CossackGuy
Destrier
Posts: 14
Karma: 13
Platform: iOS
League: Gold
Favorite robot: Cossack
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Post by CossackGuy on Mar 7, 2018 11:19:43 GMT -5
Beacon capper here.. Sometimes I run a full Cossack/Shield hanger. My choice.. it's fun. But TDM is a challenge... In the last 290 games (yes the nerd keeps track) I've been forced to play TDM 95 times. - BTW, yes, I have tried KOTH - in my other account - I shot from Diamond to Champion league, but there are no players there (confirmed by Pixonic) so it's a 45 min wait time. So I cannot play KOTH (see thread) unless...
- I play the "tanking yo-yo game", lose to drop down, move back up, repeat. Or else..
- Play "random"
So I went back to "random". At first I obediently sat through the TDM's, reading a book or whatever, occasionally jumping in to save a game when blue is all dead, or shielding/drawing reds away from an outnumbered blue. But really it's pointless and I started getting tired of it. About 150 games was the last straw, I hit a stretch of 11 of 15 TDM games. Enough is enough! So now when I play TDM... my objective is to ruin it.
I wait until the blue team is dead, then start dropping my little Cossacks, not easy to kill. A "win" is iff I can make it to the end; my record is six minutes. But I don't just make the Reds chase me. I harass them, climb things, stand out of range doing 360's, etc. Or if I'm pressed for time, I'll just eject four and quickly kill the fifth. Blue starts the game 0-5. Hey that's a free win for five people but only a loss for four.. net effect is I'm helping one player. But man, I must really piss some of you guys off! Civil Disobedience. There's a reason for it. I don't agree, I didn't sign up for this, and I'm not going to play along. If enough people complain, maybe Pixonic will do something about it. IF YOU ALSO HATE TDM... you could also RESIST. Drop in when it's just an MK12 Lancelot tanker left, then practice jumps and spins and new routes while running your Cossack across Yamamoto with him futilely in tow. Draw him waay back.. chase you under the helipad, then spawn back at your home and sit and enjoy the view while he marches for a few minutes. You won! Seriously, if more people would deliberately mess with the game, maybe the complaints will send the message to Pixonic. If they care. And I truly am sympathetic to those who love TDM and to the innocent bystanders who are subjected to my play. I get that you may hate what I'm doing, and that you may feel that players like me are ruining the game. I agree with you! That's why I'm doing it. Tell Pixonic you want to play serious TDM players only. LET US OUT.
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Post by CrownBlack on Mar 7, 2018 11:22:48 GMT -5
this is actually pretty simple, you can do whatever you like. Pix doesn't give two 「dookie」s. TDM is here to stay.
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CossackGuy
Destrier
Posts: 14
Karma: 13
Platform: iOS
League: Gold
Favorite robot: Cossack
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Post by CossackGuy on Mar 7, 2018 11:29:15 GMT -5
Understood, and thanks for the support. But 11 of 15 TDM's in a row happens, that's sitting through 2 hrs of TDM just to play for 30 minutes. Minecraft is starting to look good again. Plus ethically.. I feel the need to justify. I don't spoil the game just to be an?bum-bum? (guess you can't say the three letter "a word" here
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Post by AcuityAxiom on Mar 7, 2018 11:29:49 GMT -5
I wish we could put TDM under quarantine like this thread
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Post by percysbane on Mar 7, 2018 12:04:24 GMT -5
I gotta say, your posts are under quarantine but your point is clear. frankly, it's a stupid idea. If you aren't willing to take the game as it is, don't wreck it for everyone by leaving the game. That ruins the game for those of us who actually PLAY PROPERLY. If you are completely unwilling to play TDM, TAKE A BREAK. Go find another game, or stopdoing War Robots for a while. TDM is here to stay, at least for now, (contradiction I know) and if you can't deal with it, don't play.
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Post by fizbanrapper on Mar 7, 2018 12:13:04 GMT -5
I gotta say, your posts are under quarantine but your point is clear. frankly, it's a stupid idea. If you aren't willing to take the game as it is, don't wreck it for everyone by leaving the game. That ruins the game for those of us who actually PLAY PROPERLY. If you are completely unwilling to play TDM, TAKE A BREAK. Go find another game, or stopdoing War Robots for a while. TDM is here to stay, at least for now, (contradiction I know) and if you can't deal with it, don't play. In other words, don't ever complain about anything ever. Just do it the way they tell you, or don't participate at all.... And I suppose I shouldn't complain when I don't like either political candidate either. I'm sorry, but that view is epically dumber than any anti TDM suggestion I've ever seen.
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Post by bronzeknee on Mar 7, 2018 12:15:35 GMT -5
I did leave a match for the first time ever yesterday. It was my third game of TDM on Yamantau in row, and I decided to leave at the start figuring one leave wouldn't place me in LPQ. I was rewarded with a game of Domination on Valley after.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 7, 2018 12:27:52 GMT -5
I gotta say, your posts are under quarantine but your point is clear. frankly, it's a stupid idea. If you aren't willing to take the game as it is, don't wreck it for everyone by leaving the game. That ruins the game for those of us who actually PLAY PROPERLY. If you are completely unwilling to play TDM, TAKE A BREAK. Go find another game, or stopdoing War Robots for a while. TDM is here to stay, at least for now, (contradiction I know) and if you can't deal with it, don't play. In other words, don't ever complain about anything ever. Just do it the way they tell you, or don't participate at all.... And I suppose I shouldn't complain when I don't like either political candidate either. I'm sorry, but that view is epically dumber than any anti TDM suggestion I've ever seen. No, I think you missed his point. He said don't leave the match and ruin others' games.
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Post by Roninsedge on Mar 7, 2018 12:32:18 GMT -5
If you don't like the mode, leave at the beginning of the match. This allows someone else who may like the mode to replace you and improve the game experience. There are people who like playing the game and this mode in particular. It's a D move to ruin other people's play experience. The other players didn't subject you to this game mode, Pix did. There are avenues for you to voice your dislike of the mode.
Also, equating what you are proposing to civil disobedience is quite immature and does a disservice to people who use it as a way to enact change for IMPORTANT issues, not a video game mode.
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Post by codebrown on Mar 7, 2018 12:46:39 GMT -5
Beacon capper here.. Sometimes I run a full Cossack/Shield hanger. My choice.. it's fun. But TDM is a challenge... In the last 290 games (yes the nerd keeps track) I've been forced to play TDM 95 times. - BTW, yes, I have tried KOTH - in my other account - I shot from Diamond to Champion league, but there are no players there (confirmed by Pixonic) so it's a 45 min wait time. So I cannot play KOTH (see thread) unless...
- I play the "tanking yo-yo game", lose to drop down, move back up, repeat. Or else..
- Play "random"
So I went back to "random". At first I obediently sat through the TDM's, reading a book or whatever, occasionally jumping in to save a game when blue is all dead, or shielding/drawing reds away from an outnumbered blue. But really it's pointless and I started getting tired of it. About 150 games was the last straw, I hit a stretch of 11 of 15 TDM games. Enough is enough! So now when I play TDM... my objective is to ruin it.
I wait until the blue team is dead, then start dropping my little Cossacks, not easy to kill. A "win" is iff I can make it to the end; my record is six minutes. But I don't just make the Reds chase me. I harass them, climb things, stand out of range doing 360's, etc. Or if I'm pressed for time, I'll just eject four and quickly kill the fifth. Blue starts the game 0-5. Hey that's a free win for five people but only a loss for four.. net effect is I'm helping one player. But man, I must really piss some of you guys off! Civil Disobedience. There's a reason for it. I don't agree, I didn't sign up for this, and I'm not going to play along. If enough people complain, maybe Pixonic will do something about it. IF YOU ALSO HATE TDM... you could also RESIST. Drop in when it's just an MK12 Lancelot tanker left, then practice jumps and spins and new routes while running your Cossack across Yamamoto with him futilely in tow. Draw him waay back.. chase you under the helipad, then spawn back at your home and sit and enjoy the view while he marches for a few minutes. You won! Seriously, if more people would deliberately mess with the game, maybe the complaints will send the message to Pixonic. If they care. And I truly am sympathetic to those who love TDM and to the innocent bystanders who are subjected to my play. I get that you may hate what I'm doing, and that you may feel that players like me are ruining the game. I agree with you! That's why I'm doing it. Tell Pixonic you want to play serious TDM players only. LET US OUT. 95/290 = 32.75% TDM games. Considering there's only three game modes with 33.33% chance at each... You're beating the odds! And if you're ejecting 4/5 and quickly killing the last... there's a term for that... It's called tanking. Very frowned upon here. (I can neither confirm nor deny tanking TDM games on occasion myself simply because I hate TDM too, but that's beside the point, lol) I won't judge your playstyle, but I'd personally recommend trying to run "fast" bots with some teeth instead of shield Cossacks, so you can help your team out a little more. There's plenty out there that are just as fast (and some faster!) than Cossacks. Stalker would be right up your ally if you love that playstyle. So would the Gareth. Rogatka and Kumiho is the next step up from there.
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Post by Why? on Mar 7, 2018 12:49:21 GMT -5
He runs full beacon capping hangar , that too not Kumis or Striders, but Cossacks with shields. He farms for himself and no doesn't play for the team. I am not surprised he is proposed what he did. Even without TDM this person engages is behaviour that benefits no one but himself, and will most likey cost the match.
Blaming Pix is fine and all, but you're an 「bum-bum chapeau」 even without them. I'm glad your experience is being ruined.
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Post by AcuityAxiom on Mar 7, 2018 13:00:15 GMT -5
Though i disagree to your Cossack capping strat you use in other game modes and the use of tanking, that's all you, I SAY WE 「fluffernutter」 AROUND IN TDM TO OUR HEARTS CONTENT.
*Sticks an Ancile on a Schutze*
COME AND GET ME YOU SPYDRA COWARDS!
In all seriousness, i really hope they make a filter so we can choose what we want to play and not force TDM down the throats of those who'd prefer objective based gameplay.
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 7, 2018 13:14:56 GMT -5
All you're going to do is make the mode even more miserable for the people unfortunate enough to be on your team. You're basically asking people to troll the mode. When I play, no mater what mode I'm in, I'll play my best.
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Post by Destroyer on Mar 7, 2018 13:19:52 GMT -5
Whenever I am in TDM, I wait to see if anyone drop a bot on my team, if no one drop a bot, the game ends in 10 seconds
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Post by benveg on Mar 7, 2018 13:29:52 GMT -5
Me on Cossack: Problem?
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Post by hon_shu on Mar 7, 2018 13:55:41 GMT -5
Beacon capper here.. Sometimes I run a full Cossack/Shield hanger. My choice.. it's fun. But TDM is a challenge... In the last 290 games (yes the nerd keeps track) I've been forced to play TDM 95 times. - BTW, yes, I have tried KOTH - in my other account - I shot from Diamond to Champion league, but there are no players there (confirmed by Pixonic) so it's a 45 min wait time. So I cannot play KOTH (see thread) unless...
- I play the "tanking yo-yo game", lose to drop down, move back up, repeat. Or else..
- Play "random"
So I went back to "random". At first I obediently sat through the TDM's, reading a book or whatever, occasionally jumping in to save a game when blue is all dead, or shielding/drawing reds away from an outnumbered blue. But really it's pointless and I started getting tired of it. About 150 games was the last straw, I hit a stretch of 11 of 15 TDM games. Enough is enough! So now when I play TDM... my objective is to ruin it.
I wait until the blue team is dead, then start dropping my little Cossacks, not easy to kill. A "win" is iff I can make it to the end; my record is six minutes. But I don't just make the Reds chase me. I harass them, climb things, stand out of range doing 360's, etc. Or if I'm pressed for time, I'll just eject four and quickly kill the fifth. Blue starts the game 0-5. Hey that's a free win for five people but only a loss for four.. net effect is I'm helping one player. But man, I must really piss some of you guys off! Civil Disobedience. There's a reason for it. I don't agree, I didn't sign up for this, and I'm not going to play along. If enough people complain, maybe Pixonic will do something about it. IF YOU ALSO HATE TDM... you could also RESIST. Drop in when it's just an MK12 Lancelot tanker left, then practice jumps and spins and new routes while running your Cossack across Yamamoto with him futilely in tow. Draw him waay back.. chase you under the helipad, then spawn back at your home and sit and enjoy the view while he marches for a few minutes. You won! Seriously, if more people would deliberately mess with the game, maybe the complaints will send the message to Pixonic. If they care. And I truly am sympathetic to those who love TDM and to the innocent bystanders who are subjected to my play. I get that you may hate what I'm doing, and that you may feel that players like me are ruining the game. I agree with you! That's why I'm doing it. Tell Pixonic you want to play serious TDM players only. LET US OUT. I don't really like that you ruin the game for the other players. But trolling seems to be on the rise, and understandably so with all the recent advancements Pixonic has come up lately to maximize frustration of their player base (Mk2, Shocktrain, Spectre, Mk2 Shocktrain Spectre, forced game modes, etc...). Best thing to do is if none of the players dropped a bot --> game ends within 15s in a DRAW and everyone can go home and play DOM and BR. I encourage everyone in a full squad to do so, and in any case, drop your bot in TDM only after each team has dropped one.
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Post by percysbane on Mar 7, 2018 14:20:53 GMT -5
I gotta say, your posts are under quarantine but your point is clear. frankly, it's a stupid idea. If you aren't willing to take the game as it is, don't wreck it for everyone by leaving the game. That ruins the game for those of us who actually PLAY PROPERLY. If you are completely unwilling to play TDM, TAKE A BREAK. Go find another game, or stopdoing War Robots for a while. TDM is here to stay, at least for now, (contradiction I know) and if you can't deal with it, don't play. In other words, don't ever complain about anything ever. Just do it the way they tell you, or don't participate at all.... And I suppose I shouldn't complain when I don't like either political candidate either. I'm sorry, but that view is epically dumber than any anti TDM suggestion I've ever seen. like roninsedge said, you missed my point. I never said anything about complaining. Feel free to do so. Your "In Other Words" Are not in other words, but a COMPLETELY different thing than I said. I said DON'T RUIN THE GAME FOR EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT. You can complain however much you want, it just won't make a difference to do it here.
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Post by endyu on Mar 7, 2018 17:51:52 GMT -5
How I play TDM is just as aggressively as possible without just running my bots in to die.
It's good practice, it makes it somewhat enjoyable, and sometimes you get through to the Hydras/Snipers and just clean house which is extremely satisfying. I still prefer not to play TDM and when I get many consecutive games in a row, I lose all interest in the game for a while. It's definitely frustrating so I get where you're coming from.
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Mar 7, 2018 18:53:25 GMT -5
Whenever I am in TDM, I wait to see if anyone drop a bot on my team, if no one drop a bot, the game ends in 10 seconds I've been wondering why people drop so late on TDM. It never occurred to me they are hoping nobody drops. This info needs to be stickied and spread to reddit, FB, everywhere. I hate to think that all this time I've been the reason we played TDM
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Post by RedRaider on Mar 7, 2018 19:25:49 GMT -5
If you don't like the mode, leave at the beginning of the match. This allows someone else who may like the mode to replace you and improve the game experience. There are people who like playing the game and this mode in particular. It's a D move to ruin other people's play experience. The other players didn't subject you to this game mode, Pix did. There are avenues for you to voice your dislike of the mode. Also, equating what you are proposing to civil disobedience is quite immature and does a disservice to people who use it as a way to enact change for IMPORTANT issues, not a video game mode. Be very careful Roninsedge with name calling on this forum . Calling someone the way YOU see them is frowned upon. One must tow the party line here, be civil and let <uneducated-wittless> be <uneducated-wittless>. However I agree with you about leaving at the beginning. Amazon has no LPQ so there is no consequence for doing so. I do understand his point but it wont accomplish anything. Pix won't care. If they cared then they would take the communities input and implement a compromise. So what does only pisses off the community he belongs in. kinda pissing in your own water bowl.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Mar 7, 2018 19:48:11 GMT -5
Putting Civil Disobedience in a game is going too far. And I don't like the idea of intensionally ruining others game as well.
BUT,
Since Pix take away our freedom of choice, I fully support anyone who would play the game in his only style. Players are here looking for entertainments. They are not employees who must follow policies and procedures. Btw playing for the sole purpose to ruin others is usually not enjoyable (except for freaks) and eventually kills your own experience with the game. If you plan to stay, try to find some way/sweet spot so that the game is still enjoyable to you.
TL;DR: don't try to ruin others game but play the game just as you like.
P.S. speaking from a quitter's perspective.
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Post by tonyfla on Mar 7, 2018 19:51:18 GMT -5
If you don't like the mode, leave at the beginning of the match. This allows someone else who may like the mode to replace you and improve the game experience. There are people who like playing the game and this mode in particular. It's a D move to ruin other people's play experience. The other players didn't subject you to this game mode, Pix did. There are avenues for you to voice your dislike of the mode. Also, equating what you are proposing to civil disobedience is quite immature and does a disservice to people who use it as a way to enact change for IMPORTANT issues, not a video game mode. ^^^^ Wish there was a way to like a post more than once.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 7, 2018 20:35:03 GMT -5
All you're going to do is make the mode even more miserable for the people unfortunate enough to be on your team. You're basically asking people to troll the mode. When I play, no mater what mode I'm in, I'll play my best. Yup, and this is why I no longer play on the Android servers. I want to choose for myself which game mode/s that I play based on what I actually like. I certainly do not want to be forced to play game modes under threat of withholding rewards and long mm times. I leave game modes all the time on the Amazon servers. I do not give a ?poo-poo? what anyone thinks of me for doing it either. ?fluffy bunny? 'em. The player pool there is way too shallow to punish players by removing them from the regular queue. If they did there would be no Amazon servers at all. Since the implementation of Random almost every match I've played in the Amazon servers has 1-4 0 damage players. And very often, 40% or more of the time, matches start with 1-4 late drop ins as well due to people like myself dropping out before the match starts. As late as a minute and a half. So LPQ is a no go in the Amazon servers, or it dies. If this would start occurring in the iOS and Android servers you can bet PIXONIC would make the necessary changes to make the player base happy. If they actually gave a damn that is. But the LPQ has a hold on some people. They endure game modes that they do not like to avoid that ?poo-poo?hole. Who punishes players for not liking to play game modes they do not enjoy playing? Seems like typical Russian communist commissar thinking to me. During WWII political officers were assigned to every unit to shoot soldiers in the back if they tried to retreat/run. The LPQ amounts to the same ?poo-poo? for many players. Me, I'd shoot the political officers first before I executed a retreat.
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Post by mobiuswr on Mar 7, 2018 20:48:49 GMT -5
Beacon capper here.. Sometimes I run a full Cossack/Shield hanger. My choice.. it's fun. But TDM is a challenge... In the last 290 games (yes the nerd keeps track) I've been forced to play TDM 95 times. - BTW, yes, I have tried KOTH - in my other account - I shot from Diamond to Champion league, but there are no players there (confirmed by Pixonic) so it's a 45 min wait time. So I cannot play KOTH (see thread) unless...
- I play the "tanking yo-yo game", lose to drop down, move back up, repeat. Or else..
- Play "random"
So I went back to "random". At first I obediently sat through the TDM's, reading a book or whatever, occasionally jumping in to save a game when blue is all dead, or shielding/drawing reds away from an outnumbered blue. But really it's pointless and I started getting tired of it. About 150 games was the last straw, I hit a stretch of 11 of 15 TDM games. Enough is enough! So now when I play TDM... my objective is to ruin it.
I wait until the blue team is dead, then start dropping my little Cossacks, not easy to kill. A "win" is iff I can make it to the end; my record is six minutes. But I don't just make the Reds chase me. I harass them, climb things, stand out of range doing 360's, etc. Or if I'm pressed for time, I'll just eject four and quickly kill the fifth. Blue starts the game 0-5. Hey that's a free win for five people but only a loss for four.. net effect is I'm helping one player. But man, I must really piss some of you guys off! Civil Disobedience. There's a reason for it. I don't agree, I didn't sign up for this, and I'm not going to play along. If enough people complain, maybe Pixonic will do something about it. IF YOU ALSO HATE TDM... you could also RESIST. Drop in when it's just an MK12 Lancelot tanker left, then practice jumps and spins and new routes while running your Cossack across Yamamoto with him futilely in tow. Draw him waay back.. chase you under the helipad, then spawn back at your home and sit and enjoy the view while he marches for a few minutes. You won! Seriously, if more people would deliberately mess with the game, maybe the complaints will send the message to Pixonic. If they care. And I truly am sympathetic to those who love TDM and to the innocent bystanders who are subjected to my play. I get that you may hate what I'm doing, and that you may feel that players like me are ruining the game. I agree with you! That's why I'm doing it. Tell Pixonic you want to play serious TDM players only. LET US OUT. I like you. Fight the Power!
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Post by fizbanrapper on Mar 7, 2018 21:04:23 GMT -5
I can't take it. Some of you well meaning folks should rethink this.
I want to address this "don't ruin it for others" argument. Most of the time I agree, but not in this case. Only about 10% of uses said they actually enjoy TDM in the recent poll. So out of 12 players in a match, there's probably only one person who is really enjoying the mode... and he's the one who is running hydra builds. That's one of the biggest reasons that the mode is unplayable in the first place. Nix the campers and TDM could actually be a playable mode.
So let me get this straight, 10-11 of us are supposed to make an honest effort in a mode we hate but are forced to play, just so we can be "fun" prey for the 1-2 camper dudes who actually enjoy this crap? I'm sorry, but that's not happening.
Those of you who are on the crowd of not ruining it for others should really rethink just how many people are hating this too. Your participation with your brawling hangar loads the hydra spectre/fujin's pocket with silver. Silver he'll use to level up his hydra. Is that what you really want?
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Post by Nitro on Mar 7, 2018 21:06:52 GMT -5
I do a similar thing when I'm the last bot standing because I was doing my best to preserve my robots. Spent a good minute and a half dashing all over powerplant in my Kumiho and watching the whole Red team desperately chase me about.
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Post by fizbanrapper on Mar 7, 2018 21:14:23 GMT -5
Oh, and also keep in mind that they can't throw us ALL in LPQ.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 7, 2018 21:23:00 GMT -5
The only way PIXONIC could make TDM enjoyable for me is to remove the beacon possession slider and make it simply a possession accomplishment. Remove the match countdown timer and let the match play itself out by either a full five beacon possession and/or a complete bot out by one team. And leave out those scenery destroying "covers". Total Domination without any of the counters, countdowns or let downs. This is what I advocated repeatedly to PIXONIC but they 「fluffernutter」ed it up and badly.
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Post by r2d2 on Mar 7, 2018 21:31:32 GMT -5
I can't take it. Some of you well meaning folks should rethink this. I want to address this "don't ruin it for others" argument. Most of the time I agree, but not in this case. Only about 10% of uses said they actually enjoy TDM in the recent poll. So out of 12 players in a match, there's probably only one person who is really enjoying the mode... and he's the one who is running hydra builds. That's one of the biggest reasons that the mode is unplayable in the first place. Nix the campers and TDM could actually be a playable mode. So let me get this straight, 10-11 of us are supposed to make an honest effort in a mode we hate but are forced to play, just so we can be "fun" prey for the 1-2 camper dudes who actually enjoy this crap? I'm sorry, but that's not happening. Those of you who are on the crowd of not ruining it for others should really rethink just how many people are hating this too. Your participation with your brawling hangar loads the hydra spectre/fujin's pocket with silver. Silver he'll use to level up his hydra. Is that what you really want? Where is this recent poll? How many actually voted? Link please so I can see for myself.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 7, 2018 21:33:42 GMT -5
I can't take it. Some of you well meaning folks should rethink this. I want to address this "don't ruin it for others" argument. Most of the time I agree, but not in this case. Only about 10% of uses said they actually enjoy TDM in the recent poll. So out of 12 players in a match, there's probably only one person who is really enjoying the mode... and he's the one who is running hydra builds. That's one of the biggest reasons that the mode is unplayable in the first place. Nix the campers and TDM could actually be a playable mode. So let me get this straight, 10-11 of us are supposed to make an honest effort in a mode we hate but are forced to play, just so we can be "fun" prey for the 1-2 camper dudes who actually enjoy this crap? I'm sorry, but that's not happening. Those of you who are on the crowd of not ruining it for others should really rethink just how many people are hating this too. Your participation with your brawling hangar loads the hydra spectre/fujin's pocket with silver. Silver he'll use to level up his hydra. Is that what you really want? Where is this recent poll? How many actually voted? Link please so I can see for myself. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/threads/recent/20969
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