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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 12:08:57 GMT -5
I work at Google, I heard on Google Play developers forum that Pixonic is planning to come out with a Nuclear bot with a special Nuclear hardpoint. One push of the red button sends a Nuclear armed warhead up and blowing up all the reds inside blast radius in one shot. It's going to be some North Korean, Kim Jong Un bot only available to Russians and well, Kim Jong Un of course. Anyone else who wants one will have to buy special Nuclear keys at $100 each for a chance to spin to win it.
J/k btw hahahahaha
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Post by americanpilot8 on Oct 25, 2017 15:23:00 GMT -5
My suggestions include: Use weapons that outrange the Taran and the Orkans. Choose Domination rather than Beacon Rush. Sniper builds with aim locking weapons. If forced to fight close range, Thunders, Orkans, Tarans, Pinatas and Magnums. Don't forget to cap beacons, damage and kill the other opposing team members with the 'ordinary' bots. In other words, don't get too myopically focused on the dash bots. Continue to play the game 'regularly' in your best and optimum style to win. Pixonic: people use snipers against our p2w bots in domination. Hmm, what can we do to make the dash bots more OP? Make it so that people can’t choose to play domination! |
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 9, 2017 21:46:32 GMT -5
i built my whole squad in anticipation of dashbots and the newer weapons systems like ember and the upcoming exploding bot Most of the dashes seem to run short-range weapons like tarans and orkans. My solution to counter them. is pretty much the opposite to what most people seem to want to do. I ditched most energy weapons in favor of weapons that will take down an ancile and run the fastest, highest damage non-dashes in the game and equip them with medium and long-range kinetic weapons on the theory that taking down ancile helps everyone on the team.,
The best success I have with them is tempest carnage and tempest-punT lance on the big field since you can catch them starting at around 600m and just shred them to pieces before they get close enough to finish you. Carnage has enough mobility sometimes to backpeddle and get a second clip in.
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Post by Alpha on Nov 10, 2017 11:35:47 GMT -5
just keep your distance they are just like any other bot out there and they die just like any other bot.
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Nov 11, 2017 0:59:54 GMT -5
Can Inquisitor beat Dash Bots?
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 11, 2017 1:53:11 GMT -5
Can Inquisitor beat Dash Bots? I ran Haechi, Kumiho and Rogatka against them on the test server 1-on-1 and dominated them with the dashes and was 50-50 with the rog. When I ran them on the test server, I found that they had trouble with fast bots and that ember basically kills anything it touches but can be avoided with some difficulty in a Rog or easily in a dash. The ones I have seen in live games -- not too many b/c I am only diamond 1 -- have not lasted very long with or without ember. They are too big and their stealth attack draws way too much attention so every one I have seen has drawn an immediate double-or-triple team and died quickly rather than causing chaos. Regarding dashes, they don't have high HP but really their only weakness is that most of them run short-range weapons so you can take them out with silver weapons on a big field. The only non-dash counter I see are sustained shredding on a big field by a bot that has some maneuverability. Once you take down the ancile at range they are much more killable than they are with full orkans and full ancile inside of their range. |
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Nov 11, 2017 5:10:23 GMT -5
Can Inquisitor beat Dash Bots? I ran Haechi, Kumiho and Rogatka against them on the test server 1-on-1 and dominated them with the dashes and was 50-50 with the rog. When I ran them on the test server, I found that they had trouble with fast bots and that ember basically kills anything it touches but can be avoided with some difficulty in a Rog or easily in a dash. The ones I have seen in live games -- not too many b/c I am only diamond 1 -- have not lasted very long with or without ember. They are too big and their stealth attack draws way too much attention so every one I have seen has drawn an immediate double-or-triple team and died quickly rather than causing chaos. Regarding dashes, they don't have high HP but really their only weakness is that most of them run short-range weapons so you can take them out with silver weapons on a big field. The only non-dash counter I see are sustained shredding on a big field by a bot that has some maneuverability. Once you take down the ancile at range they are much more killable than they are with full orkans and full ancile inside of their range. I have one experience on canyon map. There is a kumiho and a haechi. I was on butch trebs. I shoot Kumiho at first time and make them on low HP or kill it. |
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Post by killingthetime on Nov 11, 2017 11:03:54 GMT -5
From my experience, the best bot against any kind of Dash bots with Tarans is a plasma Galahad. Galahad shield is 200k Hp and plus it health 120k, it enough to take a huge punishment while you are firing on Dash bot. Besides this, Galahad is a perfect corner shooter, I killed many Bulgasaries MK2 using my bot wisely. But against Dash bots with Orkans the Galahad is useless. Nevertheless, it quite possible to kill Dash bots/Orkans in long maps, just by keeping the distance and using the shield.
Other bots against Dashes is plasma Rogatka and Griffin. If you can keep distance they are best bots against Dashes with Orkans. I managed to kill two Haechi/Orkans and one Bulgasari/Orkans with one plasma Griffin in a single battle. Just fire when it 350 m distance and when Dash comes close just jump away and finish off it, but your setup should be at least 9-10 level.
Another bot that also can be a threat for Dashes of any setup is Carnage/Thunder.
I'm not sure about Fury/Zeus as it is slow (distance just 500m) and Bulgasari shield is very strong, but Trident and Trebuchet setup may be effective. And of course, Lance good against Taran Dashes (not sure against Bulgasari/Taran) and weak against Dashes with Orkans.
Some of my clan mates take off Bulgasari/Orkan-Taran with Cossack/Taran, so it is mostly about who run Dash bot noob or pro...
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Post by TheWWRNerdGuy on Nov 11, 2017 16:04:30 GMT -5
If they're unskilled, it's easy. All you need to do is use a Taran Rog (or a Cossack followed by something with good firepower) for Orkans, or a physical shield bot for energy weapons.
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Post by ₣₳₮₣ⱠɄ₣₣Ɏ₱Ɇ₦₲Ʉł₦ on Nov 12, 2017 4:41:01 GMT -5
May be the most uncanny idea, but once on Springfield I decided to spawn first with my my Double Ancile Carnage (yeah, yeah- judge me later) and to my luck, there was a Thunder Taran Lancelot that spawned in! We survived the whole match (duh) all because of my energy shield. The Superlot (3 Anciles + Lancelot = Superlot?) took out a Bulgasari, 2 Haechis, a Griffin, a Natasha, and I think a Stalker. Every single Dash bot had Orkans on it. If it weren't for me, that Lancelot would have been roast meat in 30 seconds.
But to be honest, a Superlot can wreck anything, not just dash bots.
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Post by thegrindergrinds on Nov 14, 2017 2:17:14 GMT -5
We all know that currently the Dashes are OP. So i decided to put this thread up so folks can share their experiences and suggestions about how to combat the Dash menace as it stands right now. And we all know that the Orkan Haechi is probably the most dangerous bot around right now so I shall start with some of my experiences with and against it. (I currently own 1 Haechi and 1 Bulgasari) __________ The Kuminho and the Haechi have insanely fast ability cool down times and as such are able to use Orkans super effectively while remaining generally out of harm's way. In most of my experiments, the only bot that could consistently face an Orkan Mk1 or Mk2 and have even the slightest chance of winning or hurting it badly was the TARAN ROG. The Tarans naturally bypassed the Haechi's energy shield and the Rog has enough ground speed as well as an excellent jump cool-down of it's own to match the Haechi in most of the maps as long as you stay away from open areas. Range awareness and management will also allow you to minimize damage as well. I have tried other permutations and so far the Taran Rog has been most consistent if piloted well. Dash ability aside, the Rog is more agile than the Haechi, which is currently the premier killer in the meta. Why not a PDB Griffin? It has more firepower right? While that may be true, the long cool down on the jump as well as the slow ground speed makes it a VERY tasty target for a fully loaded Orkan Haechi with 2 dashes stored. Do note however that if the Dash is carrying plasma or a scourge, ur in deeper trouble. then staying on the ground is better than jumping unless your jumps effectively take you behind cover. Play cat'n'mouse and corner shoot. Naturally, all this assumes a 1v1 battle ___________ I hope to provide more regarding other dash bot builds in the near future. Hello, There may be other posts similar to mine, but it's debatable about Haechi bots when you need to consider Bulgasaris as well. I have a Bulgasari lvl 12 with 3 lvl 12 Orkans. At first, a lot of players didn't know what to do other than just shoot at it. Needless to say, all Tarans(Terans?) did nothing to the body as the external shield took the damage. I could just walk up and wait for the 5 sec reload(usually a Fujin) to start. Most of the time take out the bot with little to no damage. Recently there's been a change of 1 Orkan with two energy wpns on the Fujin. This is a good combo, and more of a challenge imho. Also, with a little cleverness, I've taken out many Haechi bots and survived. In my opinion, Bulgasari can out do Haechi in a knife fight, if done correctly. |
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Post by anjian on Nov 14, 2017 5:25:11 GMT -5
Can Inquisitor beat Dash Bots? My favorite setup for the Inquisitor is Ancille with two Tarans. Call it the Ancillator. Or sometimes I refer to its as the Flying Ancille. I got two Kumihos, a Bulgasari and a Haechi. But I tend to use the Inquisitor as a mid to end game player where it has delivered and delivered close games. Its like a clutch player for me. When teams are on their last bots, seeing one is like facing an unwanted miniboss in a game for a wounded and tired team. The key however, is you need to know how to use it, and all that practice in the test server pays off when I finally got my own. Unlucky Haechi with shocktrains caught out in the open, and took facefulls of plasma.  I am not that impressed with the Bulgasari, the thick shield only protects a very narrow portion of the body and it apparently takes damage all the time. Especially splash damage. I personally feel that the Kumiho is not only a better robot than the Bulgasari, but also more survivable. Both bots however, are still vulnerable to splash damage, especially from RDB setups I feel that dash bots seem tailor made to blow away Griffins. Anticipating where they land, or where they are going to sneak into, then gets a full face of Orkans. My opinion, given the current environment, best bots to face a dash bot that isn't a dash bot or a long range or a mid range sniper, is an Ancilot with Tarans, Carnage with Zeus/Thunder/Tridents, and if you want to go cheap, Leo with an Ancille and Magnums. |
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 14, 2017 8:23:15 GMT -5
Can Inquisitor beat Dash Bots? My favorite setup for the Inquisitor is Ancille with two Tarans. Call it the Ancillator. Or sometimes I refer to its as the Flying Ancille. I got two Kumihos, a Bulgasari and a Haechi. But I tend to use the Inquisitor as a mid to end game player where it has delivered and delivered close games. Its like a clutch player for me. When teams are on their last bots, seeing one is like facing an unwanted miniboss in a game for a wounded and tired team. Must be tough winning matches with that weak hangar.  |
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Post by anjian on Nov 15, 2017 0:03:07 GMT -5
My favorite setup for the Inquisitor is Ancille with two Tarans. Call it the Ancillator. Or sometimes I refer to its as the Flying Ancille. I got two Kumihos, a Bulgasari and a Haechi. But I tend to use the Inquisitor as a mid to end game player where it has delivered and delivered close games. Its like a clutch player for me. When teams are on their last bots, seeing one is like facing an unwanted miniboss in a game for a wounded and tired team. Must be tough winning matches with that weak hangar. Roughly about 55 to 60% win rate on an all LvL 7 hanger, constantly facing LvL 9s and 11s. I need to level up my bots at least to 8 but only to the point I can keep my W/L ratio that will maintain me at Diamond and not move up to Expert. I just blew $80 on Nightstar and Thanatos on Mechwarrior Online so I probably won't be playing my War Robots hanger much. |
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Nov 15, 2017 3:41:07 GMT -5
My favorite setup for the Inquisitor is Ancille with two Tarans. Call it the Ancillator. Or sometimes I refer to its as the Flying Ancille. I got two Kumihos, a Bulgasari and a Haechi. But I tend to use the Inquisitor as a mid to end game player where it has delivered and delivered close games. Its like a clutch player for me. When teams are on their last bots, seeing one is like facing an unwanted miniboss in a game for a wounded and tired team. Must be tough winning matches with that weak hangar. 3 dash bots and 1 inquisitor is not a weak hangar for me. |
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Post by Alpha on Nov 15, 2017 6:03:09 GMT -5
Must be tough winning matches with that weak hangar. 3 dash bots and 1 inquisitor is not a weak hangar for me. Guess you do not know what sarcasm or being sarcastic means?  |
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Nov 15, 2017 9:56:49 GMT -5
3 dash bots and 1 inquisitor is not a weak hangar for me. Guess you do not know what sarcasm or being sarcastic means? ??  ?, ? ?? |
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 15, 2017 13:06:08 GMT -5
Guess you do not know what sarcasm or being sarcastic means? ?? ?, ? ?? He means that I was teasing the person b/c his hangar is obviously super strong. ? ??, ?. |
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Nov 15, 2017 18:00:38 GMT -5
Aren't it said "I don't know what you mean" and you said "Your English better than me"? |
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Post by anjian on Nov 16, 2017 5:27:46 GMT -5
Must be tough winning matches with that weak hangar. 3 dash bots and 1 inquisitor is not a weak hangar for me. Not really that strong considering my hanger is mostly level 7 including weapons, often facing level 10 to 12 stuff, some of whom are from tankers. I am not going to spend gold anymore just to quickly level the stuff, other than to start a new upgrade before I go to sleep. Furthermore its not really a balanced hanger, purely skirmish and support, but lack the ability to assault and defend territory, which the Ancilot remains king. A Leo with Magnums and an Ancille can still post problems. In fact my damage is down, because I spend a lot of time dashing away under fire and chasing beacons because of heavy mech intensive teams too slow or just too lazy to bother going after beacons. Other than being a beacon running and skirmishing team, a dash hanger is also a fireteam hanger, moving quickly to address weaknesses in your line, and to exploit weaknesses in the enemy team's line. Actually my combat hanger is now 4 dash bots (Kumiho x 2, Haechi, Bulgasari) and the Inquisitor which I am testing for Beacon Rush. Leaning in making the hanger only temporary, as I may consider mixing my trusty Lancelots, then making rotations among the mix. |
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 17, 2017 9:53:02 GMT -5
You'll be okay vs the Scourges if you stay at 300-350 and corner shoot/abuse cover. Breaking the Scourges lock on also causes a 3 second lock on time. I talked about it a bit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/walkingwarrobots/comments/6xtx0n/psa_bulgasaris_weakness/ Generally the Scourges are better on a Bulgasari. That means something with a plate and rockets will counter them. A key thing to remember is to sit at your optimal range, as the closer you get to the Scourges the more damage you'll take. I have one on a Pun Griff. Seems like scourges hit about as hard as PunT's at every range. They just have a shorter hit cycle and cooldown, can hit from slightly longer and always hit once you get it locked. But they don't do 2x vs armor and ignor ancile. |
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 17, 2017 9:59:45 GMT -5
3 dash bots and 1 inquisitor is not a weak hangar for me. Not really that strong considering my hanger is mostly level 7 including weapons, often facing level 10 to 12 stuff, some of whom are from tankers. I am not going to spend gold anymore just to quickly level the stuff, other than to start a new upgrade before I go to sleep. Actually my combat hanger is now 4 dash bots (Kumiho x 2, Haechi, Bulgasari) and the Inquisitor which I am testing for Beacon Rush. Leaning in making the hanger only temporary, as I may consider mixing my trusty Lancelots, then making rotations among the mix. That hangar with all lvl 7 gear is still way OP against classic 9-12 and Mk2 bots with better gear. You'd be one of biggest dogs in iOS E1 or E2 or so with that hangar, even with the low level wpns. |
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 26, 2017 18:36:29 GMT -5
Buy Shocktrains.
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Post by nocluevok on Nov 26, 2017 19:05:42 GMT -5
And don't, for the love of handjobs, show fear and timidity...The good Dash pilot will use it to tie up two or three of the team with out firing a shot...Go get the frikin' things, hunt them mercilessly like they shaved your eyebrows while you were passed out...and only then will the skill set to take them down emerge. Case in point: I learned how to take down an Ancilot with a Rog after many steam rollings and endless Lance waves..Rog Vs. Lance, which seems mismatched, is very doable once the technique is practiced and honed.. I think Deplorable "Top Gun" Mech Weapons and Tactics School is coming...Once Custom matches arrive..Call sign "Icemelder"..you can be my Quad Treb Butch anytime! I feel the need...the need for...? a short Nap LOL. I hunt them with my MK2 lvl 12 Orkan Rog. Rhinos are even easier. |
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Post by rollinfknpower on Dec 3, 2017 2:52:16 GMT -5
Time to put this thread to rest. If you haven't figured out how to coexist with dash bots yet then this isn't your game. Coexisting is the proper word. Dealing with them is living with them. Just another bot folks. Killed many, been killed by many. Play the team game and accept that this is the game now
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Post by endyu on Dec 6, 2017 16:00:29 GMT -5
Unless it's a shocktrain dash, I've found them okay to deal with. They might be strong, but they have their weaknesses.
I have three bots that I've used to deal with the dashes: Tarancilot, Rogatka+Tarans, and my Thunder Carnage
Yes, they are strong, but I think they're far from OP if equipped with Orkans and Tarans. It's the shocktrain that's a problem... I've only faced two shocktrain dashes and it was the most annoying thing ever. The only thing I can think of to deal with a shocktrain Dash that I'm capable of mustering together right now is a Lancelot with Zeus + 2 Scourges. I have one scourge and I'm at like 8800/10000 for the second.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 23:33:26 GMT -5
Time to put this thread to rest. If you haven't figured out how to coexist with dash bots yet then this isn't your game. Coexisting is the proper word. Dealing with them is living with them. Just another bot folks. Killed many, been killed by many. Play the team game and accept that this is the game now This is out ~3 months! Put 5 plasma Griifins in your hanger, I heard they tremble when they see one. |
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Post by stefanmoneymaker on Dec 11, 2017 19:35:24 GMT -5
Definitely need like an ancile on a Lancelot. At least that is what i use. But dash bots are very annoying without an energy shield
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Post by dobravery on Dec 13, 2017 14:18:26 GMT -5
I can beat a Haechi 1v1 with a Taran Hover. The closer you can get, the less they can dash to cover once you go vertical. You have to be accurate shooting down with Tarans. Shooting Orkans at you will be more difficult. This works well later in the battle when the snipers are more or less gone. It's an approach where you have to be more concerned with the what else is in the area, than the Haechi itself.
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Post by enchantedpotato on Dec 14, 2017 20:19:14 GMT -5
We all know that currently the Dashes are OP. So i decided to put this thread up so folks can share their experiences and suggestions about how to combat the Dash menace as it stands right now. And we all know that the Orkan Haechi is probably the most dangerous bot around right now so I shall start with some of my experiences with and against it. (I currently own 1 Haechi and 1 Bulgasari) __________ The Kuminho and the Haechi have insanely fast ability cool down times and as such are able to use Orkans super effectively while remaining generally out of harm's way. In most of my experiments, the only bot that could consistently face an Orkan Mk1 or Mk2 and have even the slightest chance of winning or hurting it badly was the TARAN ROG. The Tarans naturally bypassed the Haechi's energy shield and the Rog has enough ground speed as well as an excellent jump cool-down of it's own to match the Haechi in most of the maps as long as you stay away from open areas. Range awareness and management will also allow you to minimize damage as well. I have tried other permutations and so far the Taran Rog has been most consistent if piloted well. Dash ability aside, the Rog is more agile than the Haechi, which is currently the premier killer in the meta. Why not a PDB Griffin? It has more firepower right? While that may be true, the long cool down on the jump as well as the slow ground speed makes it a VERY tasty target for a fully loaded Orkan Haechi with 2 dashes stored. Do note however that if the Dash is carrying plasma or a scourge, ur in deeper trouble. then staying on the ground is better than jumping unless your jumps effectively take you behind cover. Play cat'n'mouse and corner shoot. Naturally, all this assumes a 1v1 battle ___________ I hope to provide more regarding other dash bot builds in the near future. Thanks. That seems rational, those f**kers turn the battle in Gold. I will save for one now, because they absolutely wreck my gareth |
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