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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Jan 4, 2017 7:46:10 GMT -5
The thing about the Fury is it completely dominates mid and long range, and there shouldn't just be one bot that dominates a certain range, they have to do something about as there are too many Fury Tridents on the fields nowadays and the theory that knifers would die out is actually becoming a reality if they dont either directly or indirectly nerf the Fury Trident, lets hope the buff the Anciles and Fujin shields should decrease Trident numbers therefore decreasing Fury users. Its competitors the Natasha and the Raijin just dont have the firepower, the Natasha doesnt have any advantage over the Fury other than being cheaper and the Raijin's only advanatage is defense, but this is not needed as you arent gonna burn through 300k worth of health in a mid/long range role. Maybe tone Fury speed down to what the Natasha's is and increase Natasha's speed to what the Fury's is now, then we should see more mix, the Fury still has the huge advantage of having 50% more firepower than the two other fools, just its slightly slower natasha has 2 light weapons. In general, 2 light weapons = 1 heavy weapon. Natasha has the same firepower as a fury, though 1/3 of that firepower can only be utilised at 500m. 2 light weapons = 1 Heavy lol, 2 Pins = 1 Trident, nice, no, that is a horrible assumption, not all light weapons are equivalent to other heavies that are similar, if anything 2 lights = 1 medium as 2 Pins = 1 Tulu, 2 Pinatas = 1 Orkan, to some extent 2 Magnums = 1 Taran (debatable as they are quite different) If your statement were to be true, then in the next update EVERYONE would switch to a Natasha as it gives more variety as there are 4 weapons instead of 3  , you could say 1.5 mediums = 1 heavy, but this only applies towards PIns/Tulus/Tridents, but this is also wrong as 3 Tulus do more damage than 2 Tridents, they nearly do the damage of 3. The only weapons where you can use this 2 = 1 are the Pinata/Orkan and Pin/Tulu are the only exact replicas of each other, just better |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 4, 2017 8:02:28 GMT -5
natasha has 2 light weapons. In general, 2 light weapons = 1 heavy weapon. Natasha has the same firepower as a fury, though 1/3 of that firepower can only be utilised at 500m. 2 light weapons = 1 Heavy lol, 2 Pins = 1 Trident, nice, no, that is a horrible assumption, not all light weapons are equivalent to other heavies that are similar, if anything 2 lights = 1 medium as 2 Pins = 1 Tulu, 2 Pinatas = 1 Orkan, to some extent 2 Magnums = 1 Taran (debatable as they are quite different) If your statement were to be true, then in the next update EVERYONE would switch to a Natasha as it gives more variety as there are 4 weapons instead of 3 , you could say 1.5 mediums = 1 heavy, but this only applies towards PIns/Tulus/Tridents, but this is also wrong as 3 Tulus do more damage than 2 Tridents, they nearly do the damage of 3. The only weapons where you can use this 2 = 1 are the Pinata/Orkan and Pin/Tulu are the only exact replicas of each other, just better you are forgetting to factor in reload times. DPM wise 1.5 lights = 1 med, 2 lights = 1 heavy. |
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Jan 4, 2017 8:15:42 GMT -5
2 light weapons = 1 Heavy lol, 2 Pins = 1 Trident, nice, no, that is a horrible assumption, not all light weapons are equivalent to other heavies that are similar, if anything 2 lights = 1 medium as 2 Pins = 1 Tulu, 2 Pinatas = 1 Orkan, to some extent 2 Magnums = 1 Taran (debatable as they are quite different) If your statement were to be true, then in the next update EVERYONE would switch to a Natasha as it gives more variety as there are 4 weapons instead of 3 , you could say 1.5 mediums = 1 heavy, but this only applies towards PIns/Tulus/Tridents, but this is also wrong as 3 Tulus do more damage than 2 Tridents, they nearly do the damage of 3. The only weapons where you can use this 2 = 1 are the Pinata/Orkan and Pin/Tulu are the only exact replicas of each other, just better you are forgetting to factor in reload times. DPM wise 1.5 lights = 1 med, 2 lights = 1 heavy. That doesn't work for Gekkos and Trebs, I as talking about DPS, if this is going to go on DPM then yes you are right, but DPS wise then no you are wrong, you should include DPM in your original post to prevent confusion |
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Post by blognio on Jan 4, 2017 17:41:27 GMT -5
The Natasha is going to be real OP soon. No reason to buy the Fury. Although the triple trident is still super affective/effective Btw, have you played silver tier? I saw you once |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 4, 2017 17:46:06 GMT -5
The Natasha is going to be real OP soon. No reason to buy the Fury. Although the triple trident is still super affective/effective Btw, have you played silver tier? I saw you once Triple KWK's might become really strong for taking out both. Haven't played silver for while. Was this a couple months ago? |
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Post by blognio on Jan 4, 2017 17:57:49 GMT -5
Although the triple trident is still super affective/effective Btw, have you played silver tier? I saw you once Triple KWK's might become really strong for taking out both. Haven't played silver for while. Was this a couple months ago? Yes. You were playing a carnage and just afked |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 4, 2017 18:05:07 GMT -5
Triple KWK's might become really strong for taking out both. Haven't played silver for while. Was this a couple months ago? Yes. You were playing a carnage and just afked Must've crashed during the game. Was having that problem often. |
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Post by blognio on Jan 4, 2017 18:10:53 GMT -5
Aw...
hate it when that happens.
And I could've played with you too!
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Post by Strayed on Jan 4, 2017 21:18:02 GMT -5
you are forgetting to factor in reload times. DPM wise 1.5 lights = 1 med, 2 lights = 1 heavy. That doesn't work for Gekkos and Trebs, I as talking about DPS, if this is going to go on DPM then yes you are right, but DPS wise then no you are wrong, you should include DPM in your original post to prevent confusion DPM is basically DPSx60. There's no real complicated math between the two. If we're using the two trebs two geckos vs triple trebs analysis, the natasha actually has a higher dpm than the fury. If we're talking about two triple tridents vs dual tridents & crvs, then they're about equal. The point is, the fury costs 5000 gold for a reason, people who buy the fury do not want a natasha, they want a bot that is worth the time or money it takes to get the fury. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 21:23:49 GMT -5
2 light weapons = 1 Heavy lol, 2 Pins = 1 Trident, nice, no, that is a horrible assumption, not all light weapons are equivalent to other heavies that are similar, if anything 2 lights = 1 medium as 2 Pins = 1 Tulu, 2 Pinatas = 1 Orkan, to some extent 2 Magnums = 1 Taran (debatable as they are quite different) If your statement were to be true, then in the next update EVERYONE would switch to a Natasha as it gives more variety as there are 4 weapons instead of 3 , you could say 1.5 mediums = 1 heavy, but this only applies towards PIns/Tulus/Tridents, but this is also wrong as 3 Tulus do more damage than 2 Tridents, they nearly do the damage of 3. The only weapons where you can use this 2 = 1 are the Pinata/Orkan and Pin/Tulu are the only exact replicas of each other, just better you are forgetting to factor in reload times. DPM wise 1.5 lights = 1 med, 2 lights = 1 heavy. I thought 1.5 lights = 1 medium and 1.5 mediums = 1 heavy so 2.25 lights = 1 heavy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 21:24:24 GMT -5
And also, did anyone notice that the Natasha has Punisher Ts instead of punishers?
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Post by Curry Pot on Jan 4, 2017 23:08:05 GMT -5
Yes, and it was also going at the same speed as a Gareth. Definitely an actual gameplay change and not just the devs screwing around. lol
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Jan 5, 2017 4:55:54 GMT -5
That doesn't work for Gekkos and Trebs, I as talking about DPS, if this is going to go on DPM then yes you are right, but DPS wise then no you are wrong, you should include DPM in your original post to prevent confusion DPM is basically DPSx60. There's no real complicated math between the two. If we're using the two trebs two geckos vs triple trebs analysis, the natasha actually has a higher dpm than the fury. If we're talking about two triple tridents vs dual tridents & crvs, then they're about equal. The point is, the fury costs 5000 gold for a reason, people who buy the fury do not want a natasha, they want a bot that is worth the time or money it takes to get the fury. Oh ok thanks for clearing it up for me |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 19:48:33 GMT -5
It would be nice to have a tougher and faster Rog. Just a little faster, and maybe cut the jump cool down to 8sec. Health would be good too, its "100k" is not equal to other bots "100k".
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Post by Strayed on Jan 8, 2017 19:49:43 GMT -5
Put rog health at 135k - 140k and speed to 50kmph I guess?
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Jan 8, 2017 19:56:32 GMT -5
Put rog health at 135k - 140k and speed to 50kmph I guess? Why not giving it another hardpoint? Well, since we're buffing... |
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Post by Strayed on Jan 8, 2017 20:08:26 GMT -5
But where would we stick a light hardpoint? Between its legs?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 20:45:47 GMT -5
But where would we stick a light hardpoint? Between its legs? Lets not get vulgar boys! I was thinking about MW and the weapon setups. Think we should toss a permanant Molot on some of the bots. As an extra point - fixed though |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 9, 2017 10:11:29 GMT -5
But where would we stick a light hardpoint? Between its legs? Lets not get vulgar boys! I thinking about MW and the weapon setups. Think we should toss a permanant Molot on some of the bots. As an extra point - fixed though Fine... I won't make any "Is that a molot in your pocket..." jokes. Spoiled sport. |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 9, 2017 10:20:07 GMT -5
Lets not get vulgar boys! I thinking about MW and the weapon setups. Think we should toss a permanant Molot on some of the bots. As an extra point - fixed though Fine... I won't make any "Is that a molot in your pocket..." jokes. Spoiled sport. It's not a molot it's a Punisher. If you know what I mean.  |
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Post by SlowReflexes on Jan 9, 2017 10:28:36 GMT -5
Fine... I won't make any "Is that a molot in your pocket..." jokes. Spoiled sport. It's not a molot it's a Punisher. If you know what I mean. No, baby it's a magnum. |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 9, 2017 10:55:22 GMT -5
It's not a molot it's a Punisher. If you know what I mean. No, baby it's a magnum. Magnum on a Punisher. |
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Jan 9, 2017 13:04:59 GMT -5
Magnum on a Punisher. As long as it's no gekko... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 13:43:44 GMT -5
Gekkos have a LONG reach! Well, ya guys took all the other stuff I wanted to say.  |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 9, 2017 13:45:33 GMT -5
Magnum on a Punisher. As long as it's no gekko... Talk about a pinprick... Well, you know what they say about little lasers... they're little. |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 9, 2017 13:52:32 GMT -5
As long as it's no gekko... Talk about a pinprick... Well, you know what they say about little lasers... they're little. Size doesn't matter. |
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Jan 9, 2017 14:06:59 GMT -5
Talk about a pinprick... Well, you know what they say about little lasers... they're little. Size doesn't matter. She lied... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 16:27:55 GMT -5
I've got a Treb myself, just didn't think that was in the design perameters.  |
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Post by Thunder Carnage on Jan 10, 2017 8:54:33 GMT -5
I can't wait for the Leo buff, with all the health buffs Leo is getting, a thunder magnum Leo is gonna become the big brother of the Taran/thunder Boa. Slightly slower, with decent speed, slightly better firepower but AMAZING health.
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Post by The Püsle on Jan 10, 2017 10:06:55 GMT -5
Waiting to see if the money spent on the second Rogatka will be "refunded" by this buff. Leo didn't need any HP buff, it's already a hulking tank as it is...
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, you could say 1.5 mediums = 1 heavy, but this only applies towards PIns/Tulus/Tridents, but this is also wrong as 3 Tulus do more damage than 2 Tridents, they nearly do the damage of 3. The only weapons where you can use this 2 = 1 are the Pinata/Orkan and Pin/Tulu are the only exact replicas of each other, just better
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