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Post by xalloxy on Sept 9, 2018 14:49:35 GMT -5
Ok guys I'm looking around and seeing that this movement is actually gaining force; I saw ingame on my list of potential clans to join, one android clan had: "we support september 10 strike" in their clan motto. (and pix was advertising them at the top of the page LOL) Coming across that after seeing thread in link war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/27529/breaking-camels-back-removing-opinions was enough to sway me. LET'S DO IT. And just see what happens. Tomorrow. One day. If you want to get on the game and check on your upgrades, chat ingame with your clan, that's fine. -Just don't watch any ads,don't play any game modes, and don't spend anything. Not one single match. Nothing. You can manage that right? Maybe even show yourself that you can put It down and stop If you want to. Spread the word wide and far to all clans and everyone.
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Post by grimjax on Sept 9, 2018 16:06:50 GMT -5
Yawn Whatever
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Post by BigBear on Sept 9, 2018 16:13:12 GMT -5
Pixonic don't care if you don't play tomorrow,Pixonic don't care if you don't play for the rest of the week or month,all Pixonic care about is money,so if you want to make a protest that will actually impact on Pixonic and make them sit up then don't spend a penny/dime and don't watch free ads.
That's all you can do and if enough of us do that then Pixonic may look at reversing some of the stupid decisions they have made in the last year or so.And seeing the decline in monthly profit Pix is suffering I think a lot of people are protesting in the monetary way.
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Post by bronzeknee on Sept 9, 2018 16:20:54 GMT -5
Pixonic don't care if you don't play tomorrow,Pixonic don't care if you don't play for the rest of the week or month,all Pixonic care about is money,so if you want to make a protest that will actually impact on Pixonic and make them sit up then don't spend a penny/dime and don't watch free ads. That's all you can do and if enough of us do that then Pixonic may look at reversing some of the stupid decisions they have made in the last year or so.And seeing the decline in monthly profit Pix is suffering I think a lot of people are protesting in the monetary way. Pixonic doesn't care. They are doubling down on their business model hoping to sell the newest stuff to the big whales and will close up shop when people stop spending.
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Post by RedRaider on Sept 9, 2018 16:24:03 GMT -5
Pixonic don't care if you don't play tomorrow,Pixonic don't care if you don't play for the rest of the week or month,all Pixonic care about is money,so if you want to make a protest that will actually impact on Pixonic and make them sit up then don't spend a penny/dime and don't watch free ads. That's all you can do and if enough of us do that then Pixonic may look at reversing some of the stupid decisions they have made in the last year or so.And seeing the decline in monthly profit Pix is suffering I think a lot of people are protesting in the monetary way. I agree 100%. This has always been the only way to get their attention. I know that there will always be some that spend, that is unfortunate, but if a larger number refuse to spend this may wake them up. Amazon does not have ads so that part is really easy, lol, but the other spending is a big part. I gave up spending just before the new economy. When they decided to put the screws to reasonable upgrade times is when I said no more. I suggest supporting a boycot on spending/ads. I dont see this strike doing anything at all, except making wait times on battles over 5 minutes. This strike will only effect players that dont.
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 9, 2018 16:48:22 GMT -5
I dont see this strike doing anything at all, except making wait times on battles over 5 minutes. This strike will only effect players that dont. That’s what strikes often do. They become a hinderance to the unknowing or ignorant masses of people. When strikes (or demonstrations) happen often enough, it creates awareness of a movement of displeasure, hopefully resulting in more people joining the movement (OCCUPY, anyone?). The whole idea is to make the people in charge, Pixonic in this case, listen to the concerns of the playerbase. If they don’t and think this movement is a temporary hinderance they can simply ignore it. When the movement builds up enough force (unplayable games, minute long matchmaking, no revenues through ads, no reveneus through sales, no positive promotion resulting in less downloads [already happening according to another thread], they can do three things, basically. Flip table and let the game die off. Ignore everything and keep the current course. Or listen to what caused the movement to come to life to begin with and change. All I know is I’m joining the movement. Stopped watching ads (hard to fight the urge, but I’m doing it, even though it’s detrimental to my hangar’s progress). Stopped buying (even though the 500 gold for any purchase is very tempting). Won’t play tomorrow (and every day of striking after that). And adding the “We support September 10 strike” to the clan motto. All I can do, they should not have taken our Au from the Royale with these upgrade times. It ?fluffernutter?s the game up. Or at least my joy in playing it. Everyone makes up their own mind. I did. I’m supporting the strike.
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Post by dobby on Sept 9, 2018 16:56:41 GMT -5
GL on having an impact. I’m not playing tomorrow anyway, not because of the strike but it coincides with me trying other more appealing games and work.
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 9, 2018 17:01:53 GMT -5
Hey man thanx for spreading awareness of our movement by bumping and helping keep the thread alive so more people will be reached by our message.
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Post by RedRaider on Sept 9, 2018 17:27:33 GMT -5
I intend on boycotting tomorrow as well. I am just saying that if you dont hit PIX in the pocketbook, they really wont listen. Just remember what happened when they met with that UTUBER Andian(i think) or who ever, He went with a full blown presentation against their course. They patted him on the head, maybe gavehim boat loads of ingame currency and sent him home. NOTHING CHANGED! And so it goes. We cant really effect downloads but we can effect cash flow.
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 9, 2018 17:33:36 GMT -5
I intend on boycotting tomorrow as well. I am just saying that if you dont hit PIX in the pocketbook, they really wont listen. Just remember what happened when they met with that UTUBER Andian(i think) or who ever, He went with a full blown presentation against their course. They patted him on the head, maybe gavehim boat loads of ingame currency and sent him home. NOTHING CHANGED! And so it goes. We cant really effect downloads but we can effect cash flow. I agree, money will be the biggest motivator. But numbers matter on all fronts. Or else they would not be measured. Ratings, players online, sales, ads, downloads, server stability. It all matters.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 9, 2018 17:34:45 GMT -5
I dont see this strike doing anything at all, except making wait times on battles over 5 minutes. This strike will only effect players that dont. That’s what strikes often do. They become a hinderance to the unknowing or ignorant masses of people. When strikes (or demonstrations) happen often enough, it creates awareness of a movement of displeasure, hopefully resulting in more people joining the movement. The whole idea is to make the people in charge, Pixonic in this case, listen to the concerns of the playerbase. If they don’t and think this movement is a temporary hinderance they can simply ignore it. When the movement builds up enough force (unplayable games, minute long matchmaking, no revenues through ads, no reveneus through sales, no positive promotion resulting in less downloads [already happening according to another thread], they can do three things, basically. Flip table and let the game die off. Ignore everything and keep the current course. Or listen to what caused the movement to come to life to begin with and change. All I know is I’m joining the movement. Stopped watching ads (hard to fight the urge, but I’m doing it, even though it’s detrimental to my hangar’s progress). Stopped buying (even though the 500 gold for any purchase is very tempting). Won’t play tomorrow (and every day of striking after that). And adding the “We support September 10 strike” to the clan motto. All I can do, they should not have taken our Au from the Royale with these upgrade times. It ?fluffernutter?s the game up. Or at least my joy in playing it. Everyone makes up their own mind. I did. I’m supporting the strike. I'm a bit taken aback here. Am I mistaken, or weren't you one of the games stronger supporters just a short time ago? Not trying to create an argument, because I'm in complete agreement with everything you just posted. I haven't spent a dime or watched an ad since I started this current smurf account a couple of months ago, and I have no problem at all being just one more player not in the player pool tomorrow or any other time we try to collectively get their attention. I'm just wondering if my recollection of a few disagreeing exchanges we've recently had is clear, as it seems we're more on the same page than not.
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 9, 2018 17:35:14 GMT -5
Pixonic don't care if you don't play tomorrow,Pixonic don't care if you don't play for the rest of the week or month,all Pixonic care about is money,so if you want to make a protest that will actually impact on Pixonic and make them sit up then don't spend a penny/dime and don't watch free ads. That's all you can do and if enough of us do that then Pixonic may look at reversing some of the stupid decisions they have made in the last year or so.And seeing the decline in monthly profit Pix is suffering I think a lot of people are protesting in the monetary way. actually they do care (somewhat) and It does have an effect If enough people join. First, they're paid for how many ads we watch; we take that away, stop watching, affects one source of their revenue. Secondly, not playing for even a day not only increases wait times, but It forces the matchmaker to select players from an even smaller pool, placing much higher league players in matches against much lower league players, creating even more chaos in the game then there already was along with more frustration and discontent. The powergap in the matchmaker combined with the increased wait times will alert players. They will notice the difference, they will be pissed off, and they will look for answers. -And they will find them. Thirdly, pix wants F2P players even If they don't pay, because anyone playing a match on the live server IS their product. We are all what they're selling. They need us to spin the wheels, be the gears of their machine. With less of those wheels spinning, less gears turning, their machine loses functionality. Doesn't run so well, slows down, generates less of the product (the gameplay experience), and ultimately affects their income. They want to keep their servers at peak capacity. So yes, there are ways to impact pix. One employment containing these forementioned properties, takes place tomorrow.
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Post by RedRaider on Sept 9, 2018 17:38:05 GMT -5
That’s what strikes often do. They become a hinderance to the unknowing or ignorant masses of people. When strikes (or demonstrations) happen often enough, it creates awareness of a movement of displeasure, hopefully resulting in more people joining the movement. The whole idea is to make the people in charge, Pixonic in this case, listen to the concerns of the playerbase. If they don’t and think this movement is a temporary hinderance they can simply ignore it. When the movement builds up enough force (unplayable games, minute long matchmaking, no revenues through ads, no reveneus through sales, no positive promotion resulting in less downloads [already happening according to another thread], they can do three things, basically. Flip table and let the game die off. Ignore everything and keep the current course. Or listen to what caused the movement to come to life to begin with and change. All I know is I’m joining the movement. Stopped watching ads (hard to fight the urge, but I’m doing it, even though it’s detrimental to my hangar’s progress). Stopped buying (even though the 500 gold for any purchase is very tempting). Won’t play tomorrow (and every day of striking after that). And adding the “We support September 10 strike” to the clan motto. All I can do, they should not have taken our Au from the Royale with these upgrade times. It ?fluffernutter?s the game up. Or at least my joy in playing it. Everyone makes up their own mind. I did. I’m supporting the strike. I'm a bit taken aback here. Am I mistaken, or weren't you one of the games stronger supporters just a short time ago? Not trying to create an argument, because I'm in complete agreement with everything you just posted. I haven't spent a dime or watched an ad since I started this current smurf account a couple of months ago, and I have no problem at all being just one more player not in the player pool tomorrow or any other time we try to collectively get their attention. I'm just wondering if my recollection of a few disagreeing exchanges we've recently had is clear, as it seems we're on the same page more often than not. Ya know Danny, it is only the biggest supporters that care enough to do something like this. They are the ones that see trends, and problems that effect the life of the game.
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 9, 2018 17:42:14 GMT -5
Thatâ??s what strikes often do. They become a hinderance to the unknowing or ignorant masses of people. When strikes (or demonstrations) happen often enough, it creates awareness of a movement of displeasure, hopefully resulting in more people joining the movement. The whole idea is to make the people in charge, Pixonic in this case, listen to the concerns of the playerbase. If they donâ??t and think this movement is a temporary hinderance they can simply ignore it. When the movement builds up enough force (unplayable games, minute long matchmaking, no revenues through ads, no reveneus through sales, no positive promotion resulting in less downloads [already happening according to another thread], they can do three things, basically. Flip table and let the game die off. Ignore everything and keep the current course. Or listen to what caused the movement to come to life to begin with and change. All I know is Iâ??m joining the movement. Stopped watching ads (hard to fight the urge, but Iâ??m doing it, even though itâ??s detrimental to my hangarâ??s progress). Stopped buying (even though the 500 gold for any purchase is very tempting). Wonâ??t play tomorrow (and every day of striking after that). And adding the â??We support September 10 strikeâ? to the clan motto. All I can do, they should not have taken our Au from the Royale with these upgrade times. It ã??fluffernutterã?s the game up. Or at least my joy in playing it. Everyone makes up their own mind. I did. Iâ??m supporting the strike. I'm a bit taken aback here. Am I mistaken, or weren't you one of the games stronger supporters just a short time ago? Not trying to create an argument, because I'm in complete agreement with everything you just posted. I haven't spent a dime or watched an ad since I started this current smurf account a couple of months ago, and I have no problem at all being just one more player not in the player pool tomorrow or any other time we try to collectively get their attention. I'm just wondering if my recollection of a few disagreeing exchanges we've recently had is clear, as it seems we're on the same page more often than not. No, you are absolutely right. And yes, I was (and still am) fine with all the new content coming out, and even New Economy prices and durations. What they should not have done, is taking Au out of the Royale. That’s what ?fluffernutter?ed it over for me, and why I am on board. Also, what I do not like, is complaining for complaining’s sake. If you don’t like something, do something about it. Or stop it as a whole. My being a promoter of the strike is me trying to do something about it. If we don’t get the Au back in Royale, or a decent substitute to lower upgrade timers, or upgrade timers back pre-NE, or something close to an equivalent.. I’m out.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 9, 2018 17:47:23 GMT -5
I'm a bit taken aback here. Am I mistaken, or weren't you one of the games stronger supporters just a short time ago? Not trying to create an argument, because I'm in complete agreement with everything you just posted. I haven't spent a dime or watched an ad since I started this current smurf account a couple of months ago, and I have no problem at all being just one more player not in the player pool tomorrow or any other time we try to collectively get their attention. I'm just wondering if my recollection of a few disagreeing exchanges we've recently had is clear, as it seems we're on the same page more often than not. No, you are absolutely right. And yes, I was (and still am) fine with all the new content coming out, and even New Economy prices and durations. What they should not have done, is taking Au out of the Royale. That’s what ?fluffernutter?ed it over for me, and why I am on board. Also, what I do not like, is complaining for complainingâ??s sake. If you donâ??t like something, do something about it. Or stop it as a whole. My being a promoter of the strike is me trying to do something about it. If we donâ??t get the Au back in Royale, or a decent substitute to lower upgrade timers, or upgrade timers back pre-NE, or something close to an equivalent.. Iâ??m out. Interesting. Perhaps they won't be happy until they've figured out a way to piss off everybody.
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Post by Domino on Sept 9, 2018 17:48:32 GMT -5
I've been boycotting since 3.9..
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 9, 2018 17:50:14 GMT -5
I've been boycotting since 3.9.. All I can recall was the Tanker’s appeal. Nevermind. I read “I’ve seen boycotting...” My bad. xD
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 18:38:51 GMT -5
I'm happy to see some of the community pull together on this and participate in the boycott. It needs a head on it though. Like a main set of goals/changes everyone can get on board with. Maybe even signatures etc under the list of those supporting that.
I know it boils down to change back to the old economy on upgrades from what I've gathered thus far. Realistically to me now, that's asking a bit much (not that I wouldn't like to see that myself). I mean we now have workshop 2.0 & it is easier to obtain things that were once harder to get. That is great. The company has to make money. If they go back to the old economy & still give you easier ways to get things. They will lose a big chunk of income. What they have done now is make having gold useful for many reasons. Speed upgrades, boosters & daily deals etc. Then took gold out of royals. Why? Because its what they are pushing us to buy for many reasons. The biggest being upgrade times IMO.
Now I'm not saying the boycott is wrong or that i think it's stupid. Just that there needs to be thought put into it. Because if you ask pix to change something. It's always a give & take. They might just change things to end up being worse.
I'd honestly like to see the premium that people buy utilized better. Like those that buy it get a discount on stuff. Also less waiting times on upgrades etc. Because then it's borderline paying a subscription that month to take advantage of REAL benifits. There's tons of players that pay in this game that could appreciate that.
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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Sept 9, 2018 18:47:31 GMT -5
Hmmm I shall give it a whirl... I might just sit around in my purple fishnet banana hammock waiting for my gf to come home from work..
my day off, nothing else constructive to do..
The real question is will it make a difference..?
To strike where it matters.. who is the "spokesperson" who will relay the true message to PIX cogently?
When everyone just "strikes" then everyone will have an opinion on what it is about to them.. then PIX gets a 1000 different messages.. which is not a good thing..
I used to handle Teamster Union contract negotiations .. you need a single spokesperson to convey the concerns of those striking.. otherwise it is all for naught..
just my thoughts, though I will support blindly.. as I have no idea if it is about ws2.0 (which I have very little issue with) or if it is about everything since the Dashbots.. which I have a lot of concerns about..
So.. what is the remedy you all are looking for? that is the most important question.. the goal..
Cheers..
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Post by descentx on Sept 9, 2018 18:48:23 GMT -5
Ohh WOOHOOOOO snow DAY!! WOOOHOOO omg we on snow day teACHEErs arent going get paid on snow day!!!! as long pix's get this 「dookie」 in there pockets this 「dookie」 will not do nothing. this exacty why pix do what they do and they love exactly this.
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Post by cheap on Sept 9, 2018 18:54:33 GMT -5
oh goodie! this means most Tanker and Clubber Clans won't be playing tommorrow, feel free to tell them to unistall game also.
looks like it might be a good Day from the "Clean Air of Springfield,the Majestic Views from the Moon, Snow Capped Peaks of Yam,and the Serene Quiet of DC"
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Post by Domino on Sept 9, 2018 18:56:25 GMT -5
Ohh WOOHOOOOO snow DAY!! WOOOHOOO omg we on snow day teACHEErs arent going get paid on snow day!!!! as long pix's get this ?dookie? in there pockets this ?dookie? will not do nothing. this exacty why pix do what they do and they love exactly this. DBB* in the Hard Corp clan just instakilled my buddy 3 times. Maybe they got a instakill feature when you spend 1000+?
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 9, 2018 19:15:45 GMT -5
oh goodie! this means most Tanker and Clubber Clans won't be playing tommorrow, feel free to tell them to unistall game also. looks like it might be a good Day from the "Clean Air of Springfield,the Majestic Views from the Moon, Snow Capped Peaks of Yam,and the Serene Quiet of DC" um If a significant number of people do strike tomorrow (which with the power of the movement growing at this rate there will be), you can expect a forecast of some of the most one-sided matches you will ever see and be the victim of at the hands of the whales and pay2win champs who will reach way down the leagues because the MMker will be forced to select from a much smaller player pool. The same whales and pay2win champs who never cared about the state of the game in the first place because they gladly shellout to stay at the top. It's gonna be brutal... I kinda wish I could spectate...
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 9, 2018 19:26:18 GMT -5
Just talked to clan leader of LOA (LeagueOfAssassins) on Android; he said he's going to display the movement thread on his clan's facebook page and fb chat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 19:40:33 GMT -5
Also it's been the 10th all day today in the other part of the world that's a day ahead of the USA.
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 9, 2018 19:42:50 GMT -5
*REMEMBER PEOPLE WE'RE AIMING FOR 1 FULL DAY OF STRIKING, 24 HOURS. WHEN THE CLOCK STRIKES MIDNIGHT DONOT PLAY*
obviously there will be some overlap and underlap due to difference in time zones, but we will still create a sustained, unified, concentrated absence.
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Post by Heishiro on Sept 9, 2018 20:12:49 GMT -5
Sept 10 Clan leader : Guys we need to follow the Strike today! Members : Yes! we will support!
Sept 11 Clan leader : Guys grind hard until morning we need to compensate the 1 day we lost our rank! Members : Oh.. oh.. omg.
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Post by xCHIEFx on Sept 9, 2018 20:38:29 GMT -5
I’m personally not going to participate in this “strike”. I play this game for fun and entertainment, and will continue to do so. But for those that chose to participate, more power to you.
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 9, 2018 21:25:47 GMT -5
I’m personally not going to participate in this “strike”. I play this game for fun and entertainment, and will continue to do so. But for those that chose to participate, more power to you. did you draw your avatar?
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Post by BigBear on Sept 9, 2018 22:59:41 GMT -5
Pixonic don't care if you don't play tomorrow,Pixonic don't care if you don't play for the rest of the week or month,all Pixonic care about is money,so if you want to make a protest that will actually impact on Pixonic and make them sit up then don't spend a penny/dime and don't watch free ads. That's all you can do and if enough of us do that then Pixonic may look at reversing some of the stupid decisions they have made in the last year or so.And seeing the decline in monthly profit Pix is suffering I think a lot of people are protesting in the monetary way. actually they do care (somewhat) and It does have an effect If enough people join. First, they're paid for how many ads we watch; we take that away, stop watching, affects one source of their revenue. Secondly, not playing for even a day not only increases wait times, but It forces the matchmaker to select players from an even smaller pool, placing much higher league players in matches against much lower league players, creating even more chaos in the game then there already was along with more frustration and discontent. The powergap in the matchmaker combined with the increased wait times will alert players. They will notice the difference, they will be pissed off, and they will look for answers. -And they will find them. Thirdly, pix wants F2P players even If they don't pay, because anyone playing a match on the live server IS their product. We are all what they're selling. They need us to spin the wheels, be the gears of their machine. With less of those wheels spinning, less gears turning, their machine loses functionality. Doesn't run so well, slows down, generates less of the product (the gameplay experience), and ultimately affects their income. They want to keep their servers at peak capacity. So yes, there are ways to impact pix. One employment containing these forementioned properties, takes place tomorrow. So you think the pissed off player base will look for answers and find them ?. We have looked for answers to screwed up matchmaking and not found it. We have looked for answers about lag and not found it. We have looked for answers on OP bots and weapons and have not found it. We have looked for answers on the new economy and have not found it. This list could go on and on and it will be full of we did not find it. So you see a pattern forming ?,Pix don't care about player happiness,it cares about cold hard cash,and its regular flow into its account. I wish a player strike would make Pix sit up and take notice but I don think it will,im going to try a few games soon and if I experience long wait times and getting pounded to dust by champ players then I guess your theory was correct and I will return here and apologise.
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