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Post by stokr on Aug 17, 2017 16:54:59 GMT -5
I went to the other board. SSDD...so to speak.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Aug 17, 2017 16:56:42 GMT -5
I went to the other board. SSDD...so to speak. ... but with firetrucks!
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Post by Russel on Aug 17, 2017 17:16:36 GMT -5
The more the merrier!
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 17, 2017 17:35:09 GMT -5
It's not an alternative site .. it's an alternate Forum.
Nor is it supposed to be in any kind of competition with existing media. If it turns out to be favoured, then that is by public decision and not by a better marketing strategy.
I can tell that those who defame, both the new Forum and its Creator, have not been to nor are they Members. Those defamatory remarks are made without cause or reason.
But it is those same types of remarks that have been used against existing Members of this Forum that will cause an exodus to other platforms and other sources of media.
This Thread was created to inform of a new alternate Forum, only. But it has been sullied by toxic statements that are clearly designed derail the intentions of the OP and the goodwill of the Administrators and Moderators of this Forum.
So, if you want to know what or the alternate Forum is like, check it out but with an open mind. If you aren't able to do so .. wait until you can.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 17:46:35 GMT -5
ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ not sure if you're trolling or not however if your honest intent was to start this thread to make people aware of the new forum, good on you. Just to clear up a couple things you said though. First, yes the main difference in between forums will indeed be moderation from what I can tell. However you saying that this forum does not allow people to say bad things about Pixonic or game changes without being banned is indeed false. I know you're new here but take a look at some past threads and you'll see that plenty of bad things have been said and those members are still around. Second, I don't think the intent of this forum was to allow vote rigging to happen in the recent Mr./Mrs. Influence competition as someone was banned. To say that this forum allows vote rigging and the other will not leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm staying out of that discussion from here on out as I don't have all the facts and I trust that the mod/admin team made a decision that was was deemed appropriate from the facts they had. Ultimately I'm glad there are multiple places one can go to obtain information and discuss this game. With that being said I wish the new forum the best of luck and hope that this thread gets less salty going forward. Happy hunting!
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 17, 2017 18:04:51 GMT -5
Will vote-rigging be OK on the new forum? Because that was the only way I could have won Most Influential, and I'd like another crack at it. -Amid As far as I am aware of, it is only allowed here. The other forum will not allow any such thing. Except it WASN'T allowed here, hence the story of the genesis of the new forum. C'mon man, be better than this.
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Post by tonyfla on Aug 17, 2017 18:26:24 GMT -5
Can't believe you guys are ignoring the real crisis here...people claiming Coke is better than Pepsi.
We should be using enhanced interrogation to find out exactly who's behind the plot to spread these damnable lies. I suspect it's the Olsen twins. They're a pretty sketchy pair.
Wake up, people. Wake up!!
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Post by Danny Linguini on Aug 17, 2017 18:57:53 GMT -5
It's not an alter native site .. it's an alter nate Forum. Nor is it supposed to be in any kind of competition with existing media. If it turns out to be favoured, then that is by public decision and not by a better marketing strategy. I can tell that those who defame, both the new Forum and its Creator, have not been to nor are they Members. Those defamatory remarks are made without cause or reason. But it is those same types of remarks that have been used against existing Members of this Forum that will cause an exodus to other platforms and other sources of media. This Thread was created to inform of a new alter nate Forum, only. But it has been sullied by toxic statements that are clearly designed derail the intentions of the OP and the goodwill of the Administrators and Moderators of this Forum. So, if you want to know what or the alter nate Forum is like, check it out but with an open mind. If you aren't able to do so .. wait until you can. Alternate, alternative, now you're nitpicking just to be argumentative. For the record, I did check it out, before I had any idea who was behind it, and I'm not defaming anybody, I'm just calling it like I see it. I have no stake in any if this -- I don't care a whit who visits one forum or the other or both. But the behavior of SOME individuals here defending it and its reason for being certainly supports MY OPINION. Do I need to qualify every statement I make here as 'my opinion'? Would that make people feel better? No, 「fluffernutter」 it, I have no reason to defend or justify my opinions. But the more responses I see here, the more I believe my opinion is pretty much on target. And that's all I'm gonna say about it because I've already wasted more time on it than it's worth.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Aug 17, 2017 19:03:00 GMT -5
Can't believe you guys are ignoring the real crisis here...people claiming Coke is better than Pepsi. We should be using enhanced interrogation to find out exactly who's behind the plot to spread these damnable lies. I suspect it's the Olsen twins. They're a pretty sketchy pair. Wake up, people. Wake up!! I only have one thing to say in response to this, this folly: RC Cola. And Kardashian. Oops, that's two things.
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Post by Poopface on Aug 17, 2017 19:31:13 GMT -5
I'm thrilled to report that after 25 years wandering in the dark, I have found a store nearby that actually sells RC!
Now, if only they'd start making Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle pudding pies again (and resurrect good ol' Ronny) it'd be like the good old days!
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Aug 17, 2017 19:49:02 GMT -5
Can't believe you guys are ignoring the real crisis here...people claiming Coke is better than Pepsi. We should be using enhanced interrogation to find out exactly who's behind the plot to spread these damnable lies. I suspect it's the Olsen twins. They're a pretty sketchy pair. Wake up, people. Wake up!! I only have one thing to say in response to this, this folly: RC Cola. And Kardashian. Oops, that's two things. The horror in this post is petrifying. To say that RC Cola is better than anything.. you probably like Mr Pibb too don't you? And Kardashians over Olson twins? Well, that's like comparing RC Cola to 7up. Neither is great, but I guess I'll take it if there's nothing else on the shelf.
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Post by seanh on Aug 17, 2017 19:52:57 GMT -5
Whoa, I seen a movie about this, in fact here is 1 minute 42 seconds of it, that if watched with the correct mindset will explain all (just mentally replace Roman's with Pixonic)...
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Post by Strayed on Aug 17, 2017 20:10:13 GMT -5
No, it isn't. Dude, just stop. Your four reasons for banning him were: -he cheated with votes: there was picture evidence that someone else did here: warrobots.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkangel12S/Hard_Evidence-he flamed his opponent: not from what I read in the voting thread -he accused an entire clan of cheating: what I saw on the thread was him saying they voted, i thought voting was the point -he harassed a mod: I saw him admit to that so I'd assume that's true So one of the four things, harassing a mod, was true. it wasn't public unless the thread was deleted so it must have been through pm. So pms were grounds for a ban. Am I just confused or what? It seems that you don't know the full story here. 1. Diego or whatever his name was already banned on August 15, two days before miljapi was banned. The 15 sockpuppet she created all had the same up address, which means that he most likely did not know how to use a vpn. During that two day period after he was banned, there were still sockpuppets coming in. In addition, we do have people who sent in evidence that mijapi sockpuppeted. For the sake of their wishes for privacy, I will not be mentioning their names. 2. Actually, yes, he did. He did so in a pm. However, due to the wishes of the recipient, I will not be sharing them. 3. He accused a clan of cheating in a separate thread. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/12448/recent-forum-contests4. After he was banned, he created an alt which he then used to harass a mod. That alt was then banned. So yes, harassment is grounds for a ban. However, a strongly worded letter or constructive criticism is very different from a personal attack, and thus, is not grounds for a ban. If you just want to advertise the new forum, I suggest that you do so already. Mijapi is trying to create a forum with looser rules, that is a noble idea for which I commend him; however, you are acting as a representative of that forum. By attempting to smear mud on this forum, all you are doing is giving others a bad impression of that forum, as evidenced by several replies in this thread. So if you want to advertise the new forum, then do it already instead of farting around and slinging mud. As a side note, Coke is better than Pepsi, fight me mate.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Aug 17, 2017 20:14:25 GMT -5
... Snip.... And that's all I'm gonna say about it because I've already wasted more time on it than it's worth. Yup... I'm all out of troll food too. Rather talk bots, personally. ??
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Post by SuperHero on Aug 17, 2017 20:16:43 GMT -5
No, it isn't. Dude, just stop. Your four reasons for banning him were: -he cheated with votes: there was picture evidence that someone else did here: warrobots.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkangel12S/Hard_Evidence-he flamed his opponent: not from what I read in the voting thread -he accused an entire clan of cheating: what I saw on the thread was him saying they voted, i thought voting was the point -he harassed a mod: I saw him admit to that so I'd assume that's true So one of the four things, harassing a mod, was true. it wasn't public unless the thread was deleted so it must have been through pm. So pms were grounds for a ban. Am I just confused or what? *sigh* I have tried my best not to get involved in this thread except when blatant misinformation was being dished out by honeynut. I don't know who Battle Tested is, but he's obviously a sock-puppet based on his fantastic knowledge of the forum even though he has only been around a short period of time. Finally, the fact that he feels that PMs result in bans actually make it blatantly clear who this person might be, as very few have been banned due to PMs, and that is only because those PMs were insulting and harassing. All the mods who had chimed in had welcomed the new forum, but it was various users who weighed in on the credibility of the new forum as someone banned here is one of the "founders" of the other one. So here goes: -he cheated with votes: there was picture evidence that someone else did here: warrobots.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkangel12S/Hard_Evidence It has already been proven that while someone else did the actual rigging, he had PM-ed various people asking/suggesting that they do as such. It's similar to ordering someone to commit a crime for your interests (Godfather lol). Even if the he did not personally commit the crime, he is still guilty of the crime and for perpetuating it. The most amazing thing is that you have blatantly missed the point that rigging is NOT allowed here and the person who "masterminded it" was banned for it. WORSE STILL, that person is now a founding member of the forum that you are advertising.
-he flamed his opponent: not from what I read in the voting thread This was not done on the voting thread.
-he accused an entire clan of cheating: what I saw on the thread was him saying they voted, i thought voting was the point Again, this wasn't done on the thread. Worse still, he claimed it was unfair that the opponent had done so.
-he harassed a mod: I saw him admit to that so I'd assume that's true 'Nuff said on this issue. ________
I'm not a big fan of community members being accused of "going crazy". The only reason they are making noise is because the credibility of certain founders of the new forum are questionable at best.
The community members who have commented are justified in their comments considering that forums are built on moderation and the credibility and integrity of their mods. If one of the founding folks is someone who already has had his credibility and integrity questioned, it brings the credibility of the entire forum into question (we ourselves have had to remove mods before who had even less serious issues). If DarkAngel or Heathen Cat had been starting a forum, I'd have been cheering them on cos while I might not always agree with them, I believe in their cred and integrity.
And this doesnt even start to bring about the fact that another of founding members is also banned here for the same harassing and insulting behaviour (towards members as well as staff) as well as promoting and encouraging tanking.
I don't know about you, but I'd worry if my mods were the ones known for harassing and insulting behavior and known for finding loopholes both in forum and in-game.
Again, I have no issue with new forums or new avenues of gamer community. It excites me! But the credibility of the founders and staff play a big part in helping us know whether to trust it or feel safe.
On a separate note: KaneoheGrown and @heathencat , I'm sorry for being the cause of your current debate, but could you perhaps take it to PMs ot a different thread? It's a good discussion.
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Post by Poopface on Aug 17, 2017 20:32:55 GMT -5
Too.....many......colors.......
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Post by Paps on Aug 17, 2017 20:54:44 GMT -5
Dr. Pepper is the finest soda pop in the land.
You heretics.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Aug 17, 2017 20:59:18 GMT -5
Dr. Pepper is the finest soda pop in the land. You heretics. I've found Crystal Pepsi at a mini Mart by work... Crystal Pepsi and it's retro 90's feel beats Dr Pepper or Mr. Pibb!
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Post by SuperHero on Aug 17, 2017 21:06:32 GMT -5
FANTA
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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 17, 2017 21:09:59 GMT -5
I love that mijapi is front and center there saying that votes can't be rigged. ? I can tell that those who defame, both the new Forum and its Creator, have not been to nor are they Members. Those defamatory remarks are made without cause or reason. So, if you want to know what or the alter nate Forum is like, check it out but with an open mind. If you aren't able to do so .. wait until you can. It's probably bad that I'm excited by the idea that you might move entirely there to get away from the folks without an "open mind," isn't it?
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Post by llama4president on Aug 17, 2017 21:13:43 GMT -5
has only been around a short period of time. Finally, the fact that he feels that PMs result in bans actually make it blatantly clear who this person might be, as very few have been banned due to PMs, and that is only because those PMs were insulting and harassing. All the mods who had chimed in had welcomed the new forum, but it was various users who weighed in on the credibility of the new forum as someone banned here is one of the "founders" of the other one. So here goes: -he cheated with votes: there was picture evidence that someone else did here: warrobots.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkangel12S/Hard_Evidence It has already been proven that while someone else did the actual rigging, he had PM-ed various people asking/suggesting that they do as such. It's similar to ordering someone to commit a crime for your interests (Godfather lol). Even if the he did not personally commit the crime, he is still guilty of the crime and for perpetuating it. The most amazing thing is that you have blatantly missed the point that rigging is NOT allowed here and the person who "masterminded it" was banned for it. WORSE STILL, that person is now a founding member of the forum that you are advertising.
-he flamed his opponent: not from what I read in the voting thread This was not done on the voting thread.
-he accused an entire clan of cheating: what I saw on the thread was him saying they voted, i thought voting was the point Again, this wasn't done on the thread. Worse still, he claimed it was unfair that the opponent had done so.
-he harassed a mod: I saw him admit to that so I'd assume that's true 'Nuff said on this issue. ________
I'm not a big fan of community members being accused of "going crazy". The only reason they are making noise is because the credibility of certain founders of the new forum are questionable at best.
The community members who have commented are justified in their comments considering that forums are built on moderation and the credibility and integrity of their mods. If one of the founding folks is someone who already has had his credibility and integrity questioned, it brings the credibility of the entire forum into question (we ourselves have had to remove mods before who had even less serious issues). If DarkAngel or Heathen Cat had been starting a forum, I'd have been cheering them on cos while I might not always agree with them, I believe in their cred and integrity.
And this doesnt even start to bring about the fact that another of founding members is also banned here for the same harassing and insulting behaviour (towards members as well as staff) as well as promoting and encouraging tanking.
I don't know about you, but I'd worry if my mods were the ones known for harassing and insulting behavior and known for finding loopholes both in forum and in-game.
Again, I have no issue with new forums or new avenues of gamer community. It excites me! But the credibility of the founders and staff play a big part in helping us know whether to trust it or feel safe.
On a separate note: KaneoheGrown and @heathencat , I'm sorry for being the cause of your current debate, but could you perhaps take it to PMs ot a different thread? It's a good discussion.
Damn, i thought i would never ever go openly against Mods or the staff here. But when it's enough, it's enough. You can't possibly use Opposing colors next to each other! it's like tiny fists punch your eyes when you look at it i am officially asking the administration to disable most colors in Super-Hero's palette!
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Post by Muhlakai on Aug 17, 2017 21:24:50 GMT -5
You can't possibly use Opposing colors next to each other! it's like tiny fists punch your eyes when you look at it You should ABSOLUTELY be using Tapatalk. This board is so much nicer that way.
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Post by SuperHero on Aug 17, 2017 21:32:45 GMT -5
Damn, i thought i would never ever go openly against Mods or the staff here. But when it's enough, it's enough. You can't possibly use Opposing colors next to each other! it's like tiny fists punch your eyes when you look at it i am officially asking the administration to disable most colors in Super-Hero's palette! BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Sorry.... I was so passionate about it but didnt wanna go all CAPS every single time. Where's my puking rainbow gif when i need it? And little do most folks know that I'm also the only mod with admin powers as well. *evil laugh*. I just dont use them.
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Post by llama4president on Aug 17, 2017 21:34:53 GMT -5
Btw, i have always been a fan of keeping personal accounts and administration/moderation accounts separated.
Something it's your personal account with which write things around, something else is an account for a responsibility role.
I believe in the anonimity of Responsibility roles, meaning, accounts created for that purpose and reason. I know, it sounds like a job, and bad, but it helps keeping "feelings and emotions" away from the roles(both ways, receiving and giving), and mostly helping the staff doing a better (and easier) job.
About the new forum, i'd wish admins and mods kept a different name just for those roles, just for giving a new air and nothing else. If something is to bloom into something good, probably would receive a more neutral and fair judgement if it wasn't tied to specific names. So that people can judge the work from its results and not for its identities.
I am pretty sure that both names that can be in question, before being banned and classified as "bad persons", were considered valuable and respected contributors. And what i liked were probably their posts, what they brought to the community.
Errors do happens, ppl do ?poo-poo? in life everyday, i try to keep an open mind because good things can come even from people with a past.
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Post by SuperHero on Aug 17, 2017 21:48:09 GMT -5
Btw, i have always been a fan of keeping personal accounts and administration/moderation accounts separated. Something it's your personal account with which write things around, something else is an account for a responsibility role. I believe in the anonimity of Responsibility roles, meaning, accounts created for that purpose and reason. I know, it sounds like a job, and bad, but it helps keeping "feelings and emotions" away from the roles, and mostly helping the staff doing a better job. About the new forum, i'd wish admins and mods kept a different name just for those roles, just for giving a new air and nothing else. If something is to bloom into something good, probably would receive a more neutral and fair judgement if it wasn't tied to specific names. So that people can judge the work from its results and not for its identities. I am pretty sure that both names that can be in question, before being banned and classified as "bad persons", were considered valuable and respected contributors. And what i liked were probably their posts, what they brought to the community. Errors do happens, ppl do ?poo-poo? in life everyday, i try to keep an open mind because good things can come even from people with a past. Those are some great points and I applaud your graciousness. However, this allows for a certain amount of hypocrisy and deception. That is why sockpupetting is considered a no-no. You could end up with a schizo where a mod behaves maturely and then switches to his "normal" account to be a douche and nobody is the wiser. Folks in roles of responsibility are forced to adhere to a higher standard and it's fair to expect that. Cops and politicians are not allowed to hide their names and identities after all. Their real life and work life are scrutinized with the same lens. This will always be the challenge of managing internet dialogues and online identities. I too believe in redemption and welcome it. We have had other community members who have been banned or have had major controversy surround them and have come back to become excellent contributors to this forum. But redemption also comes with repentance, an apology of some kind or at least an acknowledgement of wrong-doing. And in this case the folks mentioned have refused to accept responsibility for their actions and instead have chosen another path. I earnestly wish them all the best.
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Post by Gilded Wolf on Aug 18, 2017 0:10:05 GMT -5
Pineapple Fanta.
You're welcome.
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Post by Paps on Aug 18, 2017 0:29:12 GMT -5
Pineapple Fanta. You're welcome. Fair point. Pineapple Fanta is actually pretty good. Not Dr. Pepper good, but good enough that I got both in my fridge right now.
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 18, 2017 0:43:18 GMT -5
I love that mijapi is front and center there saying that votes can't be rigged. ? I can tell that those who defame, both the new Forum and its Creator, have not been to nor are they Members. Those defamatory remarks are made without cause or reason. So, if you want to know what or the alter nate Forum is like, check it out but with an open mind. If you aren't able to do so .. wait until you can. It's probably bad that I'm excited by the idea that you might move entirely there to get away from the folks without an "open mind," isn't it? .. and more Trolling That is what I've come to expect from this Forum.
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Post by wildboar on Aug 18, 2017 1:48:15 GMT -5
I find it sad that generous giveaway has led to this
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Aug 18, 2017 3:40:43 GMT -5
Pineapple Fanta. You're welcome. Fair point. Pineapple Fanta is actually pretty good. Not Dr. Pepper good, but good enough that I got both in my fridge right now. Me too!! Either with Bombay Rum.
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