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Post by kamikazejohnson on Dec 27, 2021 1:54:30 GMT -5
With lots of players expecting a an imminent Flamethrower nerf... Woah, what? How have I missed this? Anywhere I can read up on the theory? Genuinely curious. The reasoning I heard behind it is that flamethrower are now Tier 3 (purple) weapons, but they're generally considered to perform like Tier 4 (gold) weapons. Therefore, people are expecting them to get nerfed to Tier 3 performance. Or something like that. |
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Post by 0ppressor on Dec 27, 2021 17:00:57 GMT -5
Woah, what? How have I missed this? Anywhere I can read up on the theory? Genuinely curious. The reasoning I heard behind it is that flamethrower are now Tier 3 (purple) weapons, but they're generally considered to perform like Tier 4 (gold) weapons. Therefore, people are expecting them to get nerfed to Tier 3 performance. Or something like that. Ah, thank you. |
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Mar 8, 2022 22:46:10 GMT -5
Recently replaced Glacier with Ember, giving me this current setup:   My final Pilot skill is Gunsmith Glacier, which obviously is now worthless. Any suggestions on what I should use instead? I can simply go with Gunsmith Ember for raw damage, but is there a better option? I play almost exclusively Beacon modes. Thanks! P.S. Low Champion League. |
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Post by BB on Mar 11, 2022 8:08:45 GMT -5
Recently replaced Glacier with Ember, giving me this current setup: My final Pilot skill is Gunsmith Glacier, which obviously is now worthless. Any suggestions on what I should use instead? I can simply go with Gunsmith Ember for raw damage, but is there a better option? I play almost exclusively Beacon modes. Thanks! P.S. Low Champion League. Invulnerable raider is good if you’re into solo bacon reclamation missions like me my flamer build, I like to drop mid game and roast some Rev 「bum-bum」 from a safe distance while they are all doing the beacon circle jerk  |
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Post by Jeb on Mar 11, 2022 9:48:54 GMT -5
I was duking it out with a Strider while in my Hades the other day. That was interesting...both running similar weapon sets, probably similar durability, but I had a shield and built-in cannon vs. Strider's dashes. Lots of timing to our fight. I think I finally managed to pop him when he got far enough away that I could track him more easily, but it was a long one.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on May 16, 2022 1:11:41 GMT -5
I've been *this close* to swapping out my Strider ever since I scored an Eldritch Khepri, but then I decided to shake up my hangar a bit. Moved Blazes to Tyr, moved Ember to Fenrir, and replaced the flamethrowers on Strider with Puncher/Shredders. WOW! Pretty sure my average damage/battle with Strider more than doubled. So now my Strider looks like this:   Running The Eye as my Drone. Any suggestions on Modules? Switch them.up or stick with what I have? |
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Post by BB on May 16, 2022 6:05:12 GMT -5
kamikazejohnson I shook up my hangar about a month ago after I bit on some ridic sweet gold offers. This is my new opening beasty with all accessories :   I decided to shelf my last stand because the slot could be used for something more beneficial to my play style. I figured if I’m gonna spam AH with all my amplifiers anyway, Last Stand was taking up valuable real estate.   and I believe that this addition was the X factor in prolonging my openers life, some matches I can go the whole match even though my titan is ready, this build is too much fun to run when grossly spammed with AH   ymmv. Stride on……….
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Post by kamikazejohnson on May 20, 2022 18:00:03 GMT -5
So who else has made the Ultimate Act of Devotion to Strider?   I have no regrets. |
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Post by spectre729 on May 20, 2022 18:35:39 GMT -5
So who else has made the Ultimate Act of Devotion to Strider? I have no regrets. i just got mine about a month to a month and a half ago. im running puncher and shredder(well, when im actually using it) and it's really fun to watch the red's health drop by a good chunk in seconds |
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Post by kamikazejohnson on May 21, 2022 13:56:33 GMT -5
So who else has made the Ultimate Act of Devotion to Strider? I have no regrets. i just got mine about a month to a month and a half ago. im running puncher and shredder(well, when im actually using it) and it's really fun to watch the red's health drop by a good chunk in seconds It's amazing how much difference Bot-Weapon synergy can make. I was underperforming with Ember/Blaze, and the Shredders were decent but not great on Tyr. Swapped Puncher/Shredder to Strider, put Scorcher/Blaze on Tyr and now both are monsters. The boost in Strider performance was enough for me to postpone upgrading my Eldritch Khepri and invest 10k Au in Strider's new paint job. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 9, 2022 21:15:27 GMT -5
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Post by BB on Jul 10, 2022 8:09:03 GMT -5
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 10, 2022 11:02:03 GMT -5
BB full report after one day of running this Sharpshooter def appears to make better performance from what i can tell. Best performance seems to be 0-375m. So far I haven’t living legend with it yet, but I got a few godlike and beyond godlike. I outplayed and took out a Cinder Grom Luchador with this thing; a little dwarvish iron right up its jacksie, it was epic. Right after it fell apart, SuckerPunch said “that was Ninja style” lmao Gotta flank and ambush; gotta watch and wait a lot. Too many bendies can ruin the day. I def use Anti Control. With Hellburner, the absence of AC and the subsequent use of it was the difference between not accomplishing 「dookie」, and triple living legend multiple times. Lockdown appears to be peoples go to when using bendies, and that isn’t ideal for a hyper-spastic mech like Strider. Overall this thing punches hard. Khepri, Fenrir, and steroid Behemoths are really the only mechs I make a definite point to hunt from a distance and flank when possible for gradual degradation. DRONE I like using Beak for Strider MODULES Anti Control, Repair Amp, Heavy Armor Kit. Gonna swap Heavy Armor Kit for a Nuke Amp and see how that goes.
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Post by BB on Jul 16, 2022 7:36:38 GMT -5
Today is the day…oh yezz  even at these levels this baby pops there are many things in this game that mildly frustrate me, THIS is not one of them. |
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Post by spectre729 on Aug 28, 2022 16:47:46 GMT -5
what's better than 1 strider? that's right! 2 striders!  |
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Post by Poopface on Sept 3, 2022 8:43:26 GMT -5
So who else has made the Ultimate Act of Devotion to Strider? I have no regrets. I do! I, too, have no regrets!  |
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Post by Poopface on Sept 3, 2022 8:49:35 GMT -5
Today is the day…oh yezz even at these levels this baby pops there are many things in this game that mildly frustrate me, THIS is not one of them. Returning to the game from a year off, I'm trying to figure out what I need to do to make my two Striders more viable. I'm finding they're even more squishy (shocker) and the guns are very nerf.
Other than the obvious "all the new meta stuff is more viable" answer, what stuff works? What completely doesn't? I know there are certain old-school options that have always sucked (Punishers, for example), but are there new wrinkles of suckage that have developed due to the changed meta either from weapons nerfs or due to how the new mechs operate?
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Sept 3, 2022 13:22:56 GMT -5
Poopface - Flames are still a very good choice, the blast shotguns currently the most optimal; sonics are awesome but not as map versatile; Puncher Shredder is great, especially at knocking down the ga dam Aegis shields. Acid is also an excellent choice. - The best tactics for Strider, especially in extreme durability meta, remains flanking support and ambush hit n run. Less exposure is better for Strider, and in a game where a lot of mechs stand around in the open lasting forever, this means Strider is more easily ignored, not seen as much of a threat, so that helps the flanking ambushing, at which point those players realize the error of ignoring the Strider lmao. It is also worth noting that Strider continues to excel using tactical uncertainty to evade targeting when it comes to side-stepping, because a lot of mech chassis turn quite slow (most players not realizing they can adjust that lol), but if you get a Gravity Amplifier turret for mothership, this slows the enemy target’s chassis rotation a lot, and this is favorable for spastic SuckerPunchiliciousness - The optimal build for longevity will be a couple Repair Amplifier modules, drones like Nebula, Beak, Persephone, or Ironhearth, Advanced Repair, and Northlight mothership - Alternatively, Mantis mothership, and for modules, even though it may seem counter-intuitive for a flanking/ambush style, I feel it is better to build longevity. Three HAKs will serve you well, but I always have one Anti Control on Strider cuz immobilization kills the spasm. You ideally want to aim for the Northlight mothership, a couple Repair Amps, and a Hammer Cudgel or Puncher Cudgel build imo Lastly, I would say a Hel Snaer or bendy build will be excellent for when Yamantau comes back. I am building the former for this reason.
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Post by Poopface on Sept 3, 2022 17:45:03 GMT -5
Poopface - Flames are still a very good choice, the blast shotguns currently the most optimal; sonics are awesome but not as map versatile; Puncher Shredder is great, especially at knocking down the ga dam Aegis shields. Acid is also an excellent choice. - The best tactics for Strider, especially in extreme durability meta, remains flanking support and ambush hit n run. Less exposure is better for Strider, and in a game where a lot of mechs stand around in the open lasting forever, this means Strider is more easily ignored, not seen as much of a threat, so that helps the flanking ambushing, at which point those players realize the error of ignoring the Strider lmao. It is also worth noting that Strider continues to excel using tactical uncertainty to evade targeting when it comes to side-stepping, because a lot of mech chassis turn quite slow (most players not realizing they can adjust that lol), but if you get a Gravity Amplifier turret for mothership, this slows the enemy target’s chassis rotation a lot, and this is favorable for spastic SuckerPunchiliciousness - The optimal build for longevity will be a couple Repair Amplifier modules, drones like Nebula, Beak, Persephone, or Ironhearth, Advanced Repair, and Northlight mothership - Alternatively, Mantis mothership, and for modules, even though it may seem counter-intuitive for a flanking/ambush style, I feel it is better to build longevity. Three HAKs will serve you well, but I always have one Anti Control on Strider cuz immobilization kills the spasm. You ideally want to aim for the Northlight mothership, a couple Repair Amps, and a Hammer Cudgel or Puncher Cudgel build imo Lastly, I would say a Hel Snaer or bendy build will be excellent for when Yamantau comes back. I am building the former for this reason. Thanks for all that info on gun loadouts, drones, and motherships. I’m surprised you say flames are good; my MK2 rank 3 flames are very nerf on my Hades. I bought a few packs of the silver coins ($4 each) and opened a bunch of those groups. Unfortunately, I received 4 Hazards. To help with Strider goodness I did get 4 Hammers, 1.7 Cudgels, and 1.8 Blights. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Sept 3, 2022 18:55:01 GMT -5
Poopface if your flames are not doing damage, unless its lag or a hack, you must be hitting them during a resistance/repair window. When these defense points and repairs are finished, regular damage should resume. I try not to ever share or suggest something unless Ive been using it, and I always have flames in hangar because they do quite well. I dont feel Hades is currently a good platform for fire though. Strider is a different story, and perhaps it would help you to use the Beak drone with it to multiply damage output.
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Post by BB on Sept 4, 2022 8:24:29 GMT -5
Today is the dayâ¦oh yezz even at these levels this baby pops there are many things in this game that mildly frustrate me, THIS is not one of them. Returning to the game from a year off, I'm trying to figure out what I need to do to make my two Striders more viable. I'm finding they're even more squishy (shocker) and the guns are very nerf.
Other than the obvious "all the new meta stuff is more viable" answer, what stuff works? What completely doesn't? I know there are certain old-school options that have always sucked (Punishers, for example), but are there new wrinkles of suckage that have developed due to the changed meta either from weapons nerfs or due to how the new mechs operate?
As you know, I run 5 with different builds that WORK FOR ME and my particular play style in master blaster league: 2 modern, 2 quirky, and 1 OG. 1 new shotties with beak drone AND shot grouping skills as my opener 1 Bose system for daring assassination attempts and general CQC madness/support 1 Puncher with Scalds (both 500m gen purp that work up close nicely tyvm) 1 Viper Quarker (both 500m gen purpâ¦â¦ââ¦â¦) 1 freezy rockets (wildcard build) I gave up on tasers due to the frustration of targeting the plethora of magic, you cant shoot me now, easy button 「female dog」es) |
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Post by Poopface on Sept 4, 2022 9:11:36 GMT -5
BBBy freezy rockets, are you referring to Glacier/Rime? The 300m range ones? Or are there others I’m not familiar with?
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Post by BB on Sept 4, 2022 9:20:03 GMT -5
BB By freezy rockets, are you referring to Glacier/Rime? The 300m range ones? Or are there others Iâm not familiar with?  and I forgotâ¦NO passive modules, theyâre for 「kitty cats」 now |
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Post by Poopface on Sept 4, 2022 10:10:07 GMT -5
BB By freezy rockets, are you referring to Glacier/Rime? The 300m range ones? Or are there others IâÂÂm not familiar with? and I forgotâ¦NO passive modules, theyâÂÂre for ãkitty catsã now Iâm a big 「meow」. I need all the help I can get.  |
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ch4xprt
Destrier
Posts: 119
Karma: 203
Pilot name: ch4xprt
Platform: Android
Clan: Twisted Carnage
League: Champion
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Strider
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Post by ch4xprt on Sept 4, 2022 19:58:09 GMT -5
He's been my first drop bot since release way back when. Never been outta Champions League once in the last 5 years and still viable, especially with the pilots and drones available today. You'll see once you get into shawngonakillyou 's time drops, I'm very aggressive and it's brawl time start to finish. One Khepri, phew, 2...no step for a stepper, 3 might get me but their gonna be thinking, "that cat's a hacker....he can't do that to meeee"! I love it. This is this month's combo, but Scald-Incenerator and Peregrin pilot is damn near as good. I really like the Dillo drone if you have one. Pretty common to pick up 3 beacons and 2 kills early, and that 75 defense increase does wonders. Skyros is my biggest problem. Pain in the arse, they is.    |
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Post by shawngonakillyou on Sept 4, 2022 20:36:27 GMT -5
He's been my first drop bot since release way back when. Never been outta Champions League once in the last 5 years and still viable, especially with the pilots and drones available today. You'll see once you get into shawngonakillyou 's time drops, I'm very aggressive and it's brawl time start to finish. One Khepri, phew, 2...no step for a stepper, 3 might get me but their gonna be thinking, "that cat's a hacker....he can't do that to meeee"! I love it. This is this month's combo, but Scald-Incenerator and Peregrin pilot is damn near as good. I really like the Dillo drone if you have one. Pretty common to pick up 3 beacons and 2 kills early, and that 75 defense increase does wonders. Skyros is my biggest problem. Pain in the arse, they is. I think your strider and my Mender give people the same fits. The scatter Khepris are the only ones that give me real trouble in that Mender build. I love smashing “better” bots. And I can 100% confirm that ch4xprt is ridiculous in that bot. It is hilarious to watch and is silly fast. He does look like a hacker. Fully maxed that thing is crazy fast. If you know the maps and can pilot that speed (which he can) it is amazing to watch. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Sept 4, 2022 22:38:45 GMT -5
A sonic Fenrir vs a bsg Strider  Strider looking at the Fenrir carcass afterwards  |
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Post by BB on Sept 5, 2022 17:46:47 GMT -5
ch4xprt Have you tried all shotty? Because I take large skyros chunks while dancing with them. Sacrificing 2 skill slots for shot grouping is the trick IMO. I still haven’t tried the rad weaps yet, but assuming they are killer. I haven’t seen you in battle in a dogs age, great to see you representing! No better bot to get in touch with your inner psycho than Strider. I NEVER get bored running my stable, stunt assassination option everywhere! PS. I need more dashes
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ch4xprt
Destrier
Posts: 119
Karma: 203
Pilot name: ch4xprt
Platform: Android
Clan: Twisted Carnage
League: Champion
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Strider
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Post by ch4xprt on Sept 5, 2022 19:27:16 GMT -5
I know BB, use to see you quite frequently in the field but jeez it's been a minute. Yeah, Shotties are great. I've got Jack Moore with shot grouping and it's quite devastating with the damage increase while scooting....but like I was eluding to earlier, with the pilots, drones, and module combos we have today, it's really good with about anything. Was always fun and even better now. |
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Post by Poopface on Sept 8, 2022 19:21:10 GMT -5
Coming along.  I’m also working on a Hammer/Cudgel Strider as well. It’s farther behind, though. |
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