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Post by Russel on Dec 19, 2017 9:48:34 GMT -5
It's been over a year now with these "leagues" & the matchmaking algorithm in place. Over a year of constant complaints about its horrible matching qualities and the easy access to tanking one's rank in those stupid "leagues". I've spent my time and then some in Pixonic's punishment queue for dropping out of the horrendously lopsided matches of 6v2, 1v5, etc. I've reported hundreds of obvious tankers without it making a shred of difference as I consistently saw the very same tankers moving up and down those "leagues" without penalty day after day week after week. A year is far too long for it not to be a deliberate course of action on Pixonic's part. Any gaming company that actually gave a sh*t would have quickly found a better matching formula and ranking system if they actually wanted one. Pixonic does not. They like it just the way it is. They like the rank tanking. They like the clubbing. They're aiming directly at the noobs wallets and could care less about the older game players and their ideas on fair gameplay. These damn events promote the worst kinds of playing behaviours. Yet how many have we had now? It actually appears that it will just get worse. Every month is going to be an event month. There is not going to be anymore matches where winning is the main objective anymore. It's going to be all about the damn tasks and obtaining equipment. And for what? More damn tasks? More damn equipment? A never ending cycle of grinding for equipment that in essence has become meaningless since winning is no longer the main objective of a match. I think I've figured out what the dash bots are actually for now, especially the Kumihos. Beacon tasks. Haechis for kill tasks. Hovers to help fulfill those kill tasks like a tethered turkey. Wins? Well now that's going to mostly just be happenstance. I no longer report obvious tankers. It's pointless. I'm so sick of being cr*pped on by Pixonics allowing this to continue. I'm watching players self destruct at spawn and then run after a single beacon and then get themselves destroyed. I'm watching players self destruct at spawn and then attempt to go for a single kill before they get destroyed. All to save time on those damn tasks. I've even been the sole player left after the rest of my "team" was wiped out after all dropped just a single bot from their one bot second hanger. For those claiming it's the players and not Pixonic...you are quite simply the stupidest people to walk this earth. 「fluffernutter」tard is too good a descriptive. You don't even rate being that stupid. A full year. Do you sh*theads get that?? A full 「fluffernutter」ing year and no fix whatsoever for this stupid sh*t. And it's only getting worse. And you t*rds want to defend the company that has made it all possible? The company that has done not a damn thing to alleviate the tanking, the clubbing, the horrible playing behaviour? The company that actually encourages and endorses bad playing behaviour with their endorsements of stupid challenges and their own insane event tasks. How godsdamn stupid are you people? Wait, please don't answer that. I'm actually afraid I'll find out.
This cr*p with Pixonic has gone on so long now that now even I no longer give a sh*t about winning anymore. I've just stopped trying to win or play with any skill anymore. I just run and gun to get it over with most of the time. I stopped looking at the battle reports. I just don't care whether my "team" wins or not or how well I might have done. It's just pointless. It's all about the tasks. Beacon tasks? I'll run my fastest bots at the beacons until I run out. Rinse and repeat. Kill tasks? Load up with my best equipment and rush in to slug it out. Rinse and repeat. Wins? It'll happen eventually. If it looks like my "team" might have a numerical advantage, push hard. If not just run in and get killed quick to move on to the next match and hope for better "teammates". Rinse and repeat. This is the reality that the game has become for me. I'm only hanging on because there is no other mech game quite like War Robots at this time in app form. I'm holding out hope for Battle of Titans if it ever makes it to Android. But until then War Robots is my mech fix. But I do not have to be thrilled with the way Pixonic has destroyed the game's playability. Or the way they've turned the game away from strategy and tactics on the field of battle to sh*tty strategy and tactics in obtaining equipment in events and rewards in the game by clubbing the hell out of noobs. But make no mistake, every single 「fluffernutter」ing bit of the problems that are in the game originates at one single source and one only. Pixonic. And if you're just to damn stupid to figure that out I hope you suffocate before you remember how to breathe. Here I fixed it. Now I agree completely :-D Except for I am grateful to Pix. I don't play many games (usually it's 1, at most 2) and previous one was RealRacing3, it went very same path downwards. Monthly events, new stuff $600 worth, grind, grind, grind, money, money, money. I reached Elite ranking, got all the cars, tracks, upgrades, etc, and noticed it was not fun anymore. I was either grindging for new stuff, or taking a break between events. Not a single time I played stuff I won previous month. I only played to get new car (or three). So, then I discovered War Robots and though "Ha, stupid EA, they spoiled the game, but Pix seems like cool company and they are doing everything right" Now I guess it's the fate of every game, so I won't be bothered by those anymore. And will bail from the gaming as a x-mas present for myself and my family :-D So, thanks Pix for curing gaming addiction. Too bad a lot of cool people were having futile hopes.
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Post by Russel on Dec 19, 2017 9:51:38 GMT -5
a broken matches an illusion you need to pay for advanced items in order to compete against other players. Both side are equally skilled and have same similar bots. the bottom line come down who's composition hangar is suited those situation and those precise moments you made those actions winning. anything out of that borderline frame is paid to win to advanced. If I get you correct - yes, once you get some new stuff you are forced to tougher competition. Then you are given some "relax" matches, where you can enjoy your power, and then again you are thrown down to the wolves. Sealclubbing is helping Pix a lot, because now players could not blame Pix. Hey, all players are from +\- same leagues, right? So do not blame Pix, blame players. IMO that's why they never gonna fix sealclubbing.
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Post by Domino on Dec 19, 2017 11:12:27 GMT -5
The problem with Pixonic is that they are monetizing the fixes as much as possible.
So here's how I see it working in a nutshell: PR guys at a meeting tell someone at Pixonic this: The players want different hangars because the way it sits, it's as clutter as 「dookie」, slow and antiquated.
CFO (insert whatever ahole title) person thinks: How can we make money on this problem? We can give them what we want and make the system better overall, but that doesn't put premium fuel in my Porsche, so let them buy multiple hangars and as incentive, they can choose those hangars after they see what level they are on. I'm sure Whales will love to have the upper hand.
Note: The some issues are not in the best interest of Pixonic however money is more interesting then fixes so prioritize based on value in their pockets. You have a limited amount of back-end programmers, so do you prioritize their time on fixing issues or making the company money?
MM was deemed an issue, the solution would upset the TT (wait times), the impact was bleeding into the Expert league (Expert vs Champion) the effect of this has some positive effect to income due to Experts will feel the need to spend money to compete. So they pushed it until 1 month ago, for whatever reason. Be it they have more people in Champion as to not impact TT too much or maybe Dash bots took some of the financial pressure they could remove this hindrance to Experts. We will never know.
Point I am making: I don't think players are justifying Pixonic actions but we need to think like a money hungry company to understand their decisions. When you do, you see the logic.
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Post by Russel on Dec 19, 2017 11:35:46 GMT -5
Point I am making: I don't think players are justifying Pixonic actions but we need to think like a money hungry company to understand their decisions. When you do, you see the logic. well that was always my point. And it is the reason I do NOT believe "game is dying" or "they will run out of players". Money-hungry company will care for one thing only: Money income should be increased each month. So if they ignore community voice it can mean only one thing - they are happy with the way things are. Which, in turn, means that more and more money flowing into Pix pocket. And the same thing can be seen in AppAnnie and SensorTower reports, as well as MailRu and Pix financial reports. So game remains pretty successful in terms of moneymaking, and we are just obsolete models, and need to go if we don't like the new rules. Which is, once again, IMO is the pretty reasonable solution. I do not want to fall prey to sunk costs fallacy here, and would advise to everyone who thinks that they invested too much time\money into game read the following: www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/how-the-sunk-cost-fallacy-makes-you-act-stupid.htmlor more game-related stuff: youarenotsosmart.com/2011/03/25/the-sunk-cost-fallacy/
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Post by Domino on Dec 19, 2017 11:46:28 GMT -5
Point I am making: I don't think players are justifying Pixonic actions but we need to think like a money hungry company to understand their decisions. When you do, you see the logic. well that was always my point. And it is the reason I do NOT believe "game is dying" or "they will run out of players". Money-hungry company will care for one thing only: Money income should be increased each month. So if they ignore community voice it can mean only one thing - they are happy with the way things are. Which, in turn, means that more and more money flowing into Pix pocket. And the same thing can be seen in AppAnnie and SensorTower reports, as well as MailRu and Pix financial reports. So game remains pretty successful in terms of moneymaking, and we are just obsolete models, and need to go if we don't like the new rules. Which is, once again, IMO is the pretty reasonable solution. I do not want to fall prey to sunk costs fallacy here, and would advise to everyone who thinks that they invested too much time\money into game read the following: www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/how-the-sunk-cost-fallacy-makes-you-act-stupid.htmlor more game-related stuff: youarenotsosmart.com/2011/03/25/the-sunk-cost-fallacy/Read the first article and I can't imagine how many people are doing this with War Robots. I'm in the middle of it, i'm 60% on my way to a super chest, I should be close to getting it but if I'm 99% there and there's 5 mins left, do I spend money on it because I "Invested" so much time to get a Super Chest (which could very well result in something terrible)? Yet most of us fall prey to this. Appreciate the links. P.S: If people think that Dash bots are worth it, you might be in for a rude awakening in 12 months when Dash bots are no better then a Cossack (maybe i'm exaggerating) but my point is, before you become to invested or attached, just know they War Robots might replace it at any moment with something better. If you care about that then maybe reconsider.
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Post by Russel on Dec 19, 2017 12:35:36 GMT -5
well that was always my point. And it is the reason I do NOT believe "game is dying" or "they will run out of players". Money-hungry company will care for one thing only: Money income should be increased each month. So if they ignore community voice it can mean only one thing - they are happy with the way things are. Which, in turn, means that more and more money flowing into Pix pocket. And the same thing can be seen in AppAnnie and SensorTower reports, as well as MailRu and Pix financial reports. So game remains pretty successful in terms of moneymaking, and we are just obsolete models, and need to go if we don't like the new rules. Which is, once again, IMO is the pretty reasonable solution. I do not want to fall prey to sunk costs fallacy here, and would advise to everyone who thinks that they invested too much time\money into game read the following: www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/how-the-sunk-cost-fallacy-makes-you-act-stupid.htmlor more game-related stuff: youarenotsosmart.com/2011/03/25/the-sunk-cost-fallacy/Read the first article and I can't imagine how many people are doing this with War Robots. I'm in the middle of it, i'm 60% on my way to a super chest, I should be close to getting it but if I'm 99% there and there's 5 mins left, do I spend money on it because I "Invested" so much time to get a Super Chest (which could very well result in something terrible)? Yet most of us fall prey to this. Appreciate the links. P.S: If people think that Dash bots are worth it, you might be in for a rude awakening in 12 months when Dash bots are no better then a Cossack (maybe i'm exaggerating) but my point is, before you become to invested or attached, just know they War Robots might replace it at any moment with something better. If you care about that then maybe reconsider. I liked the idea of introducing new content every 6 months or so, and then upon introducing new content making older one less powerful but cheaper. Now it is more like making everything else irrelevant every 4 months or so. In short - if the player can have "latest" bot he will succeed. But this bot should not be Dash, Knight, Exorcist, etc. Just "the latest". As soon as new one out - you should get that, and so on. This is basically "membership payment" in disguise. Every now and then you must pay and you are getting latest and best stuff all the time. Otherwise, you can grind all day long and participate in contests, and you will get new stuff for "free" (nevermind the time spent). What I don't like about such system - it kills the diversity of the game. There is no need to master alternative bots\weapons\setups. And with full hangar of latest bot you will dominate field. Too boring to my liking.
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Post by Domino on Dec 19, 2017 12:44:06 GMT -5
Read the first article and I can't imagine how many people are doing this with War Robots. I'm in the middle of it, i'm 60% on my way to a super chest, I should be close to getting it but if I'm 99% there and there's 5 mins left, do I spend money on it because I "Invested" so much time to get a Super Chest (which could very well result in something terrible)? Yet most of us fall prey to this. Appreciate the links. P.S: If people think that Dash bots are worth it, you might be in for a rude awakening in 12 months when Dash bots are no better then a Cossack (maybe i'm exaggerating) but my point is, before you become to invested or attached, just know they War Robots might replace it at any moment with something better. If you care about that then maybe reconsider. I liked the idea of introducing new content every 6 months or so, and then upon introducing new content making older one less powerful but cheaper. Now it is more like making everything else irrelevant every 4 months or so. In short - if the player can have "latest" bot he will succeed. But this bot should not be Dash, Knight, Exorcist, etc. Just "the latest". As soon as new one out - you should get that, and so on. This is basically "membership payment" in disguise. Every now and then you must pay and you are getting latest and best stuff all the time. Otherwise, you can grind all day long and participate in contests, and you will get new stuff for "free" (nevermind the time spent). What I don't like about such system - it kills the diversity of the game. There is no need to master alternative bots\weapons\setups. And with full hangar of latest bot you will dominate field. Too boring to my liking. But you can only do that a finite amount of times. I think we are in the wake of a flurry of new bots/weapons. Then there will be a resting period of 6-12 months. but you are 100%, it's a membership in disguise. Just wish they focused the income generation on diversity and player experience rather then re-invent the game to generate income.
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Post by TheWWRNerdGuy on Dec 19, 2017 14:23:06 GMT -5
For those claiming it's the players and not Pixonic...you are quite simply the stupidest people to walk this earth. 「fluffernutter」tard is too good a descriptive. You don't even rate being that stupid. A full year. Do you sh*theads get that?? A full 「fluffernutter」ing year and no fix whatsoever for this stupid sh*t. And it's only getting worse. And you t*rds want to defend the company that has made it all possible? The company that has done not a damn thing to alleviate the tanking, the clubbing, the horrible playing behaviour? The company that actually encourages and endorses bad playing behaviour with their endorsements of stupid challenges and their own insane event tasks. How godsdamn stupid are you people? Wait, please don't answer that. I'm actually afraid I'll find out. I'm so stupid that I can spell "「gosh darn 」" correctly. Also, how does making challenges endorse tanking? That's like saying encouraging charitability encourages people to kill others. There is no correlation. You probably want to defend a place that once allowed slavery, or not only encouraged, but necessitated racism/sexism/homophobia. Were any of the aforementioned subjects moral in those times, just because they were legal? Those problems lasted for millennia, even though it was so easy to change the law because humans can easily make decisions on what is right. It's much harder for computers to do that. You try to completely fix matchmaking with something that the devs can actually add to the game. You don't even need to write any code, just write some basic commands. There will always be an honest player who will complain about what you have done. I could easily say that that was because you hate the player base, only cared about yourself and that you only wanted to make money. However, I'm not going to, because I would actually know that you had good intentions that weren't perfect for everyone, because we all have different opinions and personalities.
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Post by Russel on Dec 19, 2017 18:01:06 GMT -5
I liked the idea of introducing new content every 6 months or so, and then upon introducing new content making older one less powerful but cheaper. Now it is more like making everything else irrelevant every 4 months or so. In short - if the player can have "latest" bot he will succeed. But this bot should not be Dash, Knight, Exorcist, etc. Just "the latest". As soon as new one out - you should get that, and so on. This is basically "membership payment" in disguise. Every now and then you must pay and you are getting latest and best stuff all the time. Otherwise, you can grind all day long and participate in contests, and you will get new stuff for "free" (nevermind the time spent). What I don't like about such system - it kills the diversity of the game. There is no need to master alternative bots\weapons\setups. And with full hangar of latest bot you will dominate field. Too boring to my liking. But you can only do that a finite amount of times. I think we are in the wake of a flurry of new bots/weapons. Then there will be a resting period of 6-12 months. but you are 100%, it's a membership in disguise. Just wish they focused the income generation on diversity and player experience rather then re-invent the game to generate income. Maybe so, but I guess they gone for a easier road. I suggested to Pix introducing some "advanced statistics" for a fee, like "match replay" or you stats like accuracy with every weapon, actual damage done, damage done to Ancile, to shield, to actual bot, when you hit several bots, how long each of your bots are alive at the battlefield, etc. Those could all have been introduced for a monthly subscription fee. Additional stuff like "bot rental", or "custom paintjobs" that are unlocked when you are on "paid subscription", and locked away when it ends. Another type of "advanced subscription" would allow you early access (say, month in advance) for new bots, like pre-release sale or so. Imagine that some clan (I don't know names) could've boast custom-painted (for example all-white or all-black) Exorcists squad right now, a month before official release? How could that would be? Other option could be introducing "advanced maps", ones where you can fall into lava, use stationary weapons, orbital nukes and such, also for paying customers, ability to change view to "in-cabin".... I am sorry, I got carried away a bit. But all in all I believe advanced gameplay would be WAY more interesting and positive than just milking players with new, OPPier and BESTEST stuff every now and then.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Dec 19, 2017 18:56:18 GMT -5
For those claiming it's the players and not Pixonic...you are quite simply the stupidest people to walk this earth. 「fluffernutter」tard is too good a descriptive. You don't even rate being that stupid. A full year. Do you sh*theads get that?? A full 「fluffernutter」ing year and no fix whatsoever for this stupid sh*t. And it's only getting worse. And you t*rds want to defend the company that has made it all possible? The company that has done not a damn thing to alleviate the tanking, the clubbing, the horrible playing behaviour? The company that actually encourages and endorses bad playing behaviour with their endorsements of stupid challenges and their own insane event tasks. How godsdamn stupid are you people? Wait, please don't answer that. I'm actually afraid I'll find out. I'm so stupid that I can spell "「gosh darn 」" correctly. Also, how does making challenges endorse tanking? That's like saying encouraging charitability encourages people to kill others. There is no correlation. You probably want to defend a place that once allowed slavery, or not only encouraged, but necessitated racism/sexism/homophobia. Were any of the aforementioned subjects moral in those times, just because they were legal? Those problems lasted for millennia, even though it was so easy to change the law because humans can easily make decisions on what is right. It's much harder for computers to do that. You try to completely fix matchmaking with something that the devs can actually add to the game. You don't even need to write any code, just write some basic commands. There will always be an honest player who will complain about what you have done. I could easily say that that was because you hate the player base, only cared about yourself and that you only wanted to make money. However, I'm not going to, because I would actually know that you had good intentions that weren't perfect for everyone, because we all have different opinions and personalities.*sigh* I told you not to answer. First, do you have a clue what the word heathen means? I spelled the word correctly by my lights. Second, how long have you been playing? Were you around for those stupid Crazy Build challenges? Have you ever been surrounded by a squad of ECU only bots on your "team", or some other similar sh*t, all for the sake of a stupid video challenge endorsed by Pixonic? If not then do not presume to know of that which I write. Third, we had a hanger based mm once before. It had some very fixable flaws which would have eliminated the clubbing, which was its biggest problem. So they never intended to fix the clubbing at all. They just repackaged it with a prescribed plan while claiming they fixed it. Are you a programmer? If not then hold your fingers off the keys please. Fourth, players have been strident in their protests about the mm and the tanking and clubbing for over a year now. Noone without deliberate intent would allow such a situation to go on for so long without addressing the situation. Pixonic has not done so, plain and simple. Their intent in keeping it in the game is crystal clear. They are not trying to hide it at all. None of what I wrote was meant to be humorous. I wrote exactly what I intended to from what can be observed. As a once professional troubleshooter that is what I do. I make assessments based on the evidence provided. And what I see is a company that cares less about player/customer enjoyment and more about revenue.
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Post by Domino on Dec 19, 2017 19:29:23 GMT -5
But you can only do that a finite amount of times. I think we are in the wake of a flurry of new bots/weapons. Then there will be a resting period of 6-12 months. but you are 100%, it's a membership in disguise. Just wish they focused the income generation on diversity and player experience rather then re-invent the game to generate income. Maybe so, but I guess they gone for a easier road. I suggested to Pix introducing some "advanced statistics" for a fee, like "match replay" or you stats like accuracy with every weapon, actual damage done, damage done to Ancile, to shield, to actual bot, when you hit several bots, how long each of your bots are alive at the battlefield, etc. Those could all have been introduced for a monthly subscription fee. Additional stuff like "bot rental", or "custom paintjobs" that are unlocked when you are on "paid subscription", and locked away when it ends. Another type of "advanced subscription" would allow you early access (say, month in advance) for new bots, like pre-release sale or so. Imagine that some clan (I don't know names) could've boast custom-painted (for example all-white or all-black) Exorcists squad right now, a month before official release? How could that would be? Other option could be introducing "advanced maps", ones where you can fall into lava, use stationary weapons, orbital nukes and such, also for paying customers, ability to change view to "in-cabin".... I am sorry, I got carried away a bit. But all in all I believe advanced gameplay would be WAY more interesting and positive than just milking players with new, OPPier and BESTEST stuff every now and then. All excellent ideas. At the end of the day, thier changing too much, too fast. It's like some key decision makers there are paid on commission. Damn the future of the game, give me the money now attitude.
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Post by T34 on Dec 19, 2017 20:11:57 GMT -5
......... will bail from the gaming as a x-mas present for myself and my family :-D So, thanks Pix for curing gaming addiction........ I think I said I will stay out of this thread but these lines really caught my eye.
I must say I am addicted to this game but for the wrong reasons and thus need to work to overcome the addiction and then evaluate how good this game really is (I think I am on the path and indeed Pix is reinforcing my journey in this respect). But once a game takes away time from family and friends there must be a problem. And if you haven't got a family and all your mates hang out in War Robots than it is the same problem.
Here we are discussing tanking while it is totally irrelevant to just about everything.
From Wiki: Addiction is a brain disorder characterized by compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli, despite adverse consequences.[8] Despite the involvement of a number of psychosocial factors, a biological process – one which is induced by repeated exposure to an addictive stimulus – is the core pathology that drives the development and maintenance of an addiction.[1][9] The two properties that characterize all addictive stimuli are that they are reinforcing (i.e., they increase the likelihood that a person will seek repeated exposure to them) and intrinsically rewarding (i.e., they are perceived as being inherently positive, desirable, and pleasurable).[
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Post by Russel on Dec 20, 2017 2:31:45 GMT -5
......... will bail from the gaming as a x-mas present for myself and my family :-D So, thanks Pix for curing gaming addiction........ I think I said I will stay out of this thread but these lines really caught my eye.
I must say I am addicted to this game but for the wrong reasons and thus need to work to overcome the addiction and then evaluate how good this game really is (I think I am on the path and indeed Pix is reinforcing my journey in this respect). But once a game takes away time from family and friends there must be a problem. And if you haven't got a family and all your mates hang out in War Robots than it is the same problem.
Here we are discussing tanking while it is totally irrelevant to just about everything.
From Wiki: Addiction is a brain disorder characterized by compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli, despite adverse consequences.[8] Despite the involvement of a number of psychosocial factors, a biological process – one which is induced by repeated exposure to an addictive stimulus – is the core pathology that drives the development and maintenance of an addiction.[1][9] The two properties that characterize all addictive stimuli are that they are reinforcing (i.e., they increase the likelihood that a person will seek repeated exposure to them) and intrinsically rewarding (i.e., they are perceived as being inherently positive, desirable, and pleasurable).[
That pretty much sums it ;) Morning coffee - reading about robots + couple of battles. Traffic jam? War Robots is the solution. Having a dinner and a movie? War Robots in background; forum+wiki in between of these. I liked the game so much, in the beginning, I ground ALL the information about it Internet had. Initial KangDae-Noricum Natty being the OP build? I know it, got some screenshots. Thunder being gold weapon at first? Yep. Hydra was called Swarm and was working like homing Noricums at first? Yeah, seen that. Bastion robot? Know that concept. Gekko was heating up target at first, the more heated the target - the more damage it gets? Read about it, too. Oh, and did you know that most weapons prior to 0.9 were working a bit like Scourge, in sense that damage decreased over distance? Crazy, right? And once again, there was a teaser showing most probably light-slot jump drive So I was eager to see at least SOME of the forgotten functions. So far only beacon rush has been introduced.
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Post by miladwanted on Jan 23, 2018 5:39:43 GMT -5
But you can only do that a finite amount of times. I think we are in the wake of a flurry of new bots/weapons. Then there will be a resting period of 6-12 months. but you are 100%, it's a membership in disguise. Just wish they focused the income generation on diversity and player experience rather then re-invent the game to generate income. Maybe so, but I guess they gone for a easier road. I suggested to Pix introducing some "advanced statistics" for a fee, like "match replay" or you stats like accuracy with every weapon, actual damage done, damage done to Ancile, to shield, to actual bot, when you hit several bots, how long each of your bots are alive at the battlefield, etc. Those could all have been introduced for a monthly subscription fee. Additional stuff like "bot rental", or "custom paintjobs" that are unlocked when you are on "paid subscription", and locked away when it ends. Another type of "advanced subscription" would allow you early access (say, month in advance) for new bots, like pre-release sale or so. Imagine that some clan (I don't know names) could've boast custom-painted (for example all-white or all-black) Exorcists squad right now, a month before official release? How could that would be? Other option could be introducing "advanced maps", ones where you can fall into lava, use stationary weapons, orbital nukes and such, also for paying customers, ability to change view to "in-cabin".... I am sorry, I got carried away a bit. But all in all I believe advanced gameplay would be WAY more interesting and positive than just milking players with new, OPPier and BESTEST stuff every now and then.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 5:45:35 GMT -5
a broken matches an illusion you need to pay for advanced items in order to compete against other players. Both side are equally skilled and have same similar bots. the bottom line come down who's composition hangar is suited those situation and those precise moments you made those actions winning. anything out of that borderline frame is paid to win to advanced. If I get you correct - yes, once you get some new stuff you are forced to tougher competition. Then you are given some "relax" matches, where you can enjoy your power, and then again you are thrown down to the wolves. Sealclubbing is helping Pix a lot, because now players could not blame Pix. Hey, all players are from +\- same leagues, right? So do not blame Pix, blame players. IMO that's why they never gonna fix sealclubbing. If leagues are +/- 1. Why does my Gold 1 hangar frequently see Expert players? That's +2. I rarely, if ever, see Silver players and seldom see Gold players. My Gold hangar, it would appear to Pix, be in Diamond.
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Post by Russel on Jan 24, 2018 10:40:27 GMT -5
If I get you correct - yes, once you get some new stuff you are forced to tougher competition. Then you are given some "relax" matches, where you can enjoy your power, and then again you are thrown down to the wolves. Sealclubbing is helping Pix a lot, because now players could not blame Pix. Hey, all players are from +\- same leagues, right? So do not blame Pix, blame players. IMO that's why they never gonna fix sealclubbing. If leagues are +/- 1. Why does my Gold 1 hangar frequently see Expert players? That's +2. I rarely, if ever, see Silver players and seldom see Gold players. My Gold hangar, it would appear to Pix, be in Diamond. Most probably because you are in qualification matches. They are making sure you will have your 「bum-bum」 handed to you in those, by inviting +2 League players for matches.
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Post by herbalmilitant on Feb 25, 2018 11:14:14 GMT -5
I think most are forgetting an important aspect of tanking. Skill. The whales and try-hards tech or buy their way to the upper league's and realize when they get there, that they suck, or at best, are just average. The only way they can get their rewards is to weight the odds in their favor. Pixonic only cares about their bottom line, as they should. They are obviously making bank on the wallet warriors and just as obviously dont care about the average player. Why screw up a good thing? Granted I've only been playing for a couple of months and am just in Silver 2 but I see a constant stream of tankers in my matches but the matches are over quickly and I go on about my business of playing for fun. Having an enormous member and a great life I don't stress over people that value their worth based on performance in a game. I feel sorry for them actually. If Pixonic wanted to 'fix' this 'problem they could just make it so, once you advance into a tier, you couldn't go to lower tier. What league you advance to will be the minimum points you could ever fall to. But that would cause crying because as I pointed out its mostly about skill and tankers lack that.
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Post by beaconhntr on Feb 25, 2018 12:43:01 GMT -5
Don't hate the players. Hate the game. Tanking is allowed by the game and everyone has the right to play the way that will benefit them the most. In game where farming is incredibly important, if tanking gets you more resources, then that is the best practice. It is is up to Pixonic to change that.
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Post by Radar love on Feb 25, 2018 13:00:52 GMT -5
Don't hate the players. Hate the game. Tanking is allowed by the game and everyone has the right to play the way that will benefit them the most. In game where farming is incredibly important, if tanking gets you more resources, then that is the best practice. It is is up to Pixonic to change that. I didn't rely on Marlboro or camel to help me stop smoking, it was my responsibility and mine alone! If you miss the point stick pixonic in for Marlboro and tanking for smoking. I cannot and will not rely on anyone or anything to do the right thing in my life.
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