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Post by dukeofadvil on Jul 7, 2021 6:47:02 GMT -5
  So what are your options, I know it is hard to judge without seeing it in action, but Ill consider it for my 5th slot if it pans out. Im not a fan of the idea of any mech over 24 energy, which is hinted on this new bot, but the ability is interesting. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 7, 2021 7:27:09 GMT -5
I love the look! I'm glad I have some A-coins saved up. I don't think it will be a 24EN mech even though I hope it is. Judging from the promo pic, I'm guessing it'll be a support mech with either 12EN or 18EN. If it's a support mech, it'll likely be 18EN even though it's pictured with Plasma Cannons.
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 7, 2021 8:15:34 GMT -5
I love the look! I'm glad I have some A-coins saved up. I don't think it will be a 24EN mech even though I hope it is. Judging from the promo pic, I'm guessing it'll be a support mech with either 12EN or 18EN. If it's a support mech, it'll likely be 18EN even though it's pictured with Plasma Cannons. They advertised it as "highest energy in the game", so it will be 24 unless they went out of their way to add a UI element for the sentry turret to use a regular weapon. It better be slow as dirt, or squishy. Else it may cause problems. As long as Guardian and Redox can blink the turret out of existence, it shouldn't be that bad. I see it being more annoying than broken, especially if the turret damage isn't ridiculous. Like Cheetah mines. |
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 7, 2021 8:18:21 GMT -5
If they do anything that outright breaks balance, like introduce higher EN cap mechs, I'm out. Nothing should be able to carry a weapon stronger than 8 cost if they're using Stasis 16 or RG.
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Post by dukeofadvil on Jul 7, 2021 8:19:25 GMT -5
I love the look! I'm glad I have some A-coins saved up. I don't think it will be a 24EN mech even though I hope it is. Judging from the promo pic, I'm guessing it'll be a support mech with either 12EN or 18EN. If it's a support mech, it'll likely be 18EN even though it's pictured with Plasma Cannons. They advertised it as "highest energy in the game", so it will be 24 unless they went out of their way to add a UI element for the sentry turret to use a regular weapon. It better be slow as dirt, or squishy. Else it may cause problems. As long as Guardian and Redox can blink the turret out of existence, it shouldn't be that bad. I see it being more annoying than broken, especially if the turret damage isn't ridiculous. Like Cheetah mines. im hoping Mechs never get above 24 energy. Yeah the spider turret will probably be more annoying than dangerous....like Cheetah mines, not much more than dog turds when it comes down to it. |
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 7, 2021 8:39:48 GMT -5
dukeofadvil They said it will be destructible. If that means we can target it, I forsee Railgun taking a bit of a hit in efficacy. If both of a loadouts weapons do 10+K with limited ammo and long cooldowns, hitting the little spider decoy is going to massively cut into the DPM of weapons with strong single shots.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 7, 2021 9:18:16 GMT -5
I said it before in a previous thread. As long as the spider drone thing is targetable, I will be happy. Having it targetable works both ways. You can use it defensively to draw fire away, or if I were the enemy, I can destroy the pesky thing that is pinging my HP if it gets annoying. I agree with everyone else. It should only be more than 24EN if some of that capacity is in the drone. That way, the drone can carry regular mech weapons, like maybe up to 4EN or something low like that.
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 7, 2021 9:37:43 GMT -5
Can you imagine a turret placed around a corner with a 4 EN shotgun?!? This is going to be fun, if I get one. If it's slow and 24 EN, then I see this being the ideal RM12 platform along with the Redox possibly. Both would have ways to mitgate the short range attack deficit.
That said, I want one if it can climb! I loved the Nelly in BoT and would play it even if it was at a disadvantage because of how much fun climbing is. lol
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 7, 2021 11:22:10 GMT -5
I'm tired of spider bots being slow. If you think about it, quad leg mechs should be fast and stable platforms. The spider bots in War Robots are all so slow that I never got into them - except for the Raijin of course.
But, as long as it's not slower than the Jugg, I think I would be ok with that. I too would love it to have 24EN. That way, I can shelve one of my Guardians or even run a full 5 mech 24EN hangar just for laughs.
As for gear, I can certainly see it being a good RM12 platform. Use the drone as a guard and move around lobbing rockets. I can also see it being a decent Thanos build or even a MR8/RG16 build. I guess it all depends on how well it performs/moves.
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 7, 2021 12:00:04 GMT -5
I'm tired of spider bots being slow. If you think about it, quad leg mechs should be fast and stable platforms. The spider bots in War Robots are all so slow that I never got into them - except for the Raijin of course. But, as long as it's not slower than the Jugg, I think I would be ok with that. I too would love it to have 24EN. That way, I can shelve one of my Guardians or even run a full 5 mech 24EN hangar just for laughs. As for gear, I can certainly see it being a good RM12 platform. Use the drone as a guard and move around lobbing rockets. I can also see it being a decent Thanos build or even a MR8/RG16 build. I guess it all depends on how well it performs/moves. AND CLIMBING!!! IT MUST CLIMB!!! DON'T FORGET IT SHOULD CLIMB!!! |
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 7, 2021 12:40:50 GMT -5
I'm tired of spider bots being slow. If you think about it, quad leg mechs should be fast and stable platforms. The spider bots in War Robots are all so slow that I never got into them - except for the Raijin of course. But, as long as it's not slower than the Jugg, I think I would be ok with that. I too would love it to have 24EN. That way, I can shelve one of my Guardians or even run a full 5 mech 24EN hangar just for laughs. As for gear, I can certainly see it being a good RM12 platform. Use the drone as a guard and move around lobbing rockets. I can also see it being a decent Thanos build or even a MR8/RG16 build. I guess it all depends on how well it performs/moves. AND CLIMBING!!! IT MUST CLIMB!!! DON'T FORGET IT SHOULD CLIMB!!! Too many sheer vertical surfaces. Doubt it'll be able to climb. Navigating walls with the BoT spider Titans is a pretty 「dookie」ty experience anyway. Also, this thing is giving me mini-Sentry flashbacks from when I played TF2. If it's even half decent, it will probably be the first mech I add to my arsenal after getting the starters to R6. I can only play fast and loose, or patient, methodical, and abusive. Anything too solidly planted in the middle that sucks at both, doesn't really do it for me. Kinda why I think Redox and Surge are meh, even though I know that they can be extremely effective when used properly. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jul 7, 2021 14:16:50 GMT -5
I’ll reserve judgment until I see it in action, but only because they haven’t really broken anything yet with new releases. Can’t say I’m looking forward to it though, because too much W R PTSD.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 7, 2021 15:06:32 GMT -5
Well, I'm excited for new content. I wasn't too happy about the Arc Torrent weapons - though they have their fans. I wasn't exited about Surge or Redox (still love the Redox look but it moves like a whale), so I'm really hoping I'll like this new mech. Saving all my A-coins cause I have a feeling it will be an A-coin mech.
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Jul 7, 2021 15:24:47 GMT -5
is it here yet.... how about now.... now??
sitting on 13k acoins is killing me.. no worries sitting on 2m credits too... but weren't they going to make this obtainable by an event or something when first talked about?
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Post by punishingcossack on Jul 7, 2021 16:26:48 GMT -5
Well, I'm excited for new content. I wasn't too happy about the Arc Torrent weapons - though they have their fans. I wasn't exited about Surge or Redox (still love the Redox look but it moves like a whale), so I'm really hoping I'll like this new mech. Saving all my A-coins cause I have a feeling it will be an A-coin mech. try the arc10 on a zephyr, or a KS in a squad on squad battle (particularly CPC) |
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Post by reconnecting on Jul 7, 2021 18:38:44 GMT -5
I liked the War Robots spider bots, Fujin in particular as I had two. I also used to love machine gun tripods in the old N64 Goldeneye game. So this just might rock. We shall wait and see. I'm mostly leveling stuff I have especially Zephyr. Liking that bot a lot even with MR 6s. Plarium is keeping things interesting at least.  |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 7, 2021 20:27:28 GMT -5
Well, I'm excited for new content. I wasn't too happy about the Arc Torrent weapons - though they have their fans. I wasn't exited about Surge or Redox (still love the Redox look but it moves like a whale), so I'm really hoping I'll like this new mech. Saving all my A-coins cause I have a feeling it will be an A-coin mech. try the arc10 on a zephyr, or a KS in a squad on squad battle (particularly CPC) Not gonna spend any resources on the AT10 at this point. When the weapons first came out, I went the AT6 route to try on a Shadow. Didn't work too good. I'm just gonna keep hoarding my A-coins until the new mech comes out. I have enough weapons to deck it out. |
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Post by OU812? on Jul 7, 2021 20:35:40 GMT -5
try the arc10 on a zephyr, or a KS in a squad on squad battle (particularly CPC) Not gonna spend any resources on the AT10 at this point. When the weapons first came out, I went the AT6 route to try on a Shadow. Didn't work too good. I'm just gonna keep hoarding my A-coins until the new mech comes out. I have enough weapons to deck it out. Ugg. I got the AT6 as well and was met with disappointment. Mine are still relatively low-ranked, but I just can’t see any reason to upgrade them. I’m sure I’ll be disappointed. |
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Post by punishingcossack on Jul 7, 2021 22:11:25 GMT -5
try the arc10 on a zephyr, or a KS in a squad on squad battle (particularly CPC) Not gonna spend any resources on the AT10 at this point. When the weapons first came out, I went the AT6 route to try on a Shadow. Didn't work too good. I'm just gonna keep hoarding my A-coins until the new mech comes out. I have enough weapons to deck it out. arc10 is very good. As for whether or not it's absolutely necessary, if you're a heavy zephyr user, then 100% yes it is I'm also going the hoarding route at the moment |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 8, 2021 7:29:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I've shelved my Zephyr for now. I might bring it out again someday when I need a change.
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 8, 2021 7:33:47 GMT -5
Not gonna spend any resources on the AT10 at this point. When the weapons first came out, I went the AT6 route to try on a Shadow. Didn't work too good. I'm just gonna keep hoarding my A-coins until the new mech comes out. I have enough weapons to deck it out. Ugg. I got the AT6 as well and was met with disappointment. Mine are still relatively low-ranked, but I just can’t see any reason to upgrade them. I’m sure I’ll be disappointed. R5 Adds 6M max range, 3m optimal range. Doesn't seem like a lot, but it is. |
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 8, 2021 9:29:33 GMT -5
Ugg. I got the AT6 as well and was met with disappointment. Mine are still relatively low-ranked, but I just can’t see any reason to upgrade them. I’m sure I’ll be disappointed. R5 Adds 6M max range, 3m optimal range. Doesn't seem like a lot, but it is. This is exactly right. I love this thing and the extra 6 meters is often the difference between a kill and an assist. Between an EMP and survival. Just outside the kill zone. It takes it from being a great specialized weapon, to something somehow much more versital. |
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Post by OU812? on Jul 8, 2021 11:39:56 GMT -5
R5 Adds 6M max range, 3m optimal range. Doesn't seem like a lot, but it is. This is exactly right. I love this thing and the extra 6 meters is often the difference between a kill and an assist. Between an EMP and survival. Just outside the kill zone. It takes it from being a great specialized weapon, to something somehow much more versital. Thanks both of you for sharing that insight. I may have to try them out again. I’d hoped they’d complement a second Shadow I’m intent on acquiring. Someday… |
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 8, 2021 20:06:56 GMT -5
This is exactly right. I love this thing and the extra 6 meters is often the difference between a kill and an assist. Between an EMP and survival. Just outside the kill zone. It takes it from being a great specialized weapon, to something somehow much more versital. Thanks both of you for sharing that insight. I may have to try them out again. I’d hoped they’d complement a second Shadow I’m intent on acquiring. Someday… Realistically, with the achievement system being what it is, it's generally better to invest in all of the weapons that are required for achievements first. There's at least some return on investment there, and it covers all of the bases in terms of range. Arc Torrent is a side-grade to other weapons that function similarly. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 9, 2021 7:20:11 GMT -5
Well, I'm excited for new content. I wasn't too happy about the Arc Torrent weapons - though they have their fans. I wasn't exited about Surge or Redox (still love the Redox look but it moves like a whale), so I'm really hoping I'll like this new mech. Saving all my A-coins cause I have a feeling it will be an A-coin mech. try the arc10 on a zephyr, or a KS in a squad on squad battle (particularly CPC) This...^
Arc 6 is NOT Arc 10. It only took a few games to decide to copy it.
I even like it on a Tank on the right map... Hell, if I had a BH I would use it on that, too... *shudder.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 9, 2021 7:30:04 GMT -5
I don't disagree that a leveled AT10 would be brutal. I got cornered by a Zep the other day and my Guardian went down pretty fast. I just hate that limited range thing and the fact that you can fire the weapon even if you're not in range, so you lose potential damage. I'm just not going to invest in it for now cause I'm hoarding my A-coins for the new Arachnos.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 9, 2021 7:47:24 GMT -5
BTW - Thumbs up from me so far... at least, for the concept. I want it. (even if it doesn't climb  ) |
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 9, 2021 8:22:46 GMT -5
I don't disagree that a leveled AT10 would be brutal. I got cornered by a Zep the other day and my Guardian went down pretty fast. I just hate that limited range thing and the fact that you can fire the weapon even if you're not in range, so you lose potential damage. I'm just not going to invest in it for now cause I'm hoarding my A-coins for the new Arachnos. This is my button setup. On asymmetrical loadouts I keep the weapon that I would want to fire by itself in the left slot. Helps me keep Overheat up throughout the entire duration of Stasis fire, and allows me to strip shields with Carb 10 before firing off MR8.  Edit: Overheat lasts for 3 seconds, so it has to be built up again if Thermal Lance hits it's hard reload for being completely empty. BUT it only takes 1 tick of damage from thermal lance to refresh the 3 second timer on overheat's duration while overheat is active. So, when TL gets down to about 20-25%, I'll solo fire the Stasis beam, tap fire "fire all" to reset the overheat timer, and repeat. I'll go back to constant fire if the TL gets above 50% charge. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 15, 2021 8:02:53 GMT -5
So, the Arachnos has a starting HP of 24k and it's the slowest mech in the game. Suddenly, I'm not that interested anymore! But, if I finish the Derby and get it for free, why not, I'll give a spin and see if it's worth leveling up.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 15, 2021 9:11:48 GMT -5
So, the Arachnos has a starting HP of 24k and it's the slowest mech in the game. Suddenly, I'm not that interested anymore! But, if I finish the Derby and get it for free, why not, I'll give a spin and see if it's worth leveling up. I haven't looked at the progressions of existing mechs to compare it, but it does start at 3 Stars... what does that compare to as far as existing mechs? |
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