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Post by WE034 on Nov 14, 2016 11:55:13 GMT -5
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Post by SuperHero on Nov 14, 2016 12:47:23 GMT -5
No... the mag gep craze was around before MSK.
I was running mag geps and rogs even before the clan update. And before the clan update, the old timer clans played mainly in gold. What they did was to platoon with them to the point where the crushed the red team so fast and the move onto the the next match. FAST wins, trophies streak around, next match. It was effective to get trophy counts up as a clan.
The OP's original photo showed 4/10. That is still low silver. And is the place the mag gep thrives most.
And RUIN has not been around "since the game started". Before they did this, MSK were doing it. And after MSK, NM were doing it. And in all 3 cases, the only reason they are top is because they grind most of the trophies in silver by clubbing, instead of slogging it out with the players in the gold tier. There is nothing "tops" about being number one of the corpses of silver and bronze players. Why do you think most of the gold clans are not bothered about number one? Because the current system is not a true reflection of skill or even teamwork. That's why the clans like VOX and Chromehounds are still prestigious despite not even being in the top 10.
COs grinding trophies doesn't make you the best. It just means ur the most active
So don't go calling others hacks when you yourself don't even know your own history.
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Post by BooBooKitty on Nov 14, 2016 13:18:02 GMT -5
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Post by WE034 on Nov 14, 2016 13:24:33 GMT -5
Not that cool yet... gimme time...? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 15:01:03 GMT -5
Gotta love clans. Strayed, you forgot Cesium and Cobalt (my personal favorite - the color of course  ) |
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Post by Strayed on Nov 14, 2016 16:23:05 GMT -5
Great! Now do a version with the Trident Fury! |
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Post by Strayed on Nov 14, 2016 16:23:44 GMT -5
Gotta love clans. Strayed, you forgot Cesium and Cobalt (my personal favorite - the color of course ) Lol, did you find out the hidden joke? |
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Post by Boofles on Nov 14, 2016 17:20:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I joined them because they took me in basically, trying to find people to play with. I've come to realize that all of them use the same tactic, mag geps and taran rogs. It's though but sometimes the "if you cant beat them, join them" thing is what you have to do  Then why are you complaining about it? That's not showing any loyalty to your Clan. If you don't like that style of play you should leave. With the new squad systems you can make friends to squad with. RUIN is a Silver Tier Clan that Plays with Geparads and other bots. The Players they play against should have experience by this point. RUIN doesn't intentionally go out to Beat Down on new players. Sure they are Farming Gold Cup [hot stuff]s learning to play as a team and having a good time doing it I'm sure. If you really can't beat and join them you should join RUIN they are a top ranked Clan and RUIN has been around for a while since the game started. From what I've seen of Gargoyles they're a bunch of hacks anyways trying to mimic what RUIN started. Uh, please don't get sidetracked, this rant is about any mag/aphid geps not RUIN at all. They just happened to be the ones in the screenshot, this is no way directed towards them specifically. I feel I had to say this so there are no misinterpretations. |
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Post by WE034 on Nov 14, 2016 18:39:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 18:39:31 GMT -5
Gotta love clans. Strayed, you forgot Cesium and Cobalt (my personal favorite - the color of course ) Lol, did you find out the hidden joke? Yup! Jesse James had a shorter version tabooed on his palm. Theres one for the workplace. - I understand - Do you understand They came with a bunch of others, but for private defining only. |
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Post by I'm Bushido 7 in RUIN on Nov 14, 2016 20:48:44 GMT -5
I've never been clubbed by mag geps as a noob then joined ruin and got clubbed on the regular squadding with clan ? Now weapons are up and can put them on any bot. We aren't clubbing destriers and Cossacks so please get over it and bring your thunder schutze at me. Take it to 4/12-that's our tier. Most of the griffins and Leos we face will destroy you with a single thought. Keep calling us clubbers and you get snarky attitude back obviously. Bottom line the gep earns you gold and that's all we are gaming. We are number one at the moment because we hustled for pumpkins ? No cup 「loose lady」s here and we like playing with each other, it's that simple.
P.S. Aphid Geps suck because they hide and wait while you're knife fighting.
P.P.S. There should be a seal clubber confessions thread
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Post by Muhlakai on Nov 14, 2016 21:08:28 GMT -5
Sure would be nice if you would make an account and join us, rather than sitting in the shadows until you get ticked off enough to snipe. You might be able to offer some valid insights if you could be part of the community.
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Post by Bushido "the lurker" 7 on Nov 14, 2016 21:54:46 GMT -5
Sure would be nice if you would make an account and join us, rather than sitting in the shadows until you get ticked off enough to snipe. You might be able to offer some valid insights if you could be part of the community. First they get you to register then they take away your Geps  ?? (Someday when I'm not on mobile I'll sign up) |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 14, 2016 22:39:41 GMT -5
Geps in silver isn't really clubbing, they are just superior bots. For example a Patton has generally the same firepower as the gepard when equipped with comparable weapons, so if everyone used pattons and boas in silver, the Gepards pilots would be having a really hard time. the only thing the gepard has over the Patton is speed. (I'm not saying that doesn't make a big difference, just saying that Gepards are entirely beatable in silver)
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Post by Boofles on Nov 14, 2016 23:25:01 GMT -5
I've never been clubbed by mag geps as a noob then joined ruin and got clubbed on the regular squadding with clan ? Now weapons are up and can put them on any bot. We aren't clubbing destriers and Cossacks so please get over it and bring your thunder schutze at me. Take it to 4/12-that's our tier. Most of the griffins and Leos we face will destroy you with a single thought. Keep calling us clubbers and you get snarky attitude back obviously. Bottom line the gep earns you gold and that's all we are gaming. We are number one at the moment because we hustled for pumpkins ? No cup [hot stuff]s here and we like playing with each other, it's that simple. P.S. Aphid Geps suck because they hide and wait while you're knife fighting. P.P.S. There should be a seal clubber confessions thread Another RUIN taking this personal. Did you read my last reply? I'm in high bronze and still relatively new, getting a weapon to 12 isn't just that simple. I don't use a thunder schutze so I don't know where you got that from. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 0:02:26 GMT -5
First they get you to register then they take away your Geps ?? Its like California and the 2A! |
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Post by Muhlakai on Nov 15, 2016 0:11:39 GMT -5
Sure would be nice if you would make an account and join us, rather than sitting in the shadows until you get ticked off enough to snipe. You might be able to offer some valid insights if you could be part of the community. First they get you to register then they take away your Geps ?? (Someday when I'm not on mobile I'll sign up) I highly recommend the Tapatalk app. It's what I use 100% of the time. Oh, and it's free. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 0:35:47 GMT -5
One of the things I look forward to the most, now that I have a clan, is a coordinated hunting strategy when dealing with clans of all gepards (or with rogs mixed in).
I understand that not all of these types of clans are beating up on new players. Fair enough. There are some that target silver. Yeah it's probably stronger and more balanced, with at least somewhat more experienced players. Sure. Ok.
But I find myself wanting to cause them to be discouraged by losing, and take their gold...simply for running all Gepards. Not because they're shameless clubbers, maybe just that I find it unsettling that Pix has allowed a situation to exist where one unbalanced bot dominates a region of the game so thoroughly and said bot isn't a competitive bot in gold or higher. I'm a fan of balance. The Gepard represents imbalance. That's all.
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Post by Strayed on Nov 15, 2016 0:37:09 GMT -5
In my opinion, the problem with mag geps is the ridiculous levels allowed in low silver. Make level 12 weaps auto gold tier and the problem will be mitigated a bit more. Another remedy may be to stop level 30 players from going into low silver and below.
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Post by couchtrader on Nov 15, 2016 0:52:02 GMT -5
The simpler solution would be to take out the ridiculous MM penalty on the Gareth. I don't understand why Pix imposed a penalty considering it's only 50 Au more than the Gep.
The Gareth is an effective counter for Magnums, it's fast enough to dodge aphids, some rocket fire, and Tarans wears out the shields quickly.
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Post by Strayed on Nov 15, 2016 1:04:41 GMT -5
Well, think about it this way, do you really want to give the gepard a phys shield as well?
The problem isn't what counters the gepard, it's what can counter what counters the gepard.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Nov 15, 2016 1:06:30 GMT -5
Y'all are way too triggered by mag geps. I call 4/12 mag geps food, because strayed taught me how to deal with them (see thread with that title in other forum). I respect that not all pilots can deal with the immense firepower of magnum gepards, but sometimes you just have to adapt in games like this.
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Post by couchtrader on Nov 15, 2016 1:45:08 GMT -5
Well, think about it this way, do you really want to give the gepard a phys shield as well? The problem isn't what counters the gepard, it's what can counter what counters the gepard. Gareth doesn't stand up to rockets and Tarans wears out its shield quickly. Any bot with either weps can counter a Gareth. |
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Post by Strayed on Nov 15, 2016 1:50:02 GMT -5
The gareth can dodge close range rockets with its speed. Even if the taran were to wear out its shield, the shooter would still most likely be dead due to the gareth's maxed taran and magnum.
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Post by SuperHero on Nov 15, 2016 2:22:44 GMT -5
I agree the main problem is Pix allowing max weapons in silver.
But I'm tired of silver clans trying to justify how "challenging" it is to play geps against Griffins and Leo's. Please. At 4/12, the mag gep crushes ALL as long as u play smart enough. I've done the mag gep thing. As long as the other team doesn't have a mag gepper of their own, u can own the match.
Multiply that with a squad, of COURSE any random team is going to get crushed. It's fine to dominate in low silver with the mag gep, I disagree with Pix about letting max mags into that tier, but since they allow it, it ain't cheating.
But please do not try to justify or convince me that it's "challenging". It's not, especially in a squad of like minded mag geppers playing against randoms who don't know better. But I will grant you that it is fun.
If you really believe it's challenging, level that gep up one more level and come tell me again. Or come and play gold instead.
I've played WITH RUIN (I used to be in LINE chats with some of them), I've played with MSK and NM as well in silver. It's 99% not challenging unless u meet another squad.
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Post by couchtrader on Nov 15, 2016 2:44:10 GMT -5
The gareth can dodge close range rockets with its speed. Even if the taran were to wear out its shield, the shooter would still most likely be dead due to the gareth's maxed taran and magnum. I'm using a 9-6/6 Gareth. At top speed, moving perpendicular from the attacker, I can manage to dodge some but not all rocket salvo. At best, I can manage sustaining only 1/3 damage. I can deal with a couple of mag-geps that come my way but I hide when I see rockets / thunders. We deal with Gareths on a daily basis and they are fairly weak against L9 rockets and Thunders. A level 4 Gareth at 51 kph is much easier to target than Gep zigzagging. Even if it's a 4-12 Taran-Mags. It is weak and slow enough to be taken out by a 4-9 Thunder Ork Pinata Golem in one salvo. Pinata Gep will probably take it out in two. Bottom line is this will force the lower tiers to strategize like we do in higher tiers against a Rhino. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 15, 2016 3:02:22 GMT -5
The gareth can dodge close range rockets with its speed. Even if the taran were to wear out its shield, the shooter would still most likely be dead due to the gareth's maxed taran and magnum. I'm using a 9-6/6 Gareth. At top speed, moving perpendicular from the attacker, I can manage to dodge some but not all rocket salvo. At best, I can manage sustaining only 1/3 damage. I can deal with a couple of mag-geps that come my way but I hide when I see rockets / thunders. We deal with Gareths on a daily basis and they are fairly weak against L9 rockets and Thunders. A level 4 Gareth at 51 kph is much easier to target than Gep zigzagging. Even if it's a 4-12 Taran-Mags. It is weak and slow enough to be taken out by a 4-9 Thunder Ork Pinata Golem in one salvo. Pinata Gep will probably take it out in two. Bottom line is this will force the lower tiers to strategize like we do in higher tiers against a Rhino. Nah, I have to agree with strayed here, at 200m back-pedalling in a bot 50km or above, you will take minimal damage from rockets, and 250m and above you will take zero damage from rockets. We are talking about orkans and pinatas here right... anyway the counter to the gareth is midrange, but I'd rather not have to deal with Gareths as well as geps.... |
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Post by couchtrader on Nov 15, 2016 3:24:15 GMT -5
Nah, I have to agree with strayed here, at 200m back-pedalling in a bot 50km or above, you will take minimal damage from rockets, and 250m and above you will take zero damage from rockets. We are talking about orkans and pinatas here right... anyway the counter to the gareth is midrange, but I'd rather not have to deal with Gareths as well as geps.... Anything within the effective range of rockets can be dealt with by leading the target. - a skill learned early on in bronze. At less than 300 m, a good lead can take more than half of it's HP. At close range, it melts like butter |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 15, 2016 3:29:58 GMT -5
Nah, I have to agree with strayed here, at 200m back-pedalling in a bot 50km or above, you will take minimal damage from rockets, and 250m and above you will take zero damage from rockets. We are talking about orkans and pinatas here right... anyway the counter to the gareth is midrange, but I'd rather not have to deal with Gareths as well as geps.... Anything within the effective range of rockets can be dealt with by leading the target. - a skill learned early on in bronze. At less than 300 m, a good lead can take more than half of it's HP. At close range, it melts like butter What do you mean a good lead? |
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Post by couchtrader on Nov 15, 2016 3:37:37 GMT -5
that's funny, camper.
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