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Post by fizbanrapper on Mar 7, 2018 21:44:29 GMT -5
I can't take it. Some of you well meaning folks should rethink this. I want to address this "don't ruin it for others" argument. Most of the time I agree, but not in this case. Only about 10% of uses said they actually enjoy TDM in the recent poll. So out of 12 players in a match, there's probably only one person who is really enjoying the mode... and he's the one who is running hydra builds. That's one of the biggest reasons that the mode is unplayable in the first place. Nix the campers and TDM could actually be a playable mode. So let me get this straight, 10-11 of us are supposed to make an honest effort in a mode we hate but are forced to play, just so we can be "fun" prey for the 1-2 camper dudes who actually enjoy this crap? I'm sorry, but that's not happening. Those of you who are on the crowd of not ruining it for others should really rethink just how many people are hating this too. Your participation with your brawling hangar loads the hydra spectre/fujin's pocket with silver. Silver he'll use to level up his hydra. Is that what you really want? Where is this recent poll? How many actually voted? Link please so I can see for myself. Honestly I was surprised it was that lopsided. I thought we'd get at least 30% that enjoy it. It doesn't change how much I dislike TDM, but it definitely makes me feel more justified in my actions. |
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Post by duckdecoy on Mar 7, 2018 21:44:42 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of TDM either but when I play, the blue team often wins because the red team hates TDM even more.
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Post by r2d2 on Mar 7, 2018 22:17:42 GMT -5
Oh that poll. There are less than Ten thousand members in this forum and roughly 3,000 daily guests. 136 people voted on that poll which roughly equates to 1% of the total population of members and guests combined. Sorry, but that poll is meaningless. |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 7, 2018 22:25:39 GMT -5
Oh that poll. There are less than Ten thousand members in this forum and roughly 3,000 daily guests. 136 people voted on that poll which roughly equates to 1% of the total population of members and guests combined. Sorry, but that poll is meaningless. Not if applied exponentially as all polls are. That's why it is called a poll. |
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Post by fizbanrapper on Mar 7, 2018 22:36:11 GMT -5
Oh that poll. There are less than Ten thousand members in this forum and roughly 3,000 daily guests. 136 people voted on that poll which roughly equates to 1% of the total population of members and guests combined. Sorry, but that poll is meaningless. Not if applied exponentially as all polls are. That's why it is called a poll. Statistically speaking, that's a pretty good sample. If I were performing a controls audit of 10k transactions as a CPA, professional standards dictate that I would not need to test 136 items. Half that would probably be sufficient. Asking every last person will definitely give a different result, but I'd bet a lot of money that the variance would be meaningless. |
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Post by T34 on Mar 7, 2018 23:10:49 GMT -5
I can't take it. Some of you well meaning folks should rethink this. I want to address this "don't ruin it for others" argument. Most of the time I agree, but not in this case. Only about 10% of uses said they actually enjoy TDM in the recent poll. So out of 12 players in a match, there's probably only one person who is really enjoying the mode... and he's the one who is running hydra builds. That's one of the biggest reasons that the mode is unplayable in the first place. Nix the campers and TDM could actually be a playable mode. So let me get this straight, 10-11 of us are supposed to make an honest effort in a mode we hate but are forced to play, just so we can be "fun" prey for the 1-2 camper dudes who actually enjoy this crap? I'm sorry, but that's not happening. Those of you who are on the crowd of not ruining it for others should really rethink just how many people are hating this too. Your participation with your brawling hangar loads the hydra spectre/fujin's pocket with silver. Silver he'll use to level up his hydra. Is that what you really want? Me either…... Just cant see the logic or the reasonable argument …….Leading on from your post but from a slightly different angle….
A question to all…..
Being thrown in with another random 5 players translates to a “team”/”group” with no leadership, inconsistent membership, lack of communication, no sense of belonging, no guidance, no loyalty and a whole list of other factors. Any single one of the above factors is enough to lead to the failure of any team. The matter is further complicated when rewards are considerably different between team members and thereby creating substantial internal competition. One could barely mount an argument that such a “team” qualifies even as “pseudo team”. But never as a true team in solo play.
It is also worth noting that war robots is a mobile game. Supposed to be for the individual playing the game. Almost all players invest their OWN time and OWN money in return for having fun.
Under the circumstances, I would be delighted to hear the rational as to why self interest (for an individual to have fun) is less important than the common good of playing the game to completion. Especially so when 90% do not like/despise the mode? I really cant see the rational.
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Post by leavemealone on Mar 8, 2018 0:11:44 GMT -5
Beacon capper here.. Sometimes I run a full Cossack/Shield hanger. My choice.. it's fun. But TDM is a challenge... In the last 290 games (yes the nerd keeps track) I've been forced to play TDM 95 times. - BTW, yes, I have tried KOTH - in my other account - I shot from Diamond to Champion league, but there are no players there (confirmed by Pixonic) so it's a 45 min wait time. So I cannot play KOTH (see thread) unless...
- I play the "tanking yo-yo game", lose to drop down, move back up, repeat. Or else..
- Play "random"
So I went back to "random". At first I obediently sat through the TDM's, reading a book or whatever, occasionally jumping in to save a game when blue is all dead, or shielding/drawing reds away from an outnumbered blue. But really it's pointless and I started getting tired of it. About 150 games was the last straw, I hit a stretch of 11 of 15 TDM games. Enough is enough! So now when I play TDM... my objective is to ruin it.
I wait until the blue team is dead, then start dropping my little Cossacks, not easy to kill. A "win" is iff I can make it to the end; my record is six minutes. But I don't just make the Reds chase me. I harass them, climb things, stand out of range doing 360's, etc. Or if I'm pressed for time, I'll just eject four and quickly kill the fifth. Blue starts the game 0-5. Hey that's a free win for five people but only a loss for four.. net effect is I'm helping one player. But man, I must really piss some of you guys off! Civil Disobedience. There's a reason for it. I don't agree, I didn't sign up for this, and I'm not going to play along. If enough people complain, maybe Pixonic will do something about it. IF YOU ALSO HATE TDM... you could also RESIST. Drop in when it's just an MK12 Lancelot tanker left, then practice jumps and spins and new routes while running your Cossack across Yamamoto with him futilely in tow. Draw him waay back.. chase you under the helipad, then spawn back at your home and sit and enjoy the view while he marches for a few minutes. You won! Seriously, if more people would deliberately mess with the game, maybe the complaints will send the message to Pixonic. If they care. And I truly am sympathetic to those who love TDM and to the innocent bystanders who are subjected to my play. I get that you may hate what I'm doing, and that you may feel that players like me are ruining the game. I agree with you! That's why I'm doing it. Tell Pixonic you want to play serious TDM players only. LET US OUT. while pixconic rolling up the bank counting their dough all the cows they milk , pixsonic could give rat about you not liking TDM. |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 8, 2018 0:42:43 GMT -5
Beacon capper here..   Sometimes I run a full Cossack/Shield hanger.  My choice.. it's fun.  But TDM is a challenge...  In the last 290 games (yes the nerd keeps track) I've been forced to play TDM 95 times.   - BTW, yes, I have tried KOTH - in my other account - I shot from Diamond to Champion league, but there are no players there (confirmed by Pixonic) so it's a 45 min wait time.  So I cannot play KOTH  (see thread) unless...
- I play the "tanking yo-yo game", lose to drop down, move back up, repeat. Â Or else..
- Play "random"
So I went back to "random".  At first I obediently sat through the TDM's, reading a book or whatever, occasionally jumping in to save a game when blue is all dead, or shielding/drawing reds away from an outnumbered blue.  But really it's pointless and I started getting tired of it.   About 150 games was the last straw, I hit a stretch of 11 of 15 TDM games. Enough is enough!   So now when I play TDM... my objective is to ruin it.
I wait until the blue team is dead, then start dropping my little Cossacks, not  easy to kill.  A "win" is iff I can make it to the end; my record is six minutes.  But I don't just make the Reds chase me.  I harass them, climb things, stand out of range doing 360's, etc.  Or if I'm pressed for time, I'll just eject four and quickly kill the fifth.  Blue starts the game 0-5.  Hey that's a free win for five people but only a loss for four.. net effect is I'm helping one player. But man, I must really piss some of you guys off!   Civil Disobedience.  There's a reason for it.  I don't agree, I didn't sign up for this, and I'm not going to play along.  If enough people complain, maybe Pixonic will do something about it. IF YOU ALSO HATE TDM... you could also RESIST.  Drop in when it's just an MK12 Lancelot tanker left, then practice jumps and spins and new routes while running your Cossack across Yamamoto with him futilely in tow.  Draw him waay back.. chase you under the helipad, then spawn back at your home and sit and enjoy the view while he marches for a few minutes.  You won! Seriously, if more people would deliberately mess with the game, maybe the complaints will send the message to Pixonic.  If they care. And I truly am sympathetic to those who love TDM and to the innocent bystanders who are subjected to my play.  I get that you may hate what I'm doing, and that you may feel that players like me are ruining the game.  I agree with you!  That's why I'm doing it.  Tell Pixonic you want to play serious TDM players only.  LET US OUT. while pixconic rolling up the bank counting their dough all the cows they milk , pixsonic could give rat about you not liking TDM. And that's exactly why I ask players to go and rate/re-rate the game in the app stores. Game ratings make or break games but it can also get a recalcitrant developer to pay attention to their players if they have any serious thoughts on continuing with the project. If they do not care then you can see the results in the number of downloads and in game sales pretty damn quickly as well. There isn't any point in letting the developers keep milking a few players if they don't give a 「dookie」 about a majority of players' enjoyment. |
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Post by leavemealone on Mar 8, 2018 1:01:53 GMT -5
while pixconic rolling up the bank counting their dough all the cows they milk , pixsonic could give rat about you not liking TDM. And that's exactly why I ask players to go and rate/re-rate the game in the app stores. Game ratings make or break games but it can also get a recalcitrant developer to pay attention to their players if they have any serious thoughts on continuing with the project. If they do not care then you can see the results in the number of downloads and in game sales pretty damn quickly as well. There isn't any point in letting the developers keep milking a few players if they don't give a ?poo-poo? about a majority of players' enjoyment. player being milked is their choice to spend or not. If 80% majority of the community is complaining then there is obviously something wrong with the game. You can investigate anywhere in Facebook, official pixsonic website and even on here. Two million downloads and is a huge magnitude for a small fraction to ask on here to give it a negative review. |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 8, 2018 1:10:15 GMT -5
And that's exactly why I ask players to go and rate/re-rate the game in the app stores. Game ratings make or break games but it can also get a recalcitrant developer to pay attention to their players if they have any serious thoughts on continuing with the project. If they do not care then you can see the results in the number of downloads and in game sales pretty damn quickly as well. There isn't any point in letting the developers keep milking a few players if they don't give a ?poo-poo? about a majority of players' enjoyment. player being milked is their choice to spend or not. If 80% majority of the community is complaining then there is obviously something wrong with the game. You can investigate anywhere in Facebook, official pixsonic website and even on here. Two million downloads and is a huge magnitude for a small fraction to ask on here to give it a negative review. Actually I'm not asking people to give it a bad review. I'm simply asking them to rate or re-rate the game. My opinion of the game changed dramatically from when I first rated the game. Thus the re-rate. Good or bad go rate the game. Pass the message on to other players and former players. Movement is accomplished only by overcoming inertia. |
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Post by northempire on Mar 8, 2018 3:07:59 GMT -5
player being milked is their choice to spend or not. If 80% majority of the community is complaining then there is obviously something wrong with the game. You can investigate anywhere in Facebook, official pixsonic website and even on here. Two million downloads and is a huge magnitude for a small fraction to ask on here to give it a negative review. Actually I'm not asking people to give it a bad review. I'm simply asking them to rate or re-rate the game. My opinion of the game changed dramatically from when I first rated the game. Thus the re-rate. Good or bad go rate the game. Pass the message on to other players and former players. Movement is accomplished only by overcoming inertia. greetings thor, leavemealone!  how's asberg? |
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Post by anjian on Mar 8, 2018 5:05:31 GMT -5
I hate TDM with a passion. But I learned that sometimes, its better to just grit your teeth, and just focus on playing pass through it as best as you can. Sometimes the results surprises me.   |
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Post by fizbanrapper on Mar 8, 2018 6:49:35 GMT -5
I hate TDM with a passion. But I learned that sometimes, its better to just grit your teeth, and just focus on playing pass through it as best as you can. Sometimes the results surprises me. That's almost the perfect personality as defined by entities like pixonic as well as dictatorial governments. |
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Post by Bui Dui on Mar 8, 2018 7:17:31 GMT -5
I can't take it. Some of you well meaning folks should rethink this. I want to address this "don't ruin it for others" argument. Most of the time I agree, but not in this case. Only about 10% of uses said they actually enjoy TDM in the recent poll. So out of 12 players in a match, there's probably only one person who is really enjoying the mode... and he's the one who is running hydra builds. That's one of the biggest reasons that the mode is unplayable in the first place. Nix the campers and TDM could actually be a playable mode. So let me get this straight, 10-11 of us are supposed to make an honest effort in a mode we hate but are forced to play, just so we can be "fun" prey for the 1-2 camper dudes who actually enjoy this crap? I'm sorry, but that's not happening. Those of you who are on the crowd of not ruining it for others should really rethink just how many people are hating this too. Your participation with your brawling hangar loads the hydra spectre/fujin's pocket with silver. Silver he'll use to level up his hydra. Is that what you really want? Me not enjoying the game mode doesn't mean I don't want to win. So, if TDM makes me sad, TDM with players who ruin it makes me double sad. So when you leave a game, there are not only 1-2 campers you are ruining the game for, but also others like me that don't want to lose their rating and want to get at least some rewards for playing it. Pix made this game bad with random modes, but those like you make it unplayable. I think not joining battle at start if nobody else joins is something I might try in TDM matches, if that gives a draw. |
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Post by fizbanrapper on Mar 8, 2018 7:34:44 GMT -5
I can't take it. Some of you well meaning folks should rethink this. I want to address this "don't ruin it for others" argument. Most of the time I agree, but not in this case. Only about 10% of uses said they actually enjoy TDM in the recent poll. So out of 12 players in a match, there's probably only one person who is really enjoying the mode... and he's the one who is running hydra builds. That's one of the biggest reasons that the mode is unplayable in the first place. Nix the campers and TDM could actually be a playable mode. So let me get this straight, 10-11 of us are supposed to make an honest effort in a mode we hate but are forced to play, just so we can be "fun" prey for the 1-2 camper dudes who actually enjoy this crap? I'm sorry, but that's not happening. Those of you who are on the crowd of not ruining it for others should really rethink just how many people are hating this too. Your participation with your brawling hangar loads the hydra spectre/fujin's pocket with silver. Silver he'll use to level up his hydra. Is that what you really want? Me not enjoying the game mode doesn't mean I don't want to win. So, if TDM makes me sad, TDM with players who ruin it makes me double sad. So when you leave a game, there are not only 1-2 campers you are ruining the game for, but also others like me that don't want to lose their rating and want to get at least some rewards for playing it. Pix made this game bad with random modes, but those like you make it unplayable. I think not joining battle at start if nobody else joins is something I might try in TDM matches, if that gives a draw. I suppose there are 3 valid parties to criticize here, and yeah I guess I'm one of them. But in deciding who should be blamed, examining the chain of causation is useful. Pix forcing TDM into random mode > everyone starts camping > I don't participate I concede that I'm on that list, but I'm also last. Majority of people really hate this mode. Playing along with pix is what pix wants us to do (to sell more hangars). The more people "play along" in modes they hate, the more we embolden pix to screw us harder the next time around. And for that reason, it will actually be players like you that make the white game unplayable at some point. Many have already left because of it. |
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Post by Bui Dui on Mar 8, 2018 7:39:20 GMT -5
Oh that poll. There are less than Ten thousand members in this forum and roughly 3,000 daily guests. 136 people voted on that poll which roughly equates to 1% of the total population of members and guests combined. Sorry, but that poll is meaningless. Not if applied exponentially as all polls are. That's why it is called a poll. Didn't vote there as the poll didn't address the issue i have with TDM and my answer would turn out to be that I love that mode. I love different game modes, the more the better, but what I hate about it is that I'm being forced to play it when I don't want to. TDM was good for me as a warm-up game, also there have been days when i don't feel like i want to go after beacons, or testing some new builds. I liked it that i had a choice to play it when in right mood. The poll was a little meaningless, i second that, because, by my thoughts, the question/answers to check were not the right ones. Another poll asking how pilots feel about TDM in random (not TDM as a mode itself) might show even worse opinions for the current state of the game. When rating that game (mis)feature from 1-10 I'd rate it as high as the Mariana Trench. |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 8, 2018 7:39:51 GMT -5
At this point the more players that quit matches or the game altogether might be the only way to get PIXONIC to change their formula. Numbers matter in business.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Mar 8, 2018 8:15:02 GMT -5
At this point the more players that quit matches or the game altogether might be the only way to get PIXONIC to change their formula. Numbers matter in business. Unfortunately the only numbers Pix is concerned with are $$$ players are spending. Until something happens to directly impact revenue, and I honestly don't know what that's going to take at this point because the whales are obviously still dumping major coin, they're going to keep doing what they're doing. Civil disobedience, playing less, quitting altogether, it isn't going to make a difference as long as there be whales. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 8, 2018 13:26:58 GMT -5
If you don't like the mode, leave at the beginning of the match. This allows someone else who may like the mode to replace you and improve the game experience. There are people who like playing the game and this mode in particular. It's a D move to ruin other people's play experience. The other players didn't subject you to this game mode, Pix did. There are avenues for you to voice your dislike of the mode. Also, equating what you are proposing to civil disobedience is quite immature and does a disservice to people who use it as a way to enact change for IMPORTANT issues, not a video game mode. ^^^^ Wish there was a way to like a post more than once. Agreed... but I am not sure that even leaving at the beginning is safe as far as the LPQ is concerned... most say that even leaving while in the countdown you will end up there.... I am not sure, personally. BTW, haven't seen ya post in a while... welcome back? Or was I just missing all of your posts lol? |
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Post by r2d2 on Mar 8, 2018 14:26:52 GMT -5
Mods, start moderating! Why are threads like these even made to continue? This forum is suppose to represent War Robots, it’s game mechanics, how it’s played, good source of info for new players both old and new etc..etc..etc..and you allow this toxic behaviour to continue?
A player who runs all cossacks because he finds it fun knowing TDM and other modes are all packed into one and gets more TDM matches than any player in the whole world, comes here on the forum and threatens to start civil disobedience, is an idiot!!
Now I see why Pixonic shut their doors on this forum. No moderation.
Ban this guy, Close this thread, and let those who enjoy this game and this forum move forward!
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Post by fizbanrapper on Mar 8, 2018 15:02:05 GMT -5
Mods, start moderating! Why are threads like these even made to continue? This forum is suppose to represent War Robots, it’s game mechanics, how it’s played, good source of info for new players both old and new etc..etc..etc..and you allow this toxic behaviour to continue? A player who runs all cossacks because he finds it fun knowing TDM and other modes are all packed into one and gets more TDM matches than any player in the whole world, comes here on the forum and threatens to start civil disobedience, is an idiot!! Now I see why Pixonic shut their doors on this forum. No moderation. Ban this guy, Close this thread, and let those who enjoy this game and this forum move forward! Only happy thoughts allowed. Ban the rest! |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 8, 2018 15:03:20 GMT -5
Mods, start moderating! Why are threads like these even made to continue? This forum is suppose to represent War Robots, it’s game mechanics, how it’s played, good source of info for new players both old and new etc..etc..etc..and you allow this toxic behaviour to continue? A player who runs all cossacks because he finds it fun knowing TDM and other modes are all packed into one and gets more TDM matches than any player in the whole world, comes here on the forum and threatens to start civil disobedience, is an idiot!! Now I see why Pixonic shut their doors on this forum. No moderation. Ban this guy, Close this thread, and let those who enjoy this game and this forum move forward! I'd rather see this discussion progress, thank you. The game itself has become toxic insofar as playability for a large portion of pilots. We discussed the boycott. We can discuss this as well since it has become a reality in the game already. Attempting to stop discussion will not put an end to activities attempting to disrupt PIXONIC's despicable tactics. If you're going to complain you should be complaining to the source of this intolerable mess. PIXONIC. |
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Post by Destroyer on Mar 8, 2018 16:10:21 GMT -5
Mods, start moderating! Why are threads like these even made to continue? This forum is suppose to represent War Robots, it’s game mechanics, how it’s played, good source of info for new players both old and new etc..etc..etc..and you allow this toxic behaviour to continue? A player who runs all cossacks because he finds it fun knowing TDM and other modes are all packed into one and gets more TDM matches than any player in the whole world, comes here on the forum and threatens to start civil disobedience, is an idiot!! Now I see why Pixonic shut their doors on this forum. No moderation. Ban this guy, Close this thread, and let those who enjoy this game and this forum move forward! Only happy thoughts allowed. Ban the rest! We are still playing War Robots right? Not Hunger Games |
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Post by Roninsedge on Mar 8, 2018 17:27:31 GMT -5
Whenever I am in TDM, I wait to see if anyone drop a bot on my team, if no one drop a bot, the game ends in 10 seconds I've been wondering why people drop so late on TDM. It never occurred to me they are hoping nobody drops. This info needs to be stickied and spread to reddit, FB, everywhere. I hate to think that all this time I've been the reason we played TDM   I will drop late to make sure that I'm not alone at a spawn point at the beginning of the game. Attacking as a mob helps a lot in TDM and being by yourself at the beginning paints a target on you for the Reds. The key for me in TDM is to find the stray and take him out, it is even easier with a few others having your back. |
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Post by T34 on Mar 8, 2018 17:42:41 GMT -5
Mods, start moderating! Why are threads like these even made to continue? This forum is suppose to represent War Robots, it’s game mechanics, how it’s played, good source of info for new players both old and new etc..etc..etc..and you allow this toxic behaviour to continue? A player who runs all cossacks because he finds it fun knowing TDM and other modes are all packed into one and gets more TDM matches than any player in the whole world, comes here on the forum and threatens to start civil disobedience, is an idiot!! Now I see why Pixonic shut their doors on this forum. No moderation. Ban this guy, Close this thread, and let those who enjoy this game and this forum move forward! Should the forum also ban people complaining about tankers an seal clubbers? That is toxic as well. Or are you trying to sensor dialogue that you consider toxic?
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 8, 2018 18:17:13 GMT -5
Mods, start moderating! Why are threads like these even made to continue? This forum is suppose to represent War Robots, it’s game mechanics, how it’s played, good source of info for new players both old and new etc..etc..etc..and you allow this toxic behaviour to continue? A player who runs all cossacks because he finds it fun knowing TDM and other modes are all packed into one and gets more TDM matches than any player in the whole world, comes here on the forum and threatens to start civil disobedience, is an idiot!! Now I see why Pixonic shut their doors on this forum. No moderation. Ban this guy, Close this thread, and let those who enjoy this game and this forum move forward! Should the forum also ban people complaining about tankers an seal clubbers? That is toxic as well. Or are you trying to sensor dialogue that you consider toxic?
Yes, it appears that r2d2 thinks that this forum should back PIXONIC's plays to the hilt and censure dissent and player dissatisfaction to reflect that. I don't think he understands the concept of a forum or what the definition of the word is. I'm starting to wonder if he isn't a PIXONIC plant attempting to stop our assaults on the game. I certainly hope that the free flow of ideas and discussion on how to deal with PIXONIC's admitted duplicity continues to be accepted and possibly expanded by these forums in the future instead of sucking up to a game company that has openly admitted that player enjoyment is not their primary concern. |
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Post by r2d2 on Mar 8, 2018 20:24:23 GMT -5
Should the forum also ban people complaining about tankers an seal clubbers? That is toxic as well. Or are you trying to sensor dialogue that you consider toxic?
Yes, it appears that r2d2 thinks that this forum should back PIXONIC's plays to the hilt and censure dissent and player dissatisfaction to reflect that. I don't think he understands the concept of a forum or what the definition of the word is. I'm starting to wonder if he isn't a PIXONIC plant attempting to stop our assaults on the game. I certainly hope that the free flow of ideas and discussion on how to deal with PIXONIC's admitted duplicity continues to be accepted and possibly expanded by these forums in the future instead of sucking up to a game company that has openly admitted that player enjoyment is not their primary concern. Thor, you are very wrong, and everyone else here who thinks otherwise. I will not go into detail of what Strayed (administrator of this forum) and I discussed, you can read it on one of the threads if you payed close enough attention, regarding a more pressing issue than this petty nonsense although it could somewhat affect the overall performance of this forum if left unchecked. |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 8, 2018 21:05:45 GMT -5
r2d2This forum is already paying a price. Look around. There are nearly as many posts that reflect the players dissent with PIXONIC's actions as there are those that aren't. And it has been steadily growing over the last few months. And we lose members as they uninstall the game for good. Where else do we have the opportunity to organize some kind of response to PIXONIC's bull「dookie」? They will not respond to correspondence, refuse to even acknowledge it in fact. They ignore comments in their media outlets. The players make or break games. Not developers. They can't force us to like their games. PIXONIC has taken a lot of players' money so that players can buy items and enhance them. And now they have made many disinteresting and unwanted changes that effectively hold these items hostage. We are forced to endure game modes we do not like or enjoy just to be capable of using these items in game modes we do like or face a punishment of reward deprivation and long matchmaking periods. This wasn't in the original game that many of us started playing. And it deprives us of the ability to enjoy what we have paid for. That's not fair. Why shouldn't we organize to deprive PIXONIC of what they want? We force them to listen to us or kill the game. That's fair. That what the title of this thread states more or less.
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Post by T34 on Mar 8, 2018 22:56:08 GMT -5
Yes, it appears that r2d2 thinks that this forum should back PIXONIC's plays to the hilt and censure dissent and player dissatisfaction to reflect that. I don't think he understands the concept of a forum or what the definition of the word is. I'm starting to wonder if he isn't a PIXONIC plant attempting to stop our assaults on the game. I certainly hope that the free flow of ideas and discussion on how to deal with PIXONIC's admitted duplicity continues to be accepted and possibly expanded by these forums in the future instead of sucking up to a game company that has openly admitted that player enjoyment is not their primary concern. Thor, you are very wrong, and everyone else here who thinks otherwise. I will not go into detail of what Strayed (administrator of this forum) and I discussed, you can read it on one of the threads if you payed close enough attention, regarding a more pressing issue than this petty nonsense although it could somewhat affect the overall performance of this forum if left unchecked. Please link your discussion with strayed instead of each forumite who is following this thread needing to search for it in order to appreciate your statement (don't think they will). Otherwise it is just unsubstantiated whispers without context and relevance.
By the way, I think the discussion here is now of secondary importance. The snow ball has started rolling down the hill as soon as Pix bundled TDM into RM. The snow ball is rather big now. What OP is trying to do is to throw a bit more snow at it to make it bigger and thereby forcing an earlier change.
In any case you still haven’t provided an argument for calling this behaviour toxic. To date in this thread you incorrectly tried to dismiss the relevance of the poll, proceeded to calling this thread toxic, asked for the thread to be moderate/locked and called the OP an idiot. Tell us what reasoning lead you to making those remarks. I’ve stated in the post about 22 hours ago why I just don’t get the logic used by people to condemn OP’s position. Refute it. tell us what ya got. Change peoples opinion by using reason ?  Forums are a great place for doing that ?
PS: really curious and would love to hear your reasoning.
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Post by r2d2 on Mar 9, 2018 6:05:33 GMT -5
Thor, you are very wrong, and everyone else here who thinks otherwise. I will not go into detail of what Strayed (administrator of this forum) and I discussed, you can read it on one of the threads if you payed close enough attention, regarding a more pressing issue than this petty nonsense although it could somewhat affect the overall performance of this forum if left unchecked. Please link your discussion with strayed instead of each forumite who is following this thread needing to search for it in order to appreciate your statement (don't think they will). Otherwise it is just unsubstantiated whispers without context and relevance.
By the way, I think the discussion here is now of secondary importance. The snow ball has started rolling down the hill as soon as Pix bundled TDM into RM. The snow ball is rather big now. What OP is trying to do is to throw a bit more snow at it to make it bigger and thereby forcing an earlier change.
In any case you still haven’t provided an argument for calling this behaviour toxic. To date in this thread you incorrectly tried to dismiss the relevance of the poll, proceeded to calling this thread toxic, asked for the thread to be moderate/locked and called the OP an idiot. Tell us what reasoning lead you to making those remarks. I’ve stated in the post about 22 hours ago why I just don’t get the logic used by people to condemn OP’s position. Refute it. tell us what ya got. Change peoples opinion by using reason ? Forums are a great place for doing that ?
PS: really curious and would love to hear your reasoning.
Ruins the game for his teammates, giving advantage to the opponents and has the audacity to say sorry? That he didn’t sign up for this crap? Who did anyway? Did what must be done? And comes here telling us that we should join him in his endeavor to destroy a certain mode just because he doesn’t like it?...jeeezuz! Sorry man, but I too hate big maps, TDM, Dom, MM, tankers, clubbers and mk-IIs but I sure ain’t gonna start treatening civil unrest, hop on the bandwagon, walk main avenue with pitchforks until someone does something to appease the entitled few. We deal with it, We suck it up, We grew a pair and so should the some of you... If Strayed disliked this thread(though I wish something with a more firmer gesture) then, that’s good enough for me. Have a nice day folks. |
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how's asberg?
"Kill'em all."
Forums are a great place for doing that ?