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Post by Russel on May 19, 2017 16:08:40 GMT -5
I don't like player sabotaging matches. And I think that people who are sealclubbing are just overcompensating for something in life. Or, most probably, they bought Bots\Equipment and don't know what to do with it. But MM put them into higher league that their abilities, due to that equipment and ability to take A LOT of hits while their teammates doing all the work. However, I think that if somebody wants to move to lower league because he likes it there; Or player want to get to LQ and play there; Or you are just relaxing and playing it slow with just Hydra\Zenit\KangDae Or (me, for example) testing out a lot of new equipment to find out what's what Then you are doing nothing wrong. As long as you are NOT deliberately sabotaging matches, and NOT abusing children\new players down the leagues. Do you agree with this? I absolutely agree. The only thing I don't agree with is that the matchmaker would place a crap player in a higher league than they should be in, and the player needs to rectify that by tanking. If a player has a streak of good luck that places them higher than they should be, they will promptly lose enough matches to put them back down where they belong. They don't need to take matters into their own hands. Well, you might be right. But I played for three months purely with Ag bots (Ag=silver) in Gold\Diamond iOS, and met too many gold bots that were very easy to destroy. I am not sure why so, that was my guess.
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Post by make7upyours on May 19, 2017 16:30:10 GMT -5
I kinda disagree because you're fighting in a lower arena with high level bots/weapons.
And if you think about it, how do you drop to a lower arena? You purposely lose games.
That's why I keep advocating level caps. At least then you're on an even playing field with skill being the difference.
I feel like this is a catch 22. The problem exists because people are smurfing/tanking/whatever you call it. It's the high level players that are not where they're supposed to be. Not the lower player. It's the high level play that is trespassing so to speak.
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Post by SunTsu on May 19, 2017 16:38:49 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why you would want to fight with a bunch of folks that are obviously weaker than you. Where is the fun in that? If people need gold this bad they are welcome to come over and mow my lawn, I will give them $20 bucks and they can go buy some gold...
Or is this an affirmation of your virtual phallus size, to log into a battle, then leave, or just sit there and go make some pizza rolls while your squad fights...all in an effort to get to battle bots half your strength?
Does the "L" in LQ stand for Labia?
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Post by Russel on May 19, 2017 17:00:52 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why you would want to fight with a bunch of folks that are obviously weaker than you. Where is the fun in that? If people need gold this bad they are welcome to come over and mow my lawn, I will give them $20 bucks and they can go buy some gold... Or is this an affirmation of your virtual phallus size, to log into a battle, then leave, or just sit there and go make some pizza rolls while your squad fights...all in an effort to get to battle bots half your strength? Well, I can tell you that I like my current hangar. It is lvl2-3 bots with lvl 6-8 weapons in iOS Gold. And I can see that there are many people who have far better gear but less skill, because I manage getting more than 50% wins even with this equipment. Why am I doing this? 1) As I stated - I like to see what my new toys are capable of. And don't know 「dookie」 about which config should I use. So, being proud owner of 3 Jesses, 2 Docs and 5 slots (it's slots again!) I outfit them with different setups, and can test out several different bots at single battle. Man, I tell you those all-pinata Jesses can mow down Galahads fast! And don't even start me on Orkan Doc vs Raijin or a Rhino. 2) During Rogatka grind (I would like to be honest here) I was 「dookie」ty comrade at times. Hunting for weaker bots during kill tasks, not capping beacons. Or fitting entire hangar with fast bots, and suicidally capping beacons, neverminding the bollocks (I mean - enemies). That's why I was drained down to Gold2. But after the event, when I out my hangar back, it felt like sealclubbing. With my experience and lvl8-9 stuff I was winning battles with just two-three of my bots. That felt purely wrong to me, so I decided NOT to bring down my main guns into the battle. I bought Carnage, get my trophy Rog and Stalker... And soon found out that lvl5 Rog with lvl7 Tarans plus lvl8 Carnage\Thunders, and lvl5 Stalker could win almost any map, save for Yama. So I changed my hangar once more, now to bots I have no idea how to play, and stuff that is not leveled up properly. So now I am loosing almost every Yama battle, doing great at Powerplant\Deadcity, and mediocre on every other map. What I am trying to prove myself - is that War Robots is NOT a pay to win game, and with enough experience I can win against better equipped, higher level bots. And also I do not believe that WW bots are trash.. So I want to check it out for myself. Sorry for long read. That is my reasons to fight in lower leagues, temporary. I am not intend to stay here long. And I am honestly trying my best to contribute to team wins in battle.
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Post by make7upyours on May 19, 2017 17:24:28 GMT -5
For some it's to farm, but I think for most it's to indulge their ego. It's more fun to beat on low players than it is to lose to your own kind.
I gotta amend here. The results can justify the means. If you're performing well and winning, it doesn't matter if you're using lower bots.
Maybe it means you should be moving up to a higher arena...
You're playing on ios so i don't know if tanking is as big a problem as it is on android. But you staying in a lower arena when you're good enough to move on, is a disservice to your fellow players.
If your lower level bots are comparable with your peers in that trophy range, that's great. 100% cool by me. You're fighting in your range then.
But if you're winning all the time with your higher level setup and you still keep yourself in that lower trophy range, you're a great big stupidhead.
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Post by Russel on May 19, 2017 17:39:05 GMT -5
Maybe it means you should be moving up to a higher arena... You're playing on ios so i don't know if tanking is as big a problem as it is on android. But you staying in a lower arena when you're good enough to move on, is a disservice to your fellow players. If your lower level bots are comparable with your peers in that trophy range, that's great. 100% cool by me. You're fighting in your range then. But if you're winning all the time with your higher level setup and you still keep yourself in that lower trophy range, you're a great big stupidhead. I like your choice of words. No, I am not staying there, purposefully or else. I am _slowly_ upgrading my Orkans, Doc, Jesse, Aphids and Tulumbas (only got pair of 8th from RDB, another pair is a bone stock, which is no fun) Already got from G2 into G1, and moving up, pretty slow. I usually winning 6 out of 10 games, and my winrate reflects that fact. But when I'm loosing it's usually -18 points, because Jesse\Doc gets mutilated by Snipers at Yamantau\Springfield, 4 minutes tops. Now I am ~70 points from D3, so I think it's a good experience. I plan on making up my mind with these bots by the time I hit Diamond, and changing at least two of them with Rog and Carnage. Also, I got unupgraded Sniper Leo in my attic, but I feel like I'm getting great feel of a bot if I play several of them in a single battle (hello there, zealots of 4-slot-Gareth-hangar), so fitting Sniper into fast-paced hangar would do me no good.
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Post by Insane Demon on May 19, 2017 20:02:10 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why you would want to fight with a bunch of folks that are obviously weaker than you. Where is the fun in that? If people need gold this bad they are welcome to come over and mow my lawn, I will give them $20 bucks and they can go buy some gold... Or is this an affirmation of your virtual phallus size, to log into a battle, then leave, or just sit there and go make some pizza rolls while your squad fights...all in an effort to get to battle bots half your strength? Does the "L" in LQ stand for Labia? Why Labia? What's up with the casual sexism? Dredd77 told me this forum was "different" because most players are mature older guys... but the only difference is your misogyny isn't as vulgar.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 19, 2017 20:08:45 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why you would want to fight with a bunch of folks that are obviously weaker than you. Where is the fun in that? If people need gold this bad they are welcome to come over and mow my lawn, I will give them $20 bucks and they can go buy some gold... Or is this an affirmation of your virtual phallus size, to log into a battle, then leave, or just sit there and go make some pizza rolls while your squad fights...all in an effort to get to battle bots half your strength? Does the "L" in LQ stand for Labia? Why Labia? What's up with the casual sexism? Dredd77 told me this forum was "different" because most players are mature older guys... but the only difference is your misogyny isn't as vulgar. Hold my beer...
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Post by Dredd77 on May 19, 2017 20:12:38 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why you would want to fight with a bunch of folks that are obviously weaker than you. Where is the fun in that? If people need gold this bad they are welcome to come over and mow my lawn, I will give them $20 bucks and they can go buy some gold... Or is this an affirmation of your virtual phallus size, to log into a battle, then leave, or just sit there and go make some pizza rolls while your squad fights...all in an effort to get to battle bots half your strength? Does the "L" in LQ stand for Labia? You just got a forum strike, and you're damn lucky after six posts you don't get banned outright for sh1tposting. Insane Demon is absolutely a wooden spoon candidate for 2017. She and I are pretty far apart when it comes to outlooks and philosophies, and that's fine. What I'm not going to countenance is this sort of locker room chauvinist bullsh1t. It's going to end. Talk about the damn game instead of female body parts. You have a strike, SunTsu. Another offense in 30 days and you're banned a week. Another offense 30 days after your return and you're gone for good. But hey, if you know the forum and you know yourself, I guess you need not fear the outcome of a hundred bans.
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Post by SuperHero on May 19, 2017 20:35:54 GMT -5
Wooden Spoon Candidate. LOL. I forgot about that. But yes. SunTsu considering the blatant nature of how you are talking, watch what comes out of your keyboard next. If it is not an apology and is a snarky comment directed at either Dredd77 or Insane Demon , I will gladly use executive powers to perma-ban you. Insane Demon if you find anyone harassing you, there is a report the post function that alerts the mods and admins to it. Dredd77 gets a 1% warning for circumventing the profanity filter. LOL
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Post by War Child on May 19, 2017 22:13:47 GMT -5
*Currently Tanking*
FOR THE SAKE OF SCIENCE!!!
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Post by SunTsu on May 20, 2017 0:49:50 GMT -5
Sorry Insane Demon, I definitely did not mean to offend with comment, and I promise it was not intended to demean women or, more importantly, associate tankers with females. What it was intended to do (in a humorous way) was to demonstrate the mentality of people that bully others. These folks often have confidence issues...and they are typically male, and are typically interested in asserting dominance. So once again sorry about the reference, I went and read some of your posts, and I like them!
Now onto the topic of asserting dominance...Yes I only have 6 posts (this is kinda like the tanking phallus thing I was talking about, but in this case apparently it's post count...), and I understand being a mod is a thankless task, but if you come on with the ultra dominant, perma-ban, watch what you type, book burning, fascist threats, then you will ultimately end up with a board full of drooling sycophants that only agree with what you say and have no original opinions or discussions.
It's certainly your prerogative to ban me from the board, and believe it or not I appreciate the policing of offensive content so I won't take it personal.
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Post by 0ppressor on May 20, 2017 1:07:09 GMT -5
Sorry Insane Demon, I definitely did not mean to offend with comment, and I promise it was not intended to demean women or, more importantly, associate tankers with females. What it was intended to do (in a humorous way) was to demonstrate the mentality of people that bully others. These folks often have confidence issues...and they are typically male, and are typically interested in asserting dominance. So once again sorry about the reference, I went and read some of your posts, and I like them! Now onto the topic of asserting dominance...Yes I only have 6 posts (this is kinda like the tanking phallus thing I was talking about, but in this case apparently it's post count...), and I understand being a mod is a thankless task, but if you come on with the ultra dominant, perma-ban, watch what you type, book burning, fascist threats, then you will ultimately end up with a board full of drooling sycophants that only agree with what you say and have no original opinions or discussions. It's certainly your prerogative to ban me from the board, and believe it or not I appreciate the policing of offensive content so I won't take it personal. Zentraedi Officer Pod Or Marauder Really important answer in deciding whether I like you or not
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Post by Russel on May 20, 2017 1:47:24 GMT -5
Wow, this thread is getting more and more exciting
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Post by SunTsu on May 20, 2017 2:00:49 GMT -5
That is most definitely a Maurader!
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Post by 0ppressor on May 20, 2017 2:18:51 GMT -5
That is most definitely a Maurader! Darn shame.
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Post by Russel on May 20, 2017 2:47:36 GMT -5
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Post by 0ppressor on May 20, 2017 3:25:51 GMT -5
Super Dimension Fortress Macross came out in 1982.
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Post by Russel on May 20, 2017 3:33:30 GMT -5
Super Dimension Fortress Macross came out in 1982. Yep, and I actually remember seeing it while I was a kid. Just don't remember anything but a great white robo-plane.
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Post by 0ppressor on May 20, 2017 3:37:53 GMT -5
Super Dimension Fortress Macross came out in 1982. Yep, and I actually remember seeing it while I was a kid. Just don't remember anything but a great white robo-plane. I used to wake up early to watch it. I then remember being stateside and trying to record Robotech on VHS, back when a remote control for your VHS player was a corded flip switch between pause and rec. I also played it (Robotech) and Rifts in the Palladium Multiverse.
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Post by Russel on May 20, 2017 3:44:13 GMT -5
Yep, and I actually remember seeing it while I was a kid. Just don't remember anything but a great white robo-plane. I used to wake up early to watch it. I then remember being stateside and trying to record Robotech on VHS, back when a remote control for your VHS player was a corded flip switch between pause and rec. I also played it (Robotech) and Rifts in the Palladium Multiverse. Well, you were a lucky kid. I watched this cartoon on same television set as this back then (and mind you, it was pretty luxurious model back then):
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Post by SunTsu on May 20, 2017 8:22:39 GMT -5
Don't want to derail, but that most definitely did not originate with robotech that's straight Mech Warrior from the original D&D style board game.
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Post by 0ppressor on May 20, 2017 9:37:02 GMT -5
I used to wake up early to watch it. I then remember being stateside and trying to record Robotech on VHS, back when a remote control for your VHS player was a corded flip switch between pause and rec. I also played it (Robotech) and Rifts in the Palladium Multiverse. Well, you were a lucky kid. I watched this cartoon on same television set as this back then (and mind you, it was pretty luxurious model back then): Oh I believe you. Console TVs were the TV standard I remember growing up:
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on May 20, 2017 9:40:29 GMT -5
That is most definitely a Maurader! Battletech > Macross 8which I actually love as well) any time.
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Post by 0ppressor on May 20, 2017 9:42:00 GMT -5
Don't want to derail, but that most definitely did not originate with robotech that's straight Mech Warrior from the original D&D style board game. They licensed the image, along with Zues (Bioroid), Warhammer (Destroid) and LAMS (Veritechs) from Studio Nue. They did not create them. They were already created. ETA: most forgot Archer (Destroid) and Rifleman (Destroid)
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Post by 0ppressor on May 20, 2017 9:42:43 GMT -5
That is most definitely a Maurader! Battletech > Macross 8which I actually love as well) any time. I liked Battletech as well, but it was never as good ETA: Battletech had the advantage of better videogames, Macross and Robotech games never made it stateside, save a few, that sucked. Clans ruined Battletech though.
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Post by Russel on May 20, 2017 10:32:36 GMT -5
Battletech > Macross 8which I actually love as well) any time. I liked Battletech as well, but it was never as good :p ETA: Battletech had the advantage of better videogames, Macross and Robotech games never made it stateside, save a few, that sucked. Clans ruined Battletech though. I never dig the whole "clans" concept. For me the best one was "Mercenaries", it could replicate idea of original "Mechwarrior" good enough for me. Choosing which task to run for, trading, buying robot parts, and all these missions where you are limited to equipment you brought along in the shuttle.. Very nice. Ha! I know why I love Cossack so much. It is a Locust in disguise! Oh my, I just embarrased myself - it's a Jenner! My first battle robot ever.
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Post by Russel on May 20, 2017 10:37:43 GMT -5
Btw, even though I like where is this discussion headed, I think Dredd_77 should ban all of us.
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Post by lilryry on May 20, 2017 10:56:21 GMT -5
Funny how butt hurt so many people that would never even consider tanking to the LQ get about the LQ people getting rewards...get over yourself, it doesn't effect you at all. My matches have been infinitely better in LQ since I dropped there for the event so I would have a prayer of progressing through it without the mm constantly fighting against me. I know pix is going to lower rewards in LQ which is whatever although I do average 60-100 gold per hour which will be missed but I'm sure everyone will move on to the new exploit. Tankers aren't ruining this game, people that think pix can code in a solution to force people to play a certain way however are...
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Post by 0ppressor on May 20, 2017 11:11:38 GMT -5
Btw, even though I like where is this discussion headed, I think Dredd_77 should ban all of us. Agreed with Mercenaries, but
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