the end, you might still buy that toy. ....but you'll also be forewarned in case it's a Jesse or Butch or gekko. So for now, put it on a "read forum posts with news about it" list, but please, don't save for it. Or at least, don't save for it *yet.* Buy one of the other cool things that will help you play better right now and when that cool new thing comes out I'll stand shoulder to really-high-hip with you (I drive a lot of Boas; no shoulders.) as we crush the Red whales that have that coveted object you want so badly. Amazing post! i learned this from experience, first i was saving for aphids when i buy i had the chance to level them up to leve 7 before the nerft the recieved... guess what= still have those aphids at level 7 cuz i started upgrading tridents and saving for fury... when i got the fury and tridents at level 8 the ancile got a buff, so my fury trident (level 8) wasnt able to break shields... guess what= i left the tridents at level 8 cuz it was time to upgrade the lancelot and get the ancile for him... after some weeks i got the lancelot at level 9, tarans level 9 and ancile level 9 and pins and tulumbas are now breaking my shield 500 meters away from me... after that i said 「fluffernutter」 it, everytime i was able to get the new meta build it was too late... rigth now iam just upgrading what i havent use before and i dont care about new bots and weapons there is always a counter to them... and they will get nerfted anyways |
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Post by ΒΣRΖΣRKΛ²³ on Aug 1, 2017 23:10:02 GMT -5
Nah. It takes around a week to get anything to a playable level. So you're saying everybody adapts within a week? I don't think so. plus: if its op, what are you gonna do in 1 week?
Your basically sayin don't wait for the britbots, go buy a rhino now !
Yeah ok..that's bad advice. I save for the dashes and when they hit the meta i will ride the first wave.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 1:30:08 GMT -5
Probably event only for a while
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Post by T34 on Aug 2, 2017 1:57:18 GMT -5
Several things are on my mind when looking at the Summer Road map and my experience on the test server.
- The dash bots seem to be OP
- The summer road map said they are here to take on the lancelots (wasn’t around but the lancelot was released to take on the Rhino from what I read somewhere)
- The summer road map said they will be nerfed if they are OP (so at least as good as the lancelots after balancing)
- Pix put in a lot of effort into these bots and they want people to buy them. Sell lots and lots
- They are new toys and would be fun to have and fun to play with
- Got most of the current toys that I want
- The first adopters will buy them and they will level them almost instantaneously to a decent level
- Then feedback will come within a week (or even less)
- Hmmmmmm, there is a smell in the air…………… meta change
If so, why not save for the new toys? Only a couple weeks til the 15th August. Fattened up already and not going to blow it now just before the curtain raiser ?
But each to their own as its only a game.
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Post by T34 on Aug 2, 2017 2:04:08 GMT -5
Probably event only for a while I see your point but tend to think that via a gold price they could generate more income. also they want these bots out there as per the summer roadmap statements. |
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Post by seanh on Aug 2, 2017 3:09:55 GMT -5
I am saving, kind of.
While I completely get the OP's points, I don't think it a case of sitting around like a giddy kid on Christmas eve. I have never been on the test server, haven’t been around long enough to know what a bit meta changes looks like, don't know if / when I would be able to get a dash or even which one. The only thing I do know is that in the relatively short term either everything will change or at least we may some clarity on when everything may start to gradually change. Thanks to the event (and beer induced gambling on that spinny thing) I have more resources now than I ever expected to have. I don't necessarily want to 'save' it, I just don't want to ‘blow it’ on stuff that is potentially obsolete in two weeks (probably a lot longer, but you get the idea).
The resources that I’m hoarding are not really primarily to buy dashes, it would be nice to get one I suppose, but I won’t get too worked up if I can’t. The resources are mainly to get / upgrade whatever I need to survive them. There is a lot of talk about what may work, but no one is 100% sure.
Now that said I haven’t been sitting on my hands, I’ve been getting as much potentially viable stuff to 9/9 as I can so I have options. The event left me with lots of loot, so there are plenty of contingencies I can work on. But I am keeping most of the Au, mainly so I can get: an extra zeus for a fury, if that is the ‘thing’ that works. Or more gecko’s for a patton or whatever. Keeping the WSP just in case a fleet of stalkers is the answer.
I will spend some resources on stuff that’s obvious, or that I need now, but really just don’t what to do anything stupid and be completely blind sided by their arrival.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 9:18:01 GMT -5
Probably event only for a while I see your point but tend to think that via a gold price they could generate more income. also they want these bots out there as per the summer roadmap statements. One would think, but the Wild Bunch is a perfect example to the contrary. The Tempest is moving that way too. As far as/their roadmap, they are not dependable, accurate, and cannot be counted on. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 2, 2017 9:42:49 GMT -5
Can I make a recommendation? Don't. I figured I'd write something that I could link both now and in he future when I see people say this. I've been seeing this sentiment over and over in thread after thread: "I'm saving my Ag/Au/WSP/IC for X weapon/bot that will come out someday......." Again, I implore you: please don't. Here's the deal: when it comes out you're going to be sorely disappointed. See, when it comes out and you grab it on day 1 it's going to be useless on your bot until it's upgraded. So you'll pour your silver in, set the alarm on your phone, and play some rounds to build up more Ag. In those rounds you'll see whales who not only dropped cash to buy the toy in your storage, but also ponied up the shiny gold to upgrade it right away. And boy howdy, that new toy is going to be as glorious as you hoped and you'll watch it melt ancilots, furies, and stalkers in stealth. It'll single-handedly deal a million damage and get 15 captures per round. The whole time you'll be crushed under its mighty magnificence and yearn for that distant day a week from now when you can use yours. ...until finally, the day will come. For days you'll have seen more and more of them on the field and finally, at long last, yours will be among them. So you throw it in your hangar and hit at "Start Battle" button and waltz onto the field with excitement. ...where you promptly get crushed repeatedly. The new toy seems more like a liability than an asset. You'll wonder what's wrong, lose another round or two (one of which where at least one teammate has your toy in every slot of their hangar). At which point you'll take to the forums here to rant. "That shiny new toy is suxxorz! Pix can [censored] my [redacted]!!1!one! War Robots sux and I'm done with this game!!eleven!!! See, while you were upgrading, we sat around figuring out how to avoid being crushed by the object of your desire. So by the time you pull it out we're not soft targets anymore. The folks who got to roll over us were the whales who dropped tons of cash. You, on the other hand, are like most of us and didn't drop $100 on Au on Day 1. You're not a whale (or you wouldn't be saving up) and you missed the crest of the wave. Now, sure, if you watch the meta carefully, pay attention in the forums, and practice hard, and tweak your technique and your hangar you can figure out the sweet spot for that toy. Hopefully it's a play style you actually enjoy and maybe even resembles the fantasies you had imagined. ...but there's another way that will *probably* help you have a lot more fun. Stop saving. You already know what would be interesting to try in your hangar *right now.* (And, frankly, if you don't then we're totally able to help you figure that out!) Buy the existing bot or weapon that will work well with your play style and help advance your game. Spend the time NOW to upgrade it and learn to master its use on the field. With any luck it'll actually pay for itself in higher win rates and gold gains by the time the shiny toy you dreamed of comes out. (Let's face it: we have NO IDEA when it'll *actually* arrive.) ....but something even better will happen. When that new toy drops you'll be a stronger player with a stronger hangar that you're even more excited about than you would have been. You won't get rolled as easily by those whales and you'll be at the leading edge of the curve of people that learns how to beat that toy you secretly hoped would be the pay-to-win key to domination. You'll have more fun post-release and you won't have to deal with an agonizing wait or disappointment. And back here on the forums we'll be relying on your experience to help us learn how to beat those stinkin' Reds with hangars full of your favorite toy. In the end, you might still buy that toy. ....but you'll also be forewarned in case it's a Jesse or Butch or gekko. So for now, put it on a "read forum posts with news about it" list, but please, don't save for it. Or at least, don't save for it *yet.* Buy one of the other cool things that will help you play better right now and when that cool new thing comes out I'll stand shoulder to really-high-hip with you (I drive a lot of Boas; no shoulders.) as we crush the Red whales that have that coveted object you want so badly. You sir, win the internets today. Excellent post. |
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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 2, 2017 10:35:34 GMT -5
Yeah ok..that's bad advice. I save for the dashes and when they hit the meta i will ride the first wave. No, you won't. Unless you're bottom tier and don't need to upgrade them you won't be able to use them before the meta shifts. ...and let's be honest: unless you're saving a metric crap ton of Ag now it's going to take you longer than a week to get the money together for the upgrades anyhow. |
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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 2, 2017 10:42:48 GMT -5
Several things are on my mind when looking at the Summer Road map and my experience on the test server. - The dash bots seem to be OP - The summer road map said they are here to take on the lancelots (wasn’t around but the lancelot was released to take on the Rhino from what I read somewhere) - The summer road map said they will be nerfed if they are OP (so at least as good as the lancelots after balancing) - Pix put in a lot of effort into these bots and they want people to buy them. Sell lots and lots - They are new toys and would be fun to have and fun to play with - Got most of the current toys that I want - The first adopters will buy them and they will level them almost instantaneously to a decent level - Then feedback will come within a week (or even less) - Hmmmmmm, there is a smell in the air…………… meta change If so, why not save for the new toys? Only a couple weeks til the 15th August. Fattened up already and not going to blow it now just before the curtain raiser ? But each to their own as its only a game. Expecting the bots to come to the regular server as OP as the test server is ignoring what the test server is for. ...and "at least as good as" is a bad thing to expect. They could simply have an ability that does additional damage to shields, or it could just be hat they're going to be better at circling than the lance is at spinning. Expecting a powerhouse is very, very naive. Pix is *always* going to put out new content because new content generates new money from players. ...but you're *not* going to get to play with them as soon as you get them unless you're bottom tier. ...and those shieldbots? Yeah, they royally *stink* at low levels, which frustrated people when Eye came out because they were unusable at low levels/tiers. Read closer. I'm not saying don't buy the toys. I'm saying don't save now and chase he meta that hasn't arrived. Instead, get in front of the meta with a better hangar now. You're betting on Pix being on-time, bots coming out already OP, and usefulness at low levels. Those are all really, really bad bets. |
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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 2, 2017 10:50:54 GMT -5
I have never been on the test server, haven’t been around long enough to know what a bit meta changes looks like, don't know if / when I would be able to get a dash or even which one. Good news! You're the ideal audience for the post. Let's chat! The only thing I do know is that in the relatively short term either everything will change or at least we may some clarity on when everything may start to gradually change. Thanks to the event (and beer induced gambling on that spinny thing) I have more resources now than I ever expected to have. I don't necessarily want to 'save' it, I just don't want to ‘blow it’ on stuff that is potentially obsolete in two weeks (probably a lot longer, but you get the idea). More good news! Everything is *not* going to change. There have been cases where a released bot was OP (like the geps about a year ago) but even that didn't change everything. Lots of approaches were developed to deal with the problem by different groups of players. So don't fear: things that are good now will still be good in a few weeks. And I get how you feel about blowing resources. We've all felt that way at some point. I have GREAT news, though: we can help. Post your hangar in its own thread and we can help you figure out what will help you advance now and still be a great advantage in a few weeks. |
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Post by ΒΣRΖΣRKΛ²³ on Aug 2, 2017 10:57:00 GMT -5
So how does blowing all your gold before the new bots come put you ahead of the meta. Stuff you buy now needs leveling too - Only that you need forever to get the new stuff everybody else blows your bots to peaces with. So no, makes no sense at all.
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Post by Jame-thon on Aug 2, 2017 11:01:50 GMT -5
Valid points. One point you touched upon that is more in line with me is, it's just nice to switch it up. Try something new, even if it doesn't pan out to be the best, it'll be fun. Just depends on what you're looking at doing. I think certain bots excel over others in different scenarios and if that's the case with the dash, try to make it work where it can contribute in a hangar. The only thing for me is that if they make it too pricy like 15K AU and up, I'll pass and maybe I'll win one to play with during an event.
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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 2, 2017 11:03:03 GMT -5
So how does blowing all your gold before the new bots come put you ahead of the meta. Stuff you buy now needs leveling too - Only that you need forever to get the new stuff everybody else blows your bots to peaces with. So no, makes no sense at all. Carefully spending your gold on things that make your hangar more powerful right now.... A) gives you time to level it and be more powerful when the new tricks come out. B) allows you to earn more gold faster right now by increasing your damage/ability to cap beacons. C) broadens your skill and raises your personal ability to both deal with the new toys AND makes it easier for you to thrash with them if/when you DO buy one. D) when the new things come out you will be leveled and ready, rather than chasing after the meta in a panic. |
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Post by ΒΣRΖΣRKΛ²³ on Aug 2, 2017 11:41:48 GMT -5
So how does blowing all your gold before the new bots come put you ahead of the meta. Stuff you buy now needs leveling too - Only that you need forever to get the new stuff everybody else blows your bots to peaces with. So no, makes no sense at all. Carefully spending your gold on things that make your hangar more powerful right now.... A) gives you time to level it and be more powerful when the new tricks come out. B) allows you to earn more gold faster right now by increasing your damage/ability to cap beacons. C) broadens your skill and raises your personal ability to both deal with the new toys AND makes it easier for you to thrash with them if/when you DO buy one. D) when the new things come out you will be leveled and ready, rather than chasing after the meta in a panic. A. One week? What's the deal? B. No. C. No. D. YOU chase the meta in panic!! After you mech out so fast with your 5 rhinos you spent all you money on against my new and shiny britbots. Or your still run your kang dae Natasha when i already got tridents. Every week somebody is whining about all the lances he's seeing and what to do against them. Yet you try to convince people that they should buy rhinos now so they are ready and whatnot against a new meta no one has ever seen. I've got almost 10k. I could buy another lance and a fury, they might improve my hangar within 2 weeks. But I rather get me a kumiho and haechi. Sure if they got severe different stats and suck on the live server I can still buy a lance and a fury. But if they're op you put your money on the wrong horse and are stuck with it BIGTIME. You get the point? If I'm wrong, I have a meta hangar and two weak bots If you're wrong, you got a weak hangar and no resources. |
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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 2, 2017 13:15:02 GMT -5
Carefully spending your gold on things that make your hangar more powerful right now.... (Edit: does lots of things you forgot about) A. One week? What's the deal? B. No. C. No. D. YOU chase the meta in panic!! After you mech out so fast with your 5 rhinos you spent all you money on against my new and shiny britbots. Or your still run your kang dae Natasha when i already got tridents. Sure if they got severe different stats and suck on the live server I can still buy a lance and a fury. But if they're op you put your money on the wrong horse and are stuck with it BIGTIME. You get the point? It's clear you have an opinion that you would feel threatened to change and no amount of calm, sensible explanation will convince you to be a bit more open-minded. You're talking about a lot of fear for the new meta, and that's a powerful blinder. That's ok, I'm not worried. I genuinely hope you enjoy the wait. Good luck to you. www.jamesaltucher.com/2013/12/how-to-become-a-jedi-knight/Incidentally, just FYI: I don't know what your problem is with the week (...let alone the other points you just rejected without explanation). And Kang Daes are a fantastic counter to Tridents. |
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Post by jaeranger on Aug 2, 2017 15:45:06 GMT -5
Can I make a recommendation? Don't. I figured I'd write something that I could link both now and in he future when I see people say this. I've been seeing this sentiment over and over in thread after thread: "I'm saving my Ag/Au/WSP/IC for X weapon/bot that will come out someday......." Again, I implore you: please don't. Here's the deal: when it comes out you're going to be sorely disappointed. See, when it comes out and you grab it on day 1 it's going to be useless on your bot until it's upgraded. So you'll pour your silver in, set the alarm on your phone, and play some rounds to build up more Ag. In those rounds you'll see whales who not only dropped cash to buy the toy in your storage, but also ponied up the shiny gold to upgrade it right away. And boy howdy, that new toy is going to be as glorious as you hoped and you'll watch it melt ancilots, furies, and stalkers in stealth. It'll single-handedly deal a million damage and get 15 captures per round. The whole time you'll be crushed under its mighty magnificence and yearn for that distant day a week from now when you can use yours. ...until finally, the day will come. For days you'll have seen more and more of them on the field and finally, at long last, yours will be among them. So you throw it in your hangar and hit at "Start Battle" button and waltz onto the field with excitement. ...where you promptly get crushed repeatedly. The new toy seems more like a liability than an asset. You'll wonder what's wrong, lose another round or two (one of which where at least one teammate has your toy in every slot of their hangar). At which point you'll take to the forums here to rant. "That shiny new toy is suxxorz! Pix can [censored] my [redacted]!!1!one! War Robots sux and I'm done with this game!!eleven!!! See, while you were upgrading, we sat around figuring out how to avoid being crushed by the object of your desire. So by the time you pull it out we're not soft targets anymore. The folks who got to roll over us were the whales who dropped tons of cash. You, on the other hand, are like most of us and didn't drop $100 on Au on Day 1. You're not a whale (or you wouldn't be saving up) and you missed the crest of the wave. Now, sure, if you watch the meta carefully, pay attention in the forums, and practice hard, and tweak your technique and your hangar you can figure out the sweet spot for that toy. Hopefully it's a play style you actually enjoy and maybe even resembles the fantasies you had imagined. ...but there's another way that will *probably* help you have a lot more fun. Stop saving. You already know what would be interesting to try in your hangar *right now.* (And, frankly, if you don't then we're totally able to help you figure that out!) Buy the existing bot or weapon that will work well with your play style and help advance your game. Spend the time NOW to upgrade it and learn to master its use on the field. With any luck it'll actually pay for itself in higher win rates and gold gains by the time the shiny toy you dreamed of comes out. (Let's face it: we have NO IDEA when it'll *actually* arrive.) ....but something even better will happen. When that new toy drops you'll be a stronger player with a stronger hangar that you're even more excited about than you would have been. You won't get rolled as easily by those whales and you'll be at the leading edge of the curve of people that learns how to beat that toy you secretly hoped would be the pay-to-win key to domination. You'll have more fun post-release and you won't have to deal with an agonizing wait or disappointment. And back here on the forums we'll be relying on your experience to help us learn how to beat those stinkin' Reds with hangars full of your favorite toy. In the end, you might still buy that toy. ....but you'll also be forewarned in case it's a Jesse or Butch or gekko. So for now, put it on a "read forum posts with news about it" list, but please, don't save for it. Or at least, don't save for it *yet.* Buy one of the other cool things that will help you play better right now and when that cool new thing comes out I'll stand shoulder to really-high-hip with you (I drive a lot of Boas; no shoulders.) as we crush the Red whales that have that coveted object you want so badly. Amazing post! i learned this from experience, first i was saving for aphids when i buy i had the chance to level them up to leve 7 before the nerft the recieved... guess what= still have those aphids at level 7 cuz i started upgrading tridents and saving for fury... when i got the fury and tridents at level 8 the ancile got a buff, so my fury trident (level 8) wasnt able to break shields... guess what= i left the tridents at level 8 cuz it was time to upgrade the lancelot and get the ancile for him... after some weeks i got the lancelot at level 9, tarans level 9 and ancile level 9 and pins and tulumbas are now breaking my shield 500 meters away from me... after that i said ?firetruck? it, everytime i was able to get the new meta build it was too late... rigth now iam just upgrading what i havent use before and i dont care about new bots and weapons there is always a counter to them... and they will get nerfted anyways lol, i have gone through the same thing. playing for little over 6 months now, my weapons are mostly lvl 8, because of this chasing around. PIX nurf and buff against me. it takes over a week to lvl to 10, a good lvl to deal good damage. but by the time you get to lvl 8 PIX deciced they hate you and they nerf what your lvling up and buff something that you have at lvl5. so you again change your hanger, then lvl8 hits and PIX does it again. with me it was aphids, then plasma, then rockets, now since i have mostly lvl8 weapons minus snipers, i will get my zeus carnage to lvl 10, then upgrade my plasma. my Galahad is at lvl8, will take him to lvl 10 first, before zeus, very capable bot right now. |
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Post by T34 on Aug 2, 2017 19:52:01 GMT -5
I see your point but tend to think that via a gold price they could generate more income. also they want these bots out there as per the summer roadmap statements. One would think, but the Wild Bunch is a perfect example to the contrary. The Tempest is moving that way too. As far as/their roadmap, they are not dependable, accurate, and cannot be counted on. Valid points and the matters you've raised do bug me TBH. I will take what pixo says at face value at this stage. I haven't been around for long enough but as far as I know the WWB were not released to challenge the meta. the tempest is a dud (needs a serious buff). I stopped upgrading them. if the dashes follow in the WWB/Tempest footsteps than there will be very limited change. It sort of doesn't make much sense and would be disappointing. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 21:02:46 GMT -5
I've gotten used Rog disappointment in this game.
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Post by zombiecyborg on Aug 2, 2017 21:11:55 GMT -5
Fair points but you work on the premise that gold is the limiting factor and it ain't, it's silver. Dont know when exactly that happens but after six or seven months of casual play, most pilots will have amassed a fair amount of gold, enough for a few toys anyways, IMHO.
Currently, I am saving, why? Because the korean bots have something most War Robots dont currently have....they will require skill to use them fully and I am hoping these bots will get me to the next level if I practice and get better with them,
Where I do agree free with you is to not CHASE the current meta and have fun. I own zero anciles and zero Lancelots and guess what....doing pretty darn good and enjoying myself.
Great topic.
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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 2, 2017 21:38:11 GMT -5
Currently, I am saving, why? Because the korean bots have something most War Robots dont currently have....they will require skill to use them fully and I am hoping these bots will get me to the next level if I practice and get better with them. Great topic. Sure! Note that you, too, are well into the end-game phase of the game. You have an inventory that is thorough and already has the basics that every pilot should have to work from, as well as extras of the equipment that fits your play style best. Anyone who's been playing and active in the forums for over a year doesn't need this advice, they just need to be able to *give* the advice to others. So for my part, I just made a thread that I (or others) could link for newer folks every time instead of retyping. |
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Post by ΒΣRΖΣRKΛ²³ on Aug 2, 2017 23:06:23 GMT -5
A. One week? What's the deal? B. No. C. No. D. YOU chase the meta in panic!! After you mech out so fast with your 5 rhinos you spent all you money on against my new and shiny britbots. Or your still run your kang dae Natasha when i already got tridents. Sure if they got severe different stats and suck on the live server I can still buy a lance and a fury. But if they're op you put your money on the wrong horse and are stuck with it BIGTIME. You get the point? It's clear you have an opinion that you would feel threatened to change and no amount of calm, sensible explanation will convince you to be a bit more open-minded. You're talking about a lot of fear for the new meta, and that's a powerful blinder. That's ok, I'm not worried. I genuinely hope you enjoy the wait. Good luck to you. www.jamesaltucher.com/2013/12/how-to-become-a-jedi-knight/Incidentally, just FYI: I don't know what your problem is with the week (...let alone the other points you just rejected without explanation). And Kang Daes are a fantastic counter to Tridents. Step down from your high horse already, This amount of arrogance is is insulting. This thread is bad advice. Plain and simple. Its not reasonable to follow it in any stage of the game. |
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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 2, 2017 23:40:05 GMT -5
Step down from your high horse already, This amount of arrogance is is insulting. This thread is bad advice. Plain and simple. Its not reasonable to follow it in any stage of the game. You're probably right. That's why it has so many likes and supportive posts. Good luck with the path that makes you happy. |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Aug 3, 2017 4:24:13 GMT -5
Lotta good discussion on this point!
My .02
Playing a year
Master II
The recent release strategy on new bots / weapons have not been (Meta changers), they are to rare on the battlefield to count. Yes, those select few that will drop big $$$, but not enough to change the meta. Look at WW bots - Doc & Butch are great bots, but even in Master +, they do NOT rule the battlefield. The $$$ spent will predictably be on some event currency! That means saving Au now most likely will NOT give you the ability to purchase the new bots & weapons.
Updates - to current bots & weapons are [Meta Changers], they effect the masses and with just the push of the 'update' button. It happened with several updates - Aphids buff & nerf, 2.8ish with rebalabnce of HP on many bots, 2.9 and rockets. Those are the meta changers.
If they do happen to charge straight Au, Great, Awesome, about time!! But I dont think so. I think they would also need to make WW & Tempest available for Au as well, or the market for them would cease.
My current strategy for upgrades:
1) figure out what you want - bot & weapons
2) get weapons & level till useable
3) purchase bot & have Ag available to level
If I dont have the resources, then I wait till I do.
You can always put weapons on other bots, doesn't work otherway around
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Post by zombiecyborg on Aug 3, 2017 6:32:45 GMT -5
Point three to have silver ready is a very very good strategy. Nothing worse than having to grind to level up that shiny new bot you are wanting to play.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Aug 8, 2017 4:26:29 GMT -5
The simple way to not have to think about all this stuff, is to set aside some
money each month to put into your War Robots hobby. Sometimes people talk as if people are idiots for spending real money on this hobby. Why? To me, it's no different from spending on other hobbies, food, movies, and so on. I spend a lot of time each day with this hobby, so I have spent money to enjoy it more by getting bots and weapons I want and speeding up their levels. I do this now, and when Dash and other things appear I will do some of that to, it looks great. Even more fulfilling than that has been to help others hangars improve through gifting Au. By sacrificing certain other enjoyments in life, you can have more to spend to enjoy this hobby. Is it not worth it to improve an enjoyable experience, one that you spend so much time doing!?!
Even if I did ftp, I wouldn't take your advice if I had saved up Au and was excited for Dash bots.
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