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Post by Redfiend on Jul 15, 2021 9:49:36 GMT -5
So, the Arachnos has a starting HP of 24k and it's the slowest mech in the game. Suddenly, I'm not that interested anymore! But, if I finish the Derby and get it for free, why not, I'll give a spin and see if it's worth leveling up. I haven't looked at the progressions of existing mechs to compare it, but it does start at 3 Stars... what does that compare to as far as existing mechs? 32 EN max(attacker) Same HP as Panther, Zephyr and Killshot Same speed as brickhouse. Turret does less damage per bullet than Autocannon 4 at base level. |
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 15, 2021 9:53:38 GMT -5
So, the Arachnos has a starting HP of 24k and it's the slowest mech in the game. Suddenly, I'm not that interested anymore! But, if I finish the Derby and get it for free, why not, I'll give a spin and see if it's worth leveling up. Well, it's free, and unless you were planning on spending thousands of dollars worth of coins to rush upgrade it, it isn't catching up to the rest of your stuff anyway, so 🤷🏽♂️ |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 15, 2021 9:59:30 GMT -5
Looks like it's right below Guardian in terms of HP. About 4k less in terms of starting HP. Fully leveled, it should be pretty tanky.
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 15, 2021 10:01:27 GMT -5
Looks like it's right below Guardian in terms of HP. About 4k less in terms of starting HP. Fully leveled, it should be pretty tanky. Guardian gets more HP as it levels up. It's the same HP pool as panther, killshot, and Zephyr. Every mech seems to have recieved 10-15K more health than it's previous max. |
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 15, 2021 10:03:16 GMT -5
So, the Arachnos has a starting HP of 24k and it's the slowest mech in the game. Suddenly, I'm not that interested anymore! But, if I finish the Derby and get it for free, why not, I'll give a spin and see if it's worth leveling up. I won't kick it out of bed if she's free either. I'll give it a whirl, though I'm not sure I want to go any slower. I am already losing games because I'm forcing myself to not use 2 KSs in anticipation of the Twin Culling of 2021. Not enough hanger speed. May have to go with the Shadow eventually. |
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Post by OU812? on Jul 15, 2021 10:23:46 GMT -5
Looks like it's right below Guardian in terms of HP. About 4k less in terms of starting HP. Fully leveled, it should be pretty tanky. I’m thinking they’ll be some strategies to the new bot. We’re not going to run around and chase stuff down with it but a MD (etc.) and an Arachnos could hold a beacon or choke point on the map. Might make for some interesting CPC moments. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 15, 2021 10:26:19 GMT -5
I haven't looked at the progressions of existing mechs to compare it, but it does start at 3 Stars... what does that compare to as far as existing mechs? 32 EN max(attacker) Same HP as Panther, Zephyr and Killshot Same speed as brickhouse. Turret does less damage per bullet than Autocannon 4 at base level.Yuck... what's the Turret's HP? |
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 15, 2021 10:28:21 GMT -5
Doesn't say, but probably not much. We'll know when we get it. It's free afterall lol
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 15, 2021 10:33:32 GMT -5
32 EN max(attacker) Same HP as Panther, Zephyr and Killshot Same speed as brickhouse. Turret does less damage per bullet than Autocannon 4 at base level.Yuck... what's the Turret's HP? I'm sure the turret will benefit most from firing from the flanks. I'm already thinking of many locations where I could put it so it wouldn't get noticed until too late. The main mech or group of mechs would be the focus while the cannon hits from the side or behind.  |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 15, 2021 10:39:25 GMT -5
Yuck... what's the Turret's HP? I'm sure the turret will benefit most from firing from the flanks. I'm already thinking of many locations where I could put it so it wouldn't get noticed until too late. The main mech or group of mechs would be the focus while the cannon hits from the side or behind. Yeah I am sure we can find uses... but sub AC4 base damage is pretty bad. BUT, if it doesn't ever reload, and you can place it and then walk off... it def can still have uses. Plenty of places in this week's Tourney map set that could benefit... and CPC maps, in general, have a lot of places to use it.
Having 2 or 3 active on one team at the same time might be interesting... especially in TDM... defense zones could be set up to entirely protect a flank while serving as a tripwire... hmmm.
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 15, 2021 10:41:26 GMT -5
I'm sure the turret will benefit most from firing from the flanks. I'm already thinking of many locations where I could put it so it wouldn't get noticed until too late. The main mech or group of mechs would be the focus while the cannon hits from the side or behind. Yeah I am sure we can find uses... but sub AC4 base damage is pretty bad. BUT, if it doesn't ever reload, and you can place it and then walk off... it def can still have uses. Plenty of places in this week's Tourney map set that could benefit... and CPC maps, in general, have a lot of places to use it.
Having 2 or 3 active on one team at the same time might be interesting... especially in TDM... defense zones could be set up to entirely protect a flank while serving as a tripwire... hmmm.
It can be totally psycological too. "HOW MANY MECHS DO THEY HAVE??? I'M GETTING SHOT FROM EVERYWHERE!!!" lol |
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 15, 2021 10:43:37 GMT -5
I'm sure the turret will benefit most from firing from the flanks. I'm already thinking of many locations where I could put it so it wouldn't get noticed until too late. The main mech or group of mechs would be the focus while the cannon hits from the side or behind. Yeah I am sure we can find uses... but sub AC4 base damage is pretty bad. BUT, if it doesn't ever reload, and you can place it and then walk off... it def can still have uses. Plenty of places in this week's Tourney map set that could benefit... and CPC maps, in general, have a lot of places to use it.
Having 2 or 3 active on one team at the same time might be interesting... especially in TDM... defense zones could be set up to entirely protect a flank while serving as a tripwire... hmmm.
3 spiders, 2 Zephyrs or Guardians defending them. Pain. The turret has a range of 30M. Until it fires for 10 seconds, the Arachnos that deployed it deploys a new one, or it or the Arachnos die, it sticks around. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 15, 2021 11:03:31 GMT -5
Yeah I am sure we can find uses... but sub AC4 base damage is pretty bad. BUT, if it doesn't ever reload, and you can place it and then walk off... it def can still have uses. Plenty of places in this week's Tourney map set that could benefit... and CPC maps, in general, have a lot of places to use it.
Having 2 or 3 active on one team at the same time might be interesting... especially in TDM... defense zones could be set up to entirely protect a flank while serving as a tripwire... hmmm.
3 spiders, 2 Zephyrs or Guardians defending them. Pain. The turret has a range of 30M. Until it fires for 10 seconds, the Arachnos that deployed it deploys a new one, or it or the Arachnos die, it sticks around. Ahhh... I missed that it will expire after 10 seconds of firing... I don't find that as appealing. Let me set and forget it if it does that little damage. However, until I can either play against it or get one and try it out, it's all just speculation anyway. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 15, 2021 11:33:15 GMT -5
I think the Arachnos is underpowered. If it could deploy more than one turret at a time, at least two maybe 3, then it would be a force to be reckoned with. Who knows, maybe when you rank it up, you get another turret? That would be cool.
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Post by punishingcossack on Jul 15, 2021 12:21:14 GMT -5
the arachnos is almost certainly not gonna be top tier. it's available to the masses...
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Post by dukeofadvil on Jul 15, 2021 12:47:51 GMT -5
Wish we could work ahead on earning the achievement. Day one is done, with time to spare, but i do not always have the same amount of time on the weekends
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 15, 2021 13:17:19 GMT -5
the arachnos is almost certainly not gonna be top tier. it's available to the masses... Like the Surge...  but your point is taken and I agree. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 15, 2021 13:36:33 GMT -5
Wish we could work ahead on earning the achievement. Day one is done, with time to spare, but i do not always have the same amount of time on the weekends Yeah, me too...my weekends are mostly away from screens. Well, we only have to do one of the days, either Sat or Sun...guess I'm waking up early on Sat! |
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Jul 15, 2021 14:22:49 GMT -5
Do the Day task go away when the next starts? I have a feeling you can still do day 1 tasks in day 2.. you just cant start day 2 until the timer kicks it off. we will know in < 9 hrs.
So may not be horrible if you miss a day you may just have 40 tasks to aim for.
I'm curious what the other days will be.. I really hope there are not bot specific ones ..
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Post by dukeofadvil on Jul 15, 2021 14:28:34 GMT -5
Do the Day task go away when the next starts? I have a feeling you can still do day 1 tasks in day 2.. you just cant start day 2 until the timer kicks it off. we will know in < 9 hrs. So may not be horrible if you miss a day you may just have 40 tasks to aim for. I'm curious what the other days will be.. I really hope there are not bot specific ones .. i hate bot specific tasks....cap 15 beacons with Brickhouse.... |
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 15, 2021 15:09:59 GMT -5
Do the Day task go away when the next starts? I have a feeling you can still do day 1 tasks in day 2.. you just cant start day 2 until the timer kicks it off. we will know in < 9 hrs. So may not be horrible if you miss a day you may just have 40 tasks to aim for. I'm curious what the other days will be.. I really hope there are not bot specific ones .. i hate bot specific tasks....cap 15 beacons with Brickhouse.... And the one you're REALLY looking forward to..."kill 30 robots with Arachnos's turret" Bwahahahaha! |
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Post by dukeofadvil on Jul 15, 2021 15:16:22 GMT -5
i hate bot specific tasks....cap 15 beacons with Brickhouse.... And the one you're REALLY looking forward to..."kill 30 robots with Arachnos's turret" Bwahahahaha! That will be the next event to get the disk launcher. |
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 15, 2021 15:21:31 GMT -5
And the one you're REALLY looking forward to..."kill 30 robots with Arachnos's turret" Bwahahahaha! That will be the next event to get the disk launcher. Say it ain't so...  |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 15, 2021 15:25:38 GMT -5
I'm hoping that as long as I don't have those mechs, I won't get those mech specific tasks!
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 15, 2021 20:35:23 GMT -5
Wish we could work ahead on earning the achievement. Day one is done, with time to spare, but i do not always have the same amount of time on the weekends There will be a 48 hour grace period after the day 7 tasks are released. |
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Jul 16, 2021 14:08:12 GMT -5
Welp.. here are some bot tasks.... Hopefully they dont do some for mechs I dont own.. They may as well just show what there is to complete for all the days, didnt realize the other side of the pond is actually seeing these thing already.. duh...   |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 17, 2021 8:16:01 GMT -5
Yeah, today's tasks were pretty easy. I did the Panther one pretty fast because if you spawn two Panthers in a game, that counts as two for the task. I thought the Capture 4 CPs meant getting Under the Radar, but it really was just capping 4 for the whole game.
4 more days before we get the Arachnos and I don't even know if it's worth it anymore. Do we even know what the max EN is anymore? They said 24EN before, but that was before the EN buff for 24EN mechs to 32EN, and they did say that the Arachnos would be getting one of the highest EN in the game.
If the max is 24, then I might try it with dual RM24 one day but if it's 32EN, then it might be a decent RG16 platform. Slow and steady means more shots on target. Also, can use the spider drone as a quasi shield...anyone know the HP of the drone?
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 17, 2021 11:14:23 GMT -5
Yeah, today's tasks were pretty easy. I did the Panther one pretty fast because if you spawn two Panthers in a game, that counts as two for the task. I thought the Capture 4 CPs meant getting Under the Radar, but it really was just capping 4 for the whole game. 4 more days before we get the Arachnos and I don't even know if it's worth it anymore. Do we even know what the max EN is anymore? They said 24EN before, but that was before the EN buff for 24EN mechs to 32EN, and they did say that the Arachnos would be getting one of the highest EN in the game. If the max is 24, then I might try it with dual RM24 one day but if it's 32EN, then it might be a decent RG16 platform. Slow and steady means more shots on target. Also, can use the spider drone as a quasi shield...anyone know the HP of the drone? Can't know the turrets health without having the mech in hand. Very likely it's under 10K, and anything substantial will kill it. It's an attacker, so it will have 32 EN max. It's free, and you're not going to have the BP to get it anywhere substantial for a looooong time, so I'd say treat it like Redox and Surge, fun side projects, unless you hit the lotto. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jul 17, 2021 13:46:02 GMT -5
Yeah, today's tasks were pretty easy. I did the Panther one pretty fast because if you spawn two Panthers in a game, that counts as two for the task. I thought the Capture 4 CPs meant getting Under the Radar, but it really was just capping 4 for the whole game. 4 more days before we get the Arachnos and I don't even know if it's worth it anymore. Do we even know what the max EN is anymore? They said 24EN before, but that was before the EN buff for 24EN mechs to 32EN, and they did say that the Arachnos would be getting one of the highest EN in the game. If the max is 24, then I might try it with dual RM24 one day but if it's 32EN, then it might be a decent RG16 platform. Slow and steady means more shots on target. Also, can use the spider drone as a quasi shield...anyone know the HP of the drone? Can't know the turrets health without having the mech in hand. Very likely it's under 10K, and anything substantial will kill it. It's an attacker, so it will have 32 EN max. It's free, and you're not going to have the BP to get it anywhere substantial for a looooong time, so I'd say treat it like Redox and Surge, fun side projects, unless you hit the lotto. Yep, I’m playing just enough games to kill all the challenge tasks so I can get one. Not planning on slamming it into service, though it won’t be coming down the chute much lower than any of my other mechs, so I could if the mood strikes me. Absolute worst case for the folks that are way farther along than me is it sits idle in the garage until you get special tasks for it. I’ll most likely take it for a spin (like every other player will in a few days) and see if it’s worth getting the upgrade love before anything else. I’m about a day away from enough credits to grab an Ares, so maybe I’ll play this 4-legger as my 3rd mech until I get Ares up to R4. Or I’ll press Ares straight into service as is … who the hell knows what kind of mood I’ll be in that day. |
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 17, 2021 14:55:36 GMT -5
Yep, I’m playing just enough games to kill all the challenge tasks so I can get one. Not planning on slamming it into service, though it won’t be coming down the chute much lower than any of my other mechs, so I could if the mood strikes me. Absolute worst case for the folks that are way farther along than me is it sits idle in the garage until you get special tasks for it. I’ll most likely take it for a spin (like every other player will in a few days) and see if it’s worth getting the upgrade love before anything else. I’m about a day away from enough credits to grab an Ares, so maybe I’ll play this 4-legger as my 3rd mech until I get Ares up to R4. Or I’ll press Ares straight into service as is … who the hell knows what kind of mood I’ll be in that day. If nothing else, it's a free heavy newbies can use without investing coins to obtain(Panther/Guardian). At worst, it's a wallflower that only fat wallets will have at a sizable level anytime soon. Even with the latter, I consider being killed by wallet warrior mechs a preview of performance that doesn't cost me a penny. With the new EN cap changes, I really don't see running 2 heavy mechs as viable for anyone that isn't in the first stretch of top tier (low R6), because weapons are scarce for 20+ power. 2/2/1: Light/Medium/Heavy seems to be the optimal route for a 5 mech hangar for anyone not solidly planted in the upper echelons. Any other split will be under-armed until the high rank/EN weapons are duplicated, and even then, the only symmetrical 24/32 combos are Stasis(12/16), Carb 12, Rocket Mortars, and Railgun. 2 mediums geared up with thanos builds seems like it would be more effective than a single dual Railgun mech. But yea, 3 heavies is pretty much out. 3+ mediums is out unless one is willing to run carb, stasis, and Mortars in a single hangar, and light mechs seem to be the only category that's favored for how weapons are hashed out. Light mechs, of course, still cost more coins to rank up than the other weight classes. With weapon limitations where they currently are, it feels like a soft way of implementing what BoT did with hangars having limitations based on the weight classes of mechs. |
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