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Post by frunobulax on Jan 3, 2017 7:36:32 GMT -5
From their facebook page:
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It's the first days of 2017 and some of your wishes are already coming true!
Rogatka, Gareth, Natasha, Leo and Vityaz will get their parameters altered! Rogatka will get both HP and speed increased. Gareth and Natasha will get faster, while Leo and Vityaz will be able to withstand more damage!
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Do we know specifics?
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Jan 3, 2017 7:51:12 GMT -5
Where have you been? Check the past test server notes or search around in the forums and War Robots Facebook page, BTW you forgot the Gekko buff, Ancile and Fujin shield buff, change in walking mechanics, decrease Zenit reload time and thats about all I remember plus what you mentioned
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 3, 2017 8:13:27 GMT -5
The Natasha is going to be real OP soon. No reason to buy the Fury.
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Post by Xification on Jan 3, 2017 10:41:17 GMT -5
The Natasha is going to be real OP soon. No reason to buy the Fury. And I can't wait for this time. Though one day I'll still buy a fury, just something about its 3 heavy hardpoints is quite alluring. Though I think a change that could make the fury still a viable option is instead of changing the Natasha's speed, why not just give her the ability to charge. It would make her more of a close range type of bot and the fury could still be mid to long range. And yes, I'll of course try the hated zenits on my Natasha. Hehe. Won't use them if they don't do any good though. |
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Post by Loop_Stratos on Jan 3, 2017 11:18:14 GMT -5
As someone who leads with Gareth, can't wait to see the speed buff. I have been annoyed(though not their intention) by stalkers that take all the beacons faster on certain maps. Makes me feel very slow.
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Post by Sybill on Jan 3, 2017 13:36:01 GMT -5
Shh.... Just sold my two 'Tashas. Not joking.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 15:33:59 GMT -5
As someone who leads with Gareth, can't wait to see the speed buff. I have been annoyed(though not their intention) by stalkers that take all the beacons faster on certain maps. Makes me feel very slow. I want a health buff to the gareth |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 3, 2017 18:26:46 GMT -5
hmmm... HP buff not really needed for Gary... at level 8, already, that little bugger will roll 58kmh with the shield disengaged. Mine is on its way to 9 now to get the current max speed of 60. If the HP (Level 9 is 65k with shield at 170k)was any higher it would get to the point that it is looking a tad OP. IMO.
More speed is fine, though. I agree that the Stalker Jocks tend to outrun me to the first beacon but I like that it would make the trek to the far beacons in SF and Yam that much more tolerable. And, frankly, he's a pita to hit when dodging and weaving, and if the shield is pointed to the attacker, he will usually get away before taking real damage, unless it is mid range splash or an unseen Hydra/spiral volley. Aphids don't keep up for the most part.
With his shield, if used well, it effectively has 3x listed bot HP, assuming we are not including splash damage into the mix. So, current HP is plenty, IMO, for a light bot that is supposed to be avoiding going 1v1 against most threats.
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Post by Curry Pot on Jan 3, 2017 18:32:34 GMT -5
Ugh... I just bought a Fury last week and I'm poor, and now there's a much cheaper option coming?
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Post by Loop_Stratos on Jan 3, 2017 19:23:36 GMT -5
Fury is still better than Nat. I will still keep the Carnage Trident. I don't have to eject just to snag beacons that way.
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Post by Strayed on Jan 3, 2017 19:30:24 GMT -5
Buffing the natasha's speed is a terrible choice. All it'll do is piss off fury users. Maybe buff its health so it's better able to slug it out with midrangers or something, but the fury is 5000 gold for a reason.
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Post by Duodec on Jan 3, 2017 19:58:08 GMT -5
Buffing the natasha's speed is a terrible choice. All it'll do is piss off fury users. Maybe buff its health so it's better able to slug it out with midrangers or something, but the fury is 5000 gold for a reason. Edit: Don't know what happened to my text. Here it is again. This, a thousand times this. I didn't pay 5000 gold for a bot negligibly better than a Natasha. At level 12 they'll be the same health, speed, and relatively the same firepower. Kinda wishing I had got two Lancelots instead of a Zeus Fury. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 3, 2017 20:22:07 GMT -5
Lol a charging natasha... that'll be the day...
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Post by jazzykat on Jan 3, 2017 20:36:17 GMT -5
Buffing the natasha's speed is a terrible choice. All it'll do is piss off fury users. Maybe buff its health so it's better able to slug it out with midrangers or something, but the fury is 5000 gold for a reason. The Natasha is utter crap right now (or did I miss something) The Fury still has 3 hardpoints for Tridents, the Natasha just has 2. I guess you could add spirals with the Tridents and it might not suck...? |
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Post by Duodec on Jan 3, 2017 21:03:45 GMT -5
Buffing the natasha's speed is a terrible choice. All it'll do is piss off fury users. Maybe buff its health so it's better able to slug it out with midrangers or something, but the fury is 5000 gold for a reason. The Natasha is utter crap right now (or did I miss something) The Fury still has 3 hardpoints for Tridents, the Natasha just has 2. I guess you could add spirals with the Tridents and it might not suck...? Nah, Pins I'd say. They don't hit that sweet spot of 500-600 meters, but they have the same mechanics as the Tridents. I don't see pilots shooting tridents one at a time at corners, then turning the bot to shoot spirals one at a time around the same corner. |
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Post by Strayed on Jan 3, 2017 21:57:50 GMT -5
Buffing the natasha's speed is a terrible choice. All it'll do is piss off fury users. Maybe buff its health so it's better able to slug it out with midrangers or something, but the fury is 5000 gold for a reason. The Natasha is utter crap right now (or did I miss something) The Fury still has 3 hardpoints for Tridents, the Natasha just has 2. I guess you could add spirals with the Tridents and it might not suck...? Not every single bot needs to be in the meta you know. |
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Post by Curry Pot on Jan 3, 2017 22:04:29 GMT -5
The Natasha is utter crap right now (or did I miss something) The Fury still has 3 hardpoints for Tridents, the Natasha just has 2. I guess you could add spirals with the Tridents and it might not suck...? Not every single bot needs to be in the meta you know. Agreed. The Fury costs 5000 gold for a reason. What's the point of premium bots if they aren't significantly better than their non premium competitors? |
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Post by Scorpio Snow on Jan 3, 2017 22:08:20 GMT -5
Maybe they could make Natasha have the same max speed, but lower speed at lv6 and increase 1km/h per level until reach the same max as Fury at level 12, while give the Fury its max speed right from the start?
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 3, 2017 22:39:52 GMT -5
Maybe they could make Natasha have the same max speed, but lower speed at lv6 and increase 1km/h per level until reach the same max as Fury at level 12, while give the Fury its max speed right from the start? Uh oh....I see disaster in this approach...repeating the oft criticized issue of the Gep having max speed at lvl1, resulting in millions of complaints on War Robots forums everywhere. All of the clubbers will be trading in their OP geps for full hangers of "speedy" Fury's. Soon everyone will long for the days when it was just "those darn clubbers in silver and bronze with mag geps" instead of "those darn silver and gold tier clubbers with hangers full of OP Fury's." WARNING: Humor intended. Not for serious discussion. |
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Jan 3, 2017 22:55:49 GMT -5
Back in my early days I ran a Nat with 2 Zenits and 2 Nories as a last resort/clean-up role. Before you laugh, I did get the occasional kills, and fair bits of damage. Zenits aren't worthless, but you need slow heavy targets and a brain to lead your aim with. Noricums, sadly, aren't worth tickling heavy bots with, and can be largely outran by anything with a bit of speed. Here's a kinda scary thought. A Nat with Aphids and Tridents. With a bit more strafing ability you might be able to use cover, and with 2x each cover mid range with homing and splash enough to matter. That sounds useful, much more so than the laughing stock roles the Nat has currently.
Some of y'all really wanna whine about taking one of the least 'meta' bots and giving her some thing more than the speed of a drunk cow? Hmph.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 23:40:24 GMT -5
The Natasha is going to be real OP soon. No reason to buy the Fury. And I can't wait for this time. Though one day I'll still buy a fury, just something about its 3 heavy hardpoints is quite alluring. Though I think a change that could make the fury still a viable option is instead of changing the Natasha's speed, why not just give her the ability to charge. It would make her more of a close range type of bot and the fury could still be mid to long range. And yes, I'll of course try the hated zenits on my Natasha. Hehe. Won't use them if they don't do any good though. Err...'if'? Do you need a congressional committee to confirm this? |
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Post by SGT D00M! on Jan 3, 2017 23:52:45 GMT -5
Natashas are OP and ruining the game...
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Post by Curry Pot on Jan 3, 2017 23:55:27 GMT -5
I suspect that the reason the devs initially made Nat suck so much is that the Fury has an extremely similar role, and the Fury costs premium currency while the Nat does not. One objective of the devs is to get revenue so that they can keep developing the game, and obviously you need players spending money on premium items for that to happen. If the Nat were in the meta, then no one would be buying furies, and the developers would lose revenue from players who would have otherwise dropped real money for the fury. Being able to afford a fury requires either playing for a really long time or real money, and both would be devaluated (which I believe the developers do not want) by allowing the Nat, which is essentially free, to take the role of the Fury. The Leo and Griffin are both allowed to be more viable than the Natasha because they have no premium counterparts to compete with.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 4, 2017 2:03:27 GMT -5
And I can't wait for this time. Though one day I'll still buy a fury, just something about its 3 heavy hardpoints is quite alluring. Though I think a change that could make the fury still a viable option is instead of changing the Natasha's speed, why not just give her the ability to charge. It would make her more of a close range type of bot and the fury could still be mid to long range. And yes, I'll of course try the hated zenits on my Natasha. Hehe. Won't use them if they don't do any good though. Err...'if'? Do you need a congressional committee to confirm this? I  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 2:36:23 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one ever brings up Raijin being faster than Fury.
Gotta be on team Fury for this one though, Natasha is already the "Poor Man's Fury". I would have preferred it if they just cut some bacon off her back and reduced her size/hitbox. It's fine being the slowest bot in the game the way Destrier is fine being the crappiest. It has a direct upgrade for premium currency, it's stats are fine as is.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 4, 2017 2:37:46 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one ever brings up Raijin being faster than Fury. raijin? Never heard of it  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 2:45:10 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one ever brings up Raijin being faster than Fury. raijin? Never heard of it Step 1: Buy Raijin Step 2: Paint it Blue Step 3: Equip 2 Anciles Step 4:  ¿¿¿ Step 5: Profit |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 4, 2017 2:58:40 GMT -5
Step 1: Buy Raijin Step 2: Paint it Blue Step 3: Equip 2 Anciles Step 4: ¿¿¿ Step 5: Profit Gotcha.      |
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Jan 4, 2017 5:31:55 GMT -5
The thing about the Fury is it completely dominates mid and long range, and there shouldn't just be one bot that dominates a certain range, they have to do something about as there are too many Fury Tridents on the fields nowadays and the theory that knifers would die out is actually becoming a reality if they dont either directly or indirectly nerf the Fury Trident, lets hope the buff the Anciles and Fujin shields should decrease Trident numbers therefore decreasing Fury users. Its competitors the Natasha and the Raijin just dont have the firepower, the Natasha doesnt have any advantage over the Fury other than being cheaper and the Raijin's only advanatage is defense, but this is not needed as you arent gonna burn through 300k worth of health in a mid/long range role. Maybe tone Fury speed down to what the Natasha's is and increase Natasha's speed to what the Fury's is now, then we should see more mix, the Fury still has the huge advantage of having 50% more firepower than the two other fools, just its slightly slower
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 4, 2017 6:20:56 GMT -5
The thing about the Fury is it completely dominates mid and long range, and there shouldn't just be one bot that dominates a certain range, they have to do something about as there are too many Fury Tridents on the fields nowadays and the theory that knifers would die out is actually becoming a reality if they dont either directly or indirectly nerf the Fury Trident, lets hope the buff the Anciles and Fujin shields should decrease Trident numbers therefore decreasing Fury users. Its competitors the Natasha and the Raijin just dont have the firepower, the Natasha doesnt have any advantage over the Fury other than being cheaper and the Raijin's only advanatage is defense, but this is not needed as you arent gonna burn through 300k worth of health in a mid/long range role. Maybe tone Fury speed down to what the Natasha's is and increase Natasha's speed to what the Fury's is now, then we should see more mix, the Fury still has the huge advantage of having 50% more firepower than the two other fools, just its slightly slower natasha has 2 light weapons. In general, 2 light weapons = 1 heavy weapon. Natasha has the same firepower as a fury, though 1/3 of that firepower can only be utilised at 500m. |
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