loneshiva
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Post by loneshiva on Dec 24, 2016 1:52:04 GMT -5
Hi all. I was browsing through youtube to find information regard the xmas chest and came across a video by The Center Beacon. It mention of a method to increase your chance of loot from the chest. I'll farmed close to 80-100 chest myself before i notice this tip. Simply put, you should only open ONE chest for every time you log in the game. I'll tried it myself and am simply amaze at the reason this simple tip has helped me. I'll recently posted a record of item i gotten from my chest. It had all sort of item ranging from 5k silver - 100k silver, 5 AU - 9 AU, Molot T and punisher T. After using that tip of opening one chest per login. My recent reward jumped in term of quality. I no longer get any AU thats less than 15. i'll hit 100 AU for at least 3 time. So after using the tip for 30+ try at the very least. I'll confirm it myself that it really work. At least for me. Here a video showing the last 10 opening of the chest.Another video showing my recent 50 try.TLDR : Open one chest per login. To make it fast, Open one chest, see the result then close the game and open it back for another chest. Rinse and repeat. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 24, 2016 1:53:47 GMT -5
To make it faster, click open chest and close app straight away. You will still receive the same reward.
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loneshiva
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Posts: 42
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Pilot name: [SAF] Ioneshiva
Platform: Android
Clan: SAF
League: Silver
Favorite robot: Boa (gonna love to give it to them in the FACE)
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Post by loneshiva on Dec 24, 2016 2:27:07 GMT -5
To make it faster, click open chest and close app straight away. You will still receive the same reward. But the excitement of watching where it land.... i would like to see it before i close the app  . But other might not. your comment will save even more time for them. Cheers! |
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Post by j3st3r on Dec 24, 2016 2:40:35 GMT -5
From a coding point of view... that doesnt make sense at all... theyd have to of coded in two seperate randomised algorithms in order for that to ring true... one for the first roll on login with a different set of values on the payouts and then a second randomised table values to get the other spins...
Just doesnt make sense. Looks more like confirmation bias than any lehit trick.
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Dec 24, 2016 3:05:18 GMT -5
I saw the same thing on a video by Adriannnnn, tried it for the last 7 draw and got almost all guns or bots, 200k Ag, and 20 Au. Try it... As for why it's happening, well I'm cynical. Could be like any biased slot machine AKA the one-armed bandits, or better yet like in crooked craps hustling, the first throw is always an easy score. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 24, 2016 3:39:43 GMT -5
Btw anyone wondering, you can still win gold items if you use this glitch.
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Post by Deadalready on Dec 24, 2016 3:47:13 GMT -5
I honestly don't believe it could be true but I'll try and report back...
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 24, 2016 8:12:02 GMT -5
I honestly don't believe it could be true but I'll try and report back... ive just done 1500 chests using the glitch, it's true  |
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Dec 24, 2016 8:15:09 GMT -5
I honestly don't believe it could be true but I'll try and report back... ive just done 1500 chests using the glitch, it's true *double take* FIFTEEN HUNDRED CHESTS DO YOU HAVE A LIFE?! |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 24, 2016 8:16:56 GMT -5
ive just done 1500 chests using the glitch, it's true *double take* FIFTEEN HUNDRED CHESTS DO YOU HAVE A LIFE?! i didn't farm for the chests lol, I bought snowflakes |
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Dec 24, 2016 8:21:45 GMT -5
*double take* FIFTEEN HUNDRED CHESTS DO YOU HAVE A LIFE?! i didn't farm for the chests lol, I bought snowflakes *double take* YOU BOUGHT SNOWFLAKES DO YOU HAVE A LIFE?! |
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Post by Deadalready on Dec 24, 2016 9:10:48 GMT -5
*double take* FIFTEEN HUNDRED CHESTS DO YOU HAVE A LIFE?! i didn't farm for the chests lol, I bought snowflakes Weeeeeelllllll.... did you get anything good? |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Dec 24, 2016 9:10:52 GMT -5
*double take* FIFTEEN HUNDRED CHESTS DO YOU HAVE A LIFE?! i didn't farm for the chests lol, I bought snowflakes You sir, have FAR more patience than I ? |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 24, 2016 9:21:31 GMT -5
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Post by boomsplat on Dec 24, 2016 14:33:02 GMT -5
I tried it and won 500k Ag, 15 Au, 20Au, and a Patton in 4 opening....these last 4 were much better than my previous 16.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 24, 2016 14:39:22 GMT -5
I tried it and won 500k Ag, 15 Au, 20Au, and a Patton in 4 opening....these last 4 were much better than my previous 16. from experience, you cannot win less than 50k ag or 15 au in a single spin with this method. |
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Post by ShutUpAndSmokeMyWeed on Dec 24, 2016 14:50:38 GMT -5
It makes perfect sense from a psychological standpoint. An early win is likely to have a big impact on the gambler and encourage him/her to keep playing, so I'm not at all surprised that Pixonic chose to go this route.
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j3st3r
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Post by j3st3r on Dec 24, 2016 17:13:06 GMT -5
Ive also found a new trick to add to it...
Youll get gold weaps every time if you are facing exactly towards moscow when you spin. You also have to scream out... "for mmother russia!" When you press it with your thumb on your left hand.
This is 100% accurate in the 6 tests i have done.
Surely you kmow im joking by now just as how this "glitch" youre suggesting exists is just annecdotal confirmation bias.
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Post by Prowler on Dec 24, 2016 18:24:15 GMT -5
Does not work on android. 15 chest no bots or weapons only gold (in between two bots) and tons of silver
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Post by petevb on Dec 24, 2016 18:43:40 GMT -5
From a coding point of view... that doesnt make sense at all... theyd have to of coded in two seperate randomised algorithms in order for that to ring true... one for the first roll on login with a different set of values on the payouts and then a second randomised table values to get the other spins... Just doesnt make sense. Looks more like confirmation bias than any lehit trick. Seems to work for me. I never win the smallest prizes (1, 2 or 3 gold) when I open individually, only when I open a group. Some guys have kept statistics that back the theory up. And it makes perfect sense from the creator's point of view... I indirectly know guys who coded in-flight video poker for an international airline. They said the game was rigged- payouts were high during the first hour of the flight, then dropped. If you play a few hands and win (or see someone else win) you're more likely to keep going and raise the stakes, right? Same principle here- get a taste, like it, then (ideally) get serious and go buy some snowflakes. It's ethically very questionable, but who's going to notice? |
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Post by ΜΣƬΔƬΓΘ∏ on Dec 24, 2016 18:51:30 GMT -5
i can say that i just opened 50 boxes doing this log out then in method
my results are as follows
500,000 silver x1
ecc thunder x1
Kang Dea x1
GI patton x1
golem x2
vityaz x1
100 gold x2
boa x1
tulumbas x3
pinata x4
noricum x2
crv pin x4
100,000 silver x2
50,000 silver x11
20 gold x6
15 gold x7
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Post by Deadalready on Dec 24, 2016 18:56:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I'll confirm my rewards seem to be better.
Haven't gotten 1,2,3 gold rewards or 5k silver.
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Post by j3st3r on Dec 24, 2016 20:26:33 GMT -5
Thats exactly what confirmation bias is.... because youre looking for an outcome going in then you will naturally look for results that back you up.
Its unavoidable psychology thats why the scientific method exists. Doing 10 spins and claiming the results "seem to be better" is not a way to appraise a method. Neither is a conversation you had with "some guy who coded inflight poker"
This is a russian coding house... they do everything on the very very cheap. They dont engage in psychological research into the minds of gambler's in video games. Youre looking for a connection that doesnt exist.
Look at it another way. Is it more likely that they went to the extreme trouble of coding in two seperate tables of varying odds in the outcomes in order to trap problem gamblers into spending... or is it kore likely that in an attempt to get something for nothing players have looked for and invented a glitch to help them feel they are getting maximum reward....
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 24, 2016 20:30:14 GMT -5
Thats exactly what confirmation bias is.... because youre looking for an outcome going in then you will naturally look for results that back you up. Its unavoidable psychology thats why the scientific method exists. Doing 10 spins and claiming the results "seem to be better" is not a way to appraise a method. Neither is a conversation you had with "some guy who coded inflight poker" This is a russian coding house... they do everything on the very very cheap. They dont engage in psychological research into the minds of gambler's in video games. Youre looking for a connection that doesnt exist. Look at it another way. Is it more likely that they went to the extreme trouble of coding in two seperate tables of varying odds in the outcomes in order to trap problem gamblers into spending... or is it kore likely that in an attempt to get something for nothing players have looked for and invented a glitch to help them feel they are getting maximum reward.... so are you saying the rewards aren't better orrr...? |
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Dec 24, 2016 20:31:58 GMT -5
j3st3r You are also succumbing to a disbelief bias and refusing to acknowledge the evidence presented. I expected to get 1 Au, 2 Au, or 3 Au prizes in the last 20 draws, but have not since I started relaunching the game before each draw. The evidence I encountered refuted my premise. Now what?
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 24, 2016 20:35:27 GMT -5
j3st3r You are also succumbing to a disbelief bias and refusing to acknowledge the evidence presented. I expected to get 1 Au, 2 Au, or 3 Au prizes in the last 20 draws, but have not since I started relaunching the game before each draw. The evidence I encountered refuted my premise. Now what? lol I did 1500 draws and not once did I get less than 15au or 50k ag, as well as never recieving a molot, punisher or spiral. Evidence enough? XD |
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Asturias
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Post by Asturias on Dec 24, 2016 20:37:21 GMT -5
I first thought confirmation bias also, but after experimentation I think there's a genuine phenomenon going on here. I haven't pulled any single-digit Au or anything below 50K Ag since doing this; whereas they would be a good 20% of the rolls for mass openings.
I am normally extremely skeptical of such claims (oh, roll at this timing to get this special card/hero etc), they're normally just silly superstition and psychological phenomena. So these results are honestly surprising me.
Healthy skepticism includes being willing to question your own beliefs and suppositions when new good evidence is available.
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Post by Deadalready on Dec 24, 2016 20:46:19 GMT -5
I said "seems like" because I don't believe I've done enough rolls to confirm (too lazy to record as well). By doing this trick every single roll has resulted in a weapon, a bot, 15+ AU or 100k silver.
My test sample is in the region of 30 rolls, that's enough to normally receive 1 AU or 5k silver at least once normally.
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Dec 24, 2016 20:46:39 GMT -5
Jumpin' catfish.... RNG manipulation has been around since DOS games. Here, learn something -> kb.speeddemosarchive.com/Random_Number_GeneratorsWhat we have here is a simple case of 2 prize groups. When you first launch the game, you get to draw from a better prize group, that's all and it's not that hard to program. PLEASE don't bother pointing out the 'prize wheel' animation, it's rigged to make you think you almost won something better, further evidence of Pixonic's manipulative practices. [Edit] I just thought of one other scenario based on RNG seed exploitation. The RNG system they are using may start with the same 'seed' value when the program is launched, and that seed has an exploitable flaw that the first Random Number pulled has a 'winning' value. [/] |
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Post by j3st3r on Dec 24, 2016 20:51:19 GMT -5
j3st3r You are also succumbing to a disbelief bias and refusing to acknowledge the evidence presented. I expected to get 1 Au, 2 Au, or 3 Au prizes in the last 20 draws, but have not since I started relaunching the game before each draw. The evidence I encountered refuted my premise. Now what? Let me start of by saying that confirmation bias is a legitimate term whereas youve just made up disbelief bias. Go google it and educate yourself. The "evidence" you seem to think i am ignoring is because it is not evidence at all. Its heresay anecdotal bogus nothing. your 20 spins are about as useless as 「huge tracts of land」 on a bull. By your very same logic i have got 2 furies and 4 zeus. Multiple tarans and mags from using multi open spi s therefore everyone should use it. Its not real data im just sorry to say. Thats why i ignore it. |
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