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Post by T34 on Mar 9, 2018 7:23:57 GMT -5
Just had 6 in a row. Yes 6. Screw that (profanity directed at pixonic). To make things worse I was in squad so couldn't bail. Campers everywhere. Spent an hour playing that 「dookie」. People left the squad bc they had it and took a break. And after the 6th I put it down to take a break too. This is a crap mode. And no there is no way on earth we have to put up with this crap so Pix can sell more hangers and stuff to go into it. When 85% don't like it than it's crap and civil disobedience is warranted and justified. We don't have to put up with it just because that's how Pix wants it. Not good enough.... sorry.
Rant over.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 9, 2018 7:57:43 GMT -5
Please link your discussion with strayed instead of each forumite who is following this thread needing to search for it in order to appreciate your statement (don't think they will). Otherwise it is just unsubstantiated whispers without context and relevance.
By the way, I think the discussion here is now of secondary importance. The snow ball has started rolling down the hill as soon as Pix bundled TDM into RM. The snow ball is rather big now. What OP is trying to do is to throw a bit more snow at it to make it bigger and thereby forcing an earlier change.
In any case you still haven’t provided an argument for calling this behaviour toxic. To date in this thread you incorrectly tried to dismiss the relevance of the poll, proceeded to calling this thread toxic, asked for the thread to be moderate/locked and called the OP an idiot. Tell us what reasoning lead you to making those remarks. I’ve stated in the post about 22 hours ago why I just don’t get the logic used by people to condemn OP’s position. Refute it. tell us what ya got. Change peoples opinion by using reason ? Forums are a great place for doing that ?
PS: really curious and would love to hear your reasoning.
Ruins the game for his teammates, giving advantage to the opponents and has the audacity to say sorry? That he didn’t sign up for this crap? Who did anyway? Did what must be done? And comes here telling us that we should join him in his endeavor to destroy a certain mode just because he doesn’t like it?...jeeezuz! Sorry man, but I too hate big maps, TDM, Dom, MM, tankers, clubbers and mk-IIs but I sure ain’t gonna start treatening civil unrest, hop on the bandwagon, walk main avenue with pitchforks until someone does something to appease the entitled few. We deal with it, We suck it up, We grew a pair and so should the some of you... If Strayed disliked this thread(though I wish something with a more firmer gesture) then, that’s good enough for me. Have a nice day folks. The game is ruined already, and for a majority as the evidence provided by that poll you dismiss shows. You can dismiss it all you like but that is exactly how every fair poll ever made has worked since they were invented. You want players to abandon their sometimes substantial monetary investments and personal enjoyment for your own. We want to get the attention of a gaming company that is deliberately ignoring us. Going back to that poll you want to dismiss why should a majority of players bow to the minority? You provide no substatial alternative to address player concerns with the developers and you cannot. You want to use a dictatorial stance to block user enjoyment of their paid for items. Which seat at the PIXONIC board of directors do you occupy exactly?
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Post by r2d2 on Mar 9, 2018 8:56:13 GMT -5
Ruins the game for his teammates, giving advantage to the opponents and has the audacity to say sorry? That he didn’t sign up for this crap? Who did anyway? Did what must be done? And comes here telling us that we should join him in his endeavor to destroy a certain mode just because he doesn’t like it?...jeeezuz! Sorry man, but I too hate big maps, TDM, Dom, MM, tankers, clubbers and mk-IIs but I sure ain’t gonna start treatening civil unrest, hop on the bandwagon, walk main avenue with pitchforks until someone does something to appease the entitled few. We deal with it, We suck it up, We grew a pair and so should the some of you... If Strayed disliked this thread(though I wish something with a more firmer gesture) then, that’s good enough for me. Have a nice day folks. The game is ruined already, and for a majority as the evidence provided by that poll you dismiss shows. You can dismiss it all you like but that is exactly how every fair poll ever made has worked since they were invented. You want players to abandon their sometimes substantial monetary investments and personal enjoyment for your own. We want to get the attention of a gaming company that is deliberately ignoring us. Going back to that poll you want to dismiss why should a majority of players bow to the minority? You provide no substatial alternative to address player concerns with the developers and you cannot. You want to use a dictatorial stance to block user enjoyment of their paid for items. Which seat at the PIXONIC board of directors do you occupy exactly? No, I cannot provide substatial alternative to address player’s concern because I think that everyone here in the forum are intelligent enough to understand that there are diplomatic ways to do so. Adding further negativity doesn’t help towards that goal(including mine though that was geared towards the OP not the forum). We should all be working together instead....not this civil rights movement shinanigan. Inevitably, a game would be in “ruins” no matter the reason valid or not, it’s just a question of time. There’s nothing we can do about it. Games come and go. Neither you nor I or anybody else can stop it. When it does, remember this, we fought hard slugging it out on the battlefield, enjoying each moment killing x robots, x damage, x captured beacons, climbing the ladder. Others on the other hand, will have fought hard too, complaining on the forums trying to get what they want, getting frustrated, not enjoying the moment, too busy pondering on the thought they’re feeling ignored. When I look back, I can say...man, those were good times! Good ol’ days... For some...well...
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Post by T34 on Mar 9, 2018 17:26:47 GMT -5
The game is ruined already, and for a majority as the evidence provided by that poll you dismiss shows. You can dismiss it all you like but that is exactly how every fair poll ever made has worked since they were invented. You want players to abandon their sometimes substantial monetary investments and personal enjoyment for your own. We want to get the attention of a gaming company that is deliberately ignoring us. Going back to that poll you want to dismiss why should a majority of players bow to the minority? You provide no substatial alternative to address player concerns with the developers and you cannot. You want to use a dictatorial stance to block user enjoyment of their paid for items. Which seat at the PIXONIC board of directors do you occupy exactly? No, I cannot provide substatial alternative to address player’s concern because I think that everyone here in the forum are intelligent enough to understand that there are diplomatic ways to do so. Adding further negativity doesn’t help towards that goal(including mine though that was geared towards the OP not the forum). We should all be working together instead....not this civil rights movement shinanigan. Inevitably, a game would be in “ruins” no matter the reason valid or not, it’s just a question of time. There’s nothing we can do about it. Games come and go. Neither you nor I or anybody else can stop it. When it does, remember this, we fought hard slugging it out on the battlefield, enjoying each moment killing x robots, x damage, x captured beacons, climbing the ladder. Others on the other hand, will have fought hard too, complaining on the forums trying to get what they want, getting frustrated, not enjoying the moment, too busy pondering on the thought they’re feeling ignored. When I look back, I can say...man, those were good times! Good ol’ days... For some...well... If games come and go what is your point? by the way. Are you on IOS?
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Post by pilotgalaxyclass on Mar 12, 2018 17:43:34 GMT -5
Just restarted war robots a couple months ago. Was playing in mid 2017 and loved it. Still love it but never did like TDM, and now I'm forced to play it in random. So just started dropping out 3, 4, 5 times in a row? What's going on? The next match I played the mast few minutes, our side one but, weird, no one was rewarded anything. Mssgd pix and Then got this.
Hi! I've just checked your account in our database and I can see that you’ve been placed into the low priority queue. Let us explain what this queue is.
There are five differences between the low priority queue and the general one. 1. In the low priority queue Pilots are matched regardless of their league, so players from any league can be put on the same team or matched against each other. 2. Because there are not a lot of «leavers» placed in the low priority queue, they may wait longer to join a battle. 3. Teams in the low priority queue matches may be uneven and you can fight both 6 vs 6 and 1 vs 3. Leavers leave battles. 4. In the low priority queue players receive no Gold, Black Market keys, Silver as well as they stop receiving or losing rating points. 5. There's no possibility to choose the battle mode. There's only a Random Mode available.
Why did we separate the queues? The low priority matching queue was introduced in order to protect the players who fight for the victory from those who systematically choose not to take action in battles or leave them. Each vacant place on the team lowers its chance of winning, so each leaver puts their team at a disadvantage and lets down their teammates. We do not encourage such an unsportsmanlike behavior. Also note that regular game mode doesn’t imply skipping maps. War Robots is a competitive game and it’s best played when you are able to squeeze the most out of all battlegrounds where you might be deployed, so skipping a map is also considered as leaving.
The number of matches players spend in the separate matching queue is defined by the number of matches they decided to withdraw from. So in order to return to the general matching queue you just need to play your matches from the beginning to the end. It is not necessary to win battles or hit top positions in the battle result lists, just do not leave battles. The more fair matches you play, the sooner you will return to the general queue and will be matched according to your league.
Let us know if you have any other questions about the game.
So the system does Punish if you play " unsportsmanlike"
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Mar 26, 2018 8:36:50 GMT -5
Beacon capper here.. Sometimes I run a full Cossack/Shield hanger. My choice.. it's fun. But TDM is a challenge... In the last 290 games (yes the nerd keeps track) I've been forced to play TDM 95 times. - BTW, yes, I have tried KOTH - in my other account - I shot from Diamond to Champion league, but there are no players there (confirmed by Pixonic) so it's a 45 min wait time. So I cannot play KOTH (see thread) unless...
- I play the "tanking yo-yo game", lose to drop down, move back up, repeat. Or else..
- Play "random"
So I went back to "random". At first I obediently sat through the TDM's, reading a book or whatever, occasionally jumping in to save a game when blue is all dead, or shielding/drawing reds away from an outnumbered blue. But really it's pointless and I started getting tired of it. About 150 games was the last straw, I hit a stretch of 11 of 15 TDM games. Enough is enough! So now when I play TDM... my objective is to ruin it.
I wait until the blue team is dead, then start dropping my little Cossacks, not easy to kill. A "win" is iff I can make it to the end; my record is six minutes. But I don't just make the Reds chase me. I harass them, climb things, stand out of range doing 360's, etc. Or if I'm pressed for time, I'll just eject four and quickly kill the fifth. Blue starts the game 0-5. Hey that's a free win for five people but only a loss for four.. net effect is I'm helping one player. But man, I must really piss some of you guys off! Civil Disobedience. There's a reason for it. I don't agree, I didn't sign up for this, and I'm not going to play along. If enough people complain, maybe Pixonic will do something about it. IF YOU ALSO HATE TDM... you could also RESIST. Drop in when it's just an MK12 Lancelot tanker left, then practice jumps and spins and new routes while running your Cossack across Yamamoto with him futilely in tow. Draw him waay back.. chase you under the helipad, then spawn back at your home and sit and enjoy the view while he marches for a few minutes. You won! Seriously, if more people would deliberately mess with the game, maybe the complaints will send the message to Pixonic. If they care. And I truly am sympathetic to those who love TDM and to the innocent bystanders who are subjected to my play. I get that you may hate what I'm doing, and that you may feel that players like me are ruining the game. I agree with you! That's why I'm doing it. Tell Pixonic you want to play serious TDM players only. LET US OUT. have you ever considered that your hangar setup is causing abnormally long streaks in a specific queue? Try changing your bots and weapons before screwing other people over
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Post by White1Golf on Mar 26, 2018 16:47:56 GMT -5
I did leave a match for the first time ever yesterday. It was my third game of TDM on Yamantau in row, and I decided to leave at the start figuring one leave wouldn't place me in LPQ. I was rewarded with a game of Domination on Valley after. If you play most games you will have to leave at least 15 IN A ROW to get put in LPQ. So leave freely, I do.
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Post by White1Golf on Mar 26, 2018 16:50:28 GMT -5
Oh that poll. There are less than Ten thousand members in this forum and roughly 3,000 daily guests. 136 people voted on that poll which roughly equates to 1% of the total population of members and guests combined. Sorry, but that poll is meaningless. Polls are based on samples, not complete population. That poll is not meaningless, except maybe to Pixonic. The fact that the game IS CURRENTLY DYING, doesn't even appear to faze them.
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Post by White1Golf on Mar 26, 2018 16:54:45 GMT -5
The game is ruined already, and for a majority as the evidence provided by that poll you dismiss shows. You can dismiss it all you like but that is exactly how every fair poll ever made has worked since they were invented. You want players to abandon their sometimes substantial monetary investments and personal enjoyment for your own. We want to get the attention of a gaming company that is deliberately ignoring us. Going back to that poll you want to dismiss why should a majority of players bow to the minority? You provide no substatial alternative to address player concerns with the developers and you cannot. You want to use a dictatorial stance to block user enjoyment of their paid for items. Which seat at the PIXONIC board of directors do you occupy exactly? No, I cannot provide substatial alternative to address player’s concern because I think that everyone here in the forum are intelligent enough to understand that there are diplomatic ways to do so. Adding further negativity doesn’t help towards that goal(including mine though that was geared towards the OP not the forum). We should all be working together instead....not this civil rights movement shinanigan. Inevitably, a game would be in “ruins” no matter the reason valid or not, it’s just a question of time. There’s nothing we can do about it. Games come and go. Neither you nor I or anybody else can stop it. When it does, remember this, we fought hard slugging it out on the battlefield, enjoying each moment killing x robots, x damage, x captured beacons, climbing the ladder. Others on the other hand, will have fought hard too, complaining on the forums trying to get what they want, getting frustrated, not enjoying the moment, too busy pondering on the thought they’re feeling ignored. When I look back, I can say...man, those were good times! Good ol’ days... For some...well... Games come and go? Starcraft has been around for 20 years, WoW has been around for 12. This game is one of the best I've ever played, until 3.0. War Robots development team is killing this game.
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Post by White1Golf on Mar 26, 2018 16:57:10 GMT -5
Just restarted war robots a couple months ago. Was playing in mid 2017 and loved it. Still love it but never did like TDM, and now I'm forced to play it in random. So just started dropping out 3, 4, 5 times in a row? What's going on? The next match I played the mast few minutes, our side one but, weird, no one was rewarded anything. Mssgd pix and Then got this. Hi! I've just checked your account in our database and I can see that you’ve been placed into the low priority queue. Let us explain what this queue is. There are five differences between the low priority queue and the general one. 1. In the low priority queue Pilots are matched regardless of their league, so players from any league can be put on the same team or matched against each other. 2. Because there are not a lot of «leavers» placed in the low priority queue, they may wait longer to join a battle. 3. Teams in the low priority queue matches may be uneven and you can fight both 6 vs 6 and 1 vs 3. Leavers leave battles. 4. In the low priority queue players receive no Gold, Black Market keys, Silver as well as they stop receiving or losing rating points. 5. There's no possibility to choose the battle mode. There's only a Random Mode available. Why did we separate the queues? The low priority matching queue was introduced in order to protect the players who fight for the victory from those who systematically choose not to take action in battles or leave them. Each vacant place on the team lowers its chance of winning, so each leaver puts their team at a disadvantage and lets down their teammates. We do not encourage such an unsportsmanlike behavior. Also note that regular game mode doesn’t imply skipping maps. War Robots is a competitive game and it’s best played when you are able to squeeze the most out of all battlegrounds where you might be deployed, so skipping a map is also considered as leaving. The number of matches players spend in the separate matching queue is defined by the number of matches they decided to withdraw from. So in order to return to the general matching queue you just need to play your matches from the beginning to the end. It is not necessary to win battles or hit top positions in the battle result lists, just do not leave battles. The more fair matches you play, the sooner you will return to the general queue and will be matched according to your league. Let us know if you have any other questions about the game. So the system does Punish if you play " unsportsmanlike" Unsportsmanlike system punishes "unsportsmanlike" players. The hypocrisy!
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Post by T34 on Mar 26, 2018 17:22:45 GMT -5
So the system does Punish if you play " unsportsmanlike" Unsportsmanlike system punishes "unsportsmanlike" players. The hypocrisy! I also loved their publication where it said something to the effect of “leaving early is dishonourable”. Hypocrisy was the first thought that came to my mind when reading the word “dishonourable”. How many deliberate lies Pix put out and how many dishonourable thing they did is staggering. Its like the kettle calling the pot black. But on topic with the necro post (one of the better necros) I really do not see any other way to force Pix’s hand but by civil disobedience. Their current “collecting data” initiative is a delay tactic in a hope that people put up with it and naturally for pouring some water on the fire. Their new game modes and new bots (eg, strider) do not make sense unless players are forced to play all modes and carry appropriately multi hangers for the distinctly different game modes. If people put up with this then it will be inevitable that TDM will be in random as well as KOTH. That means we will get BR and DOM only 50% of the time! The time to act is now!
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Post by Gdu4ever on Mar 29, 2018 3:20:51 GMT -5
Unsportsmanlike system punishes "unsportsmanlike" players. The hypocrisy! I also loved their publication where it said something to the effect of “leaving early is dishonourable”. Hypocrisy was the first thought that came to my mind when reading the word “dishonourable”. How many deliberate lies Pix put out and how many dishonourable thing they did is staggering. Its like the kettle calling the pot black. But on topic with the necro post (one of the better necros) I really do not see any other way to force Pix’s hand but by civil disobedience. Their current “collecting data” initiative is a delay tactic in a hope that people put up with it and naturally for pouring some water on the fire. Their new game modes and new bots (eg, strider) do not make sense unless players are forced to play all modes and carry appropriately multi hangers for the distinctly different game modes. If people put up with this then it will be inevitable that TDM will be in random as well as KOTH. That means we will get BR and DOM only 50% of the time! The time to act is now! From the moment TDM hit random, I know I had to deliver my strongest opposition as an individual: uninstall. Sadly not too many people smelled the seriousness then. It is already late to act now, but (may be) not too late. Free for all is on TS already. If players fail to push the random mode back soon enough, expect to see 4-in-1 random+Free for all single queued. By then everything will be too late.
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Post by hyderier on Apr 5, 2018 11:31:19 GMT -5
I think I have to give up my Lancelot because of TDM. It is too slow, I just can't get to the enemy fast enough, so meching out takes ages on some maps.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 11:39:38 GMT -5
please don't ruin my favourite mode, I love TDM. I hate KOTH , but I don't flat out ruin it for ppl who do. I really don't think asking people to join you in ruining it is cool either :-(
I get that it sucks to be forced to play it , but Pix could give a flying banana if you jump around with ecu cossacks. They don't listen to any other complaining (tanking report form anyone?).
So my main reaction is that it won't work and ruins the game mode for people like me. I don't run Hydras btw nor camp.
Doing what you're doing will ruin one game at a time, but asking people to copy you will ruin games you aren't even involved in.
I think it's more viable to mech out quickly if you dont like the mode or just quit immediately.
Again, I totally get your anger, but directing it at fellow players is pretty sucky.
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Apr 14, 2018 13:45:45 GMT -5
please don't ruin my favourite mode, I love TDM. I hate KOTH , but I don't flat out ruin it for ppl who do. I really don't think asking people to join you in ruining it is cool either :-( I get that it sucks to be forced to play it , but Pix could give a flying banana if you jump around with ecu cossacks. They don't listen to any other complaining (tanking report form anyone?). So my main reaction is that it won't work and ruins the game mode for people like me. I don't run Hydras btw nor camp. Doing what you're doing will ruin one game at a time, but asking people to copy you will ruin games you aren't even involved in. I think it's more viable to mech out quickly if you dont like the mode or just quit immediately. Again, I totally get your anger, but directing it at fellow players is pretty sucky. I gave @withnailer 's post a thumbs up because they care. No, I don't like TDM. No, I don't like KoH. I like FFA even less. I know I'll never stand a chance in that mode. But I'm not going to ruin those modes for the people that do enjoy them. Sometimes in TDM, I'll kamikaze my bots to get it over with. Most times, I'll play my best to win. The same goes with KoH. Sometimes I'll run my bot's little legs off, trying to cap and hold beacons. Other times, meh! Let the reds have the bleeding beacon. Let's get this over with, and wake me when it's over. I just hope TDM and KoH fans don't take what HEATHEN HERETIC and T34 are saying to heart, and try to muck it up for Domination and Beacon Rush players. I share the rage they feel at having to fight the the piss poor MM and the supposedly Random Mode. I deplore the whales, tankers, clubbers, and Pissoffic's apathy for player's concerns. But let's not ruin individual modes for those that enjoy them. Turn your frustrations to Pissoffic. If they don't listen (and from what I've read, they don't give two ?poo-poo?s), we need to move on. BoT may not be the savior that we're praying for, but perhaps an exodus to other games will wake Pissoffic out of their stupor. Not likely, but remotely possible.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Apr 14, 2018 14:20:59 GMT -5
.... I just hope TDM and KoH fans don't take what HEATHEN HERETIC and T34 are saying to heart, and try to muck it up for Domination and Beacon Rush players. I share the rage they feel at having to fight the the piss poor MM and the supposedly Random Mode. I deplore the whales, tankers, clubbers, and Pissoffic's apathy for player's concerns. But let's not ruin individual modes for those that enjoy them. Turn your frustrations to Pissoffic. If they don't listen (and from what I've read, they don't give two ?poo-poo?s), we need to move on. BoT may not be the savior that we're praying for, but hopefully an exodus to other games may wake Pissoffic out of their stupor. They don't have to. The BIFFs do that for us. I don't mind if players dump the game modes they do not like or enjoy as long as they do so as soon as they see what the mode is and before the match starts. If they drop out right then they are replaced by another player. That's what I do. So I don't understand why PIXONIC thinks that they can make players like that 「dookie」 by punishing players for not enjoying it. I certainly don't want to ruin other players' matches. I don't think any decent player does. But by the same token I sure as hell do not want to be forced to endure what are, imo, 「dookie」ty modes. So I do my best to leave before the match starts to make room for some other players.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Apr 14, 2018 14:22:44 GMT -5
.... I just hope TDM and KoH fans don't take what HEATHEN HERETIC and T34 are saying to heart, and try to muck it up for Domination and Beacon Rush players. I share the rage they feel at having to fight the the piss poor MM and the supposedly Random Mode. I deplore the whales, tankers, clubbers, and Pissoffic's apathy for player's concerns. But let's not ruin individual modes for those that enjoy them. Turn your frustrations to Pissoffic. If they don't listen (and from what I've read, they don't give two ?poo-poo?s), we need to move on. BoT may not be the savior that we're praying for, but hopefully an exodus to other games may wake Pissoffic out of their stupor. They don't have to. The BIFFs do that for us. I don't mind if players dump the game modes that they do not like or enjoy as long as they do so as soon as they see what the mode is and before the match starts. If they drop out right then they are replaced by another player. That's what I do. So I don't understand why PIXONIC thinks that they can make players like that 「dookie」 by punishing players for not enjoying it. I certainly don't want to ruin other players' matches. I don't think any decent player does. But by the same token I sure as hell do not want to be forced to endure what are, imo, 「dookie」ty modes. So I do my best to leave before the match starts to make room for some other players.
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