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Post by BossieBos on Sept 16, 2018 1:31:35 GMT -5
*hands you voodo doll-making kit with complimentary needles* I guess we found that black magic spammer culprit! xD
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 5:06:27 GMT -5
All I can add of some value is this.
A When you go to a bunch of people asking for support, fist you ask whats their problem. What they want fixed, what they consider no1 priority and bottom line, what should be done to better the situation for as many peps as possible.
This boycott and other recent movements/posts, frankly seem to me like a bunch of dudes wanting their problem fixed. Their no1 problem, not our no1 problem.
Boycoters don't even bother asking what we want. They just announce the goal. Their goal. Fix what bothers them mostly.
If you think this is over the top, I propose a simple test. Set up a poll. Which of the following demands should be no1 goal of a boycot: 1. Fix MM 2. Fix tanking 3. New economy ... 10. Bring back AU
B Take into account, the giveaway factor. Many times Pixonic gives gear for free through this forum. If collectively the forum gives them the finger and boycots them, what will they do ?
Would you provide free gear to a medium that boycots your product ? I wouldn't.
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 16, 2018 6:04:49 GMT -5
All I can add of some value is this. A When you go to a bunch of people asking for support, fist you ask whats their problem. What they want fixed, what they consider no1 priority and bottom line, what should be done to better the situation for as many peps as possible. This boycott and other recent movements/posts, frankly seem to me like a bunch of dudes wanting their problem fixed. Their no1 problem, not our no1 problem. Boycoters don't even bother asking what we want. They just announce the goal. Their goal. Fix what bothers them mostly. If you think this is over the top, I propose a simple test. Set up a poll. Which of the following demands should be no1 goal of a boycot: 1. Fix MM 2. Fix tanking 3. New economy ... 10. Bring back AU B Take into account, the giveaway factor. Many times Pixonic gives gear for free through this forum. If collectively the forum gives them the finger and boycots them, what will they do ? Would you provide free gear to a medium that boycots your product ? I wouldn't. I’d rather have a balanced game, than freebies as a pacifier. (B.) Also, if you think “this medium” is the larger sum of players boycotting, you must not have read, or understood, the content of the plea to Pixonic. Besides, every single point raised in the plea is a list of frustrations voiced out many of times here on the forums. Not just by “a bunch of dudes”. If you don’t see that, or noticed it before, then I don’t know what to say to you. You’re not the first naysayer to discredit the list of wants/demands. Could that be because it doesn’t resonate with your personal list? (A.)
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 16, 2018 6:20:12 GMT -5
All I can add of some value is this. A When you go to a bunch of people asking for support, fist you ask whats their problem. What they want fixed, what they consider no1 priority and bottom line, what should be done to better the situation for as many peps as possible. This boycott and other recent movements/posts, frankly seem to me like a bunch of dudes wanting their problem fixed. Their no1 problem, not our no1 problem. Boycoters don't even bother asking what we want. They just announce the goal. Their goal. Fix what bothers them mostly. If you think this is over the top, I propose a simple test. Set up a poll. Which of the following demands should be no1 goal of a boycot: 1. Fix MM 2. Fix tanking 3. New economy ... 10. Bring back AU B Take into account, the giveaway factor. Many times Pixonic gives gear for free through this forum. If collectively the forum gives them the finger and boycots them, what will they do ? Would you provide free gear to a medium that boycots your product ? I wouldn't. Were you around when we had our first, and very last, round table discussion with PIXONIC's developers? They listened politely and thanked our representatives that we elected for the purpose and then promptly left. In doing so they slammed the door shut behind them and then barred and locked it from within. They once had a direct link to these forums advertised in the Info portion of the game, but right after the round table that was cut out and discarded as well. They proved by their actions, without a doubt, exactly what they thought of our ideas and what they thought of us as customers as well. And in all that time since their attitude and regard towards us has not changed one tiny bit to the positive. Their "gifts" are merely placations to the dissatisfied and cost them nothing. I'd rather have a fair and balanced game than any number of "gifts" because my enjoyment has never been predicated on recieving anything but a decent match each and every time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 6:44:36 GMT -5
All I can add of some value is this. A When you go to a bunch of people asking for support, fist you ask whats their problem. What they want fixed, what they consider no1 priority and bottom line, what should be done to better the situation for as many peps as possible. This boycott and other recent movements/posts, frankly seem to me like a bunch of dudes wanting their problem fixed. Their no1 problem, not our no1 problem. Boycoters don't even bother asking what we want. They just announce the goal. Their goal. Fix what bothers them mostly. If you think this is over the top, I propose a simple test. Set up a poll. Which of the following demands should be no1 goal of a boycot: 1. Fix MM 2. Fix tanking 3. New economy ... 10. Bring back AU B Take into account, the giveaway factor. Many times Pixonic gives gear for free through this forum. If collectively the forum gives them the finger and boycots them, what will they do ? Would you provide free gear to a medium that boycots your product ? I wouldn't. Were you around when we had our first, and very last, round table discussion with PIXONIC's developers? They listened politely and thanked our representatives that we elected for the purpose and then promptly left. In doing so they slammed the door shut behind them and then barred and locked it from within. They once had a direct link to these forums advertised in the Info portion of the game, but right after the round table that was cut out and discarded as well. They proved by their actions, without a doubt, exactly what they thought of our ideas and what they thought of us as customers as well. And in all that time since their attitude and regard towards us has not changed one tiny bit to the positive. Their "gifts" are merely placations to the dissatisfied and cost them nothing. I'd rather have a fair and balanced game than any number of "gifts" because my enjoyment has never been predicated on recieving anything but a decent match each and every time. Personally, my favorite battles are narrow losses to better clans (with superior hangars too), that went to the wire. Nobody on out side is delusional enough to think that we will succeed in persuading the ?dookie? heads at Pixonic. However, Iâ??m more than happy to stop feeding the greedy ?go solo?ers with less play, no vids watched and no micro purchases (F2P since June,btw). The player network in Rus is well linked, and the originator of this change in direction among Rus clans might just be one of these forum members, so the spark is very much appreciated. We canâ??t and wonâ??t control Pixâ??s sleazy monetization policies, but we can control our level of participation, which, however futile, is refreshing. My clan mates have probably an average of 6k wins, and for them to stand down collectively for a week here and there is something Iâ??m more than happy to ablige. This isnâ??t about the abracadabra magic word, it is about giving one of the slimier developers out there (that changes the rules as they go) the middle finger. Bait + switch = Pixonic. We will decide the terms of our participation. If you or anyone here has faced us, you already know that we put up a fun, no-camping match. Some of the Chechnian guys can put up 1.5M damage without mk2 anything.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 7:48:51 GMT -5
All I can add of some value is this. A When you go to a bunch of people asking for support, fist you ask whats their problem. What they want fixed, what they consider no1 priority and bottom line, what should be done to better the situation for as many peps as possible. This boycott and other recent movements/posts, frankly seem to me like a bunch of dudes wanting their problem fixed. Their no1 problem, not our no1 problem. Boycoters don't even bother asking what we want. They just announce the goal. Their goal. Fix what bothers them mostly. If you think this is over the top, I propose a simple test. Set up a poll. Which of the following demands should be no1 goal of a boycot: 1. Fix MM 2. Fix tanking 3. New economy ... 10. Bring back AU B Take into account, the giveaway factor. Many times Pixonic gives gear for free through this forum. If collectively the forum gives them the finger and boycots them, what will they do ? Would you provide free gear to a medium that boycots your product ? I wouldn't. Were you around when we had our first, and very last, round table discussion with PIXONIC's developers? They listened politely and thanked our representatives that we elected for the purpose and then promptly left. In doing so they slammed the door shut behind them and then barred and locked it from within. They once had a direct link to these forums advertised in the Info portion of the game, but right after the round table that was cut out and discarded as well. They proved by their actions, without a doubt, exactly what they thought of our ideas and what they thought of us as customers as well. And in all that time since their attitude and regard towards us has not changed one tiny bit to the positive. Their "gifts" are merely placations to the dissatisfied and cost them nothing. I'd rather have a fair and balanced game than any number of "gifts" because my enjoyment has never been predicated on recieving anything but a decent match each and every time. Yes I was. I stopped playing my first account may 2015. Stopped out of frustration, so I agree with you more than you know. Regarding the giveaway. Iam not saying select the few gifts over boycot or game balance. This is a bad trade off so I wouldn't propose it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 8:32:59 GMT -5
All I can add of some value is this. A When you go to a bunch of people asking for support, fist you ask whats their problem. What they want fixed, what they consider no1 priority and bottom line, what should be done to better the situation for as many peps as possible. This boycott and other recent movements/posts, frankly seem to me like a bunch of dudes wanting their problem fixed. Their no1 problem, not our no1 problem. Boycoters don't even bother asking what we want. They just announce the goal. Their goal. Fix what bothers them mostly. If you think this is over the top, I propose a simple test. Set up a poll. Which of the following demands should be no1 goal of a boycot: 1. Fix MM 2. Fix tanking 3. New economy ... 10. Bring back AU B Take into account, the giveaway factor. Many times Pixonic gives gear for free through this forum. If collectively the forum gives them the finger and boycots them, what will they do ? Would you provide free gear to a medium that boycots your product ? I wouldn't. I’d rather have a balanced game, than freebies as a pacifier. (B.) Also, if you think “this medium” is the larger sum of players boycotting, you must not have read, or understood, the content of the plea to Pixonic. Besides, every single point raised in the plea is a list of frustrations voiced out many of times here on the forums. Not just by “a bunch of dudes”. If you don’t see that, or noticed it before, then I don’t know what to say to you. You’re not the first naysayer to discredit the list of wants/demands. Could that be because it doesn’t resonate with your personal list? (A.) 1. Me too. Iam not suggesting a trade off. 2. I realize the extent of the movement, and I also think something must be done. This is why I asked for people here to consider supporting (http://war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/27465/problem?page=2 , Strange ) 3. A long list is hard to be accepted, and creates friction cause some don't like all the points. So, a short one with 1-3 points max has for me, a greater chance of success. Which ones ? The ones peps find as the most important. Not me or you or someone deciding to make a list. Just set up a poll. Why not ask? 4. Since I suggested here to support the boycott obviously I'm not a nayser. 5. Creating a smaller and more representative list after a poll,doesn't mean I'm discreting the current one. 6. My list is fix MM and eliminate tankers (first 2), but will boycott for whatever comes out as forum consensus.
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 16, 2018 9:05:09 GMT -5
Fair enough. I presented Pixonic with a list of much debated and complained about issues which currently take out the joy of playing for a lot of players, based on threads started in the past couple of months (excluding the ones complaining about new content, before even trying them out, for obvious reasons). In my opinion, and I feel in a lot of supporter’s too, the list is pretty comprehensive in all issues that need to be taken care of. From my point of view, downplaying or straight up not even mentioning issues which are regarded as “less important” according to a poll, yet are ruining the game for, apparently, a minority of the players (which can still be a whole lot of people) is, well... not good enough. As for taking polls and figuring out support from people that actually support a boycott to begin with..: Out of 21 people participating in tomorrow’s boycott.. 18 agree with the wants/demands and the actions set out in an attempt to let Pixonic feel how we feel about the current state of the game. On top of that, I posted the plea here before sending it in to Pixonic, asking for issues missing according to supporters feeling it’s high time something needs to be done, so that I could edit the plea, prior to sending it in to Pixonic. I received hardly to no Suggestions in PM, or here in this thread, which led me to believe most people in favor of a strike/boycott/whathaveyou were in favor of the content of the plea itself. As most of the comments here will confirm. If you feel it’s better to come up with a less convoluted list (which it really isn’t, in my opinion... all issues listed are currently very detrimental to the game as a whole, on every league-level), then feel free to put effort in it. You do you, I’ll do me.
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 16, 2018 10:25:04 GMT -5
I think that was kinda Noen's point. Unity is key. Our efforts and practicality would be greatly amplified If we "all do eachother", and condensed the seperate manifestos into a concise unified multi-focused agenda with short simple main goals that everyone can throw the full weight of their support behind. We must have a strike orogy, instead of eveyone playing with themselves in the corner. Lube up, and expect alot of traffic. -Don't be stingy Bossie, bring that azz over here.
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 16, 2018 12:12:43 GMT -5
I think that was kinda Noen's point. Unity is key. Our efforts and practicality would be greatly amplified If we "all do eachother", and condensed the seperate manifestos into a concise unified multi-focused agenda with short simple main goals that everyone can throw the full weight of their support behind. We must have a strike orogy, instead of eveyone playing with themselves in the corner. Lube up, and expect alot of traffic. -Don't be stingy Bossie, bring that azz over here. Sure. But you can’t please 100% of the people. Which is why you get a... BIG
FAT
NOOOOOOOO
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 16, 2018 19:36:27 GMT -5
I think that was kinda Noen's point. Unity is key. Our efforts and practicality would be greatly amplified If we "all do eachother", and condensed the seperate manifestos into a concise unified multi-focused agenda with short simple main goals that everyone can throw the full weight of their support behind. We must have a strike orogy, instead of eveyone playing with themselves in the corner. Lube up, and expect alot of traffic. -Don't be stingy Bossie, bring that azz over here. Sure. But you can’t please 100% of the people.
Which is why you get a... BIG FAT NOOOOOOOO
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 16, 2018 23:16:28 GMT -5
24 hours of primetime allnatural highoctane protest coming at you!- whachugonnadu?
STRIKE #2 BEGINS NOW
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Post by T34 on Sept 16, 2018 23:50:09 GMT -5
All I can add of some value is this. A When you go to a bunch of people asking for support, fist you ask whats their problem. What they want fixed, what they consider no1 priority and bottom line, what should be done to better the situation for as many peps as possible. This boycott and other recent movements/posts, frankly seem to me like a bunch of dudes wanting their problem fixed. Their no1 problem, not our no1 problem. Boycoters don't even bother asking what we want. They just announce the goal. Their goal. Fix what bothers them mostly. If you think this is over the top, I propose a simple test. Set up a poll. Which of the following demands should be no1 goal of a boycot: 1. Fix MM 2. Fix tanking 3. New economy ... 10. Bring back AU B Take into account, the giveaway factor. Many times Pixonic gives gear for free through this forum. If collectively the forum gives them the finger and boycots them, what will they do ? Would you provide free gear to a medium that boycots your product ? I wouldn't. Were you around when we had our first, and very last, round table discussion with PIXONIC's developers? They listened politely and thanked our representatives that we elected for the purpose and then promptly left. In doing so they slammed the door shut behind them and then barred and locked it from within. They once had a direct link to these forums advertised in the Info portion of the game, but right after the round table that was cut out and discarded as well. They proved by their actions, without a doubt, exactly what they thought of our ideas and what they thought of us as customers as well. And in all that time since their attitude and regard towards us has not changed one tiny bit to the positive. Their "gifts" are merely placations to the dissatisfied and cost them nothing. I'd rather have a fair and balanced game than any number of "gifts" because my enjoyment has never been predicated on recieving anything but a decent match each and every time. ...and some time after they said the round table wasn't effective so they decided to change the format and talk to some players instead. Most of us know what their game is.
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 16, 2018 23:57:17 GMT -5
Were you around when we had our first, and very last, round table discussion with PIXONIC's developers? They listened politely and thanked our representatives that we elected for the purpose and then promptly left. In doing so they slammed the door shut behind them and then barred and locked it from within. They once had a direct link to these forums advertised in the Info portion of the game, but right after the round table that was cut out and discarded as well. They proved by their actions, without a doubt, exactly what they thought of our ideas and what they thought of us as customers as well. And in all that time since their attitude and regard towards us has not changed one tiny bit to the positive. Their "gifts" are merely placations to the dissatisfied and cost them nothing. I'd rather have a fair and balanced game than any number of "gifts" because my enjoyment has never been predicated on recieving anything but a decent match each and every time. ...and some time after they said the round table wasn't effective so they decided to change the format and talk to some players instead. Most of us know what their game is. One thing I don't understand about that whole roundtable event thing is... This forum sent their own representatives there to Russia in person with Adrian at that table. I can understand Adrian swearing an oath of silence to not tell anyone virtually anything about what was said there because he's their lapdog, but why didn't our own forum members give us all the news or even any information at all? Why did THEY stay silent? I invite ANYONE to help unravel this mystery.
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 17, 2018 4:28:59 GMT -5
Hey everyone, Thanks for supporting in not playing today, in favor of the cause! Personally, after a full week of not playing and today and tomorrow after that, I’m really looking forward to playing some battles with my clanmates again on Wednesday. But it’s a small sacrifice for the greater good. Of course I will keep everyone up-to-date if Pixonic decides to communicate anything directly, which I am not really expecting yet. So it might be necessary to tighten the screws some more after Tuesday. On Wednesday I will be changing my username in-game as suggested by cheap to hopefully create awareness of a boycott going on. Hopefully this will create a little more momentum by spreading the cause. If anyone has any ideas of how to get more attention to the cause (making a post on Reddit didn’t help a whole lot, since the War Robots subreddit has the policy of not allowing promotion of assembled protests, sadly enough), it’s more than welcome to post here. With Pixonic hinting at separating the game mode selector at the start of a solo battle or squad, it’s a step in the right direction, which leaves us with the following issues that still need to get sorted out by Pixonic to get more enjoyment out of the game: Appreciate everyone’s dedication and willingness to stand for something they believe in. Truly hope Pixonic will change their track record and actually appreciate the community, listen to their concerns and change the current content and mechanics which are so detrimental to this game with so much potential, according to the players that spend a lot of time playing it. Let’s hope they realize it before it’s too late and people have just given up on Pixonic and their current incarnation of War Robots and moved on to more appealing alternatives without looking back. Appreciate your commitment, ladies and gents. Please spread the word and.. Let’s make War Robots great again! Support the Movement. Thanks for your time, Bossie.
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 17, 2018 4:39:32 GMT -5
Why did THEY stay silent? I invite ANYONE to help unravel this mystery. Money talks. And so do empty promises. Besides that... Contracts and oaths can ?fluffernutter? up your free will to speak about secret stuffs. You can join, but you can never leave.
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 17, 2018 7:00:00 GMT -5
Why did THEY stay silent? I invite ANYONE to help unravel this mystery. Money talks. And so do empty promises. Besides that... Contracts and oaths can ?fluffernutter? up your free will to speak about secret stuffs. You can join, but you can never leave. our representatives should have never been willing to sign any kind of nondisclosure agreement. That's just stupid; they should have known better than that before even stepping off the plane. I'd be curious to see what those specific forum members have to say about It, If they're still around, whoever they are.
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Post by AVC on Sept 17, 2018 7:12:59 GMT -5
This thread has more pages than votes in it's poll,
just sayin'
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 17, 2018 7:16:31 GMT -5
This thread has more pages than votes in it's poll, just sayin' the poll just started about 7 hours ago, this thread has existed for 8 days just sayin'
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 17, 2018 7:56:21 GMT -5
This thread has more pages than votes in it's poll, just sayin' the poll just started about 7 hours ago, this thread has existed for 8 days just sayin' *facepalms*
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 17, 2018 23:28:20 GMT -5
pix knows the strike is cordinated to hit every monday of each week, and that's the exact day they decide to release the highly acclaimed seperarte game modes change that they know everyone will flock to.
-coincidence?
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 18, 2018 4:25:54 GMT -5
Yes. Clearly.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Sept 18, 2018 6:05:46 GMT -5
...and some time after they said the round table wasn't effective so they decided to change the format and talk to some players instead. Most of us know what their game is. One thing I don't understand about that whole roundtable event thing is... This forum sent their own representatives there to Russia in person with Adrian at that table. I can understand Adrian swearing an oath of silence to not tell anyone virtually anything about what was said there because he's their lapdog, but why didn't our own forum members give us all the news or even any information at all? Why did THEY stay silent? I invite ANYONE to help unravel this mystery. No one went to Russia. That was Adrian's second trip. And, not to defend him, but no NDA, no trip.
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Post by Eat This!!!! on Sept 18, 2018 9:58:00 GMT -5
Ok ladies and gentlemen, I have good news to share. The separation of game modes has hit the US servers on IOS now for me locally in the southwest. After hearing about it on Android It was not here locally for me less than 24 hours ago when I last checked. Coincidence? My War Robots resets occur here at 4am and I assume that’s when this took place because it’s been several hours since it auto changed without a required update/ download. That said....
This is now day 2. The list of issues remain. This is a good start but keep in mind they recently announced this is a test only posted in reddit under “ Separated Queues Megathread”
Pixonic said :
“Disclaimer: we're running this in a test mode for two weeks (until Oct 1st). If everything will be alright (meaning: MM time/quality is okay and no tech difficulties are present), we may leave everything as is.”
The representative said if you want your view to be heard on the separate queue game mode Pixonic is listening and to post there. We have less than 2 weeks!
Please refrain to just that focused demand of the game mode options to keep it in place for everyone including random.
Repeat.
Please refrain your comments to just that focused demand of the game mode.
Let’s get that achieved first on those terms to leave it as it is with options to choose from.
This a a good move forward but there is more work to do next week and beyond until we see more tests and solutions to the things they needed to be addressing already until the game issues are all finally addressed / resolved in total.
Let’s achieve one small victory after another. This should be the first.
Keep the faith, keep moving forward, we march on.
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Post by >bobby_digital< on Sept 18, 2018 16:51:30 GMT -5
pix knows the strike is cordinated to hit every monday of each week, and that's the exact day they decide to release the highly acclaimed seperarte game modes change that they know everyone will flock to. -coincidence? maybe because Monday, in the majority of the western world, is the first work day of the week? just spitballing ideas here...
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Post by xalloxy on Sept 18, 2018 22:58:38 GMT -5
pix knows the strike is cordinated to hit every monday of each week, and that's the exact day they decide to release the highly acclaimed seperarte game modes change that they know everyone will flock to. -coincidence? maybe because Monday, in the majority of the western world, is the first work day of the week? just spitballing ideas here... not discounting that possibility
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