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Post by hyderier on Jul 9, 2017 9:53:08 GMT -5
Assume there is a clear tanker, in this case someone with over 4000 wins and a lot of level 12 stuff (including a Fury with level 12 Trebs which was rather nasty in Canyon, and a maxed Ancilot), on Silver league, coming up with 70% win rate currently.
Is there any use reporting these to Pix?
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Post by Golden Sabre on Jul 9, 2017 10:51:06 GMT -5
I'm going to go with no. Pix supposedly has a program in place to separate them from general population so reporting a possible tanker would be useless.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Jul 9, 2017 17:02:38 GMT -5
Opposite opinion here. Multiple posts on FB with guys getting their accounts locked out. When they message Pix they're being told their account was locked due to behavior that runs contrary to Pix's expectation of how the game should be played.
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Post by mijapi300 on Jul 9, 2017 17:09:57 GMT -5
Opposite opinion here. Multiple posts on FB with guys getting their accounts locked out. When they message Pix they're being told their account was locked due to behavior that runs contrary to Pix's expectation of how the game should be played. While I'm not against it, it seems very irresponsible on Pixonic's part. People spend money on this game. And if they get their account locked for something there are no rules against, they would likely be able to get their money back. For the sake of not making the problem bigger with their solution, they need to just adopt a strategy of transparency. Actually tell the players specifically what is against the rules. Put an option in game that you one-time have to agree to the terms. Then implement, and actually enforce consistently, a reporting system. I've always felt the easier solution is to just increase per game rewards as you move up in leagues (mainly silver). The only way to rid the game of tankers is to remove their incentive (easy resources). Then you'd be left with a much much smaller pool of tankers that do it simply to troll.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 9, 2017 18:09:20 GMT -5
Opposite opinion here. Multiple posts on FB with guys getting their accounts locked out. When they message Pix they're being told their account was locked due to behavior that runs contrary to Pix's expectation of how the game should be played. While I'm not against it, it seems very irresponsible on Pixonic's part. People spend money on this game. And if they get their account locked for something there are no rules against, they would likely be able to get their money back. For the sake of not making the problem bigger with their solution, they need to just adopt a strategy of transparency. Actually tell the players specifically what is against the rules. Put an option in game that you one-time have to agree to the terms. Then implement, and actually enforce consistently, a reporting system. I've always felt the easier solution is to just increase per game rewards as you move up in leagues (mainly silver). The only way to rid the game of tankers is to remove their incentive (easy resources). Then you'd be left with a much much smaller pool of tankers that do it simply to troll. That all depends on whether or not pixo actually has in writing somewhere their "expectations".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 19:05:11 GMT -5
Oh boy, here we again. The crowd that makes companies put a warning label on everything or else they argue it's not really against the rules.. ...
"If they didn't want me to drink their gasoline, they should have clearly labelled it as non consumable!"
Tankers know what they do is wrong.
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Post by Russel on Jul 9, 2017 19:08:44 GMT -5
Oh boy, here we again. The crowd that makes companies put a warning label on everything or else they argue it's not really against the rules.. ... "If they didn't want me to drink their gasoline, they should have clearly labelled it as non consumable!" Tankers know what they do is wrong. You ARE referring to this thread, aren't you? war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/11227/war-robots-yesterday-people-play
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 19:11:14 GMT -5
Oh boy, here we again. The crowd that makes companies put a warning label on everything or else they argue it's not really against the rules.. ... "If they didn't want me to drink their gasoline, they should have clearly labelled it as non consumable!" Tankers know what they do is wrong. You ARE referring to this thread, aren't you? war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/11227/war-robots-yesterday-people-playWow, actually no. Pure coincidence. I shoulda known this forum would already have a thread about petrol consumption.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 6:07:47 GMT -5
Pix should not have the leave option available till you are meched out or clearly explain and warn players who are getting bad karma. Since they clearly track bad karma as a precursor to banishment into the LQ they could simply add that to the hud. Kinda like a tachometer on your car, you could see when you are getting close to the red line and back off.
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Post by Russel on Jul 10, 2017 6:39:28 GMT -5
Pix should not have the leave option available till you are meched out or clearly explain and warn players who are getting bad karma. Since they clearly track bad karma as a precursor to banishment into the LQ they could simply add that to the hud. Kinda like a tachometer on your car, you could see when you are getting close to the red line and back off. Why you should back off the red zone? It's exactly where your vtec kicks in! :-D But on the topic - it's ok to leave after mech out. i promise you, I am doing that often (every battle in "kill" or "capture" task), pretty often 4~6 minutes in game.
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Post by Firebeard on Jul 10, 2017 6:46:03 GMT -5
Opposite opinion here. Multiple posts on FB with guys getting their accounts locked out. When they message Pix they're being told their account was locked due to behavior that runs contrary to Pix's expectation of how the game should be played. What? .. For serious? HA! Good for Pixonic! I'm gonna buy a Butch now ..
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Post by Firebeard on Jul 10, 2017 6:56:07 GMT -5
Opposite opinion here. Multiple posts on FB with guys getting their accounts locked out. When they message Pix they're being told their account was locked due to behavior that runs contrary to Pix's expectation of how the game should be played. While I'm not against it, it seems very irresponsible on Pixonic's part. People spend money on this game. And if they get their account locked for something there are no rules against, they would likely be able to get their money back. For the sake of not making the problem bigger with their solution, they need to just adopt a strategy of transparency. Actually tell the players specifically what is against the rules. Put an option in game that you one-time have to agree to the terms. Then implement, and actually enforce consistently, a reporting system. I've always felt the easier solution is to just increase per game rewards as you move up in leagues (mainly silver). The only way to rid the game of tankers is to remove their incentive (easy resources). Then you'd be left with a much much smaller pool of tankers that do it simply to troll. I disagree. The "Tanker's" intent was clear. The Tankers were notified when they contacted Pixonic. They were penalized then given multiple chances to reform behaviour. The "Tanker's" continued to be repeat offenders and disrupt the Players. This is a bold and brave move by Pixonic. I applaud them for this. The Player pool is currently smaller, Yes. But that may not be for long. When Word gets out about Pixonic's stance on Fair Play, there will be many more. Now, we know why Pixonic has widened the MM algorithm .. I'm no longer upset about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 7:03:45 GMT -5
Pix should not have the leave option available till you are meched out or clearly explain and warn players who are getting bad karma. Since they clearly track bad karma as a precursor to banishment into the LQ they could simply add that to the hud. Kinda like a tachometer on your car, you could see when you are getting close to the red line and back off. Why you should back off the red zone? It's exactly where your vtec kicks in! :-D But on the topic - it's ok to leave after mech out. i promise you, I am doing that often (every battle in "kill" or "capture" task), pretty often 4~6 minutes in game. Yes I know you can leave after meching out. It why I said the leave option should not be available till you are meched out.
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Post by llama4president on Jul 10, 2017 7:15:47 GMT -5
Considering there is no written or published Eula or any kind of Rule Set for War Robot, which is by itself a really troublesome thing, Tanking should not be considered to be something against any Rule.
What i would consider instead implicit, and vulnerable to a possible Ban, is Bug Exploiting. Right now the only bans i have seen are about people that exploited a bug some months ago that would let them bypass the league point noob protection, aka they managed to reach under 1000 points, which should be iirc the barrier for new players.
They were exploiting an uninteded bug that slipped off in a past build, and many people were banned for that, but not for Tanking. They were also tankers, but it was irrelevant, as the punished offense was the bug exploit.
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Post by Poopface on Jul 10, 2017 7:27:15 GMT -5
I'll admit that I've considered it on numerous occasions. The lone thing that keeps me from doing it is that it screws over the other players on my team and it's not fair to do to them. It's especially obnoxious since we have the event going on now where you're required to win in order to progress.
I also find it to be pretty infuriating that approaching half of my losses since the event started are due to people fading or tanking. 6 days and many hours of gameplay in and I just got to the final stage of the Aphid step this morning before work.
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Post by MCYL on Jul 10, 2017 8:33:36 GMT -5
Considering there is no written or published Eula or any kind of Rule Set for War Robot, which is by itself a really troublesome thing, Tanking should not be considered to be something against any Rule. What i would consider instead implicit, and vulnerable to a possible Ban, is Bug Exploiting. Right now the only bans i have seen are about people that exploited a bug some months ago that would let them bypass the league point noob protection, aka they managed to reach under 1000 points, which should be iirc the barrier for new players. They were exploiting an uninteded bug that slipped off in a past build, and many people were banned for that, but not for Tanking. They were also tankers, but it was irrelevant, as the punished offense was the bug exploit. Well there's no rule that an online games developer has to let everyone play. They could let 1 or a million, stop 1 or a million. Their discretion.
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Post by llama4president on Jul 10, 2017 8:46:42 GMT -5
Considering there is no written or published Eula or any kind of Rule Set for War Robot, which is by itself a really troublesome thing, Tanking should not be considered to be something against any Rule. What i would consider instead implicit, and vulnerable to a possible Ban, is Bug Exploiting. Right now the only bans i have seen are about people that exploited a bug some months ago that would let them bypass the league point noob protection, aka they managed to reach under 1000 points, which should be iirc the barrier for new players. They were exploiting an uninteded bug that slipped off in a past build, and many people were banned for that, but not for Tanking. They were also tankers, but it was irrelevant, as the punished offense was the bug exploit. Well there's no rule that an online games developer has to let everyone play. They could let 1 or a million, stop 1 or a million. Their discretion. There's no rule for them but marketing sense. If a company starts behaving in an unpredictable or erratic or unprofessional way, it will start to piss off those who keep her alive. Putting some rules/Eula should be in their best interest so they don't appear unprofessional, and give some guidelines to their customers to avoid unpleasant situations. We are primarily customers, then players.
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Post by MCYL on Jul 10, 2017 8:48:45 GMT -5
Well there's no rule that an online games developer has to let everyone play. They could let 1 or a million, stop 1 or a million. Their discretion. There's no rule for them but marketing sense. If a company starts behaving in an unpredictable or erratic or unprofessional way, it will start to piss off those who keep her alive. Putting some rules/Eula should be in their best interest so they don't appear unprofessional, and give some guidelines to their customers to avoid unpleasant situations. We are primarily customers, then players. Yeah, true. I do wonder why they never just coded leaving out of it. I figured they need to keep the top paying 1% happy. If tankers are affect the 1% it's affecting revenue. Simple case of weeding out pests.
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Post by Russel on Jul 10, 2017 9:25:42 GMT -5
Well there's no rule that an online games developer has to let everyone play. They could let 1 or a million, stop 1 or a million. Their discretion. There's no rule for them but marketing sense. If a company starts behaving in an unpredictable or erratic or unprofessional way, it will start to piss off those who keep her alive. Putting some rules/Eula should be in their best interest so they don't appear unprofessional, and give some guidelines to their customers to avoid unpleasant situations. We are primarily customers, then players. Yep, it's been a long time debate if "scarcity" makes something more desirable. I.e. if the game would allow anybody do anything - it _MIGHT_ get boring for everybody quite fast; But if you are not allowed to do this and that - you know that general public is being filtered somehow, so you are going to end up in a pretty nice place. It's almost like cafe\restaurant; while it should allow everyone to enter, it is nice when you got some rules inside the cafe, so you know what to expect. Say, aggressive football fans are fun in small pubs (been there, done that), but I wouldn't like to see them (or younger version of me, even) in a family restaurant. And mind you, it is not written in the law (well, for the most part) that you can't behave like a 「cotton headed ninny muggins」 in a family restaurant.
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Post by mijapi300 on Jul 10, 2017 9:35:43 GMT -5
While I'm not against it, it seems very irresponsible on Pixonic's part. People spend money on this game. And if they get their account locked for something there are no rules against, they would likely be able to get their money back. For the sake of not making the problem bigger with their solution, they need to just adopt a strategy of transparency. Actually tell the players specifically what is against the rules. Put an option in game that you one-time have to agree to the terms. Then implement, and actually enforce consistently, a reporting system. I've always felt the easier solution is to just increase per game rewards as you move up in leagues (mainly silver). The only way to rid the game of tankers is to remove their incentive (easy resources). Then you'd be left with a much much smaller pool of tankers that do it simply to troll. I disagree. The "Tanker's" intent was clear. The Tankers were notified when they contacted Pixonic. They were penalized then given multiple chances to reform behaviour. The "Tanker's" continued to be repeat offenders and disrupt the Players. This is a bold and brave move by Pixonic. I applaud them for this. The Player pool is currently smaller, Yes. But that may not be for long. When Word gets out about Pixonic's stance on Fair Play, there will be many more. Now, we know why Pixonic has widened the MM algorithm .. I'm no longer upset about it. There are a lot of stretches at facts in that comment.. To think that every single tanker in the entire game has e-mailed Pixonic and gotten a written warning is naive. So is to assume that every single person that has been banned has followed the path you described. Also, while it makes you happy, assuming that tanker bans is the reason the player pool is small is also naive. There are many factors that determine the size of the player pool, not just banning tankers. We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I'm all for dealing with tankers and issues in game, I would just prefer a more legitimate way to do so.
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Post by llama4president on Jul 10, 2017 9:40:04 GMT -5
Russel MCYLthe problem is that we are debating it on the forum. We aren't even 1% of playerbase. The great majority of players don't follow the War Robots forums, wiki or social media. The great majority of people ending up on Leavers queue have no idea they are even on a different place than normal queue. Rules and communication both help the company and the players. They mostly help the newbies to not fall into errors thay they did with no malice. Also more clarity, like signaling players they are on a different queue would sensibilize them about the issue. Let's be practical, how many posts have we counted these months with people at bronze/silver sincerely raging that they were being matched against high leagues, because they had no idea they were in LQ? Answer: Too Many, for a feature that had to be temporary and ended up being permanent. Pixonic needs to put just warnings inside the game.
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Post by Russel on Jul 10, 2017 10:11:06 GMT -5
Russel MCYL the problem is that we are debating it on the forum. We aren't even 1% of playerbase. The great majority of players don't follow the War Robots forums, wiki or social media. The great majority of people ending up on Leavers queue have no idea they are even on a different place than normal queue. Rules and communication both help the company and the players. They mostly help the newbies to not fall into errors thay they did with no malice. Also more clarity, like signaling players they are on a different queue would sensibilize them about the issue. Let's be practical, how many posts have we counted these months with people at bronze/silver sincerely raging that they were being matched against high leagues, because they had no idea they were in LQ? Answer: Too Many, for a feature that had to be temporary and ended up being permanent. Pixonic needs to put just warnings inside the game. I think you were addressing both of our answers, so I'll try to make it brief and to the point: 1) Pixonic is doing very very very very very very very ?poo-poo?ty job of communicating with players. I could not stress how much I think it sucks. Almost to the same extent the game itself is great, the customer support is THAT bad. It's not even "Apple maps bad", it's almost non-exsisting. As an recent example - when I was contacting support last week - I got response "Sorry, not my department responsibility. Goodbye". How awesome that is for an answer to a customer, who is actively participating in a community (YouTube, Forum, Wiki) and even paid some money last even to spin some chests? Only Dredd's involvement resolved that issue; thank you Dredd once more for that! 2) Leaver's queue is good, to my opinion. People are trying to use some shortcuts and cheats to play the game the way they want. It always would be a thing. Leaver's queue is a good place and good measure. 3) Please, when you are reading my p.2 keep in mind p.1 Meaning that while I like measures Pix are taking to keep the game fun and competitive, they are ?firetruck?ing silent about it for 99% of players. And that is a bad thing. So, to sum it up: Leaver's queue, banning cheaters - great thing. Customers relations - dog?poo-poo?. Upd: Oh crap. Sorry, I couldn't contain myself and it was not "short".
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Post by Firebeard on Jul 10, 2017 11:19:16 GMT -5
I disagree. The "Tanker's" intent was clear. The Tankers were notified when they contacted Pixonic. They were penalized then given multiple chances to reform behaviour. The "Tanker's" continued to be repeat offenders and disrupt the Players. This is a bold and brave move by Pixonic. I applaud them for this. The Player pool is currently smaller, Yes. But that may not be for long. When Word gets out about Pixonic's stance on Fair Play, there will be many more. Now, we know why Pixonic has widened the MM algorithm .. I'm no longer upset about it. There are a lot of stretches at facts in that comment.. To think that every single tanker in the entire game has e-mailed Pixonic and gotten a written warning is naive. So is to assume that every single person that has been banned has followed the path you described. Also, while it makes you happy, assuming that tanker bans is the reason the player pool is small is also naive. There are many factors that determine the size of the player pool, not just banning tankers. We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I'm all for dealing with tankers and issues in game, I would just prefer a more legitimate way to do so. I never stated that the Banning was entirely due to "Tanking." I implied that the Banning of the "Tankers" is entirely warranted and I applaud Pixonic for doing so. I am not being naive, you are reading out of context and being condescending. Furthermore, there is a ToS. Players are well aware of the rules of conduct. The game will be much better off without such behaviour.
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Post by Vectivus on Jul 10, 2017 11:21:53 GMT -5
Really glad to know that tankers and faders are being smacked down with appropriate viciousness. I will be very, very sure to report any tanker I see, now.
Man, this gave me some warm fuzzies. Go Pix!!!
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Post by mijapi300 on Jul 10, 2017 11:38:05 GMT -5
There are a lot of stretches at facts in that comment.. To think that every single tanker in the entire game has e-mailed Pixonic and gotten a written warning is naive. So is to assume that every single person that has been banned has followed the path you described. Also, while it makes you happy, assuming that tanker bans is the reason the player pool is small is also naive. There are many factors that determine the size of the player pool, not just banning tankers. We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I'm all for dealing with tankers and issues in game, I would just prefer a more legitimate way to do so. I never stated that the Banning was entirely due to "Tanking." I implied that the Banning of the "Tankers" is entirely warranted and I applaud Pixonic for doing so. I am not being naive, you are reading out of context and being condescending. Furthermore, there is a ToS. Players are well aware of the rules of conduct. The game will be much better off without such behaviour. Nobody is saying the game isn't better off without tankers. And banning of anything for any reason is only warranted if there are written rules that are agreed upon when you start playing the game. I've never seen a ToS or any sort of written rules in-game, so I'm not sure what you're referring to. If you're referring to some outside source that someone would have to voluntarily search for to even know it exists, that isn't sufficient to warrant action. It's the same concept of leavers queue, or any type of punishment. If you're going to punish people in game, they need to know why. Sure, we know why. But this forum has an average viewership of about 4K a day according to the stats on the home page. Based on people's guesses and download numbers, that's not even close to 1% of the population of the game. Banning people in game for "rules" that less than 1% of the game population are aware of is not justified, no matter how hard you try to. I want tankers to be dealt with. Whether it be bans, or leavers queue or removal of rewards. But there need to be rules put in place to begin with, so there is something to consistently enforce.
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Post by Firebeard on Jul 10, 2017 12:00:02 GMT -5
I never stated that the Banning was entirely due to "Tanking." I implied that the Banning of the "Tankers" is entirely warranted and I applaud Pixonic for doing so. I am not being naive, you are reading out of context and being condescending. Furthermore, there is a ToS. Players are well aware of the rules of conduct. The game will be much better off without such behaviour. Nobody is saying the game isn't better off without tankers. And banning of anything for any reason is only warranted if there are written rules that are agreed upon when you start playing the game. I've never seen a ToS or any sort of written rules in-game, so I'm not sure what you're referring to. If you're referring to some outside source that someone would have to voluntarily search for to even know it exists, that isn't sufficient to warrant action. It's the same concept of leavers queue, or any type of punishment. If you're going to punish people in game, they need to know why. Sure, we know why. But this forum has an average viewership of about 4K a day according to the stats on the home page. Based on people's guesses and download numbers, that's not even close to 1% of the population of the game. Banning people in game for "rules" that less than 1% of the game population are aware of is not justified, no matter how hard you try to. I want tankers to be dealt with. Whether it be bans, or leavers queue or removal of rewards. But there need to be rules put in place to begin with, so there is something to consistently enforce. Are you implying that the "Tankers" were unaware of the disruption that they were causing? We know to a reasonable degree of certainty that the "Tankers" had malicious intent. This lead to the creation of LQ for which these Players were placed as punishment. They continued to be disruptive and so, were removed from play. This is a game. Game's have Rules. You give your consent through acquiesce, to abide by the Rules, interest of Fair Play and to keep within the Spirit of the Game. The Rules and/or interest of Fair Play do not need to written or spoken. They only need to be implied. It is common knowledge.
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Post by mijapi300 on Jul 10, 2017 12:06:52 GMT -5
Nobody is saying the game isn't better off without tankers. And banning of anything for any reason is only warranted if there are written rules that are agreed upon when you start playing the game. I've never seen a ToS or any sort of written rules in-game, so I'm not sure what you're referring to. If you're referring to some outside source that someone would have to voluntarily search for to even know it exists, that isn't sufficient to warrant action. It's the same concept of leavers queue, or any type of punishment. If you're going to punish people in game, they need to know why. Sure, we know why. But this forum has an average viewership of about 4K a day according to the stats on the home page. Based on people's guesses and download numbers, that's not even close to 1% of the population of the game. Banning people in game for "rules" that less than 1% of the game population are aware of is not justified, no matter how hard you try to. I want tankers to be dealt with. Whether it be bans, or leavers queue or removal of rewards. But there need to be rules put in place to begin with, so there is something to consistently enforce. Are you implying that the "Tankers" were unaware of the disruption that they were causing? We know to a reasonable degree of certainty that the "Tankers" had malicious intent. This lead to the creation of LQ for which these Players were placed as punishment. They continued to be disruptive and so, were removed from play. This is a game. Game's have Rules. You give your consent through acquiesce, to abide by the Rules, interest of Fair Play and to keep within the Spirit of the Game. The Rules and/or interest of Fair Play do not need to written or spoken. They only need to be implied. It is common knowledge. I don't think tankers care if they are disrupting game play. As the game currently stands, they are breaking no rules. That is what needs to change. You cannot expect the entire human population to conform to morally acceptable standards just out of the goodness of their hearts. Some people suck. There's no debating that. I've never heard of a game that has no rules and arbitrarily bans people. Every game I've ever played that has a reporting system and actually enforced bans had some so of written ToS that needed to be agreed to in order to play. I'm not even sure why you're arguing that. You'd simply prefer for people to be blindsighted and for there to be no rules to the game? I get that you hate tankers, but if you desire for there to be no rules and for people to be punished without any warning or knowledge of why, are you really that much holier than they? The game should be played fairly, yes. The game should also be run fairly. There is no reason, or excuse, to expect one without the other.
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Post by Firebeard on Jul 10, 2017 12:17:42 GMT -5
Are you implying that the "Tankers" were unaware of the disruption that they were causing? We know to a reasonable degree of certainty that the "Tankers" had malicious intent. This lead to the creation of LQ for which these Players were placed as punishment. They continued to be disruptive and so, were removed from play. This is a game. Game's have Rules. You give your consent through acquiesce, to abide by the Rules, interest of Fair Play and to keep within the Spirit of the Game. The Rules and/or interest of Fair Play do not need to written or spoken. They only need to be implied. It is common knowledge. I don't think tankers care if they are disrupting game play. As the game currently stands, they are breaking no rules. That is what needs to change. You cannot expect the entire human population to conform to morally acceptable standards just out of the goodness of their hearts. Some people suck. There's no debating that. I've never heard of a game that has no rules and arbitrarily bans people. Every game I've ever played that has a reporting system and actually enforced bans had some so of written ToS that needed to be agreed to in order to play. I'm not even sure why you're arguing that. You'd simply prefer for people to be blindsighted and for there to be no rules to the game? I get that you hate tankers, but if you desire for there to be no rules and for people to be punished without any warning or knowledge of why, are you really that much holier than they? The game should be played fairly, yes. The game should also be run fairly. There is no reason, or excuse, to expect one without the other. Just because the keys are in the Ferrari and the motor's running does not mean you can drive away with it. Pixonic has stated and implied, on numerous occasions, that they are taking measures to address the issue of "Tanking." They do not condone the behaviour. The Player base does not accept it, either. I will find the ToS, again ..
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Post by mijapi300 on Jul 10, 2017 12:26:49 GMT -5
I don't think tankers care if they are disrupting game play. As the game currently stands, they are breaking no rules. That is what needs to change. You cannot expect the entire human population to conform to morally acceptable standards just out of the goodness of their hearts. Some people suck. There's no debating that. I've never heard of a game that has no rules and arbitrarily bans people. Every game I've ever played that has a reporting system and actually enforced bans had some so of written ToS that needed to be agreed to in order to play. I'm not even sure why you're arguing that. You'd simply prefer for people to be blindsighted and for there to be no rules to the game? I get that you hate tankers, but if you desire for there to be no rules and for people to be punished without any warning or knowledge of why, are you really that much holier than they? The game should be played fairly, yes. The game should also be run fairly. There is no reason, or excuse, to expect one without the other. Just because the keys are in the Ferrari and the motor's running does not mean you can drive away with it. Pixonic has stated and implied, on numerous occasions, that they are taking measures to address the issue of "Tanking." They do not condone the behaviour. The Player base does not accept it, either. I will find the ToS, again .. They have never stated any of this in game. And I would venture to guess that the majority of the players in the game do not look at Reddit/forums/Facebook pages to find all of this obscure information Pixonic releases. They're inconsistent in what little communication they have with the players. I spend a lot of time outside of the game, and I don't even know where all the stuff they release gets put up. As far as your real life scenario. Say America bans cigarettes tomorrow, and the penalty is death. People have always frowned upon smokers and smoking, but it's never been illegal. Oh and by the way, the government only tells people that happen to be part of city councils, and nobody else in the country knows about the new law. The next day, the Government begins executing people that smoke, and doesn't tell them why even then. They're just dead. Only way to find out is if a family or friend contacts the government asking why. And even then, the only people that know are those family and friends, and any direct person they happen to tell. In this example, we are one of the city councils. We know about it. But the players in the game represent everyone else. Doing something that's been frowned upon forever, but never actually against any rules. And again, if there is a ToS that is not available within the app, it doesn't apply. You can expect every single player to Google War Robots ToS to find some rules written on some outside medium.
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Post by pirateb0t on Jul 10, 2017 12:31:26 GMT -5
Where have you guys been seeing stories of Pixonic banning players for disruptive in game behavior? I've looked online and haven't seen any verifiable cases of this being true..even on reddit. There's entire clans out there who derive their vast wealth and champ league status from gaming Pixonic's idiotic matchmaking league system.
I still see leavers, tankers, and faders everywhere in game so I doubt Pixonic is having any real effect on this even if it turns out to be true they are doing something.
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