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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 29, 2017 11:35:22 GMT -5
Click here to read the Pixo Release Summary:Start: mid December with next update Daily task: 1 daily task being removed. Current "First wins" bonus: Removed Supply DropYou get supply drop every 3 hours and can store 4 of them so you need to access every 12 hours to keep it running at full efficiency. Prizes are FIXED based on your league and will include Silver, Keys and Components. The first block of components will be Kumiho but this will change "every month or so"
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Post by NerFB on Nov 29, 2017 11:47:32 GMT -5
Errr, is this supposed to deter Tanking or something? It’s a bit generous (so looking for the catch) and removes any incentive to just do the dailies.
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Nov 29, 2017 12:11:28 GMT -5
I think it looks great, and if it subliminally removes tanking as an option for some people, even better.
Looks like the daily quests are going to be fading away to be replaced by loot boxes, which i'm fine with.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 29, 2017 12:32:05 GMT -5
Thanks for posting... will take a look at the release.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 29, 2017 12:33:31 GMT -5
It does sound generous. Fingers crossed that it comes out as good as it sounds.
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 29, 2017 12:56:55 GMT -5
It's a step in the right direction. And quite generous .. so I wonder if they prepare for the next round of OP bots that will set you back in excess of $1000 per piece .. you get a $5 per day free .. yeaih .. but you still need 200 days to finish .. yikes .. but let's try to stay positive here ..
One thing I don't like is that the components are fixed, and Pixonic gets to choose. So in the first month, everyone gets a (part of) Kumiho. Then Scourge. Then Storm. Then Hover. You get the picture.
Also, the black market isn't going anywhere, but it may be a lot easier to make significant progress there. With the free bronze chests and the extra keys from the crates it seems every somewhat active player should be able to get to the superchest each month and get their fourth Galahad.
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 29, 2017 13:40:03 GMT -5
A little over a month to get a free Kumiho. I can live with that.
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Post by hi5 on Nov 29, 2017 14:37:15 GMT -5
With the free bronze chests and the extra keys from the crates it seems every somewhat active player should be able to get to the superchest each month and get their fourth Galahad. [ I LOL’d at that last part.
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Post by hi5 on Nov 29, 2017 14:50:57 GMT -5
I’m a cynic when it comes to Pix, as every new feature has always sounded great until it’s actually live - then comes the “oh, didn’t see that coming”. Once again, this sounds good but I’m looking for the smelly underside. This caught my eye: “This is the part of a bigger plan: we’re moving all direct gold income towards Battle Rewards and Supply Drops (in the form of Black Market keys).“ Almost sounds like the steady Au from daily tasks will go away and the only way to get it will be damage/cap rewards for matches and randomly getting it via BM. Kinda makes me happy I haven’t spent any Au on the daily deals and only spent WSP. Time to start hording gold again? Edit: and wouldn’t this still incentivize players to tank so they can mine gold against lower competition? I guess that assumes the value of gold goes back up, considering it’s been nerfed with the new component structure. Edit 2: More on this here war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/17299/gold-task-after-3-update
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Post by hyderier on Nov 29, 2017 15:34:34 GMT -5
A little over a month to get a free Kumiho. I can live with that. 6 months to get hangar full of Kumihos? That's about same time as getting just 2 Ancilots. Not going to happen. There is going to be a catch.
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Post by noobcake on Nov 29, 2017 16:50:01 GMT -5
This looks extremely generous. It could go a long way to heal the pain from the last few months. As with all Pixo announcements, let's wait and see how it is actually rolled out.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 29, 2017 19:07:29 GMT -5
This makes me think the last few months may have just been about milking the whales and now they are putting the game back on track.
It all comes down to bot and weapon releases. As long as all releases are now niche releases like the Storm and hover and not OP rubbish like ST and Haechi the game can settle down and we can all get on with it.
Fingers crossed.
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Post by Roninsedge on Nov 29, 2017 19:39:30 GMT -5
I'm stoked about this. I play the Amazon servers and am playing at Champion. That means one component item every month for me. One problem is I still need gold for my fifth slot and relying on the BM is worrisome. Hope the Xmas event is good to me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 19:54:53 GMT -5
I'd rather skip the extra silver and retain the extra daily task. 30 gold is better than a mediocre silver increase.
Keys, is pretty good, however, with the junk dropping...more keys / silver / random dross, not overly worth jumping for joy about.
Kumiho. It's the least OP bot from the OP bots. I doubt they'll be as generous with the time / drops with the better ones.
Going back to the Daily tasks, this is just going to really hit the newbie players. Getting gold for their 4th / 5th slot is going to take them way way longer.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 29, 2017 20:31:11 GMT -5
I'd rather skip the extra silver and retain the extra daily task. 30 gold is better than a mediocre silver increase. Keys, is pretty good, however, with the junk dropping...more keys / silver / random dross, not overly worth jumping for joy about. Kumiho. It's the least OP bot from the OP bots. I doubt they'll be as generous with the time / drops with the better ones. Going back to the Daily tasks, this is just going to really hit the newbie players. Getting gold for their 4th / 5th slot is going to take them way way longer. I submit that giving motivation for players to play in the highest league possible is the single best change for newbies we've seen. They also go on to say that game rewards will be changing for the better
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 20:36:01 GMT -5
I'd rather skip the extra silver and retain the extra daily task. 30 gold is better than a mediocre silver increase. Keys, is pretty good, however, with the junk dropping...more keys / silver / random dross, not overly worth jumping for joy about. Kumiho. It's the least OP bot from the OP bots. I doubt they'll be as generous with the time / drops with the better ones. Going back to the Daily tasks, this is just going to really hit the newbie players. Getting gold for their 4th / 5th slot is going to take them way way longer. I submit that giving motivation for players to play in the highest league possible is the single best change for newbies we've seen. They also go on to say that game rewards will be changing for the better Isn't that exactly what they said last time too? Hoping for the best, expecting the Pix effect.
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Post by alteclp on Nov 29, 2017 21:26:15 GMT -5
I don't like the silver thing.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 29, 2017 22:24:40 GMT -5
I submit that giving motivation for players to play in the highest league possible is the single best change for newbies we've seen. They also go on to say that game rewards will be changing for the better Isn't that exactly what they said last time too? Hoping for the best, expecting the Pix effect. What they said last time was they would introduce a rewards system that rewards you more the higher your league and that is exactly what is being delivered. Now they are saying battle rewards will be buffed which irons out the only problem of 30 less gold per day. I like it!
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 29, 2017 22:46:51 GMT -5
Now if only pixo would cut out the shenannigans with the royale and the offers. Maybe the relationship with players can begin to heal. Pixo has been hellbent on destroying any trust it has with players. I cant see that being healthy for any business. I have purposely uninstalled War Robots on three tablets in my house because I dont want my kids exposed to BM/royale. It promotes the wrong kind of thinking/ associations in developing minds.
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Post by T34 on Nov 29, 2017 23:19:37 GMT -5
My take away from this whitepaper. In a specific order so the evaluation is more coherent.
Neutral - The communication has been seemingly improved. - Silver reward is not significant
TBD - The components. Hard to decipher exactly what they mean. There are two possibilities but the way I understand it is that they will be dropping one particular component per month. That means you have to be in expert or above to assemble a particular item. Also means that in about 1 years time you will assemble one of each component item. Longer if they keep on introducing new stuff. Helps to level the playing field but not sure if its enough. One of certain item is not enough. But probably was never designed/intended to create a fully leveled playing field. - Will the same components for the champs keep dropping after 19 days or they stop at 19 - This could be an indication of a yearly meta turn over. If so the value of this mechanism decreases. - BM key reward is neither here or there and it is totally up to Pix what on average players will walk away with after spinning. Any keys given away can be offset by the alteration of prizes on the wheel (dilution of items being paid out). Good not knowing the actual odds.
The bad - Gold will be harder to get. Cannot ascertain the implications of this at this stage. - Loss of 30 gold/per day is not insignificant and should not be underestimated (this bugs me – 11K au per year and the other 11K is likely to go as well. That’s 22K Au per year) - It will be harder to break into higher leagues for noobs if the distribution is effective - Too late for many
Tanking - This mechanism will not move a clubber who likes clubbing for the pleasure. Those with maxed out component gear in bronze will not move. - It could persuade a proportion of resource clubbers to move up should the mechanism be reasonable. I think many would move up but not sure if they would go to champs or pretend to be a hover bot ans stay around expert.
The good - Seems like a positive move perhaps in response to the public pressure. Fingers crossed.
this thing needs to be seen and felt to be understood. could have catches.
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Post by rdood on Nov 30, 2017 1:06:50 GMT -5
Will we still earn silver/gold at the end of a round? Or is this just replacing the reward system altogether
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 2:00:45 GMT -5
Will we still earn silver/gold at the end of a round? Or is this just replacing the reward system altogether No mention of it. Silver has to be kept for end of battle, else no one will be able to upgrade. As to if they phase gold out...who knows.
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Post by suntron on Nov 30, 2017 2:21:45 GMT -5
I await to get the final details before I decide. But one thing I didn't like from the screenshot was rewarding people for kills in Battle rewards. A Pix employee months ago wrote a good piece on why that was bad and didn't measure performance, e.g. You do 99% of damage someone comes in and finishes of while you are reloading. We all know it from the events.
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Post by moses on Nov 30, 2017 3:22:01 GMT -5
Will we still earn silver/gold at the end of a round? Or is this just replacing the reward system altogether No mention of it. Silver has to be kept for end of battle, else no one will be able to upgrade. As to if they phase gold out...who knows. Based on the text towards the end of the Pixo note it sounds like the plan is to get rid of gold daily task rewards completely: “There’s only one drawback: with Supply Drops ONE daily task with gold bonus is going away. This is the part of a bigger plan: we’re moving all direct gold income towards Battle Rewards and Supply Drops (in the form of Black Market keys)”
one goes when supply crates come, next goes when battle rewards come in the following release. At least that is how I read it.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 30, 2017 3:35:58 GMT -5
No mention of it. Silver has to be kept for end of battle, else no one will be able to upgrade. As to if they phase gold out...who knows. Based on the text towards the end of the Pixo note it sounds like the plan is to get rid of gold daily task rewards completely: “There’s only one drawback: with Supply Drops ONE daily task with gold bonus is going away. This is the part of a bigger plan: we’re moving all direct gold income towards Battle Rewards and Supply Drops (in the form of Black Market keys)”
one goes when supply crates come, next goes when battle rewards come in the following release. At least that is how I read it. End game rewards will be changed to "battle crates" but that is all we know.
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Post by [ツ] Beldanius on Nov 30, 2017 12:03:15 GMT -5
Now if only pixo would cut out the shenannigans with the royale and the offers....I have purposely uninstalled War Robots on three tablets in my house because I dont want my kids exposed to BM/royale. It promotes the wrong kind of thinking/ associations in developing minds. I have done the same. Once they added the permanent black market I deleted the game from my 9 year old's tablet.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 30, 2017 19:51:01 GMT -5
Aren't these kinds of crates now starting to draw legal scrutiny? Seems like they would be better off going with a less shady/lucrative model to avoid lawsuits and regulation that is already starting to come down on bigger titles.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 30, 2017 20:45:36 GMT -5
Aren't these kinds of crates now starting to draw legal scrutiny? Seems like they would be better off going with a less shady/lucrative model to avoid lawsuits and regulation that is already starting to come down on bigger titles. these are not "loot crates" as you do not buy them and the rewards are not random
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Post by asie on Dec 1, 2017 18:57:20 GMT -5
I seriously cannot understand why people claim this is great. They take or gold away, and give 「fluffernutter」ing silver. What the 「fluffernutter」? 「fluffernutter」, 「fluffernutter」 「fluffernutter」. Click here to read the Pixo Release Summary:Start: mid December with next update Daily task: 1 daily task being removed. Current "First wins" bonus: Removed Supply DropYou get supply drop every 3 hours and can store 4 of them so you need to access every 12 hours to keep it running at full efficiency. Prizes are FIXED based on your league and will include Silver, Keys and Components. The first block of components will be Kumiho but this will change "every month or so"
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Dec 1, 2017 19:14:34 GMT -5
Does it mean expert league got enought 10k Kumiho components in 29 days? Almost a month.
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