Best to worst bots by TT useability

Mar 13, 2017 21:37:57 GMT -5 @darkangel12s said:

Mar 13, 2017 21:33:41 GMT -5 Dejnov said:

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Those players often do nothing other than play Powerplant and Dead City while squadding a 6 man squad. 

This would take 5-8 minutes out-of-game just assembling squad, waiting for MM, leaving squad when you get another map, reassembling squad, etc etc.

Furthermore, you'd often get minus-points when MM can't find a replacements. I doubt any Legends-players do this.

Mar 13, 2017 20:33:16 GMT -5 SGT D00M! said:

The following is a list of bots from best to worst based on what is in the Masters League and common in other high level leagues. I do not include the gunfighter bots as I have never played any of them. Please feel free to share where you think I am wrong and/or where you would place the Gunfighter bots in the list.

Top three Bots are almost interchangeable as they are almost all present in nearly all of the Master League hangers.

1. Lancelot
2. Fury
3. Griffin

The next three are the round out Bots of the Master League and have a similar per cent showing in Master League. People talk about the Rhino being exstinct in TT, but it is well represented in Master League.

4. Galahad
5. Carnage
6. Rhino

Leo and Natasha are common "placeholder" bots in Diamond and above and the Fujin seems to still get a little TT play time. The Raijin...meh

7. Leo
8. Natasha
9. Fujin
10. Raijin

The Gareth and Stalker are seen in some higher level hangars as dedicated beacon cappers.

11. Gareth
12. Stalker

Au/Ag Mediums seem to have no place in TT except the Galahad. The Boa and Rogata and even the Aphid Patton were once considered TT bots, but sadly, no longer.

13. Boa
14. Rogata
15. Patton
16. Golem
17. Vityaz

My, how the mighty have fallen. The poor Gepard, once ruler of Silver, is now nearly as worthless as the Ag lights. 

18. Gepard
19. Cossack
20. Schutze
21. Destrier

Not bad but a few remarks.

If we look at TT hangars, Galahad are very common. I'd put them with the top-3 to make it a top-4, Galahad is clearly superior to Rhino/Carnage.

I play in Diamond. Gareth is head and shoulder better than most robots there. Much faster than your Leo/Natasha while being just as good (arguably better) in confrontations. Gareth is really on the level of a Carnage or a Rhino, actually if you'd have 1/1 confrontations I'm pretty certain the Gareth would win most of those.

So I'd say it should be closer to something like this :

Top-tier (let's call it T1) : Lance, Fury, Griffin, Galahad

T2 : Gareth, Rhino, Carnage

T3 : Stalker, Leo, Natasha, Fujin, Rajin

T4 : Rogatka, Gepard, Patton, Boa, Golem, Vityaz

T5 : Cossack, Schutze, Destrier

The Gepard is bad now, sure, but not T5 bad still. It can definitely compete with mediums like Golem or Vityaz.

Same could be said for Cossacks but it's a bit of a special case.

Mar 14, 2017 8:03:04 GMT -5 The VVatcher said:

Mar 14, 2017 6:42:08 GMT -5 @nixpilot said:

Well, may not be the correct classification to use anymore? In any case, I am in Champions 2 and play with a maxed hangar. The other guys I mentioned have been playing for longer so I assume they are also maxed.
I don't get the Diamond reference.

I just wanted to know if there's a cut off, like if Diamond and above is TT. I just used Diamond because someone mentioned it above. Anyway I think TT should only refer to Champions tbh. And Tier lists are generally made by top players for competitive purpose like tournaments. At least that's how it's done in fighting games.

Not sure. 'Tiers' were used before the leagues were introduced, but I don't think it's the correct taxonomy now.

Since you can't 'drop down' by fielding weaker bots, I assume that matches are assembled with League as the primary classifier of who-goes-where.