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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 4, 2017 0:11:30 GMT -5
Sum up: Hypocrisy, hypocrisy, more hypocrisy, a lot of assumptions blah blah blah in the real world, you are aloud guns. Hence you are aloud to shoot people just because you can, right?.....right?! i mean, I personally don't like people being shot, but, I'm aloud to, so why shouldn't I?! now, I know you are well armed and have spent a lot of time gathering gear in game, so obviously when the occasional tanker-who-hasn't-been-placed-correctly-thanks-to-his-stupidity-and-then-blames-the-MM shows up in top tier, it's obviously the better armed persons fault, right? and stop whining about my play style, which is the reason I and many others are suffering, YOUR play style is what's wrong with the game! Just because my play style is deplorable by any definition, doesn't mean that I can't do it! This is a false equivalency. Shooting people is illegal, and there are punishments for it. Try Again. I kinda meant it from a moral stand point, so I'll re-phrase it for you. you CAN shoot people. You can also tank your win-rate. Both are considered deplorable and wrong. just because you can do something, should you? Punishment or not And, you only answered half the argument (the sarcastic, one at that). Try Again.
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Post by blastronaut on Feb 4, 2017 0:15:08 GMT -5
Then why did Pixo say that they are implementing a penalty specifically for quitting? Why is it that Pixo implemented the new mm in an effort to stop sealclubbing? Quite frankly, I am not whining about anything, I am simply stating my opinion, which is why I actually offered ways to counter 12/12s. And just so you know, there are ways to counter 12/12s. Not all playstyles in this game are valid. The only playstyles are legitimate playstyles and playstyles that will be hot fixed by the devs as soon as possible. Pixo lied when they said the new MM was to fix clubbing, it was actually to encourage progression and thus players spending $$. Please cite your source for "Pixo says they are implementing a penalty". It took them over a year to "fix seal clubbling" LMAO. ALL playstyles in this game ARE legitimate. YOU just don't like some of them, and you whine about it because it makes you feel like you are better than others.
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Post by bagofsoup on Feb 4, 2017 0:21:40 GMT -5
I don't like dwarves [Tankers]. They are greedy and blind, blind to the lives of those they deem lesser than themselves... But orcs [Pixonic], I hate more.
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 4, 2017 0:23:20 GMT -5
Then why did Pixo say that they are implementing a penalty specifically for quitting? Why is it that Pixo implemented the new mm in an effort to stop sealclubbing? Quite frankly, I am not whining about anything, I am simply stating my opinion, which is why I actually offered ways to counter 12/12s. And just so you know, there are ways to counter 12/12s. Not all playstyles in this game are valid. The only playstyles are legitimate playstyles and playstyles that will be hot fixed by the devs as soon as possible. Pixo lied when they said the new MM was to fix clubbing, it was actually to encourage progression and thus players spending $$. Please cite your source for "Pixo says they are implementing a penalty". It took them over a year to "fix seal clubbling" LMAO. ALL playstyles in this game ARE legitimate. YOU just don't like some of them, and you whine about it because it makes you feel like you are better than others. A lot of assumptions... pix announced on their Facebook page about the penalty, go check it please cite your source where pix said the new MM was to encourage spending now, back to morals. Tanking isn't a play style. Quitting games with the intent on losing isn't a play style, it's a method for clubbing noobs and cheating the system. Clubbing is the play style. Cheating the system is wrong, and you know it, so don't say that it's fine because it's "allowed". You are like child. You are given privileges (like choosing your tier in the old MM) you ruin it by clubbing. They give you a new MM. You cheat the system more and ruin th privelage of being able to quit games. and I don't appreciate you assuming these deplorable things about strayed, he isn't condescending, or any of the insults you have added to your argument so it was more than just "you didn't provide any evidence" or "I have a better idea then pixo on what their intentions are" like you know anything more than reaping what you sew
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Post by blastronaut on Feb 4, 2017 0:26:13 GMT -5
This is a false equivalency. Shooting people is illegal, and there are punishments for it. Try Again. I kinda meant it from a moral stand point, so I'll re-phrase it for you. you CAN shoot people. You can also tank your win-rate. Both are considered deplorable and wrong. just because you can do something, should you? Punishment or not And, you only answered half the argument (the sarcastic, one at that). Try Again. Did Pixonic take the moral high ground when they nerfed items players paid actual money for? By stating that something which is not illegal to be "deplorable and wrong" you are only projecting your beliefs onto others. Some religions think that drinking alcohol is deplorable and wrong, but murdering your child because she "brought shame to the family" is perfectly acceptable. I don't have any issue with War Robots players using methods that are allowed by the game to find matches they enjoy. You shouldn't either.
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Post by Strayed on Feb 4, 2017 0:35:31 GMT -5
Then why did Pixo say that they are implementing a penalty specifically for quitting? Why is it that Pixo implemented the new mm in an effort to stop sealclubbing? Quite frankly, I am not whining about anything, I am simply stating my opinion, which is why I actually offered ways to counter 12/12s. And just so you know, there are ways to counter 12/12s. Not all playstyles in this game are valid. The only playstyles are legitimate playstyles and playstyles that will be hot fixed by the devs as soon as possible. Pixo lied when they said the new MM was to fix clubbing, it was actually to encourage progression and thus players spending $$. Please cite your source for "Pixo says they are implementing a penalty". It took them over a year to "fix seal clubbling" LMAO. ALL playstyles in this game ARE legitimate. YOU just don't like some of them, and you whine about it because it makes you feel like you are better than others. And your evidence for that is? Well, last I checked I'm the one with the Pixo contact. And Pixo did post it on their facebook as well. Just because you can perform an action does not mean that it is morally right or legitimate to do so. It's not illegal to game the American tax system, yet is it morally right to do so? Will you be held in high regards if you do so?
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Post by Strayed on Feb 4, 2017 0:37:43 GMT -5
I kinda meant it from a moral stand point, so I'll re-phrase it for you. you CAN shoot people. You can also tank your win-rate. Both are considered deplorable and wrong. just because you can do something, should you? Punishment or not And, you only answered half the argument (the sarcastic, one at that). Try Again. Did Pixonic take the moral high ground when they nerfed items players paid actual money for? By stating that something which is not illegal to be "deplorable and wrong" you are only projecting your beliefs onto others. Some religions think that drinking alcohol is deplorable and wrong, but murdering your child because she "brought shame to the family" is perfectly acceptable. I don't have any issue with War Robots players using methods that are allowed by the game to find matches they enjoy. You shouldn't either. Yes, because they are attempting to fix game balance and provide a better experience for all players. And in the Mongol empire they 「grape」 and pillaged as they pleased. Does that make it morally right when looking back at it in hindsight? I am sorry that we do not share the same views that you do.
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Post by Strayed on Feb 4, 2017 0:42:15 GMT -5
Pixo lied when they said the new MM was to fix clubbing, it was actually to encourage progression and thus players spending $$. Please cite your source for "Pixo says they are implementing a penalty". It took them over a year to "fix seal clubbling" LMAO. ALL playstyles in this game ARE legitimate. YOU just don't like some of them, and you whine about it because it makes you feel like you are better than others. A lot of assumptions... pix announced on their Facebook page about the penalty, go check it please cite your source where pix said the new MM was to encourage spending now, back to morals. Tanking isn't a play style. Quitting games with the intent on losing isn't a play style, it's a method for clubbing noobs and cheating the system. Clubbing is the play style. Cheating the system is wrong, and you know it, so don't say that it's fine because it's "allowed". You are like child. You are given privileges (like choosing your tier in the old MM) you ruin it by clubbing. They give you a new MM. You cheat the system more and ruin th privelage of being able to quit games. and I don't appreciate you assuming these deplorable things about strayed, he isn't condescending, or any of the insults you have added to your argument so it was more than just "you didn't provide any evidence" or "I have a better idea then pixo on what their intentions are" like you know anything more than reaping what you sew Hey haunter, could you please refrain from personally insulting him? Thank you
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 4, 2017 0:46:00 GMT -5
Did Pixonic take the moral high ground when they nerfed items players paid actual money for? So, balancing the game out so it's fair for everyone is wrong? Not every item will be in the Meta all the time, nerfs and buffs come and go. Why play the game if you've just bought a lance and it's the best bot in the game forever? What's the point in saving gold when you wreck everyone with the stuff you have? Just because your 5 gep hangar got a nerd, doesn't mean they aren't usable anymore, it just means they aren't OP and un-beatable anymore By stating that something which is not illegal to be "deplorable and wrong" you are only projecting your beliefs onto others. Some religions think that drinking alcohol is deplorable and wrong, but murdering your child because she "brought shame to the family" is perfectly acceptable. But, isn't saying "tanking is fine because the system allows it(for now)" the same thing? And you can't live in someone else's house and make the rules. Regardless of what a religion says, if pix says they are penalizing players because its tanking is wrong, it's wrong. If they think clubbing is wrong and they don't want it on there game, it's as good as gone. Just because a religion says one thing, doesn't mean it over-rules the law. I don't have any issue with War Robots players using methods that are allowed by the game to find matches they enjoy. You shouldn't either. what was that? Just because you think something, it means I have to aswell? Hasn't this been the base of 90% percent of your agrument? No one cares that you don't have an issue with it. I don't have an issue with necrophilia, ?grape?, murder etc. so that means that they are fine, right? I'm literally just repeating myself.
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 4, 2017 0:46:35 GMT -5
A lot of assumptions... pix announced on their Facebook page about the penalty, go check it please cite your source where pix said the new MM was to encourage spending now, back to morals. Tanking isn't a play style. Quitting games with the intent on losing isn't a play style, it's a method for clubbing noobs and cheating the system. Clubbing is the play style. Cheating the system is wrong, and you know it, so don't say that it's fine because it's "allowed". You are like child. You are given privileges (like choosing your tier in the old MM) you ruin it by clubbing. They give you a new MM. You cheat the system more and ruin th privelage of being able to quit games. and I don't appreciate you assuming these deplorable things about strayed, he isn't condescending, or any of the insults you have added to your argument so it was more than just "you didn't provide any evidence" or "I have a better idea then pixo on what their intentions are" like you know anything more than reaping what you sew Hey haunter, could you please refrain from personally insulting him? Thank you Alrighty
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Post by brudeldischarge on Feb 4, 2017 1:27:59 GMT -5
Idk how dropping my damage and War Robots to a spot were I'm still the most under scored hanger makes me a tanker or just a person that didn't wanna lose 50 games in a row by chance and endure the boring game play those TT botz offer. I didn't put myself at that lvl to start with pix did I just readjusted my hanger were game play was faster and better. Even losing a game at this lvl is better than a win with the stagnant game play TT offers. Pix can do whatever they want I'll find a way around it. I'm no genius so if I can find it so can others. And maybe even better ways. And if you people don't like it you can leave. Cause I'm staying.
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Feb 4, 2017 2:13:32 GMT -5
I said this before a while ago, but I think it's worth repeating. Don't look to the government to figure out what's right or wrong. They're a bunch of corrupt politicians. Don't look to Pixonic either. They're a profit-maximizing corporation making money by selling unfair advantages in this game.
It's not illegal to give a bunch of bored kids a basketball, and then, once they start a game and it's really close and the winner is about to be decided, grab the ball, saying that you need it back now. That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal.
Or you could go into a movie theater, and then, at the most saddest moments of the movie, laugh very loudly and inappropriately, thus spoiling the experience for everybody. That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal.
Or you could crash a funeral of a man, look for the woman dressed all in black, and go up to her and say, "It's your fault that he died, you know." That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal.
Morals have and always will be community standards. If the community hates what you're doing, that's a big clue to stop being a total <insert profanity here>. If you can't play well with others (like everybody else learned in kindergarten), if you want easy competition, and you want to be a total <insert profanity here>, go play a 1-player game against dumb AI opponents. Some of us are trying to build a community here.
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Post by odin63 on Feb 4, 2017 2:26:45 GMT -5
You sir, are a moron. Pixonic created this mess, you should be calling them out. If players weren't rewarded for "tanking" they wouldn't be doing it. I think you are a fool for not taking advantage of this new style of play Pixonic has introduced. Ah, another hypocrite as wandered into the form...you see, friend, what is happening here with the new MM is a cycle. 4/9 clubbers get bumped up ---> 4/9 clubbers tank their winrates, ruining the game for everyone else ---> MM gets the blame for the 4/9 clubbers stupidity ---> after a few 'fair' games with noobs, the clubber moves back up to where he belongs (9/9) ---> rinse and repeat. the MM is fine, clubbers are the problem. This 'exploit' (and your false entitlement to be able to pwn noobs) is what's ruining the game. I think it would would be best for you to go back to a game that others of your mental capacity play aswell, like, one of the many Sesame Street games. Why is it I keep seeing posts that call 4/9 gep hangars clubbers? As I've posted (and seen posted by others with similar hangars,) numerous times, I'd only played silver tier with my hangar before the recent mm fiasco. The matches all contained a plethora of bots, lights, mediums, and heavies, with an abundance of griffs and leos, and fair competition. As a former 4/9 gepper, I have also never deliberately clubbed or tanked a single game with the intention of exploiting an mm loophole or otherwise. I think the clubbers were actually those with 1/9 - 2/9 gep hangars that kept them in bronze, and they usually ran as clans. While I don't condone this behavior, I can certainly understand some of the reasons that lead players to tank their matches. Frustration with mm for consistently unfair matchups would easily encourage many to exploit the game that has so completely undermined their previous efforts. Resources are needed to build and ultimately compete, and the new mm has made this extremely difficult for former silver tier players. It is natural to want to reach a level of fair competition quickly rather than having to grind away for months to (hopefully,) reach TT competitive play. Yes, there are many who are intentionally and selfishly tanking their matches, but let's not paint them all with a gep hangar brush.
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Post by brudeldischarge on Feb 4, 2017 2:29:21 GMT -5
I said this before a while ago, but I think it's worth repeating. Don't look to the government to figure out what's right or wrong. They're a bunch of corrupt politicians. Don't look to Pixonic either. They're a profit-maximizing corporation making money by selling unfair advantages in this game. It's not illegal to give a bunch of bored kids a basketball, and then, once they start a game and it's really close and the winner is about to be decided, grab the ball, saying that you need it back now. That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal. Or you could go into a movie theater, and then, at the most saddest moments of the movie, laugh very loudly and inappropriately, thus spoiling the experience for everybody. That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal. Or you could crash a funeral of a man, look for the woman dressed all in black, and go up to her and say, "It's your fault that he died, you know." That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal. Morals have and always will be community standards. If the community hates what you're doing, that's a big clue to stop being a total <insert profanity here>. If you can't play well with others (like everybody else learned in kindergarten), if you want easy competition, and you want to be a total <insert profanity here>, go play a 1-player game against dumb AI opponents. Some of us are trying to build a community here. You forgot pixonic took a mm system and installed a worse one<insert profanity here> it's rather funny how people whined that I just need to adjust to the new system. I did by tanking. And people are still whining. Honestly are you people nvr happy? I'm still fighting hangers stronger than me. Just funner and faster paced than before. Now that pix took out all the other gepard players I'm thinking of going all aphid gepards. Any thoughts?
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Post by riznfire on Feb 4, 2017 2:51:54 GMT -5
I agree tanker or quitters are lame and I can't wait untill pixonic punishes you. It's not like you are anything that pixonic cares about, you obviously don't spend money and are pissing off people who have spent money, you will be gone soon, see ya bye.
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 4, 2017 2:57:47 GMT -5
Ah, another hypocrite as wandered into the form...you see, friend, what is happening here with the new MM is a cycle. 4/9 clubbers get bumped up ---> 4/9 clubbers tank their winrates, ruining the game for everyone else ---> MM gets the blame for the 4/9 clubbers stupidity ---> after a few 'fair' games with noobs, the clubber moves back up to where he belongs (9/9) ---> rinse and repeat. the MM is fine, clubbers are the problem. This 'exploit' (and your false entitlement to be able to pwn noobs) is what's ruining the game. I think it would would be best for you to go back to a game that others of your mental capacity play aswell, like, one of the many Sesame Street games. Why is it I keep seeing posts that call 4/9 gep hangars clubbers? As I've posted (and seen posted by others with similar hangars,) numerous times, I'd only played silver tier with my hangar before the recent mm fiasco. The matches all contained a plethora of bots, lights, mediums, and heavies, with an abundance of griffs and leos, and fair competition. As a former 4/9 gepper, I have also never deliberately clubbed or tanked a single game with the intention of exploiting an mm loophole or otherwise. I think the clubbers were actually those with 1/9 - 2/9 gep hangars that kept them in bronze, and they usually ran as clans. So, it never seemed odd to you that the only people who didn't call 4/9 gep hangars a 'clubber' was the people using them? though I do understand it wasn't your intention, that is considered clubbing
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 4, 2017 3:05:48 GMT -5
I said this before a while ago, but I think it's worth repeating. Don't look to the government to figure out what's right or wrong. They're a bunch of corrupt politicians. Don't look to Pixonic either. They're a profit-maximizing corporation making money by selling unfair advantages in this game. It's not illegal to give a bunch of bored kids a basketball, and then, once they start a game and it's really close and the winner is about to be decided, grab the ball, saying that you need it back now. That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal. Or you could go into a movie theater, and then, at the most saddest moments of the movie, laugh very loudly and inappropriately, thus spoiling the experience for everybody. That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal. Or you could crash a funeral of a man, look for the woman dressed all in black, and go up to her and say, "It's your fault that he died, you know." That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal. Morals have and always will be community standards. If the community hates what you're doing, that's a big clue to stop being a total <insert profanity here>. If you can't play well with others (like everybody else learned in kindergarten), if you want easy competition, and you want to be a total <insert profanity here>, go play a 1-player game against dumb AI opponents. Some of us are trying to build a community here. You forgot pixonic took a mm system and installed a worse one<insert profanity here> it's rather funny how people whined that I just need to adjust to the new system. I did by tanking. And people are still whining. Honestly are you people nvr happy? I'm still fighting hangers stronger than me. Just funner and faster paced than before. Now that pix took out all the other gepard players I'm thinking of going all aphid geparde. Any thoughts? You ruined the first MM by clubbing, and you are ruining this one by tanking. Then you come here and complain about how everyone else is the whining that you continue to spoil people's games and go on about how it's fine because there isn't a penalty, and it's just "Adjusting" to the new system (spoilers, it's not, you are just ruining the game and complaining about how it's the MM, pixonics and our fault. Go play WOT blitz, there's no game left to ruin)
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Post by brudeldischarge on Feb 4, 2017 3:34:45 GMT -5
You forgot pixonic took a mm system and installed a worse one<insert profanity here> it's rather funny how people whined that I just need to adjust to the new system. I did by tanking. And people are still whining. Honestly are you people nvr happy? I'm still fighting hangers stronger than me. Just funner and faster paced than before. Now that pix took out all the other gepard players I'm thinking of going all aphid geparde. Any thoughts? You ruined the first MM by clubbing, and you are ruining this one by tanking. Then you come here and complain about how everyone else is the whining that you continue to spoil people's games and go on about how it's fine because there isn't a penalty, and it's just "Adjusting" to the new system (spoilers, it's not, you are just ruining the game and complaining about how it's the MM, pixonics and our fault. Go play WOT blitz, there's no game left to ruin) Why are you accusing me of clubbing? I was fighting op hangers b4 mm changed and I still am. I don't win every game down here either since alot of gold league players for some reason are down here to. I fail to see your reasoning? Would you prefer me to play 60 plus games to get down here? I was at 98% b4 mm change. Think the real question should be do I wanna rip the band aid off fast or slow. I see you prefer slow. Idc what my % win rate or damage is never have. I simply play for fun. It seems you don't since you take it too serious. Have fun pulling your band aid slowly.
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 4, 2017 4:04:38 GMT -5
Why are you accusing me of clubbing? I was fighting op hangers b4 mm changed and I still am. I don't win every game down here either since alot of gold league players for some reason are down here to. I fail to see your reasoning? Would you prefer me to play 60 plus games to get down here? I was at 98% b4 mm change. Think the real question should be do I wanna rip the band aid off fast or slow. I see you prefer slow. Idc what my % win rate or damage is never have. I simply play for fun. It seems you don't since you take it too serious. Have fun pulling your band aid slowly. School is my top priority right now, and I am in no way 'serious' about this game, and I never had a band aid in the first place. why I am accusing you of clubbing is that you 1. Own 5 geps and 2. Had a 98% percent win rate (some OP hangars you must have been fighting, huh?) I kinda got lost after the whole band aid metaphor and whatnot, you Aren't very easy to understand. But I think you said something about playing with gold tier players? After amassing enough AU for five Gepards (and 15 aphids), you could easily be in gold tier if you weren't focused on clubbing
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Post by brudeldischarge on Feb 4, 2017 4:18:28 GMT -5
Pixo lied when they said the new MM was to fix clubbing, it was actually to encourage progression and thus players spending $$. Please cite your source for "Pixo says they are implementing a penalty". It took them over a year to "fix seal clubbling" LMAO. ALL playstyles in this game ARE legitimate. YOU just don't like some of them, and you whine about it because it makes you feel like you are better than others. A lot of assumptions... pix announced on their Facebook page about the penalty, go check it please cite your source where pix said the new MM was to encourage spending now, back to morals. Tanking isn't a play style. Quitting games with the intent on losing isn't a play style, it's a method for clubbing noobs and cheating the system. Clubbing is the play style. Cheating the system is wrong, and you know it, so don't say that it's fine because it's "allowed". You are like child. You are given privileges (like choosing your tier in the old MM) you ruin it by clubbing. They give you a new MM. You cheat the system more and ruin th privelage of being able to quit games. and I don't appreciate you assuming these deplorable things about strayed, he isn't condescending, or any of the insults you have added to your argument so it was more than just "you didn't provide any evidence" or "I have a better idea then pixo on what their intentions are" like you know anything more than reaping what you sew Yeah well I don't need to touch fire to know it's hot either. If you can't see this is a money grab by pix by now I'm not going to waste my time explaining it to you. I did look at the pixonic FB didn't see anything about penalties. I did see a video made for them about how they are going to cater to whales and their strategies on how they will work over players to get more money from them. Honestly some of you guys seem so brainwashed. Lol join the pixonic you will be assimilated Into the TT collective. I love playing the small botz, I love playing competitive. Sorry u don't feel that way or you wouldn't want lvl 3 gepards with lvl 9 weapons playing with your 12/12
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 4:19:58 GMT -5
I have always liked the liquid no sting spray on band aid. It is invisible, waterproof and keeps your boo-boo clean.
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 4, 2017 4:42:46 GMT -5
A lot of assumptions... pix announced on their Facebook page about the penalty, go check it please cite your source where pix said the new MM was to encourage spending now, back to morals. Tanking isn't a play style. Quitting games with the intent on losing isn't a play style, it's a method for clubbing noobs and cheating the system. Clubbing is the play style. Cheating the system is wrong, and you know it, so don't say that it's fine because it's "allowed". You are like child. You are given privileges (like choosing your tier in the old MM) you ruin it by clubbing. They give you a new MM. You cheat the system more and ruin th privelage of being able to quit games. and I don't appreciate you assuming these deplorable things about strayed, he isn't condescending, or any of the insults you have added to your argument so it was more than just "you didn't provide any evidence" or "I have a better idea then pixo on what their intentions are" like you know anything more than reaping what you sew Yeah well I don't need to touch fire to know it's hot either. If you can't see this is a money grab by pix by now I'm not going to waste my time explaining it to you. I did look at the pixonic FB didn't see anything about penalties. I did see a video made for them about how they are going to cater to whales and their strategies on how they will work over players to get more money from them. Honestly some of you guys seem so brainwashed. Lol join the pixonic you will be assimilated Into the TT collective. I love playing the small botz, I love playing competitive. Sorry u don't feel that way or you wouldn't want lvl 3 gepards with lvl 9 weapons playing with your 12/12 What happened, my argument directed at you was to hard to make a come back, so you went to one I said to someone else? and I never said it wasn't a ploy to gain money. Everything the devs do with War Robots is to gain money. Are they not aloud to profit? Do you think the magic game development fairies pay them for making the game? I very rarely spend money on the game, and am no where near a TT hangar. Speaking of whales, are you saying you earnt 17, 250 gold to buy 5 geps+15 aphids without spending money? and I don't get how the MM was a money grab. All it has done is given (from my personal experience, and quite a few others) better, more challenging, match ups. Though any match where you can't just charge into enemies and hold the red button and win isn't fair by your standards, huh? funny how the people who spend the money for 5 geps and don't win complain about how the new MM is P2W. I mean, if it was, your gep hangars would be fine
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Feb 4, 2017 6:24:08 GMT -5
Guys, I hate to say this, but you will not win this argument. It's like telling small children, it is wrong to keep the toys in kindergarden only for themselves. They have the right to and just can't understand, why they should share with others. Right or wrong doesn't matter here. It is sad, but whenever there is a way to exploit, some people think, it is legit to do so...
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Feb 4, 2017 8:24:21 GMT -5
I said this before a while ago, but I think it's worth repeating. Don't look to the government to figure out what's right or wrong. They're a bunch of corrupt politicians. Don't look to Pixonic either. They're a profit-maximizing corporation making money by selling unfair advantages in this game.It's not illegal to give a bunch of bored kids a basketball, and then, once they start a game and it's really close and the winner is about to be decided, grab the ball, saying that you need it back now. That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal. Or you could go into a movie theater, and then, at the most saddest moments of the movie, laugh very loudly and inappropriately, thus spoiling the experience for everybody. That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal. Or you could crash a funeral of a man, look for the woman dressed all in black, and go up to her and say, "It's your fault that he died, you know." That's being a total <insert profanity here>, but it's not illegal. Morals have and always will be community standards. If the community hates what you're doing, that's a big clue to stop being a total <insert profanity here>. If you can't play well with others (like everybody else learned in kindergarten), if you want easy competition, and you want to be a total <insert profanity here>, go play a 1-player game against dumb AI opponents. Some of us are trying to build a community here. You forgot pixonic took a mm system and installed a worse one<insert profanity here> You realize that this is not a response to anything I actually said? I'm pretty sure you do, you're just hoping to change the subject. Gotcha. As you can see, I said right there (italicized so you can find it real easy) that you can NOT look to Pixonic for guidance on right or wrong because they are a corporation, and thus a profit-maximizing entity. By and large, corporations do not care about morals. In the U.S., I believe they have a legal requirement to prioritize the interests of their shareholders. Which would explain why many of them have no compunctions about morally questionable actions such as automatically denying insurance claims, legally defending a person responsible for the death of their own customer, selling harmful products (like food with additives and preservatives, products containing cancer-causing substances, and addictive products like cigarettes and... um...), choosing not to recall unsafe products if the expected loss of the recall is higher than the expected loss of not recalling, or lobbying the government to overthrow foreign leaders that are blocking them from expanding their businesses. Some corporations are run by people who try and do better than this, but I would say that these are the exceptions, not the norm. As far as I'm concerned, I think the jury is still out on Pixonic. I never did, so I guess this isn't directed at me. From the start (and you can search my posts if you want), I have never defined seal clubbing by what gear was used, but on whether or not the player was intentionally unbalancing matches, thus reducing how enjoyable they were to other players in that match. The reasoning being that this is anti-social behavior, inappropriate for a multi-player game. Clearly, tanking matches has the same effect of ruining matches. As I said before, but which you did not respond to, players with such anti-social tendencies ought to play one-player games instead. Any thoughts?
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Post by Conflict's Student on Feb 4, 2017 8:30:09 GMT -5
I was at 98% b4 mm change. I was fighting op hangers b4 mm changed I don't think "op" (overpowered) means what you think it means. You were abusing a known exploit, pure and simple.
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Post by Conflict's Student on Feb 4, 2017 8:37:47 GMT -5
I have never defined seal clubbing by what gear was used, but on whether or not the player was intentionally unbalancing matches, thus reducing how enjoyable they were to other players in that match. The reasoning being that this is anti-social behavior, inappropriate for a multi-player game. Clearly, tanking matches has the same effect of ruining matches. As I said before, but which you did not respond to, players with such anti-social tendencies ought to play one-player games instead (any thoughts?). This is the crux of the discussion.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Feb 4, 2017 8:41:41 GMT -5
At the end of the day there are player enforced rules as in any sport. A "code"...When this code is clearly violated then you can expect a response...Low blows and dirty play do have consequences. Take Top clans for instance: I won't play for one that actively tanks or clubs...I wont respect them either, and they should be actively ridiculed for their idiotic behavior. The RUIN clan is great example of player enforced code of conduct. They now are getting a ton of disrespect for getting caught...
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[AurN] perfectlyGoodInk
Aurora Clan Moderator
Posts: 729
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Favorite robot: Bishop from Aliens, although WALL-E is a close second
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Feb 4, 2017 8:44:33 GMT -5
Guys, I hate to say this, but you will not win this argument. It's like telling small children, it is wrong to keep the toys in kindergarden only for themselves. They have the right to and just can't understand, why they should share with others. Right or wrong doesn't matter here. It is sad, but whenever there is a way to exploit, some people think, it is legit to do so... I can't have been the only influence, but you'll notice that one of the strongest opponents of clubbing and tanking these days is ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ -- who used to club. I imagine WikiKittens probably played a much bigger role in convincing him to change his mind, but I would like to think this thread had a little something to do with it as well. I also had a discussion on Discord before the new MM using similar arguments where a clubber/farmer actually thanked me, saying that they honestly had never thought of it that way before.
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bearre
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Post by bearre on Feb 4, 2017 8:48:20 GMT -5
Guys, I hate to say this, but you will not win this argument. It's like telling small children, it is wrong to keep the toys in kindergarden only for themselves. They have the right to and just can't understand, why they should share with others. Right or wrong doesn't matter here. It is sad, but whenever there is a way to exploit, some people think, it is legit to do so... This is unfortunately true. The tankers know that they are ruining other peoples matches, they know that they are exploiting the system, they know they are despised by the vast majority of players, they don't care. All that matters to them is their own short term gain, and perhaps a feeling of superiority that they are "beating the system". You are not going to be able to convince a person with no sense of morality to act in an ethical manner. Peer pressure will not work on one who falsely believes himself to be superior to those around him. This is why societies have police and populated prisons. The only way you are going to end the tanking issue is to identify them and remove them from the population. Having just lost a close and hard fought match that went down to the wire only to find we had two squad members with 0-0-0 stats; I would also like to see them removed from the gene pool.
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[AurN] perfectlyGoodInk
Aurora Clan Moderator
Posts: 729
Karma: 556
Platform: Android
Clan: leader of Aurora Nova [AurN]
League: Gold
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Bishop from Aliens, although WALL-E is a close second
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Feb 4, 2017 9:00:17 GMT -5
While that may be true of most, the ones that feel the need to defend the practice must care what others think of it and of them.
Most people who don't seem to care what others think are usually just pretending. Humans are, by their very nature, social creatures. Why else are we all here?
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