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Post by randle613 on Mar 14, 2017 13:58:44 GMT -5
Hey guys, my son got this app last week and turns out it is pretty good and I am digging it as well. We could use some advice on what we should be aiming for in the beginning. Took me forever to figure out we could buy weapons but finally did so. Reading through some threads I know to save gold for 5th spot but really looking at what robots to have and what weapons to gear them with. Here is what we have...
Leo (6) pinata (5) nashborn (4) punisher x2 (4 and 5) Griffin (6) pin x 2 (5) molot x2 (4) Golem (4) molot (4) nashborn (4) spiral (4) Natasha (6) Nash x 2 (4) pin (5) pinata (5)
Fav in order...Griffin, Leo, Golem and Natasha. reloads on Natasha take forever, my son is 10 so we kinda just do melee style.
Thanks in advance
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Post by randle613 on Mar 14, 2017 14:07:28 GMT -5
Anyone disagree with the below? And how do we get the other weapons....I do not see them listed anywhere.
Best low level builds: Patton with 4 Pinatas Boa with Thunder/Punisher
Best average/high level builds: Leo 3 Pinatas/1 Thunder Griffin 2 Tarans/ 2 Magnuns Griffin 2 Tulumbas/2 Pins Griffin 2 Orkans/ 2 Pinatas
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on Mar 14, 2017 14:07:46 GMT -5
Hey guys, my son got this app last week and turns out it is pretty good and I am digging it as well. We could use some advice on what we should be aiming for in the beginning. Took me forever to figure out we could buy weapons but finally did so. Reading through some threads I know to save gold for 5th spot but really looking at what robots to have and what weapons to gear them with. Here is what we have... Leo (6) pinata (5) nashborn (4) punisher x2 (4 and 5) Griffin (6) pin x 2 (5) molot x2 (4) Golem (4) molot (4) nashborn (4) spiral (4) Natasha (6) Nash x 2 (4) pin (5) pinata (5) Fav in order...Griffin, Leo, Golem and Natasha. reloads on Natasha take forever, my son is 10 so we kinda just do melee style. Thanks in advance Hi randle613 , welcome to the forums. :-) I'd suggest checking out the Wiki, if you haven't already... warrobots.wikia.com/wiki/War_Robots_WikiI found it to be full of useful advice in the beginning. One important thing to consider is that there are many different combinations of weapons and robots. I'd suggest trying all the cheap, silver ones, and seeing which robot/weapons you enjoy the most. Also, don't level up your beginner robots and weapons too far as you'll probably change some of them for Gold or Workshop robots and weapons over time. Have fun, and feel free to ask questions here, after using the search function for a quick look for active threads on the subject. :-)
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 14, 2017 14:11:47 GMT -5
Cossack for the first bot to buy( you have no choice, another destrier is a disaster)
Patton is next with molots or punishers are fine save the silver for a Leo
Leo is next and kit for thunder/piñata
Followed by Griffin for molots
After that is a matter of taste as by now you should be lv 20 and earning WSP
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 14:16:00 GMT -5
Hey guys, my son got this app last week and turns out it is pretty good and I am digging it as well. We could use some advice on what we should be aiming for in the beginning. Took me forever to figure out we could buy weapons but finally did so. Reading through some threads I know to save gold for 5th spot but really looking at what robots to have and what weapons to gear them with. Here is what we have... Leo (6) pinata (5) nashborn (4) punisher x2 (4 and 5) Griffin (6) pin x 2 (5) molot x2 (4) Golem (4) molot (4) nashborn (4) spiral (4) Natasha (6) Nash x 2 (4) pin (5) pinata (5) Fav in order...Griffin, Leo, Golem and Natasha. reloads on Natasha take forever, my son is 10 so we kinda just do melee style. Thanks in advance Get: 2x Thunder Pinata Leo 1x Punisher Griffin 1x Tulumbas Pin Griffin
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Post by [NovR] Blase2k on Mar 14, 2017 14:19:46 GMT -5
And how do we get the other weapons....I do not see them listed anywhere. Are you only seeing weapons that came with the bots? If so: At the top of the weapons screen there are two tabs, "Inventory" & "Store". Seems like you are only looking in the opening default Inventory tab which shows weapons you currently own. Select the Store tab to see all those other weapons available to purchase with silver, gold and Work Shop (WS) points.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 14:30:00 GMT -5
Welcome randle613. What fun, to bond/play the game with your boy. One general bit of advice, without going into specifics on bots and weapons. You generally want to run similar weapons with similar ranges to maximize your firepower. For example, your first bot listed, Leo with Nashorn, Pinata, and Punishers: Nashorn is a snipers long range gun, best used at 800m+. Pinata is a short range killer, only can be used under 300m. A more combat effective Leo would carry all short range weapons to melee, or all long range weapons if you plan to hang back. Nashorn pairs best with Pins that have 500m range. Pinatas and Punishers pair best with Thunders, as those weapons thrive under 300m. Also, please note that while Thunder and Punisher have a 500m range, they really only become effective under 300m (or even under 200m), since at further distances their bullets spread out too far to all hit the target. Enjoy the game!
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Post by FRΞΞDØM☆F1GHTΞR on Mar 14, 2017 14:39:37 GMT -5
Welcome! You're in the right place! I can't do a better job than what's already been done by the Wiki crew: warrobots.wikia.com/wiki/Beginner%27s_Index_to_Walking_War_RobotsYou'll find that there is no "best" in this game. It's really a rock-paper-scissors kind of thing. However, some general guidelines are: -don't mix weapon ranges -upgrade your gear evenly -unlock slots first, then buy weapons, then buy robots. Disclaimer: there are at least 2 schools of thought regarding the 5th slot. Some believe you should buy an Orkan or 2 before the 5th slot. But nobody will say to buy anything before the 4th slot.
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Post by cakeordeath on Mar 14, 2017 14:47:59 GMT -5
Hey guys, my son got this app last week and turns out it is pretty good and I am digging it as well. We could use some advice on what we should be aiming for in the beginning. Took me forever to figure out we could buy weapons but finally did so. Reading through some threads I know to save gold for 5th spot but really looking at what robots to have and what weapons to gear them with. Here is what we have... Leo (6) pinata (5) nashborn (4) punisher x2 (4 and 5) Griffin (6) pin x 2 (5) molot x2 (4) Golem (4) molot (4) nashborn (4) spiral (4) Natasha (6) Nash x 2 (4) pin (5) pinata (5) Fav in order...Griffin, Leo, Golem and Natasha. reloads on Natasha take forever, my son is 10 so we kinda just do melee style. Thanks in advance All your silver heavies are perfectly serviceable chassis and you can safely invest in upgrading them. The golem will go obsolete on you much sooner because it is rather fragile. Still, it is a fun bot to play and you can make it work for you for a bit. The biggest issue is that you are packing an awful lot of longer ranged weaponry, often mixed up with short ranged stuff. Longer range weapons do less damage so your damage potential is rather anemic. My quickest piece of advice is to ditch the nashorns for thunders (except perhaps on the natasha). Remember that like punishers, they are have much shorter effective ranges than their listed theoretical range. Ideal range is <150m but 250-300m is viable. Past that and the spread of the shots is enormous so you'll tickle foes out to 500m. Likewise molots are best used under 500m but their scatter isn't as bad. Go thunder and 3x pinata or thunder and 3 x punisher on your leo. It's your toughest bot so brawl with it. With the Griffin, I'd go all punishers until you get to lvl 20 and get plasma weapons (taran/magnum). Pin/tulumbas is a viable mid-range build. Play through griffin as hit and run, rather than pure brawling. The golem can be replaced (thunder punisher boa is cheap and effective) or run as a knife fighter (thunder/punishers, perhaps with a pinata if gareths or ecu are common in your tier). A longer ranged build using 500m rockets and a trident is viable too but I don't recommend it with a single low level nashorn. Use the golem's speed to cap beacons and flank larger foes while overwhelming small ones with sheer firepower. The natasha is usually a support bot so you could go nashorn/molot with it and shoot from long range. However, at low level, sniping weapons aren't terribly effective and the relative fragility of the natasha is less of an issue (it's fragile for a heavy, but compared to the many mediums out there in low level play, it's got decent health). So, for a while, you could run a twin thunder natasha with punishers or piñatas. The raw firepower at short range is brutal in lower level play but it is a slow brawler. Later on, retool the natty as your mid-range support or sniper bot. Have fun!
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Post by randle613 on Mar 14, 2017 15:07:36 GMT -5
Thanks all...will continue to ask questions and will head over to the wiki tonight to see what I can figure out. Should have known there was a wiki...everything has a wiki now.
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Post by Shahmatt on Mar 14, 2017 23:13:17 GMT -5
Having tried the Thunder Pinata Leo I would err in favor of a longer range Nashorn Pin Leo instead.
That's because I find the Leo too slow to maneuver into and out of cover in order to effect knife fighting ranges the Thunder Pinata would be effective at. Too much time exposed at too close a range. My Leo was too vulnerable and died out pretty quick.
Better rather, imo, to use the Leo for mid-range (circa 500m). More body (in particular the centre heavy hardpoint) can be exposed with less risk. The Nashorn can be replaced with a Trident as progress is made (though I do have a lot of fun with the Nashorn at very open maps).
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Post by 88generalblue on Mar 15, 2017 0:09:19 GMT -5
Thanks all...will continue to ask questions and will head over to the wiki tonight to see what I can figure out. Should have known there was a wiki...everything has a wiki now. Somebody already posted the link to the Beginner's page in the Wiki, definitely read up on that, but also- a picture is worth a thousand words, so here are some great youtube video guys you should check out: #1- Lloyd Le-Mar www.youtube.com/channel/UCO6TkF1fwliIajiDOBlg_vA#2- Stew Pendous #3- Adrian Chong www.youtube.com/channel/UCk_jiByxmYqfZ11tYl0OCOwThey can teach you everything you need to know, and its actually lots of fun to watch. Cheers!
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Post by BLYTHE on Mar 15, 2017 1:07:11 GMT -5
Welcome randle613! Bear in mind many of the bots you use in lower levels will likely not be useable later as you progress, such as golem, vityaz, natasha, etc. Refer to this thread: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/3630/best-worst-bots-tt-useabilityIn terms of weapons you'll likely take these to the top: magnums, orkans, thunders, tarans, pinatas, tridents, aphids, pins, tulumbas. The rest aren't really useable (of course this may change in the future). I bought a lot of bots and weapons (gekko, hydra, trebuchet) that I no longer use in high tier, but I don't regret buying them as they were part of the experience. So have fun with your son and buy whatever you guys want and experiment with it—that was the fun part when I started with my son (who was also 10 when we started War Robots).
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 15, 2017 1:16:23 GMT -5
Hey guys, my son got this app last week and turns out it is pretty good and I am digging it as well. We could use some advice on what we should be aiming for in the beginning. Took me forever to figure out we could buy weapons but finally did so. Reading through some threads I know to save gold for 5th spot but really looking at what robots to have and what weapons to gear them with. Here is what we have... Leo (6) pinata (5) nashborn (4) punisher x2 (4 and 5) Griffin (6) pin x 2 (5) molot x2 (4) Golem (4) molot (4) nashborn (4) spiral (4) Natasha (6) Nash x 2 (4) pin (5) pinata (5) Fav in order...Griffin, Leo, Golem and Natasha. reloads on Natasha take forever, my son is 10 so we kinda just do melee style. Thanks in advance I got my 9 year old daughter to start playing as well, she was even on this last weekend's test server and has been in a couple vids! The best advice has been given by our members already, they will be your best resource. If you would like something you and your son can watch together I have some tutorials you might find helpful, Good hunting! www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_ZOMvYRPc9dWtAtx4Pbl_SGV0INpYHIn
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 15, 2017 1:19:03 GMT -5
Thanks all...will continue to ask questions and will head over to the wiki tonight to see what I can figure out. Should have known there was a wiki...everything has a wiki now. Somebody already posted the link to the Beginner's page in the Wiki, definitely read up on that, but also- a picture is worth a thousand words, so here are some great youtube video guys you should check out: #1- Lloyd Le-Mar www.youtube.com/channel/UCO6TkF1fwliIajiDOBlg_vA#2- Stew Pendous #3- Adrian Chong www.youtube.com/channel/UCk_jiByxmYqfZ11tYl0OCOwThey can teach you everything you need to know, and its actually lots of fun to watch. Cheers! Adding Phoenix to that list
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Post by randle613 on Mar 15, 2017 15:24:55 GMT -5
Really good advice all. Will watch vids later tonight. Found the store for weapons and replaced all the long range with cannons. We consistently score top 2 and I can usually do 250k or more in damage depending on the team, sometimes ya just get slaughtered, not much you can do about that. Once we get golem replaced and decent weapons on everyone we will start using teh silver for that weird currency correct? I like Leo as a 4th instead of Golem but I will let my son pick who he wants. Here is what we have so far.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 15, 2017 16:01:17 GMT -5
Looks like y'all are already getting the hang of it... nice stats for that hangar!
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Post by randle613 on Mar 15, 2017 16:35:13 GMT -5
For weapons...do we want exact same range or is 300 and 500 cool for example?
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 15, 2017 16:40:59 GMT -5
Really good advice all. Will watch vids later tonight. Found the store for weapons and replaced all the long range with cannons. We consistently score top 2 and I can usually do 250k or more in damage depending on the team, sometimes ya just get slaughtered, not much you can do about that. Once we get golem replaced and decent weapons on everyone we will start using teh silver for that weird currency correct? I like Leo as a 4th instead of Golem but I will let my son pick who he wants. Here is what we have so far. Don't let the range description on the Thunder mislead you. Anything over 200m and the spread of the buckshot will miss a lot and you won't do much damage. Your Natasha with Thunders and Pinata's is the right idea....Your Leo needs to have the Pin swapped for another Punisher or Pinata for an under 300m setup or swap the two punishers for 2 more pins and single fire the thunder whenever you are more than 200m away. Stay around 360-400M, you will do less damage with this build but it is good for keeping bad guys suppressed behind cover. The best option for you imo would be to put the 2 punishers on the Nat and run 3 Pinatas on the Leo. A Thunder Pinata Leo is a nasty customer and is worth leveling as it will remain viable very late into the game. Trade the Molot MK2's on your Griffin for a pair of Tulumbas and you have a certified top tier midrange (RDB) The jump combined with ninja missile salvos works great on larger maps and is still solid on smaller ones. It would be a good idea to replace the Golem with another Griffin and put your 2 Molot MKII's there with another 2 Molots. That will give you another solid TT viable silver build you can use late into the game. In the meantime swap that spiral out for a Molot that you can reuse on a Griffin later (see below). Your DPS will be better because your weapons will have the same aiming and reload mechanics. This would allow you to reuse most of what you have already, needing only a pair of Tulumbus and a single Molot until you have enough for that second Griffin and Molot. You will then have 3 bots that are worth using for a very long time. Leo is your Melee fighter, between the 2 Griffins you have long-mid range options that are still dangerous up close and you can focus on your next slot. At some point, you will want to either replace the Natasha or move her to mid or long range. When you do that if you find you are lacking brawlers change your least favorite Griffin over to a Plasma (Mags/Tarans) when you have the WSP.
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Post by randle613 on Mar 15, 2017 17:28:57 GMT -5
Would you grab a 2nd Leo or a 2nd Griffin to replace the Golem?
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 15, 2017 17:55:04 GMT -5
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Post by randle613 on Mar 15, 2017 18:10:52 GMT -5
Thanks kalyfaa...good read. Seems like most games there is no definitive meta.
Curious...how much different is gameplay at higher levels vs where we are at bronze league. PLayers try the snipe or ambush style but basically the smarter players with decent bots always score highest.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 15, 2017 18:17:57 GMT -5
Would you grab a 2nd Leo or a 2nd Griffin to replace the Golem? 2nd Griffin..... Leo is a good placeholder in a high-level hanger while you optimize your other slots. You will eventually replace it, but probably last. Griffins are currently among the top platforms for close or mid range and are effective with Rockets, Plasma or Guns. It's not uncommon to see 2 Griffins in a Legend League hanger. You can leave the Leo as it is until you get your hands on a fancy bot to replace it with and eventually get a pair of Tridents & Pins to put on that Natasha or put a Trident or Zues on the Leo with pins or Molots and replace the Nat with something fancy. Go for a Zeus or Trident Nat if you plan on getting a Carnage or Fury down the road. Either way, once you have moved one of those behemoths out to mid range change either the Molot or Rocket Griffin from mid range to close range and set it up as either a Plasma (PDB) or Pinata/Orkan (DB). Watching videos from any of the above channels should help you decide what type of Robots look like you would enjoy playing so you can plan ahead and spend your resources wisely Also, I wish you luck in the next special event (hopefully Easter) when you are just starting out you don't really need to buy any coins to benefit. Just play a lot and cash your rewards in one at a time (If they give the option of 10/100/1000 "coin" chests like last time go for the 100's). Anything you cannot make use of just sell for silver and hopefully you can score a premium weapon or bot as well! I have a Ancilot (Lancelot with an Ancile) that I won during the new year event so it does happen!
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Post by randle613 on Mar 15, 2017 18:22:53 GMT -5
Was going to ask about that as well. Currently playing SWGOH and they are event heavy. Good to hear we can get some free stuff here too.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 15, 2017 18:25:39 GMT -5
Thanks kalyfaa...good read. Seems like most games there is no definitive meta. Curious...how much different is gameplay at higher levels vs where we are at bronze league. PLayers try the snipe or ambush style but basically the smarter players with decent bots always score highest. The higher you go you will find that at the moment the midrange (Pins, tulus, Tridents, Zeus) influences matches more than anything else. You will want to have at least 1 or 2 (no more) mid to long range bots, and some quicker tougher bots for closer maps and grabbing/defending beacons. I love te Boa as much as the next guy, however, you will eventually swap it out for a better Bot when you reach higher levels, a Grifin or two is solid at any level. I would replace the golem with a Griff ASAP on priority and don't bother replacing the Leo or Natasha unless it's for something that is a keeper (Carnage,Fury,Lancelot,Gallahad, Gareth).
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Post by kalyfaa on Mar 16, 2017 2:13:22 GMT -5
Thanks kalyfaa...good read. Seems like most games there is no definitive meta. Curious...how much different is gameplay at higher levels vs where we are at bronze league. PLayers try the snipe or ambush style but basically the smarter players with decent bots always score highest. u r welcome ...
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Post by randle613 on Mar 16, 2017 11:57:50 GMT -5
Took the advice and here is the updated hangar. Griffin with the tulu and pins is not as much fun but does solid damage...more of a slash and run kinda mech. May get another Leo for when we feel like smashing some stuff.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 17, 2017 15:08:24 GMT -5
Took the advice and here is the updated hangar. Griffin with the tulu and pins is not as much fun but does solid damage...more of a slash and run kinda mech. May get another Leo for when we feel like smashing some stuff. When you can save up the workshop points put 2 mags and tarans on that tulumbus griffin I get the impression you would enjoy that more. You seem to like the Leo so here are your options before you have access to WSP/GOLD to spend on gearing one: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/3642/new-pilot-tutorial-genuine-silver
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 16:04:25 GMT -5
My advice - don't invest your money (and maybe not even your time) in the game in its current form. Come back when Pix actually gets their 「dookie」 together.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 17, 2017 16:11:11 GMT -5
My advice - don't invest your money (and maybe not even your time) in the game in its current form. Come back when Pix actually gets their ?poo-poo? together. If everyone did that there would be no game to come back to...
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