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Post by DIeGo100% on Mar 31, 2017 16:02:04 GMT -5
</div>whit that hangar you couul be on diamond with no problem
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 31, 2017 16:27:50 GMT -5
Ethical tanking leads to ethical clubbing. Maybe pix can swing an "ethical ban hammer" and then Dread can have war wolves write a nice article about how its fun not to play for a few days. Sure you can go email them but you can also go to this article on the War Robots section of reddit and summon /u/PXNC_tofsla and ask him to swing that ethical ban hammer. The more people who do it publicly, the more people who demand it, the more likely it is to happen... I will happily go upvote any one on reddit who does it, but I'm sick of being the one to yell at /u/PXNC_tofsla someone else has to, breaking his stones is getting kind of old
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Post by hi5 on Apr 2, 2017 12:24:11 GMT -5
Ethical tanking leads to ethical clubbing. "Ethical" tanking can also muddy the waters too, like "separate but equal". Not flaming anyone here (and not directing this at zer00eyz - just quoting for context). To each their own on a free game. But seeing more partial squad tanking that follows the model described in this thread but without full squads, leaving 2v6 which can be brutal. Do what you want, but know that others will learn and (often imperfectly) imitate you. For example this gem where a squad ejected all their bots at start then play the last just enough to register participation.
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 2, 2017 12:47:37 GMT -5
"Ethical" tanking can also muddy the waters too, like "separate but equal". Not flaming anyone here (and not directing this at zer00eyz - just quoting for context). To each their own on a free game. But seeing more partial squad tanking that follows the model described in this thread but without full squads, leaving 2v6 which can be brutal. Do what you want, but know that others will learn and (often imperfectly) imitate you. For example this gem where a squad ejected all their bots at start then play the last just enough to register participation. To each their own on a game is a pretty good take on this. (the free part isn't relevant) I have actually been contemplating pining an old gaming buddy mine with a PHD in leisure studies (yes it is a thing). I think there is something pretty interesting going on in the mobile space as a whole that hasn't been looked at that deeply. F2P is play but your also free to pay, to cut out all the tedious grinding. However what is the sweet spot for that pay vs play. Most of us think pix's prices are outrageous but they aren't exactly running sales every week so were talking about a premium product (tiffany's is a premium product, they never discount). There are also people who DO NOT have the means to pay. Kids in the states, people in parts of the world where economic means are different. Someone in another thread pointed out that the chests/events introduce gambling into the game, and reminded me that there is outsized interest in gambling in asian culture. Based on the results of how the leagues actually function, pix is either completely incompetent or actually encouraging tanking. Their unwillingness to swing the ban hammer and lay claim to the policy (witch would be a clear statement) makes me suspect that they are aware of it and don't care. Meanwhile were all preening over it, and honestly no one is asking them in a public forum, and holding their feet to the fire to get a clear cut answer to the questions at hand.
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Post by hi5 on Apr 2, 2017 13:30:16 GMT -5
I'd wager you're unlikely to get a satisfactory response. I think they will straddle the line between indifference to frustration (which research shows will increase player $ spend) and social outreach (token efforts to mollify a user base). There are so many users that it will take a considerable movement to move the needle - losing a million players is probably acceptable if they increase revenue from other players by just a few percentage points.
Considering the broad international player base, I'd be curious to know what the reaction is outside the US. Could be some cultural norms at play - are Russian/Chinese/etc as agitated? What percentage of players do they compose, and are there more extensive outreach efforts in non-English speaking areas? If US only makes up a minority percentage of users then our reactions will be muted.
I strongly agree that we're reaching a evolution point in mobile games. Native apps will soon make way to web apps (no more divisions by OS). And companies are becoming more sophisticated in generating revenue from "free" games. What's most concerning to me is that user data is now a commodity (possibly the most important one), so acquiring an app/dev team with a successful game (20+ MM users like War Robots) has value outside just game revenue and dev talent. I'm shocked there isn't advertising in War Robots yet, but it's probably on the dev roadmap. If what I have read is accurate, the MM update was about fixing the spaghetti code - not about stopping clubbers. Sure they want to convert farmers into spenders, but that's small potatoes. Selling ads directed at 20MM people will yield much higher revenue.
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Post by zer00eyz on Apr 2, 2017 16:31:57 GMT -5
I'd wager you're unlikely to get a satisfactory response. I would, as an individual yes. As a group, doing it in a public way, pix would have a hard time ignoring it for long. It's hard for people to believe the power that they possess on line. It is hard to believe how something small can evolve into something big. Theres a template for this stuff, it isn't hard...
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 11:19:50 GMT -5
And a bump and a lock.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 23, 2017 11:31:05 GMT -5
Sure, happy to have the opportunity to make your day.
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