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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 18:00:36 GMT -5
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Post by boomsplat on Mar 30, 2017 18:03:02 GMT -5
I'd rather have ethical tanking vs alternative for my game....but I agree that the real issue is the clubbing of really low level players. While I ran 4/12 geps in the old MM, the type of clubbing going on now is really out of control. One of the changes to the new system was supposed to allow new players some time/space to progress - doesn't appear like any of that is happening because of the wholesale slaughter using 12/12 equipment against noobs.
So while ethical tanking on the way down may not affect my game play as much other than an annoyance, it does 2 terrible things:
1. It is unethical and wholesale destruction of really low level players, far worse than what happened with the old MM
2. These tankers will get a competitive advantage by harvesting gold and silver at a rate that I can't match by playing in my Expert league. I can't stomach doing what they are doing by being professional losers on the way down and unethical and inconsiderate winners on the way back up so it is what it is.
Net, trying to justify things is just what it is - trying to justify.....and not succeeding in my POV.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 30, 2017 18:10:12 GMT -5
I am a self confessed light tanker. I tank whenever I start coming up regularly against hangars superior to mine but only to stay within a certain League. I have been in silver for some time now and have only recently moved up to Gold. Tanking down to recruit with a Lv 11-12 hangar is just bad. I'm a partial alcoholic as I'm sober sometimes! Just kidding - not condemning you but poking fun at the adjective war that is starting so people can point out how their approach is different. light tanking, systemic tanking, ethical tanking, clubbing.....these are all aspects of the game now. While it makes the experience worse for me, I'm expressing my displeasure by playing less or not at all. No matter what is said or done on this forum or FB, it will not change players' behaviors one whit. The only ones that can change the behaviors are Pixo....thru either rewards, punishments, or coding. I've given up until Pixo does release Tanker Hell because I'm pissed at losing because of tankers/ditchers. I like leagues because it gives me something to measure my performance against but not when arbitrary factors like tankers/ditchers cause me to drop in league standings. So just one player voting by playing Candy Crush instead of War Robots. So says the self confessed "light" gep clubber. As if Gep clubbing was any better than tanking. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 18:11:24 GMT -5
I'm a partial alcoholic as I'm sober sometimes! Just kidding - not condemning you but poking fun at the adjective war that is starting so people can point out how their approach is different. light tanking, systemic tanking, ethical tanking, clubbing.....these are all aspects of the game now. While it makes the experience worse for me, I'm expressing my displeasure by playing less or not at all. No matter what is said or done on this forum or FB, it will not change players' behaviors one whit. The only ones that can change the behaviors are Pixo....thru either rewards, punishments, or coding. I've given up until Pixo does release Tanker Hell because I'm pissed at losing because of tankers/ditchers. I like leagues because it gives me something to measure my performance against but not when arbitrary factors like tankers/ditchers cause me to drop in league standings. So just one player voting by playing Candy Crush instead of War Robots. So says the self confessed "light" gep clubber. As if Gep clubbing was any better than tanking. It was better actually. They provided a difficult and fun challenge to play against. Tankers just sit there and leave. |
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 30, 2017 18:19:13 GMT -5
So says the self confessed "light" gep clubber. As if Gep clubbing was any better than tanking. It was better actually. They provided a difficult and fun challenge to play against. Tankers just sit there and leave. I remember those days. Pitting my lowly Lv 3 Destrier with punishers against Lv 3 Geps with Lv 12 mags. Yeah it was oodles of fun. My tanking is just bringing out the B squad. |
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Post by Paps on Mar 30, 2017 18:24:32 GMT -5
I'd take mag-gep clubbers over the tankers any day of the week. Never had a huge issue with gep clubbers. Tankers make the game unplayable at all levels. Edit: Forgot to say... Good read again. Thanks! Dredd77 Appreciate you showcasing the difference of opinion. Echo chambers are typically not a good thing. |
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Post by DIeGo100% on Mar 30, 2017 18:29:59 GMT -5
</div>That is a great job guitar guy, i really hate the hypocrite people, specially Darkangel with his history of "investigation" that we know is tanking, keep working on your lies Darkangel! |
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Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 30, 2017 18:30:55 GMT -5
Firstly, I never said that level eight weapons could not achieve 1 million damage. I stated that I knew players with maxed hangers that had a difficult time achieving the damage stats that you're currently holding. If I am wrong about all of this I apologize, I think the best way for you to clear this would be post a screenshot of that Max damage game you got with your squad. (i'm sure you have a picture of it, I mean, who doesn't take screenshot whenever they break their new high damage?) If I am wrong, then I'm sure bringing this screenshot here for us to see Will just show us how effective your "research" was. And that you gracefully came back up with 50 amazing wins with your squad back up to Diamond league where you currently sit at. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 18:39:41 GMT -5
</div></div>I didn't get my max damage with a squad. My screenshot is there in Flex's discord.  |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 30, 2017 19:25:54 GMT -5
I'm a partial alcoholic as I'm sober sometimes! Just kidding - not condemning you but poking fun at the adjective war that is starting so people can point out how their approach is different. light tanking, systemic tanking, ethical tanking, clubbing.....these are all aspects of the game now. While it makes the experience worse for me, I'm expressing my displeasure by playing less or not at all. No matter what is said or done on this forum or FB, it will not change players' behaviors one whit. The only ones that can change the behaviors are Pixo....thru either rewards, punishments, or coding. I've given up until Pixo does release Tanker Hell because I'm pissed at losing because of tankers/ditchers. I like leagues because it gives me something to measure my performance against but not when arbitrary factors like tankers/ditchers cause me to drop in league standings. So just one player voting by playing Candy Crush instead of War Robots. So says the self confessed "light" gep clubber. As if Gep clubbing was any better than tanking. Boom is capable of speaking for himself but I'd like to say a little to that... He stopped clubbing, and changed his tune on the whole thing. And yeah, I get what he's saying. And I think you took him wrong... Firstly, if you are an old War Robots vet and have been playing a while, please forgive me for telling you stuff you already know... The first incarnation of true seal clubbing was deffo the Geps, and as a player who came up through the tiers without a clan for most of the time I was in Bronze and Silver, Geps were bad. There was a time when every 3rd game was a Gep Squad of 3 or more with weapons that we couldn't last against, being level 8 in bronze and 10-12 in Silver when our weapons were half that, at the least, sometimes 1/3, with bots that were nowhere near the speed of the Geps. And their HP at the time (pre-nerf) was almost the same as the comparable Medium bots. It was as bad to that time as tanking is to this time. Now, I am not saying they were equal in actual crappiness... but the situation was equal in the effect it was having to the lower tiers. There were plenty of people that stated they were leaving b/c of the TriMaggies, at the time. And the controversy over PoH was going strong. Everyone knew it was pointless to compete with people who jimmied the game to their advantage, so the majority of the players that won and benefited from the rewards of PoH were clubbers, towards the end. That didn't sit well with A LOT of folks and was a huge driving force for Pix to change it. |
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Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 30, 2017 19:28:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 19:36:51 GMT -5
How about the other guys? You put a picture of Oscam twice.
I remember how that match went. It was a placement game for Diamond 3.
6v6 for once. Deployed Zeus Carnage first and took out 2 before we were 1-4 on beacons. Deployed Plasma Galahad and must have taken out 3-4 Leos before a Russian Griffin killed me. Dropped a Magnum Orkan Griffin. Killed 1 and 1/2 Griffins. By then it was a 4v5. Dropped a Plasma Gareth and must have captured 2-3 beacons and taken out a Natasha or something. Last bot, 3v5. Dropped an Orkan Pinata Galahad. I was pretty sure there was a Rhino because I spent a good minute trying to kill it. 1v3 now. Killed a Patton and there was 2 Leos left. At the end, it was all hit-and-run and beacon caps.
If you want to know how I remember games, I have pretty good memory. I can still tell you how the battle when I fought you and your clan 3-4 months ago.
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Post by NokiaSåmsung on Mar 30, 2017 19:42:49 GMT -5
「whiskey tango foxtrot」...I'm late for the June rush. Sigh.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 19:49:46 GMT -5
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Post by DIeGo100% on Mar 30, 2017 19:56:11 GMT -5
hahahahaha and they smashed you on your "investigation"? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 19:59:46 GMT -5
hahahahaha and they smashed you on your "investigation"? Nope, I saw them yesterday and one today. I was in Diamond 3 yesterday and today. And also 2 while in Gold 2. My Plasma Galahad took care of them. |
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Post by DIeGo100% on Mar 30, 2017 20:00:01 GMT -5
How about the other guys? You put a picture of Oscam twice. I remember how that match went. It was a placement game for Diamond 3. 6v6 for once. Deployed Zeus Carnage first and took out 2 before we were 1-4 on beacons. Deployed Plasma Galahad and must have taken out 3-4 Leos before a Russian Griffin killed me. Dropped a Magnum Orkan Griffin. Killed 1 and 1/2 Griffins. By then it was a 4v5. Dropped a Plasma Gareth and must have captured 2-3 beacons and taken out a Natasha or something. Last bot, 3v5. Dropped an Orkan Pinata Galahad. I was pretty sure there was a Rhino because I spent a good minute trying to kill it. 1v3 now. Killed a Patton and there was 2 Leos left. At the end, it was all hit-and-run and beacon caps. If you want to know how I remember games, I have pretty good memory. I can still tell you how the battle when I fought you and your clan 3-4 months ago. Really ? Oscam was the best player on the red team and you are asking for more profiles? you are very happy with that million and 10 gold against 4 hangar players so you may want to stop |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 20:01:28 GMT -5
How about the other guys? You put a picture of Oscam twice. I remember how that match went. It was a placement game for Diamond 3. 6v6 for once. Deployed Zeus Carnage first and took out 2 before we were 1-4 on beacons. Deployed Plasma Galahad and must have taken out 3-4 Leos before a Russian Griffin killed me. Dropped a Magnum Orkan Griffin. Killed 1 and 1/2 Griffins. By then it was a 4v5. Dropped a Plasma Gareth and must have captured 2-3 beacons and taken out a Natasha or something. Last bot, 3v5. Dropped an Orkan Pinata Galahad. I was pretty sure there was a Rhino because I spent a good minute trying to kill it. 1v3 now. Killed a Patton and there was 2 Leos left. At the end, it was all hit-and-run and beacon caps. If you want to know how I remember games, I have pretty good memory. I can still tell you how the battle when I fought you and your clan 3-4 months ago. Really ? Oscam was the best player on the red team and you are asking for more profiles? you are very happy with that million and 10 gold against 4 hangar players so you may want to stop I was seeing if there was more Leos. I am certain that I took out quite a few. And you didn't answer my question to you; are you a tanker or not? You may want to share the link above if your clan tanks in a squad while going down. |
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Post by DIeGo100% on Mar 30, 2017 20:03:16 GMT -5
Really ? Oscam was the best player on the red team and you are asking for more profiles? you are very happy with that million and 10 gold against 4 hangar players so you may want to stop I was seeing if there was more Leos. I am certain that I took out quite a few. And you didn't answer my question to you; are you a tanker or not? You may want to share the link above if your clan tanks in a squad while going down. hahahahahaha i am so scared! dont worry i will share it with my crew |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 30, 2017 20:20:50 GMT -5
So says the self confessed "light" gep clubber. As if Gep clubbing was any better than tanking. Boom is capable of speaking for himself but I'd like to say a little to that... He stopped clubbing, and changed his tune on the whole thing. And yeah, I get what he's saying. And I think you took him wrong... Firstly, if you are an old War Robots vet and have been playing a while, please forgive me for telling you stuff you already know... The first incarnation of true seal clubbing was deffo the Geps, and as a player who came up through the tiers without a clan for most of the time I was in Bronze and Silver, Geps were bad. There was a time when every 3rd game was a Gep Squad of 3 or more with weapons that we couldn't last against, being level 8 in bronze and 10-12 in Silver when our weapons were half that, at the least, sometimes 1/3, with bots that were nowhere near the speed of the Geps. And their HP at the time (pre-nerf) was almost the same as the comparable Medium bots. It was as bad to that time as tanking is to this time. Now, I am not saying they were equal in actual crappiness... but the situation was equal in the effect it was having to the lower tiers. There were plenty of people that stated they were leaving b/c of the TriMaggies, at the time. And the controversy over PoH was going strong. Everyone knew it was pointless to compete with people who jimmied the game to their advantage, so the majority of the players that won and benefited from the rewards of PoH were clubbers, towards the end. That didn't sit well with A LOT of folks and was a huge driving force for Pix to change it. I don't think you've been playing long enough, Tricky Wicket. When I started I was clubbed by Mag Stalkers, before Pixo put a MM penalty on them. By the time I saved up enough WSP for 1 Stalker Pixo had put the MM penalty on and I got beat even worse. So I quit playing for ~8 months. Gepard club is nowhere near as bad as Stalker clubbing in my opinion. At least you can get a couple shots into a Gepard before it kills you. |
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Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 30, 2017 20:27:37 GMT -5
I was doing the research on my phone. It's difficult to see the pictures when I posted it. I posted a screenshot with all the other names of the players in the league that you played against. All of them were gold and some of them are not even level 30 yet. I think the screenshot you posted is proof enough that you were not in a squad. And it's also prove that you were playing against people that were lower than you in league. You made statements in the past about how many being a clan leader and I should lead. That is true. However, you post on this forum more than I play the game. You offer a lot of great insight on the game which I think is great. However, your attitudes toward people to play the game the way you don't like, don't seem to fit your own rules. I had a guy apply for the clan the other day, in our clan chat he started asking about group squad tanking. My clan has never engage in this sort of activity and when I asked about it, he was referring back to your posts about me and assumed that was the kind of clan I ran. Your influence on this form spreads much farther than the 39 people I manage in Anarchy. Is it so bad that I want to hold you accountable for your actions the same way you hold me for mine? The first and only time I have tanked was the one time you caught me before the league system even started, playing cassocks. Now you've been caught doing the exact same thing and you're still trying to backpedal. I don't think I need to explain any further, the pictures I posted pretty much paint a picture of what you really are.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 30, 2017 20:30:10 GMT -5
Boom is capable of speaking for himself but I'd like to say a little to that... He stopped clubbing, and changed his tune on the whole thing. And yeah, I get what he's saying. And I think you took him wrong... Firstly, if you are an old War Robots vet and have been playing a while, please forgive me for telling you stuff you already know... The first incarnation of true seal clubbing was deffo the Geps, and as a player who came up through the tiers without a clan for most of the time I was in Bronze and Silver, Geps were bad. There was a time when every 3rd game was a Gep Squad of 3 or more with weapons that we couldn't last against, being level 8 in bronze and 10-12 in Silver when our weapons were half that, at the least, sometimes 1/3, with bots that were nowhere near the speed of the Geps. And their HP at the time (pre-nerf) was almost the same as the comparable Medium bots. It was as bad to that time as tanking is to this time. Now, I am not saying they were equal in actual crappiness... but the situation was equal in the effect it was having to the lower tiers. There were plenty of people that stated they were leaving b/c of the TriMaggies, at the time. And the controversy over PoH was going strong. Everyone knew it was pointless to compete with people who jimmied the game to their advantage, so the majority of the players that won and benefited from the rewards of PoH were clubbers, towards the end. That didn't sit well with A LOT of folks and was a huge driving force for Pix to change it. I don't think you've been playing long enough, Tricky Wicket. When I started I was clubbed by Mag Stalkers, before Pixo put a MM penalty on them. By the time I saved up enough WSP for 1 Stalker Pixo had put the MM penalty on and I got beat even worse. So I quit playing for ~8 months. Gepard club is nowhere near as bad as Stalker clubbing in my opinion. At least you can get a couple shots into a Gepard before it kills you. True... I forgot about them, I guess b/c Pix actually did something about them LOL |
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Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 30, 2017 20:32:48 GMT -5
</div></div>I didn't get my max damage with a squad. My screenshot is there in Flex's discord. All of the pilots on the other side are gold league 1 to 3..      |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 30, 2017 20:34:22 GMT -5
How TF are they in Gold?  ? |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 30, 2017 20:34:47 GMT -5
OH... iOS... damn that is a big difference.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 30, 2017 20:40:32 GMT -5
How TF are they in Gold? ? Obviously, gold is not what it used to be. From what I've seen with players wanting to join my clan and looking at hangers all day mid bronze is the new mid gold. Of course, they are robot levels are much higher compared to the old system but their skills, number of victories, and Max damage are pretty close to that. Dark angel is a mid diamond player, and was playing low silver five months ago when I was. Of course, being the poor seal clubbing pilot that I am I managed to eek my way all the way up to expert one league, how this is possible I'm not sure because I apparently have no skills... |
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 30, 2017 20:41:28 GMT -5
We want our Geps back or we're destroying the game? Any one else hear that? "Ethical" tanking..lol...Fighters that throw matches for payoffs more like it...Pix is stuck now in a do or die situation...they slay the monster they birthed in the clubbibg era, or go under.
I suppose telling a kid to hand over his iPhone or else instead of pushing him down and taking it is more ethical...
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 30, 2017 20:44:56 GMT -5
</div></div></div></div></div>So, now I am curious... in iOS, where would this be?  EDIT-Finally with the help of my clan mate @gildedwolf I managed to break into Gold 1 a lil while ago... so consider this a Gold hangar. |
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 30, 2017 20:50:13 GMT -5
</div>If you listen to half the Android guys on the Forum, that's Recruit. |
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Post by Paps on Mar 30, 2017 20:59:56 GMT -5
ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48Congrats! on getting out of the Silver hellhole! Gold is still bad, but I don't think quite as bad. haha
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