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Post by Insane Demon on May 18, 2017 20:38:35 GMT -5
By "no longer has those particular Mecha/Weapons", do you mean they sold their best stuff? Who does that? Lmao. That would be on them. They'll just lose until they upgrade whatever they have. Then a Player who has Mecha/Weapons viable in Silver League would be placed in Gold League and effectively" Seal Clubbed." That may be a deterrent for someone not to play, as this is the very reason why the outcry to begin with. It could potentially spread "Seal Clubbing" across all Leagues. I maintain the idea of a current accounting of Mecha/Weapons for League placement. It's not viable to silver league if you're always the strongest player on your Silver league teams. You belong in a higher league at the bottom until you upgrade your ?poo-poo? and learn how to play better. I get it... players would rather be at the top of a lower league than at the bottom of a higher league, but that's what upgrades are for... to move you to the top of a higher league, not to help you remain the top pilot in a lower league.
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Post by Firebeard on May 18, 2017 20:49:46 GMT -5
Then a Player who has Mecha/Weapons viable in Silver League would be placed in Gold League and effectively" Seal Clubbed." That may be a deterrent for someone not to play, as this is the very reason why the outcry to begin with. It could potentially spread "Seal Clubbing" across all Leagues. I maintain the idea of a current accounting of Mecha/Weapons for League placement. It's not viable to silver league if you're always the strongest player on your Silver league teams. You belong in a higher league at the bottom until you upgrade your ?poo-poo? and learn how to play better. I get it... players would rather be at the top of a lower league than at the bottom of a higher league, but that's what upgrades are for... to move you to the top of a higher league, not to help you remain the top pilot in a lower league. First, I would like to clear up that, I agree with relegating Players to their appropriate Leagues. How this is done, is the debate. To keep a Player in a League that is duly suited to their Mecha/Weapons is paramount. By accounting a current Mecha/Weapon percentage, across a Players "entire hangar," not just their forward hangar and applying that against a League(s) average, we can safely place Players appropriately. A Player could be Locked into a League because their Mecha/Weapon percentile demands they be placed there. So, your suggestion is workable it needs iron clad data points to do so.
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Post by Insane Demon on May 18, 2017 21:16:37 GMT -5
It's not viable to silver league if you're always the strongest player on your Silver league teams. You belong in a higher league at the bottom until you upgrade your ?poo-poo? and learn how to play better. I get it... players would rather be at the top of a lower league than at the bottom of a higher league, but that's what upgrades are for... to move you to the top of a higher league, not to help you remain the top pilot in a lower league. First, I would like to clear up that, I agree with relegating Players to their appropriate Leagues. How this is done, is the debate. To keep a Player in a League that is duly suited to their Mecha/Weapons is paramount. By accounting a current Mecha/Weapon percentage and applying that against a League(s) average, we can safely place Players appropriately. A Player could be Locked into a League because their Mecha/Weapon percentile demands they be placed there. So, your suggestion is workable it needs iron clad data points to do so. If you received the gold reward for entering a higher league, then that should be the lowest league you can play in. Players who have entered Silver shouldn't be in Bronze. Players who have entered Gold shouldn't be in Silver/Bronze. Players who have entered Diamond shouldn't be in Gold/Silver/Bronze. You get me? Maybe players should actually lose gold if they "tank".
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Post by 3castle on May 18, 2017 21:45:37 GMT -5
i liked old mm way better
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Post by Insane Demon on May 18, 2017 21:49:02 GMT -5
i liked old mm way better Based on hangars? How exactly did that bull「dookie」 work? People using level 1 crap would be matched with people using level 1 crap? Why would someone who has been playing for months/years use level 1 crap?
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Post by 3castle on May 18, 2017 22:17:00 GMT -5
i liked old mm way better Based on hangars? How exactly did that ?Cow Chips? work? People using level 1 crap would be matched with people using level 1 crap? Why would someone who has been playing for months/years use level 1 crap? at least u dont have to see these cowards tanking, not playing the objectives. new mm gave me 40% War Robots. i dropped so much recently, and im seeing lvl 10/11 bots, while im using 7/8
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Post by Insane Demon on May 18, 2017 22:35:34 GMT -5
Based on hangars? How exactly did that ?Cow Chips? work? People using level 1 crap would be matched with people using level 1 crap? Why would someone who has been playing for months/years use level 1 crap? at least u dont have to see these cowards tanking, not playing the objectives. new mm gave me 40% War Robots. i dropped so much recently, and im seeing lvl 10/11 bots, while im using 7/8 There are tankers in the Expert league (if you're still in that league)? Lmao... damn. And why are you using level 7/8 crap if you're an Expert? That's on you, not other players.
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Post by drake1588 on May 18, 2017 22:55:36 GMT -5
I still can't figure out why they haven't implemented weapon handicapping in squads... It's a simple solution. Just average bot levels across the squad, distribute points evenly left to right in each hangar, same with weapons. Temporary status only while in that battle - things like this have been done for a decade I'm other games.
Or implemented tournaments with every bot/weapon at lvl 8 like the test server. That one makes more sense for not existing since it's be much more difficult to program.
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Post by War Child on May 18, 2017 23:13:20 GMT -5
Insane Demon,you're idea will only add more fuel to the flame.Why?because it will give not only the old players but also to newer players the incentive to tank.I won't tell you how it will happen/work,because it seems you didn't quite grasp the major flaws and consequences that system will bring upon the player base.
But I'll give you a hint:it won't give many people the incentive to rise to higher leagues.
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Post by Insane Demon on May 18, 2017 23:18:53 GMT -5
Insane Demon,you're idea will only add more fuel to the flame.Why?because it will give not only the old players but also to newer players the incentive to tank.I won't tell you how it will happen/work,because it seems you didn't quite grasp the major flaws and consequences that system will bring upon the player base. But I'll give you a hint:it won't give many people the incentive to rise to higher leagues. My whole point is to keep players in the highest league they've reached without going back down to lower leagues if they tank. I'm personally in no rush to leave the Silver league, but as I'm upgrading my weapons, I'm noticing I'm usually in the top 3 damage dealers... so unless tankers are not upgrading their crap, they won't stay in one league forever unless they play-to-lose.
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Post by gravediggers on May 19, 2017 0:17:48 GMT -5
the way I see it is we have 9 major. Tiers right here . I don't think it's hard to figure out what robot should be where If you have a strong hanger then you know you should be up top somewhere. If you have a weak hanger then you should be down on the bottom somewhere and work your way up not down pretty basic stop the players from advancing down .And if you're in silver you stay in silver and work your way up to gold and then you stay in gold xcetera xcetera and if you want to farm a lower-tier then you have lower tier robots which means you have a different hanger
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Post by Insane Demon on May 19, 2017 0:23:40 GMT -5
the way I see it is we have 9 major. Tiers right here . I don't think it's hard to figure out what robot should be where If you have a strong hanger then you know you should be up top somewhere. If you have a weak hanger then you should be down on the bottom somewhere and work your way up not down pretty basic stop the players from advancing down .And if you're in silver you stay in silver and work your way up to gold and then you stay in gold xcetera xcetera and if you want to farm a lower-tier then you have lower tier robots which means you have a different hanger I was agreeing with you until you said bull?poo-poo?... "and if you want to farm a lower-tier then you have lower tier robots which means you have a different hanger" NO! There should be no "farming" in lower tiers by changing your hangar. This hangar-based system you all want so badly is ridiculous. If you want to experiment with bots you haven't upgraded high enough to win battles in your league yet, so be it. Experiment with lower level bots/weapons and be a liability to your team/clan/squad. That's on you! The system shouldn't be hangar-based so you jerks can play with lower level crap. Play with lower level crap in the leagues you belong in and get your 「multiple dookie delivery chute」 kicked.
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Post by gravediggers on May 19, 2017 0:33:19 GMT -5
Okay I meant was having another hanger with lower tiered robot so you could have a break and go down to a lower tier .And have some fun down there and have a break from the higher tier so I take out the farming part
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Post by Insane Demon on May 19, 2017 0:36:23 GMT -5
Okay I meant was having another hanger with lower tiered robot so you could have a break and go down to a lower tier .And have some fun down there and have a break from the higher tier so I take out the farming part "Have fun" at the expense of players who are in the lower leagues where they belong? NO! How can you not understand how wrong that is? It's disrespectful to the players in those leagues who are trying to get to where you have been... higher leagues. Jesus... I swear, all of you are selfish as hell.
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Post by gravediggers on May 19, 2017 0:49:00 GMT -5
Holy cow all I was saying is like I go buy a robot that's not upgraded and go play Down In The Lower tier so thats not taking advantage of anybody and if I do upgrade that new robot it won't be good for that tier .So basically that's what I was talking about a second Hangar that wasn't upgraded
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Post by Insane Demon on May 19, 2017 0:52:12 GMT -5
Holy cow all I was saying is like I go buy a robot that's not upgraded and go play Down In The Lower tier so that taking advantage of anybody and if I do upgrade that new robot it won't be good for that tier No. Are the higher leagues really so boring that you all want to "go slumming" in the lower tiers to "have fun"? YIKES! Maybe you all should stop being so "meta" and use ALL of the bots/weapons instead of just "Ancilots" and "RDB Griffs" and "Plasmahads".... make your own leagues fun instead of wanting to play in the "kiddie pool".
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Post by gravediggers on May 19, 2017 1:01:41 GMT -5
Holy cow all I was saying is like I go buy a robot that's not upgraded and go play Down In The Lower tier so that taking advantage of anybody and if I do upgrade that new robot it won't be good for that tier No. Are the higher leagues really so boring that you all want to "go slumming" in the lower tiers to "have fun"? YIKES! Maybe you all should stop being so "meta" and use ALL of the bots/weapons instead of just "Ancilots" and "RDB Griffs" and "Plasmahads".... make your own leagues fun instead of wanting to play in the "kiddie pool".
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Post by gravediggers on May 19, 2017 1:02:56 GMT -5
You're pretty rude don't choke on your smoke ta ta child
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Post by Insane Demon on May 19, 2017 1:10:26 GMT -5
You're pretty rude don't choke on your smoke ta ta child Rude? No. A bit aggressive? Sure.
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Post by procrastinatorx3 on May 19, 2017 1:16:06 GMT -5
Hanger based mm would be good if they create good level brackets.
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Post by Insane Demon on May 19, 2017 1:19:19 GMT -5
Hanger based mm would be good if they create good level brackets. What are level brackets? If you mean level 30s can't compete against level 10s, regardless of what's in the level 30s' hangars... okay. That would be a good start. I was in a battle with a level 12 player a few days ago because he was in a squad with a level 25+ player. I was level 28 or 29. That really pissed me off. That poor level 12 player didn't even do 10k damage.
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Post by procrastinatorx3 on May 19, 2017 1:27:02 GMT -5
Hanger based mm would be good if they create good level brackets. What are level brackets? If you mean level 30s can't compete against level 10s, regardless of what's in the level 30s' hangars... okay. That would be a good start. I was in a battle with a level 12 player a few days ago because he was in a squad with a level 25+ player. I was level 28 or 29. That really pissed me off. That poor level 12 player didn't even do 10k damage. Yes. Like lvl1-25 will have separate mm. Like newbie training.
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Post by Payxonic on May 19, 2017 2:35:51 GMT -5
the current mm is fine,
1.just make advancing to higher leagues attractive by raising the rewards
- Simple.
if lower leaues have the same reward compared to higher leagues but with less difficulty then people would naturally stay at the lower leagues
2. Remove yamantau (lol)
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Post by War Child on May 19, 2017 2:57:22 GMT -5
You're pretty rude don't choke on your smoke ta ta child Rude? No. A bit aggressive? Sure. A bit aggressive?HELL NO.Rude?NO.Trying to piss everyone that disagrees with your half-assed solutions/arguments and act like a 10 yr old?hell yeah
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on May 19, 2017 6:17:22 GMT -5
How about zero silver or gold below a player's top league rank?
Qualify as expert 2, for example, and the only way to earn silver or gold is to stay in expert 3 or higher.
This would allow for the occasional setback where one plays honest, but drops a league lvl now and then, but offers no reward for diving from diamond to bronze.
I know when I feel fast and run light it's harder to win and I lose a few league points. I'm still playing to win, just wanna go fast. After a bit I'll run a little heavier and league points come back. I don't let myself fall too far, and again, I always do my best with what I bring. No penalty needed.
But for those who dive for profit, Pix ought to take away any profit opportunity. As long as the incentive to tank is there, some will tank and club their way up, reaping the rewards that should only be enjoyed by honest players.
So, my suggestion is for zero silver or gold more than one league step from a players max. Diamond players get no reward below gold, Master gets no reward below expert.
Something along those lines.
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Post by blastronaut on May 19, 2017 7:06:48 GMT -5
Holy cow all I was saying is like I go buy a robot that's not upgraded and go play Down In The Lower tier so that taking advantage of anybody and if I do upgrade that new robot it won't be good for that tier ...Are the higher leagues really so boring that you all want to "go slumming" in the lower tiers to "have fun"? ... Yes. Until you face squad after squad of all Champions running only Ancilots and Trident Furies, you won't truly understand how boring it is. Until Pixonic introduces new bots/weapons or buffs/nerfs current weapons that is what the top players will use.
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Post by FRΞΞDØM☆F1GHTΞR on May 19, 2017 7:46:18 GMT -5
...Are the higher leagues really so boring that you all want to "go slumming" in the lower tiers to "have fun"? ... Yes. Until you face squad after squad of all Champions running only Ancilots and Trident Furies, you won't truly understand how boring it is. Until Pixonic introduces new bots/weapons or buffs/nerfs current weapons that is what the top players will use. Again, as someone who plays in the high leagues every day, this is not what I see. Yes, there are a lot of Lances and Furys, but there are a lot of other bots too. It's really nothing like you're describing it.
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Post by blastronaut on May 19, 2017 8:05:29 GMT -5
Yes. Until you face squad after squad of all Champions running only Ancilots and Trident Furies, you won't truly understand how boring it is. Until Pixonic introduces new bots/weapons or buffs/nerfs current weapons that is what the top players will use. Again, as someone who plays in the high leagues every day, this is not what I see. Yes, there are a lot of Lances and Furys, but there are a lot of other bots too. It's really nothing like you're describing it. You should squad up with Thunderkiss, I wasn't exaggerating.
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Post by FRΞΞDØM☆F1GHTΞR on May 19, 2017 8:41:22 GMT -5
Again, as someone who plays in the high leagues every day, this is not what I see. Yes, there are a lot of Lances and Furys, but there are a lot of other bots too. It's really nothing like you're describing it. You should squad up with Thunderkiss, I wasn't exaggerating. Thunderkiss and I play in the same league on the same OS. He sees the same things I do. Yes, you are exaggerating. You are correct that there are a lot of Lances and Furys in the top leagues. That should go without saying; they are both very efficient at what they do. But I also see a lot of Galahads, Carnages, Rhinos, Gareths, Pattons, Stalkers, Rogs, Griffins, Leos, etc. My point is this: your perception is based on limited experience. You're essentially a tourist in the normal queue, whereas I live there.
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Post by Insane Demon on May 19, 2017 8:46:39 GMT -5
...Are the higher leagues really so boring that you all want to "go slumming" in the lower tiers to "have fun"? ... Yes. Until you face squad after squad of all Champions running only Ancilots and Trident Furies, you won't truly understand how boring it is. Until Pixonic introduces new bots/weapons or buffs/nerfs current weapons that is what the top players will use. Blaming Pixonic for how players play... lol Edit: Is the #1 Legend the same for everyone or are their different legends on each server? Jekyll & Mr. Hyde uses 3 Gareths, 1 Galahad, and 1 Rhino.
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