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Post by GuitarGuy on Oct 11, 2017 10:45:32 GMT -5
I honestly doubt that "PDB working in team" would lay waste to "Haechi working in team". It is obvious that a coordinated team of robots can destroy several uncoordinated robots. However we need to compare equally skilled teams. And in my opinion, 2-3 Haechi team wreck any 2-3 bot on Powerplant, Shenzhen, Moon, Deadcity, Valley and most probably Springfield as well, if they stay in "city area" and proceed from there. I promise you a PDB team can evenly compete against a group of Haechi if they play it right and stay out of range. I have seen it done several times. Do voice coms and planning play are part in it? absolutely! But its harder to do that then to just nerf a bot that challenges your current skillset.. thats the whole point of my posts.
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Post by Russel on Oct 11, 2017 10:47:23 GMT -5
I honestly doubt that "PDB working in team" would lay waste to "Haechi working in team". It is obvious that a coordinated team of robots can destroy several uncoordinated robots. However we need to compare equally skilled teams. And in my opinion, 2-3 Haechi team wreck any 2-3 bot on Powerplant, Shenzhen, Moon, Deadcity, Valley and most probably Springfield as well, if they stay in "city area" and proceed from there. Sounds like a custom match challenge waiting to happen! Well I got lvl9 Kumiho and lvl10 Bulgasari, with set of lvl9 weapons for each. I am ready to get an iOS Dash teammate and play some matches vs Griffins.
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Post by NerFB on Oct 11, 2017 10:48:33 GMT -5
Yup, I saw a PDB hold off a couple of Haechi on Shen the other day, but to be fair, it was the best bit of piloting I've seen in a while. So, what your saying is a guy with a silver bot and wsp weapons held off not one but 2 of these completely overpowered bots by himself. Reading this post thread you would think that feat is totally impossible no matter how good you are. The only way to "fix" the "problem" is to nerf the bot in someway not working on your skills as a pilot...gosh it all makes sense now. Hmm, well I have a problem getting hit with trebs everytime i run out in the open with my unshielded bot and get destroyed. We need to cut the power of range in half so that way I can carelessly run out in the open and not die so quickly... ? Yes GG, but.... It was exceptional piloting, awareness of the map and noob Haechi Orkan pilots ?. S/he did brilliantly, until another Haechi Taran double dashed in and finished the fun..... er, me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 10:57:26 GMT -5
I'd be fine with the ancile strength and regeneration rate being reduced.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 11:05:16 GMT -5
To me, it's the second dash. It's all about that second dash.
Give a Griff a second jump, or a Carnage a second rush, and those bots become very powerful as well.
Take away the second dash and the bots are still quite strong, but not overly so.
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Post by Domino on Oct 11, 2017 11:08:01 GMT -5
You really need to line of the Stats and take a better look at these things. On paper and in production it's a much better bot than anything out there.
The only rational way to say it's not is because you have one and don't want it nerfed. That is really the only way I would take any of the discussions seriously because you can't justify it on paper and you can't justify it in the game when I see 2+ guys trying to kill it and only denting it while it wipes the floor with you.
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Post by snk on Oct 11, 2017 11:12:16 GMT -5
They're not that bad anymore. People are learning. Down in the Gold and Diamond leagues, they're like Ancilots. When they're sighted, it's all hands on deck! Like when I go out in my Bulg... sheesh, sometimes I don't even get to play much before I'm blasted to scrap! Are you playing Orkan Bulgasari? I don’t have Bulg, but Taran Bugl is more annoying. Dash help Bulg kill any Orkan bot between 300m-350, because Bugl isn’t Heachi with Ancile.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 11, 2017 11:14:48 GMT -5
To me, it's the second dash. It's all about that second dash. Give a Griff a second jump, or a Carnage a second rush, and those bots become very powerful as well. Take away the second dash and the bots are still quite strong, but not overly so. Oooh... Can we start a petition for Pix to do JUST THAT? If they gave all abilities a double action, I would never complain about the K-Bots, again. Double Jump Griff, are you kidding me?! Woot! Same with Rog and Carn and Lance! Double Rush Thunder Carn would be a BLAST!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 11, 2017 11:16:18 GMT -5
They're not that bad anymore. People are learning. Down in the Gold and Diamond leagues, they're like Ancilots. When they're sighted, it's all hands on deck! Like when I go out in my Bulg... sheesh, sometimes I don't even get to play much before I'm blasted to scrap! Are you playing Orkan Bulgasari? I don’t have Bulg, but Taran Bugl is more annoying. Dash help Bulg kill any Orkan bot between 300m-350, because Bugl isn’t Heachi with Ancile. Agreed... a Bulg with it's MUCH longer dash cooldown and lack of Ancile is Orange to the Haechi's Apple.
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Post by Russel on Oct 11, 2017 11:16:18 GMT -5
I honestly doubt that "PDB working in team" would lay waste to "Haechi working in team". It is obvious that a coordinated team of robots can destroy several uncoordinated robots. However we need to compare equally skilled teams. And in my opinion, 2-3 Haechi team wreck any 2-3 bot on Powerplant, Shenzhen, Moon, Deadcity, Valley and most probably Springfield as well, if they stay in "city area" and proceed from there. I promise you a PDB team can evenly compete against a group of Haechi if they play it right and stay out of range. I have seen it done several times. Do voice coms and planning play are part in it? absolutely! But its harder to do that then to just nerf a bot that challenges your current skillset.. thats the whole point of my posts. 1) Most people play with no voice comms 2) Most people like to play different bots, not just PDB 3) Haechi require a lot less skill to pilot than PDB That's why I don't like the Haechi. I honestly don't care about price tag, I just think the bot is broken :(
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Post by GuitarGuy on Oct 11, 2017 11:19:25 GMT -5
A Carnage shield is... Dont see any post on removing any of its hardpoints or Ancile..and you said it yourself "Maybe".. Maybe if the Carnage had 3 Heavy slots But it has only 2. LOL.. Your grasping Jarvis..:-) My points and argument are valid and you know this. We could split hairs all day. The point is its skills more than bots. I wont deny organized groups of K-Bots can drastically change the outcome of a game. This is the case with many bots loadouts. My clan will have " Carnage parties" where we all drop thunder loadouts on a small map and stay in a large group to smoke up shield bots. It doesnt always work though, we hit a squad that dropped plasma griffins last night on Canyon and got wrecked that time. Are our Carnages OP? in certain instances, hell yes! but not always. Just the same as a squad dropping in all Ancilots. Its hard to beat but not completely unstoppable.
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Post by agitator on Oct 11, 2017 11:44:55 GMT -5
Ok, I am going to throw out some unpopular opinions here. The rebalance viewpoint is coming from people who dont own these bots or spent the money on them so naturally they want them nerfed in some way because they feel its overpowered to there conventional hangars. This isnt fair to the people who have spent the money or grinded for keys to win one. Its my opinion that the reason many upper middle league players feel so threatened by them is because they get mixed in with Champion league players who usually have better CQC skills and know how to work in groups. One thing I have noticed lately with Diamond, Expert and many Master level players is the amount of long and mind range in hangar, some as many as 3 or 4 range bots and maybe two brawlers. This is a big problem when you hit any smaller maps an now half and sometimes over half of your hangar is simply ineffective to capture and hold beacons or to hold of any small group of red brawlers that are paired up. I have seen many top clans simply drop 4 plasma griffins at the beginning of a BR match and totally wreck a squad of Ork Haechis. While I will not deny the power of the new K bots, they are not as overwelming if you plan the right tactics for it and quit trying to play so much mid and long range. The Haechi is no stronger than a carnage or fujin, it just has superior mobility. When on big maps its very fragile out in the open. I would be willing to bet most of you only have problems with them on small maps. And this comes right back to honing your CQC skills and having a hangar that can brawl more than it can sit back and snipe with range. I gernaraly agree with you except for Haechi not being stronger than Carnage or Fujin. Sorry but that’s just not true Haechi has substantial more health than Carnage, and a bit more than Fujin. Fujin is a stationary target with is sheild up too. With all that said I’m with you calling for big nerfs isn’t cool for those that have paid. I do think a small nerf to its base health is in order though. It would still be a premium bot but not as game breaking as it is now.
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Post by Replicant on Oct 11, 2017 11:45:34 GMT -5
Ok, I am going to throw out some unpopular opinions here. The rebalance viewpoint is coming from people who dont own these bots or spent the money on them so naturally they want them nerfed in some way because they feel its overpowered to there conventional hangars. This isnt fair to the people who have spent the money or grinded for keys to win one. Its my opinion that the reason many upper middle league players feel so threatened by them is because they get mixed in with Champion league players who usually have better CQC skills and know how to work in groups. One thing I have noticed lately with Diamond, Expert and many Master level players is the amount of long and mind range in hangar, some as many as 3 or 4 range bots and maybe two brawlers. This is a big problem when you hit any smaller maps an now half and sometimes over half of your hangar is simply ineffective to capture and hold beacons or to hold of any small group of red brawlers that are paired up. I have seen many top clans simply drop 4 plasma griffins at the beginning of a BR match and totally wreck a squad of Ork Haechis. While I will not deny the power of the new K bots, they are not as overwelming if you plan the right tactics for it and quit trying to play so much mid and long range. The Haechi is no stronger than a carnage or fujin, it just has superior mobility. When on big maps its very fragile out in the open. I would be willing to bet most of you only have problems with them on small maps. And this comes right back to honing your CQC skills and having a hangar that can brawl more than it can sit back and snipe with range. I was in a Kumho last night and I tied up 70% of the team by simply sitting behind a wall. I never fired a shot ... The hype, gives way to fear, the fear gives way to inaction, the inaction gives way to defeat. The Dashes are riding a wave of populist horrific lore, like a scary camp fire story, which is translating into psychological self defeat. Double and triple team these things like fat kids on a bowl of smarties. Mechanically, the Haechi is strictly better than any other medium bots - more health, etc. Thing is most of my experience with K-Bots is Master/Champion FB Gameroom mechs leveled to 8w/8b or more facing off against my 5w/6b all Silver hanger. I think the level differential is doing the heavy lifting in those face-offs. In the few matches I've played on iOS, my hanger is 10w/9b and so the level difference is typically only 1-2 in the Haechi's favor. They are still a problem, but their OP status is more like "op." Double Dash plus shield gives them too much tactical flexibility. They can recover from a bad choice much more easily, and they don't pay any price for this in loss of fire-power. If MM weren't throwing over-leveled K-bots into the lower leagues I don't think it would near as big an issue.
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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 11, 2017 11:50:20 GMT -5
I was in a Kumho last night and I tied up 70% of the team by simply sitting behind a wall. I never fired a shot ... The hype, gives way to fear, the fear gives way to inaction, the inaction gives way to defeat. The Dashes are riding a wave of populist horrific lore, like a scary camp fire story, which is translating into psychological self defeat. Double and triple team these things like fat kids on a bowl of smarties. Pretty hard to double team them when you face a full squad of them. They take the beacons faster than your team, then heavily outgun you. ]I promise you a PDB team can evenly compete against a group of Haechi if they play it right and stay out of range. I have seen it done several times. Do voice coms and planning play are part in it? absolutely! But its harder to do that then to just nerf a bot that challenges your current skillset.. thats the whole point of my posts. What? First let's qualify what we are talking about here, I assume you mean PDB Griffin because a PDB Rhino is easily destroyed by a Haechi with Orkans, that fight isn't even close. Now if you run a full lineup of PDB Griffins, you're going to be down on Beacons immediately. The Haechi is much, much faster. A good team of Haechi players will then sit and camp and you'll be forced to attack into them to take beacons. By controlling where you can fight, the Haechi has an insurmountable advantage. Jumping away from the Orkans doesn't do much when it isn't helping you take the beacon. You might kill more Robots and do more damage in the end, but you lose the game. The Haechi only needs one full burst to kill you and can Dash over and over to cover. You can only jump every 25 seconds. And if they run Plasma Haechi? Then you're toast. A Plasma Haechi is an even fight with a PDB Griffin, and you're forced to push the action to get beacons, and the Haechi can corner shoot.
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chaosbunny
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Little Bot Big Guns.
Posts: 94
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Post by chaosbunny on Oct 11, 2017 12:00:22 GMT -5
My Rog loves playing tag with Kumi.
My Carnage adores close up 1 on 1 time with Hae.
My Fury likes sending long distance messages to Bulg.
Stop being so scared and defeatist and just shoot the 「fluffernutter」ing things.
Fear and Trepidation are your main problem.
Once you're over that they go down just like any other bot.
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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 11, 2017 12:03:16 GMT -5
Fear and Trepidation are your main problem. Once you're over that they go down just like any other bot. No one is afraid of these robots. And no one is arguing they are invincible. Overpowered is not synonymous with invincible.
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Post by Koalabear on Oct 11, 2017 12:08:20 GMT -5
They're not that bad anymore. People are learning. Down in the Gold and Diamond leagues, they're like Ancilots. When they're sighted, it's all hands on deck! Like when I go out in my Bulg... sheesh, sometimes I don't even get to play much before I'm blasted to scrap! Are you playing Orkan Bulgasari? I don’t have Bulg, but Taran Bugl is more annoying. Dash help Bulg kill any Orkan bot between 300m-350, because Bugl isn’t Heachi with Ancile. Yeah, I'm just not a taran kind of guy. I've tried numerous times to put tarans on my Bulg, but I just don't do as well with it. The strength of the Bulg against most bots is the ability to wade into their fire, turn, blast them and then dash out.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Oct 11, 2017 12:09:33 GMT -5
LOL.. Your grasping Jarvis..:-) My points and argument are valid and you know this. We could split hairs all day. The point is its skills more than bots. I wont deny organized groups of K-Bots can drastically change the outcome of a game. This is the case with many bots loadouts. My clan will have " Carnage parties" where we all drop thunder loadouts on a small map and stay in a large group to smoke up shield bots. It doesnt always work though, we hit a squad that dropped plasma griffins last night on Canyon and got wrecked that time. Are our Carnages OP? in certain instances, hell yes! but not always. Just the same as a squad dropping in all Ancilots. Its hard to beat but not completely unstoppable. You have 2 Haechis and that's why you are so defensive about the idea to nerf them. Admit it You dont own any dash bots is why our so offensive about the idea of nerfing them. Admit it.. ( it does both ways) Indeed. I have 2 Haechi. One with orks the other tarans. I spent my hard earned money to get them and many hours of playing against them when I had none to earn the silver I spent to upgrade them too. Now I can be a little more competitive in the upper meta that I play with my clan. Does it allow me to dominate others? I dont think so. For the record I have never been one to ask for nerfs on anything or buffs for that matter. I wish they would just leave stuff alone then the constant month to month changes in weapons levels we see now. Everytime a new bot hits people complain its too OP (myself too sometimes) but those who want to get better learn to counter them with new strategies. 8 months ago the world of War Robots came to an end with the Ancllot and everyone was screaming nerf, It got the shield nerfed over time once Pix sold enough of them and now even though its a super powerful rig, most know how to tackle it. This will be the same path the K bots will take weather I want them too or not.
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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 11, 2017 12:15:17 GMT -5
You have 2 Haechis and that's why you are so defensive about the idea to nerf them. Admit it You dont own any dash bots is why our so offensive about the idea of nerfing them. Admit it.. ( it does both ways) Indeed. I have 2 Haechi. One with orks the other tarans. I spent my hard earned money to get them and many hours of playing against them when I had none to earn the silver I spent to upgrade them too. Now I can be a little more competitive in the upper meta that I play with my clan. Does it allow me to dominate others? I dont think so. For the record I have never been one to ask for nerfs on anything or buffs for that matter. I wish they would just leave stuff alone then the constant month to month changes in weapons levels we see now. Everytime a new bot hits people complain its too OP (myself too sometimes) but those who want to get better learn to counter them with new strategies. 8 months ago the world of War Robots came to an end with the Ancllot and everyone was screaming nerf, It got the shield nerfed over time once Pix sold enough of them and now even though its a super powerful rig, most know how to tackle it. This will be the same path the K bots will take weather I want them too or not. Well, at least you admit you pay to win and believe that is a okay. I don't think money should have anything to do with whether or not you win. I think it should all come down to skill. And that is why I wouldn't pay a huge amount of money even though I can. It wouldn't give me satisfaction knowing I paid to win. In fact, knowing I didn't pay to win and outplaying a Haechi gives me satisfaction, and losing in a Haechi would make me feel like an idiot.
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Post by Domino on Oct 11, 2017 12:15:38 GMT -5
You have 2 Haechis and that's why you are so defensive about the idea to nerf them. Admit it You dont own any dash bots is why our so offensive about the idea of nerfing them. Admit it.. ( it does both ways) Indeed. I have 2 Haechi. One with orks the other tarans. I spent my hard earned money to get them and many hours of playing against them when I had none to earn the silver I spent to upgrade them too. Now I can be a little more competitive in the upper meta that I play with my clan. Does it allow me to dominate others? I dont think so. For the record I have never been one to ask for nerfs on anything or buffs for that matter. I wish they would just leave stuff alone then the constant month to month changes in weapons levels we see now. Everytime a new bot hits people complain its too OP (myself too sometimes) but those who want to get better learn to counter them with new strategies. 8 months ago the world of War Robots came to an end with the Ancllot and everyone was screaming nerf, It got the shield nerfed over time once Pix sold enough of them and now even though its a super powerful rig, most know how to tackle it. This will be the same path the K bots will take weather I want them too or not. SMH. Pixonic made them OP on purpose, so you can use your hard earned money to buy them and have an advantage over everyone else. Would you buy them if they had 1 medium point, 50k HP and walking speed of 28 km/h? I don't get it, why are people defending them is beyond me. You can't. Not on paper, not in the game.
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Post by Replicant on Oct 11, 2017 12:17:32 GMT -5
Yup, I saw a PDB hold off a couple of Haechi on Shen the other day, but to be fair, it was the best bit of piloting I've seen in a while. So, what your saying is a guy with a silver bot and wsp weapons held off not one but 2 of these completely overpowered bots by himself. Reading this post thread you would think that feat is totally impossible no matter how good you are. The only way to "fix" the "problem" is to nerf the bot in someway not working on your skills as a pilot...gosh it all makes sense now. Hmm, well I have a problem getting hit with trebs everytime i run out in the open with my unshielded bot and get destroyed. We need to cut the power of range in half so that way I can carelessly run out in the open and not die so quickly... Unless the Griffin had a massive level advantage or similar delta in pilot skill, the Haechi's should have torn the Griffin apart. this isn't an argument that the Haechi is OP (or that a Griffin is for that matter). Its an argument those Haechi pilots didn't know what they were doing - or that the Griffin was well supported by gekko/treb fire-support.
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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 11, 2017 12:28:06 GMT -5
You dont own any dash bots is why our so offensive about the idea of nerfing them. Admit it.. ( it does both ways) Indeed. I have 2 Haechi. One with orks the other tarans. I spent my hard earned money to get them and many hours of playing against them when I had none to earn the silver I spent to upgrade them too. Now I can be a little more competitive in the upper meta that I play with my clan. Does it allow me to dominate others? I dont think so. For the record I have never been one to ask for nerfs on anything or buffs for that matter. I wish they would just leave stuff alone then the constant month to month changes in weapons levels we see now. Everytime a new bot hits people complain its too OP (myself too sometimes) but those who want to get better learn to counter them with new strategies. 8 months ago the world of War Robots came to an end with the Ancllot and everyone was screaming nerf, It got the shield nerfed over time once Pix sold enough of them and now even though its a super powerful rig, most know how to tackle it. This will be the same path the K bots will take weather I want them too or not. SMH. Pixonic made them OP on purpose, so you can use your hard earned money to buy them and have an advantage over everyone else. Would you buy them if they had 1 medium point, 50k HP and walking speed of 28 km/h? I don't get it, why are people defending them is beyond me. You can't. Not on paper, not in the game. There are many reasons people defend them. A large part of this community wants to win more than lose and believes they are better than everyone and somehow deserve a 50%+ win rate. However, they are in fact average as most people are. Many people who have problems with the matchmaker have them for that reason. So buying a Haechi gives them that 50%+ winrate and allows to be as good as they feel they should be. Of course, the reason they are good is they now have a massive advantage in terms of equipment, but they deny that because it would mean they aren't as good as they want to be (they conveniently ignore they couldn't be good before they began spending money). Also when mediocre players pilot overpowered robots, they won't be able to use them correctly and thus they don't feel overpowered, especially when they are thrown against better pilots.The very fact Guitar Guy argues that a PDB Griffin is equivalent or even better than a Haechi is evidence of this, he doesn't understand the strength of the Haechi. The best players know Haechi is much stronger, and it is why the Haechi is replacing the Griffin at the top. Another reason is that people don't want to be told their purchases are bad. If I buy a Subaru WRX and you tell me how dumb that was, that I should have bought a Mitsubishi Evo, and give me objective numbers about how it is better, I will feel bad. I don't want to feel bad, these guys don't either.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Oct 11, 2017 12:45:54 GMT -5
You dont own any dash bots is why our so offensive about the idea of nerfing them. Admit it.. ( it does both ways) Indeed. I have 2 Haechi. One with orks the other tarans. I spent my hard earned money to get them and many hours of playing against them when I had none to earn the silver I spent to upgrade them too. Now I can be a little more competitive in the upper meta that I play with my clan. Does it allow me to dominate others? I dont think so. For the record I have never been one to ask for nerfs on anything or buffs for that matter. I wish they would just leave stuff alone then the constant month to month changes in weapons levels we see now. Everytime a new bot hits people complain its too OP (myself too sometimes) but those who want to get better learn to counter them with new strategies. 8 months ago the world of War Robots came to an end with the Ancllot and everyone was screaming nerf, It got the shield nerfed over time once Pix sold enough of them and now even though its a super powerful rig, most know how to tackle it. This will be the same path the K bots will take weather I want them too or not. SMH. Pixonic made them OP on purpose, so you can use your hard earned money to buy them and have an advantage over everyone else. Would you buy them if they had 1 medium point, 50k HP and walking speed of 28 km/h? I don't get it, why are people defending them is beyond me. You can't. Not on paper, not in the game. It's not defending them, it simply shutting the ?firetruck? up and playing the game as it is. There might be 1-2 years left in this title before they close it down...Then you can have your hate cake, and eat it too.
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Post by _psychø on Oct 11, 2017 12:46:13 GMT -5
I honestly doubt that "PDB working in team" would lay waste to "Haechi working in team". It is obvious that a coordinated team of robots can destroy several uncoordinated robots. However we need to compare equally skilled teams. And in my opinion, 2-3 Haechi team wreck any 2-3 bot on Powerplant, Shenzhen, Moon, Deadcity, Valley and most probably Springfield as well, if they stay in "city area" and proceed from there. I promise you a PDB team can evenly compete against a group of Haechi if they play it right and stay out of range. I have seen it done several times. Do voice coms and planning play are part in it? absolutely! But its harder to do that then to just nerf a bot that challenges your current skillset.. thats the whole point of my posts. I'd also add to what Russel said that you can't "stay out of range" if the Haechi is equipped with Tarans, unless you use the other not so effective vs ancile weapons like RDB.
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Post by _psychø on Oct 11, 2017 12:53:42 GMT -5
My Rog loves playing tag with Kumi. My Carnage adores close up 1 on 1 time with Hae. My Fury likes sending long distance messages to Bulg. Stop being so scared and defeatist and just shoot the ?firetruck?ing things. Fear and Trepidation are your main problem. Once you're over that they go down just like any other bot. When the Haechi has tarans, your Carnage is a toast because they dash +150m away from you then eat your bot with those tarans or even orkans because there orkans are strong enough to wreck a full HP and Ancile Canage. Rog can compete with a Kumiho indeed but you're most likely to come out dead or wrecked. Your Fury can also be toasted especially if you use anything than Tridents, the Bulgasari can also dodge tridents with no sweat though.
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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 11, 2017 12:55:36 GMT -5
SMH. Pixonic made them OP on purpose, so you can use your hard earned money to buy them and have an advantage over everyone else. Would you buy them if they had 1 medium point, 50k HP and walking speed of 28 km/h? I don't get it, why are people defending them is beyond me. You can't. Not on paper, not in the game. It's not defending them, it simply shutting the ?firetruck? up and playing the game as it is. There might be 1-2 years left in this title before they close it down...Then you can have your hate cake, and eat it too. Uhh... GuitarGuy was clearly defending them. So I don't know why you are defending him instead of taking your own advice. Unless you realize like I do, that you can correctly criticize the game and people who defend it (or in your case, people who criticize it) and enjoying playing the game at the same time.
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Favorite robot: Leo
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Post by kingdavid1 on Oct 11, 2017 13:02:28 GMT -5
As someone who doesn't have a single k bot they don't have to be nerfed that much. Slim the health down of the heachi and slow down the bulgasari and it would be fine. My orkan griffin and his ability always let me doge shots from a bulg and keep attacking while it dashes away. Same concept if I have a plasma griffin against a haechi. People who complain need to stop running trebuchet natashas and Zeus Leo's. I have a full hangar of brawlers and all my range is 350 or less. Calculate your jumps carefully if you approach or know a dash is nearby and for gods sake take a second and turn around a bit or look around. Know the damn range In which bots are around from you. I think myself as a good skilled player and honestly it's just common sense in the game to maintain yourself alive.
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Post by Domino on Oct 11, 2017 13:19:14 GMT -5
SMH. Pixonic made them OP on purpose, so you can use your hard earned money to buy them and have an advantage over everyone else. Would you buy them if they had 1 medium point, 50k HP and walking speed of 28 km/h? I don't get it, why are people defending them is beyond me. You can't. Not on paper, not in the game. It's not defending them, it simply shutting the ?firetruck? up and playing the game as it is. There might be 1-2 years left in this title before they close it down...Then you can have your hate cake, and eat it too. In other words, Shhhh... don't make any noise about this imbalance and let us k-bot pilots have the upper hand because we paid our dues. The worse thing Pixonic can do is allow more people access to these bots. Without a hard nerf, the go to hanger will be, 3xHaechi, Orkan but maybe a taran, 1xBulg for kewlness, 1xFury in case you land on Yama. Ancilot is no longer needed, too easy to destroy with Orkan Haechi, Dash in, kill, laugh, move on to next chubbs, rinse, repeat.. If this is what you want to see at the top, have fun, it's crappy enough with 3xAncilots, 1xFury, 1xGriffin. BTW: With the new Meta, the winner will not be by skill but who has the least amount of lag.. That's when Pixonic sells you a premium connection at a monthly cost
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Post by GuitarGuy on Oct 11, 2017 13:20:52 GMT -5
You dont own any dash bots is why our so offensive about the idea of nerfing them. Admit it.. ( it does both ways) Indeed. I have 2 Haechi. One with orks the other tarans. I spent my hard earned money to get them and many hours of playing against them when I had none to earn the silver I spent to upgrade them too. Now I can be a little more competitive in the upper meta that I play with my clan. Does it allow me to dominate others? I dont think so. For the record I have never been one to ask for nerfs on anything or buffs for that matter. I wish they would just leave stuff alone then the constant month to month changes in weapons levels we see now. Everytime a new bot hits people complain its too OP (myself too sometimes) but those who want to get better learn to counter them with new strategies. 8 months ago the world of War Robots came to an end with the Ancllot and everyone was screaming nerf, It got the shield nerfed over time once Pix sold enough of them and now even though its a super powerful rig, most know how to tackle it. This will be the same path the K bots will take weather I want them too or not. Well, at least you admit you pay to win and believe that is a okay. I don't think money should have anything to do with whether or not you win. I think it should all come down to skill. And that is why I wouldn't pay a huge amount of money even though I can. It wouldn't give me satisfaction knowing I paid to win. In fact, knowing I didn't pay to win and outplaying a Haechi gives me satisfaction, and losing in a Haechi would make me feel like an idiot. I dont pay to win. I payed because I like the game and want to be competitive in Champion League. By the way, Owning two dash bots doesnt guarantee me wins it only helps me be a little more competitive in the upper leagues with my clan where they are everywhere. You knew War Robots sold "better" equipment with money when you started playing it, its only an issue now when its an amount you dont want to spend. If playing a game for free gives you satisfaction over spending money for your entertainment even if it makes it more enjoyable then thats your thing but hating on someone who is willing to spend is just childish.
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Post by Domino on Oct 11, 2017 13:25:10 GMT -5
Well, at least you admit you pay to win and believe that is a okay. I don't think money should have anything to do with whether or not you win. I think it should all come down to skill. And that is why I wouldn't pay a huge amount of money even though I can. It wouldn't give me satisfaction knowing I paid to win. In fact, knowing I didn't pay to win and outplaying a Haechi gives me satisfaction, and losing in a Haechi would make me feel like an idiot. I dont pay to win. I payed because I like the game and want to be competitive in Champion League. By the way, Owning two dash bots doesnt guarantee me wins it only helps me be a little more competitive in the upper leagues with my clan where they are everywhere. You knew War Robots sold "better" equipment with money when you started playing it, its only an issue now when its an amount you dont want to spend. If playing a game for free gives you satisfaction over spending money for your entertainment even if it makes it more enjoyable then thats your thing but hating on someone who is willing to spend is just childish. You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph. Definition: www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pay-to-win
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