Wait, what? Loki?

So, out with the Behemoth/Smuta and in with the 2 x RA, AC, Trixie, Sonic, whiteout Loki.

The Behemoth was fun but it was/is hot and cold; sometimes you can really affect half of the battlefield like defending the CB bridge on castle from close to your HB and other times you need to scramble for a beacon but you’re in Mr. Slow.

Again, early days, but Seraph is rarely a problem. Trixie lets me expensively hold a blue beacon for a loooooong time.

I'd love to compare notes!


A rare underrated skill though is for Loki to HOLD a beacon.  As an early drop there is very little Quantum Radar out there and even if they can hit you with their perfect height weapons AH can solve a lot of that.

Personally, I use Lokis mid/late. I don’t go early as a general rule of thumb because of all the early Seraph drops. Unless you can get behind the Red wall and go after their home beacons, you’ll get lit up.

I've got an Experimental Loki I run on occasion. I'm with POOPFACE in that I run him mid to late in the game. Once some of the Plague Bots have thinned out and the game slows down it can be even more effective running or catching beacons.

Titan's can be HIGHLY ineffective against Loki in that they are too slow and lumbering. You can really tie them to one spot and keep them grounded. I've had particular success with camping Au Ming's sitting way back and sniping. Loki can make them REALLY think about taking to the air. I've also had good success taking down Au Ming's. You stay under them and snipe away at their bellies. As soon as they land back to cloaking. They'll either die or dump the Titan for something else... count that as a win.

I have Chester on him which helps with the healing and gives you a bit of time when you drop the cloak. Two Nitros plus Road Hog and Adamant Road Hog make him speedy. You wont rack up kills running him but annoyance factor is HIGH.

I played one today... Beacon was white and he was camping in Stealth Mode. I had an Acid Mender and I could not take him down. Was really crazy.

Here we go. From a bacon fest from earlier today.



I got a few of them with my Loki.  And for those that want Lokis to hold down bacon, here you go.  And vs a Seraph no less.



He spent a bit trying to get me to move, but I enjoyed giving him the “no way” head shake.

Current Loki build
Eradicator1

Although far from an exhaustive test I tried Octanian and Wasp drones and I give up a lot of survivability for the seemingly paltry damage output. So for now this is my drone:




Eradicator1

Go forth and make the reds tear their hair out!

If that happened it would've sounded like, " 3...2...1...  POP!"

Next time.

Hey, it’s been a hot minute since I was in this thread! I saw I had few pages worth of posts to read through to catch up on this thread after my summer hiatus, and only today did I decide to sit down and read through it, and I enjoyed it. Good to see Loki continue to have fanfare on the forum, and to give a hot take, I honestly see it as the new Strider.

Anyway, as for discussing the current “Loki meta”, I would like to advocate on several things I think are being severely overlooked. We all have our preferences no doubt, and I’m fine with that, but seeing Oliver Kloesov touting Trixie, Advanced Repir Unit, and Whiteout/Octavian/Nebula as the definitive best build is an active invitation for discussion to me. And that is because I do not run any of those three things, yet see success in games, even against Shell, Kephri, titans, and Seraph.

My Loki is currently equipped with Jump Unit, Chester (old man), and the Persephone drone. Allow me to explain the utility of all three and how they compare to the “best” build.

The thing that immediately sticks out to me is that with his claims of testing Jump Unit (“beacon grabber”) Loki versus Advanced Repair Unit (beacon holder”) Loki, Olivier seems to miss several important aspects of Jump Unit Lokis. To start, who said one had to immediately abandon beacons upon the arrival of reds? Aside from Quantum Radar/Sensor, which can be baited and seen ahead of time, and Shell/Hellburner, which are pretty rare these days, the only significant threats to Loki are Kephri and Skyros. Seraph can be deadly yes, but if you are deep in enemy territory on their beacons, they should not have any targets to use their ability on to chain to you, so their threat can also be mitigated. So, back to Kephri and Skyros, they are a threat because they can effectively chase Loki and prevent it capping any beacons, as well as shoot it without Quantum Radar, but that is where Jump Unit comes in! We all know the now-classic hang off a building to avoid enemy fire trick, so I’ll skip over that, but also, simply jumping within the confines of the beacon can prevent a lot of damage. Kephri, Skyros, Angler, and Seraph are always running Advanced Reapir Unit or Shieldbreaker, so Quantum Radar is usually a non-issue when it comes to dancing with them. Also, at least for me, not having healing to fall back on encourages more skillful play, as most beacons have elevation changes within their bounds, and well, using even the most subtle ones can prevent enemies from hitting you, further lessening the need for mega healing. It is true that you cannot sit there soak tons of damage, but if you ask me, surviving more through the bot’s characteristics rather than the crack pipe is definitely worth it. And of course, all this is only about holding beacons, and Jump Unit presents tons of opportunities to both cap and hold beacons, while Advanced Repair Unit can only hold beacons.

I don’t have a ton to say about Chester, as he is pretty straightforward. While he is not insanely vital the bot, he is still amazing. With my preference to Jump Unit, he is the obvious choice for Loki, and I should mention, the extra stealth when using weapons to burst someone is amazing! I honestly could not go back to having stealth immediately end upon activating weapons. Any big Loki fans who are not Trixie diehards should definitely look into getting him.

Last up is probably my most interesting choice, which is Persephone as my drone. I am honestly puzzled on why more people have not considered it for Loki, as if you ask me, it is an incredible match! Persephone has the Nebula-style two D chips and one F chip for excellent defense, which is just what Loki wants, the heal ability is just perfect. Loki wants to only take glancing blows from weapons as opposed to direct fire, so Persephone constantly patching it up is does wonders for its longevity, since there will be long periods of Loki not taking fire, which is when trickle healing like this truest shines. Also, while running around, you can shoot some heals to teammates, which both gives some honor and is quite satisfying. Lastly, while the B chip may arguably be worse than an A chip, I think it is great for when one wants to go on the offensive a bit, giving Loki some good bite for the brief periods it is using its weapons. While Persephone lacks the troll value of Wasp and I actually do want to try Ironhearth at some point (good defense and has build-in weapons for a middle ground between Wasp and Nebula), I think it matches Loki’s mission profile to a tee and does not get the attention it deserves.

Well, thanks for coming to my TED Talk! I don’t mean to discredit Oliver, as clearly Trixie builds work, but I gotta say, all the Trixie representation with little Chester/Jump Unit and no Persephone representation was a wrong that I had to right! I look forward to further Loki discussion!

079 - Heck yeah... Discuss. Obviously I like the Trixie-centric build but I am far from qualified to call it the best build. And you know what? I've jumped a Loki about 4 total times so, ummm yeah, not a lot of practical experience there.

I got mine!

They hit hard then Peter out.