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Post by 079 on Nov 7, 2022 22:40:23 GMT -5
It’s been a while since I ran Typhon. Do Venom have enough scatter to hit Loki from the lower two slots? Speaking from experience, I do think the lower mounts can hit Loki without Quantum Radar. But it’s really close, and you gotta aim for the center of the bot since the middle of it is the highest. It also doesn’t help that Lokis never sit still!
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Nov 7, 2022 23:33:53 GMT -5
It’s been a while since I ran Typhon. Do Venom have enough scatter to hit Loki from the lower two slots? I’m happy to test with you.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Nov 18, 2022 11:09:21 GMT -5
Two things
A: Loki is kind of an Angler counter. Not the best. Uses Whiteout drone as well.
B: Rome map this morning. I dropped Loki first and made a beeline for city which I turned blue and I held it ALL match. It was against a clan trio. FTW. My score was CRAP at the end. 828 k damage and 2 beacons. All the damage was with the whiteout drone. BUT on multiple occasions I had reds "drop by to say hi." Sometimes one, sometimes two. Tying up TWO reds on my blue beacon is definitely a tactical win.
Loki as first drop is going to be quite interesting.... again. I'll continue to report back but this is a hard counter to Mars, Seraph, even sorta Skyros since they have a hard time pushing me off.
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on Nov 18, 2022 16:14:42 GMT -5
Speaking of Angler counter Oliver Kloesov, my Fenrir handles them well IF I can get them in a 1Vs.1 AND they don't use jump unit to keep up. Thing is a good number are using jump unit and idiot shields for when NOT cloaked. Speed / Range are the 2 counters I find work best!
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Nov 19, 2022 9:57:58 GMT -5
This morning? Wave after wave of Seraph that couldn’t take beacons from me. 2 x Factory, Moon, and Dreadnought.
They just kinda shrug, now what? Holding a blue beacon deep in red territory is such an FU. An unsung hero effort as i’m often in 5th or 6th place in the standings. BUT I do enjoy a win and the FU is the cherry on top.
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Post by dinnerplain on Nov 20, 2022 10:16:19 GMT -5
This morning? Wave after wave of Seraph that couldn’t take beacons from me. 2 x Factory, Moon, and Dreadnought. They just kinda shrug, now what? Holding a blue beacon deep in red territory is such an FU. An unsung hero effort as i’m often in 5th or 6th place in the standings. BUT I do enjoy a win and the FU is the cherry on top. Does this mean they've fixed the Seraph bug of it being able to strike stealth mode things? What about through building?
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Nov 20, 2022 10:22:57 GMT -5
dinnerplain. If another blue is near you the Seraph can hit Loki with it’s ability but not main weapons. It’s usually not enough to worry about. The Seraph can still sometimes use it’s ability through walls.
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Post by dinnerplain on Nov 20, 2022 11:02:43 GMT -5
dinnerplain . If another blue is near you the Seraph can hit Loki with it’s ability but not main weapons. It’s usually not enough to worry about. The Seraph can still sometimes use it’s ability through walls. It can be lonely playing Loki.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Nov 20, 2022 23:09:06 GMT -5
dinnerplain . Not so fast! This weekend I was holding down the Dam beacon on Springfield and I had TWO Loki’s trying to take me out. Not even close to a worry.
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Post by >^\}VULTURE{/^< on Dec 3, 2022 8:42:43 GMT -5
Oh Oliver Kloesov! I'm coming for THE PRECIOUS!!! Yes, yes...I finally have the precious!!! ![](https://i.imgur.com/YQFY4sL.jpg)
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 3, 2023 10:43:42 GMT -5
New Year Update!
So I was getting a little frustrated with my win rate. The unreliably glorious Fafnir is out and the Loki is in.
Full disclosure: This is STILL an uber maxed legendary Loki with Trixie with 2 x RA and an Immune Amplifier thingy. Running Sonics but I shoot with them rarely. Whiteout drone.
Super counter to Spears. They can hit me but they have to grind me down and that takes quite a while. If I keep juking around on a blue beacon their hit rate goes down substantially.
Very viab1e counter/PitA to Angler. With Trixie/Dodger skill I have AH coming out the wazoo. When Angler hits ability, I hit AH. I've done this over-and-over and the beacon stays blue or I even take the beacon from the Angler because he phase shifts. Lately I've had multiple games where I've been on the enemy HB (and it's blue) and I get swarmed by all manner of bots and Titans and they basically can't do dookie. This build HOLDS beacons. Whiteout helps against the Angler as well.
"But Ollie you still die so it's a bad build!" For the most part ALL bots die so I'm just trying to maximize the impact of my bots. Loki has great impact and I get to play the "Remastered for 2023" version of the Benny Hill theme in my headphones. Happiness.
When Purple Panty Shield drone chips are thrown out, the Loki (and Quantum Radar modules) are definitely coming back.
For now Loki is back as my first drop: No regrets, no effs given. Lol.
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Post by Poopface on Jan 3, 2023 13:25:58 GMT -5
New Year Update! So I was getting a little frustrated with my win rate. The unreliably glorious Fafnir is out and the Loki is in. Full disclosure: This is STILL an uber maxed legendary Loki with Trixie with 2 x RA and an Immune Amplifier thingy. Running Sonics but I shoot with them rarely. Whiteout drone. Super counter to Spears. They can hit me but they have to grind me down and that takes quite a while. If I keep juking around on a blue beacon their hit rate goes down substantially. Very viab1e counter/PitA to Angler. With Trixie/Dodger skill I have AH coming out the wazoo. When Angler hits ability, I hit AH. I've done this over-and-over and the beacon stays blue or I even take the beacon from the Angler because he phase shifts. Lately I've had multiple games where I've been on the enemy HB (and it's blue) and I get swarmed by all manner of bots and Titans and they basically can't do dookie. This build HOLDS beacons. Whiteout helps against the Angler as well. "But Ollie you still die so it's a bad build!" For the most part ALL bots die so I'm just trying to maximize the impact of my bots. Loki has great impact and I get to play the "Remastered for 2023" version of the Benny Hill them in my headphones. Happiness. When Purple Panty Shield drone chips are thrown out, the Loki (and Quantum Radar modules) are definitely coming back. For now Loki is back as my first drop: No regrets, no effs given. Lol. Welcome to the party! Currently running 2 Lokis in my hanger and having fun with them.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 3, 2023 13:35:26 GMT -5
New Year Update! So I was getting a little frustrated with my win rate. The unreliably glorious Fafnir is out and the Loki is in. Full disclosure: This is STILL an uber maxed legendary Loki with Trixie with 2 x RA and an Immune Amplifier thingy. Running Sonics but I shoot with them rarely. Whiteout drone. Super counter to Spears. They can hit me but they have to grind me down and that takes quite a while. If I keep juking around on a blue beacon their hit rate goes down substantially. Very viab1e counter/PitA to Angler. With Trixie/Dodger skill I have AH coming out the wazoo. When Angler hits ability, I hit AH. I've done this over-and-over and the beacon stays blue or I even take the beacon from the Angler because he phase shifts. Lately I've had multiple games where I've been on the enemy HB (and it's blue) and I get swarmed by all manner of bots and Titans and they basically can't do dookie. This build HOLDS beacons. Whiteout helps against the Angler as well. "But Ollie you still die so it's a bad build!" For the most part ALL bots die so I'm just trying to maximize the impact of my bots. Loki has great impact and I get to play the "Remastered for 2023" version of the Benny Hill them in my headphones. Happiness. When Purple Panty Shield drone chips are thrown out, the Loki (and Quantum Radar modules) are definitely coming back. For now Loki is back as my first drop: No regrets, no effs given. Lol. Thx for update, this is great. Personally, I have found that Khepris and Mars’ frequently hit me, and that Jump Unit not only mitigates this and enables repositioning out of the LOS weapon sights, but I can cover more ground and frustrate the enemies. But I will try this other load out with Whiteout and repair and see how we do.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 3, 2023 14:18:55 GMT -5
When Angler hits ability, I hit AH. Thx for update, this is great. Personally, I have found that Khepris and Mars’ frequently hit me, and that Jump Unit not only mitigates this and enables repositioning out of the LOS weapon sights, but I can cover more ground and frustrate the enemies. But I will try this other load out with Whiteout and repair and see how we do. The above really is gospel. The flippin' Anglers are so used to stomping around the field owning everything that they lose their "composure" when a red just doesn't blow up on contact. Believe it or not I can just do the chicken dance on CB at Carrier dispensing whiteout zaps and/or holding the beacon as blue for far too long. No, not forever, but forehead slapping long. Super fun but it costs PowerCrack to stay alive. TBH one Khepri/Spear can grind me down but Mars are mostly a non-issue. When Spear gets nerfed the Loki gets buffed! It can be boring but consider going to a blue CB on Factory and just sit there and let the other FIVE teamies worry about the other TWO beacons. It can be QUITE a PitA for the reds. With the speed of the build you can pretty much be the first to most beacons and turn it blue. And when a Ball pushes you, just spin like a Wide receiver and stay on the beacon. The super-secret weapon is they can't see how healthy you are. "Surely, he's almost dead by now?!?!" Nope, I'm at half health. You're gonna have to hit harder than that!
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Post by Jeb on Jan 3, 2023 14:40:07 GMT -5
This is true. I've been seeing more Lokis and I can tell the experienced drivers because they're stupid hard to kill without Quantum Radar.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 4, 2023 1:41:26 GMT -5
Thx for update, this is great. Personally, I have found that Khepris and Marsâ frequently hit me, and that Jump Unit not only mitigates this and enables repositioning out of the LOS weapon sights, but I can cover more ground and frustrate the enemies. But I will try this other load out with Whiteout and repair and see how we do. The above really is gospel. The flippin' Anglers are so used to stomping around the field owning everything that they lose their "composure" when a red just doesn't blow up on contact. Believe it or not I can just do the chicken dance on CB at Carrier dispensing whiteout zaps and/or holding the beacon as blue for far too long. No, not forever, but forehead slapping long. Super fun but it costs PowerCrack to stay alive. TBH one Khepri/Spear can grind me down but Mars are mostly a non-issue. When Spear gets nerfed the Loki gets buffed! It can be boring but consider going to a blue CB on Factory and just sit there and let the other FIVE teamies worry about the other TWO beacons. It can be QUITE a PitA for the reds. With the speed of the build you can pretty much be the first to most beacons and turn it blue. And when a Ball pushes you, just spin like a Wide receiver and stay on the beacon. The super-secret weapon is they can't see how healthy you are. "Surely, he's almost dead by now?!?!" Nope, I'm at half health. You're gonna have to hit harder than that! Lmao, I loaded up a Trixie, 2 RA, 1 Heavy Armor Kit, and a Whiteout. Some dude in an Angler (and 4 of his team) trying to dislodge me from a beacon for 5min! The Angler was clearly confused. Seriously, every time he hit ability, I hit Advanced Repair Unit and he did nearly no damage. Dude, Trixie with maxed Dodger is the 「dookie」
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2023 5:32:52 GMT -5
i do 2 things to lokies lol
1. i have some lower height bots so can hit it (mars,scorp,skyros and so on depending on what i'm running at any given time) and usually even without then you can usually use terrain to get that correct height to kill them anyways....so i do as they are annoying.
2. i'll have a skyros ready and i'll purposely follow the loki anywhere it goes , even into enemy territory to stop it capping beacons......many a time it has annoyed them so much that they self destruct and come after me in a normal bot pmsl
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Post by BB on Jan 4, 2023 7:54:00 GMT -5
I don’t run Loki, but I appreciate a smart, creative Loki driver when I see one. As most of my bots are small and fast enough to harass and nail them, I ALWAYS appoint myself the Loki hunter. The sharp Loki driver will utilize the jump mod to perfection to bounce out of a pickle and leave me all alone and frustrated. When I see a sharp, mischievous Loki running amok in my neighborhood, the game ceases being about snagging bacon and becomes MUST KILL LOKI, even if that means I have to fight thru 3 or 4 of my donut teammates getting in my way with their big stoopid slogbots that have a 2% chance of catching it anyway.🤣
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Post by Poopface on Jan 4, 2023 9:51:14 GMT -5
As a Loki driver, I have to say that I really miss the height mismatch I used to enjoy around a year ago. There used to be a lot less mechs with guns that could hit the Loki. Far too many squatty bodies now for my tastes.
Separate question: What's the current feeling on Nitro module and Loki? I know there were feelings it wasn't worthwhile around a year ago, but is that still the case?
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 4, 2023 11:01:17 GMT -5
Separate question: What's the current feeling on Nitro module and Loki? I know there were feelings it wasn't worthwhile around a year ago, but is that still the case?
I did the math before: On Loki Nitro does around 3 km/h more speed boost than the Immune Amp. (Check yourself to be sure.) So the immune amp gives a speed/durability/eventual immunity boost AND the immune amp speed boost never goes away if you lose X amount of health... So to really answer the question, because I'm a beacon HOLDING guy the speed boost can be a waste at times. "Well I'm here, now what? I sure wish I had more health..."
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 4, 2023 11:03:59 GMT -5
i do 2 things to lokies lol 1. i have some lower height bots so can hit it (mars,scorp,skyros and so on depending on what i'm running at any given time) and usually even without then you can usually use terrain to get that correct height to kill them anyways....so i do as they are annoying. 2. i'll have a skyros ready and i'll purposely follow the loki anywhere it goes , even into enemy territory to stop it capping beacons......many a time it has annoyed them so much that they self destruct and come after me in a normal bot pmsl Yes, very valid info, and when you do this it sucks but it only happens approximately 25% of the time to me. Usually I get to make a legit impact somewhere on the map.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 4, 2023 11:16:52 GMT -5
The above really is gospel. The flippin' Anglers are so used to stomping around the field owning everything that they lose their "composure" when a red just doesn't blow up on contact. Believe it or not I can just do the chicken dance on CB at Carrier dispensing whiteout zaps and/or holding the beacon as blue for far too long. No, not forever, but forehead slapping long. Super fun but it costs PowerCrack to stay alive. Lmao, I loaded up a Trixie, 2 RA, 1 Heavy Armor Kit, and a Whiteout. Some dude in an Angler (and 4 of his team) trying to dislodge me from a beacon for 5min! The Angler was clearly confused. Seriously, every time he hit ability, I hit Advanced Repair Unit and he did nearly no damage. Dude, Trixie with maxed Dodger is the 「dookie」 2nd party validation, finally! And it's easy to do, when he goes ghosty (or the yellow circle shows up) then you hit da button. What would be nasty is for two Anglers to go tag-team on their abilities. That hasn't happened to me, yet. It probably will on CB at Carrier. Don't forget my favorite move is to sit on the red HB on Carrier (up top, not underneath. Underneath prevents you from jinking around). Most annoying eff-ewe in the game. The best is if it's blue, but even when red you will tie-up at least one red bot for a long time. If it's blue yer gonna attract a crowd. Loki will improve your win rate and trash your damage/kill rate. Unfortunately playing the beacon holding game is a different level of, "What to do?" It really is a bird-in-the-hand issue. Do you sit on a blue beacon and hold it for quite a long time or do you take a chance on turning an additional beacon blue? BUT you can easily lose both to smart reds. On the "low side" of Shenzhen I have just sat there idly knowing that if I leave there will readily be a red to take it. It takes practice and good sense to "know when to hold 'em." Threats: Quantum Radar/Quantum Sensor Vampire Titan weapons (pantagruel) Fully loaded sonics. Unloaded are pew-pew and they often miss due to my jinking. Serial Ao Juns. Single AO Juns are cake walks. Seraph ability, but not really. Usually an AH solves the problem easily Speedy bots that follow you around and prevent you from taking a beacon Spears but it takes a while. Anglers, but not really if there's only one.
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Post by Poopface on Jan 4, 2023 12:54:30 GMT -5
Separate question: What's the current feeling on Nitro module and Loki? I know there were feelings it wasn't worthwhile around a year ago, but is that still the case?
I did the math before: On Loki Nitro does around 3 km/h more speed boost than the Immune Amp. (Check yourself to be sure.) So the immune amp gives a speed/durability/eventual immunity boost AND the immune amp speed boost never goes away if you lose X amount of health... So to really answer the question, because I'm a beacon HOLDING guy the speed boost can be a waste at times. "Well I'm here, now what? I sure wish I had more health..." Hrm. I only have one Immune Amp and I wouldn't likely be putting it on a Loki (favoring Invader or Fenrir) Maybe eventually I'll get 2 more so I can have that luxury. I did some more research and found that a patch made the Nitro work until 60% health. I could see that possibly working on a first drop Loki running Armadillo so the defense stacks up. Even better if there could be a Mender health pool top off. Regarding my Loki, I'm more about behind-the-scenes harassment rather than holding bacon. Not willing to go nuts with the green stuff running Trixie. 2. i'll have a skyros ready and i'll purposely follow the loki anywhere it goes , even into enemy territory to stop it capping beacons......many a time it has annoyed them so much that they self destruct and come after me in a normal bot pmsl Yes, very valid info, and when you do this it sucks but it only happens approximately 25% of the time to me. Usually I get to make a legit impact somewhere on the map. I had a Skyros shadow me yesterday for a while. Quite effective until I was able to jump to some places he couldn't easily get to. At that point he abandoned the pursuit.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 4, 2023 13:31:47 GMT -5
Lmao, I loaded up a Trixie, 2 RA, 1 Heavy Armor Kit, and a Whiteout. Some dude in an Angler (and 4 of his team) trying to dislodge me from a beacon for 5min! The Angler was clearly confused. Seriously, every time he hit ability, I hit Advanced Repair Unit and he did nearly no damage. Dude, Trixie with maxed Dodger is the 「dookie」 2nd party validation, finally! And it's easy to do, when he goes ghosty (or the yellow circle shows up) then you hit da button. What would be nasty is for two Anglers to go tag-team on their abilities. That hasn't happened to me, yet. It probably will on CB at Carrier. Don't forget my favorite move is to sit on the red HB on Carrier (up top, not underneath. Underneath prevents you from jinking around). Most annoying eff-ewe in the game. The best is if it's blue, but even when red you will tie-up at least one red bot for a long time. If it's blue yer gonna attract a crowd. Loki will improve your win rate and trash your damage/kill rate. Unfortunately playing the beacon holding game is a different level of, "What to do?" It really is a bird-in-the-hand issue. Do you sit on a blue beacon and hold it for quite a long time or do you take a chance on turning an additional beacon blue? BUT you can easily lose both to smart reds. On the "low side" of Shenzhen I have just sat there idly knowing that if I leave there will readily be a red to take it. It takes practice and good sense to "know when to hold 'em." Threats: Quantum Radar/Quantum Sensor Vampire Titan weapons (pantagruel) Fully loaded sonics. Unloaded are pew-pew and they often miss due to my jinking. Serial Ao Juns. Single AO Juns are cake walks. Seraph ability, but not really. Usually an AH solves the problem easily Speedy bots that follow you around and prevent you from taking a beacon Spears but it takes a while. Anglers, but not really if there's only one. I dont look at personal stats, though I couldnt help notice I recently significantly beat my top damage output in a match. My main focus with Loki is fun and trolling the enemy so my team can get other work done. I will say I find it essential when running Loki, to pay attention to how often my teammates names show up as kills, and to pay attention to beacon bar. If a lit of my team is getting killed, it shows my presence in the actual fight is needed more than locking down a beacon
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 5, 2023 10:24:26 GMT -5
Update 1/5/2023
Threats:
Quantum Radar/Quantum Sensor Vampire Titan weapons (pantagruel) Fully loaded sonics. Unloaded are pew-pew and they often miss due to my jinking. Serial Ao Juns. Single AO Juns are cake walks Seraph ability, but not really. Usually an AH solves the problem easily Speedy bots that follow you around and prevent you from taking a beacon Spears but it takes a while Anglers, but not really if there's only one Any rockets especially Avalanche when you are near a wall and they can hit you with splash damage. Ouchie! Subtle hacker clans, duh
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 10:33:07 GMT -5
Update 1/5/2023 Threats: Quantum Radar/Quantum Sensor Vampire Titan weapons (pantagruel) Fully loaded sonics. Unloaded are pew-pew and they often miss due to my jinking. Serial Ao Juns. Single AO Juns are cake walks. Seraph ability, but not really. Usually an AH solves the problem easily Speedy bots that follow you around and prevent you from taking a beacon Spears but it takes a while. Anglers, but not really if there's only one. Any rockets especially Avalanche when you are near a wall and they can hit you with splash damage. Ouchie.terrain - the difference in terrain height can be costly for a loki if not careful especially from someone with lockdown weapons. bot with a low frame/height - can hit loki all the time such as mender/skyros/scorp/orochi/demeter and more.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 5, 2023 10:50:31 GMT -5
Pro tip: If a Loki owns your home beacon it is likely you will struggle to dislodge him. If so, cut your losses and try to get your 3 or 4 beacons elsewhere. The most a Loki can do is hold one beacon BUT if you add to that tactical loss by hanging out forever trying to take him out or even encouraging your buddies to join the stomp-fight you are adding to your loss.
In a pair of back to back matches against the same 5-man Asian clan:
We lost the first match on Valley because all we could manage was to hold CB, the one I was on. The blues were "inadequate" but admittedly i didn't help with damage given.
The second match was the exact opposite. Springfield. Loki to CB and then to their HB which I turned blue and held it until the end of the match. Every red that spawned dropped by to pay their respects (which held them up a little from going to other beacons) and I tied up a Bendy Typhon for around 5 minutes which did effectively nothing to me AND I tied up an Angler for 3 or 4 ability uses which basically did nothing and then he got bored and went someplace else so the Typhon and I could chat privately.
I'm not convinced but I think Loki >= Skyros. Skyros you can see his health going down so you know it's a finite task albeit an arduous one. With Loki you have no clue how healthy he is while he's stealthed.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 5, 2023 11:03:07 GMT -5
Update 1/5/2023 Threats: Quantum Radar/Quantum Sensor Vampire Titan weapons (pantagruel) Fully loaded sonics. Unloaded are pew-pew and they often miss due to my jinking. Serial Ao Juns. Single AO Juns are cake walks. Seraph ability, but not really. Usually an AH solves the problem easily Speedy bots that follow you around and prevent you from taking a beacon Spears but it takes a while. Anglers, but not really if there's only one. Any rockets especially Avalanche when you are near a wall and they can hit you with splash damage. Ouchie.terrain - the difference in terrain height can be costly for a loki if not careful especially from someone with lockdown weapons. bot with a low frame/height - can hit loki all the time such as mender/skyros/scorp/orochi/demeter and more. Full respect, but you are overselling this. Yes terrain/weapon height is mostly how you are going to take out the Loki. But it takes multiple bots hitting reliably well. Fainters at the right height will hurt, at first, and then they are a pew-pew to be dealt with. The bots you mention above are effective but they MUST have Sonics. The bigger the better. The Orochi with two heavies is scary but: A: Orochis are rare now and B: It's an Orochi, it'll die soon anyway. Bendies of any size are a certified joke against Loki. If Quantum Radar gets popular again the Loki is in trouble. And to acknowledge your correct input again, yes, Loki is NOT God mode. It can die or be countered easily. But in the War Robots rock-paper-scissors world sometimes Loki can be hella fun and really help for the win.
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Post by Poopface on Jan 5, 2023 13:55:03 GMT -5
Update 1/5/2023 Threats: Quantum Radar/Quantum Sensor Vampire Titan weapons (pantagruel) Fully loaded sonics. Unloaded are pew-pew and they often miss due to my jinking. Serial Ao Juns. Single AO Juns are cake walks Seraph ability, but not really. Usually an AH solves the problem easily Speedy bots that follow you around and prevent you from taking a beacon Spears but it takes a while Anglers, but not really if there's only one Any rockets especially Avalanche when you are near a wall and they can hit you with splash damage. Ouchie! Subtle hacker clans, duh
Add Indra Electrical Lasso -- can get hit even w/o Quantum Sensor
Also Explody Mechs (Shell, etc) can hurt like a mofo.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 5, 2023 16:18:18 GMT -5
Update:
Quantum Radar/Quantum Sensor Vampire Titan weapons (pantagruel) Fully loaded sonics. Unloaded are pew-pew and they often miss due to my jinking. Serial Ao Juns. Single AO Juns are cake walks. Seraph ability, but not really. Usually an AH solves the problem easily Speedy bots that follow you around and prevent you from taking a beacon Spears but it takes a while. Anglers, but not really if there's only one. Any rockets especially Avalanche when you are near a wall and they can hit you with splash damage. Ouchie. Terrain - the difference in terrain height can be costly for a loki if not careful especially from someone with lockdown weapons Bot with a low frame/height - can hit loki all the time such as mender/skyros/scorp/orochi/demeter and more Indra Electrical Lasso -- can get hit even w/o Quantum Sensor Explody Mechs (Shell, etc) can hurt like a mofo.
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