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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 22, 2017 11:22:45 GMT -5
Very expensive to upgrade and not OP  |
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Post by Domino on Nov 22, 2017 11:36:34 GMT -5
Play it, enjoy it, you got your moneys worth.
If you want OP, buy those Haechi's... only $300, then spend $$$ on the shocktrains to really get the full OP effect
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Post by krebby on Nov 22, 2017 12:00:45 GMT -5
I think the Hoverbot looks like a fun and balanced bot. It is actually the first post-Dash content that I'm tempted to get. Not for $48, but I would probably be willing to spend $5 to $10 for it.
As far as the upgrade cost in Ag, I haven't seen the full upgrade table yet to determine if it is over-expensive. Every weapon and nearly every bot costs about 3,800,000 per day to upgrade from 1 to 12. Let's see where this one falls.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 22, 2017 12:05:18 GMT -5
Bots have a wide range there. Stalker takes 19 days and costs 16 million. Fujin/Raijin take 27 days and 41 million. Galahad/Doc/Rog each take 17.5 days and 64m silver.
Weapons are rather consistent, though, at your ~3.8m/day.
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Post by danny on Nov 22, 2017 12:09:17 GMT -5
You guys could be professors of War Robotics.
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Post by Nexsan on Nov 22, 2017 12:11:29 GMT -5
Very expensive to upgrade and not OP Disappointed 'cause it's not overpowered? Yeah Pix killed the market for balanced gear alright. We should be happy, now we just need to work on affordability. |
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Post by krebby on Nov 22, 2017 12:18:56 GMT -5
Bots have a wide range there. Stalker takes 19 days and costs 16 million. Fujin/Raijin take 27 days and 41 million. Galahad/Doc/Rog each take 17.5 days and 64m silver. Weapons are rather consistent, though, at your ~3.8m/day. Yes, the WSP bots are the exception to the rule. I wonder if that is because of the WSP silver cost. Also, Dash and Inquisitor don't follow the rule either, but the rest generally do:   |
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 22, 2017 12:20:52 GMT -5
I'm interested in the Hover. I like the concept. Just gotta learn to use the glide properly. I'm thinking with Shocktrains, it would be a killer.
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 22, 2017 13:21:13 GMT -5
I'm interested in the Hover. I like the concept. Just gotta learn to use the glide properly. I'm thinking with Shocktrains, it would be a killer. The glide does not fly high (like what we saw on the test server.) You fly a maximum height of like 20M and that's it! Also you are not fast enough while hovering. Think of it this way, a Stalker bot but with glider option as opposed to stealth and 2M slots as opposed to light. I am using 2 Tarans and 1 Magnum but still get my bot toasted. What a waste of my $$ and gold/silver upgrading it  |
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 22, 2017 13:26:35 GMT -5
That robot is fools gold.
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Post by NerFB on Nov 22, 2017 13:32:01 GMT -5
I'm interested in the Hover. I like the concept. Just gotta learn to use the glide properly. I'm thinking with Shocktrains, it would be a killer. Yes! Please buy it! Everyone must have one! ...my Fury Zeus is rabidly drooling in the hangar. |
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 22, 2017 13:40:25 GMT -5
Should I buy Shocktrains with Hover (firing range within 500m while hovering?)
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 22, 2017 13:50:29 GMT -5
Should I buy Shocktrains with Hover (firing range within 500m while hovering?) Thanks for posting your experiences on this bot. I haven't tried it yet, but how about running it like a Rog? Orkans and Pinata instead of plasma. It's fairly fast. Max speed of 50km/h is nowhere near Rog's top speed, but it's decent. How fast does it recharge after a quick jump (no glide). 5 seconds? If its similar to Rog's jump cool down, then yeah, I'd say run it like a slower Rog with a bit more firepower. If you have the dough, then try it with shocktrains. That's my long term plan after all. But I'm focusing my component purchases on the shocktrain first. If you have shocktrains, I would think a good tactic would be to jump straight up beside a building and zapping a red that is 500m away (or close to). You want to play to your bot and weapons strengths. Use the building as a shield from snipers and mid range bots, and zap and get down, move to another spot, rinse and repeat. Without shocktrains, my primarly choice would be orkans/pinata. But then I'm rocket centric to begin with. You could run it like a faster RDB, just don't over use the glide and always try to have a building beside you. Hydras and spiral might be interesting. The jump will give the missiles a higher arc and better hit chance. Ditto with aphid. |
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 22, 2017 13:54:46 GMT -5
Should I buy Shocktrains with Hover (firing range within 500m while hovering?) Thanks for posting your experiences on this bot. I haven't tried it yet, but how about running it like a Rog? Orkans and Pinata instead of plasma. It's fairly fast. Max speed of 50km/h is nowhere near Rog's top speed, but it's decent. How fast does it recharge after a quick jump (no glide). 5 seconds? If its similar to Rog's jump cool down, then yeah, I'd say run it like a slower Rog with a bit more firepower. If you have the dough, then try it with shocktrains. That's my long term plan after all. But I'm focusing my component purchases on the shocktrain first. Glad to know I shared valuable info. Feel free to ask me anything regarding the bot. The cool down for the bot is 7 seconds, and it can hover for almost 5-7s. It is fast just like a Stalker but when you glide you become a perfect target for the snipers. I like it when I want to capture beacons. Hmm, what else am I missing regarding this bot? |
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Post by Mechman-Mechout on Nov 22, 2017 13:56:46 GMT -5
Beginning to question my decision-making skills, 'cause I dropped $50 on this thing the very instant I could and already it's starting to show some flaws, though it does have some tasty upsides. I know being in the air is never a tactical advantage but DAMN is this thing fast in its element. And DAMN, I love how this thing just shoots right up there. Plus the uber-low cooldown timer? Sh1t, the Griffin can kiss its ss goodbye. None of that will change the fact snipers just became my worst enemy, though. |
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 22, 2017 14:00:56 GMT -5
Beginning to question my decision-making skills, 'cause I dropped $50 on this thing the very instant I could and already it's starting to show some flaws, though it does have some tasty upsides. I know being in the air is never a tactical advantage but DAMN is this thing fast in its element. And DAMN, I love how this thing just shoots right up there. Plus the uber-low cooldown timer? Sh1t, the Griffin can kiss its ss goodbye. None of that will change the fact snipers just became my worst enemy, though. I just played a game and OMG! Can you believe I dodged an Alphid attack when I glided? With the right skills it can be a red's nightmare  |
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 22, 2017 14:01:02 GMT -5
I read the cool down starts when you land. Is that right? That means, technically, you could have many quick jumps instead of one long glide. How high does a quick jump go? As high as a Cossack or a Rog? Probably not as high as a Griffin - which is a good thing.
If I'm right about the cool down and quick jumps, you could spam the quick jumps at close range like you would on a Rog.
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 22, 2017 14:04:26 GMT -5
I read the cool down starts when you land. Is that right? That means, technically, you could have many quick jumps instead of one long glide. How high does a quick jump go? As high as a Cossack or a Rog? Probably not as high as a Griffin - which is a good thing. If I'm right about the cool down and quick jumps, you could spam the quick jumps at close range like you would on a Rog. Yes! Cool down starts when you land. I was disappointed with the jump while gliding. If you want to climb higher while gliding then this bot will disappoint you. However, if you want a high one-time glide then it is okay (not really impressed with how high it glides. The youtube videos demonstrated different results.) |
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 22, 2017 14:07:54 GMT -5
I read the cool down starts when you land. Is that right? That means, technically, you could have many quick jumps instead of one long glide. How high does a quick jump go? As high as a Cossack or a Rog? Probably not as high as a Griffin - which is a good thing. If I'm right about the cool down and quick jumps, you could spam the quick jumps at close range like you would on a Rog. I was disappointed with the jump while gliding. If you want to climb higher while gliding then this bot will disappoint you. However, if you want a high one-time glide then it is okay (not really impressed with how high it glides. The youtube videos demonstrated different results.) Well, considering that I'm not actually planning on gliding with this bot... I just want to be able to do several jumps with lower cool down than the Rog. You know how the Rog gets really hard to hit when it's in your face? THAT is what I'm envisioning. And if you need to get over an obstacle that is out of reach of a typical Rog jump, then the glide could potentially help you get there. There's possibilities. Don't discount this bot yet! I'm not going to drop $60 on this bot yet (CAD), so I'll have to experience it vicariously through you! |
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Post by Mechman-Mechout on Nov 22, 2017 14:08:14 GMT -5
I read the cool down starts when you land. Is that right? That means, technically, you could have many quick jumps instead of one long glide. How high does a quick jump go? As high as a Cossack or a Rog? Probably not as high as a Griffin - which is a good thing. If I'm right about the cool down and quick jumps, you could spam the quick jumps at close range like you would on a Rog. Yup, cooldown starts when you hit the ground. A quick jump actually takes you astonishingly far: If I had to guess, I'd say it leaps a good deal higher than a Griffin (At least fifteen meters). Sorry bro, you're outta luck. |
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 22, 2017 14:10:58 GMT -5
I read the cool down starts when you land. Is that right? That means, technically, you could have many quick jumps instead of one long glide. How high does a quick jump go? As high as a Cossack or a Rog? Probably not as high as a Griffin - which is a good thing. If I'm right about the cool down and quick jumps, you could spam the quick jumps at close range like you would on a Rog. Yup, cooldown starts when you hit the ground. A quick jump actually takes you astonishingly far: If I had to guess, I'd say it leaps a good deal higher than a Griffin (At least fifteen meters). Sorry bro, you're outta luck. Dang.... ok there goes THAT idea out the window. Keep at it. I'm getting very interested in this bot, more than the Kumiho - but only because it's closer in reach than the Kumiho! |
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Post by Mechman-Mechout on Nov 22, 2017 14:17:13 GMT -5
Yup, cooldown starts when you hit the ground. A quick jump actually takes you astonishingly far: If I had to guess, I'd say it leaps a good deal higher than a Griffin (At least fifteen meters). Sorry bro, you're outta luck. Dang.... ok there goes THAT idea out the window. Keep at it. I'm getting very interested in this bot, more than the Kumiho - but only because it's closer in reach than the Kumiho! It's a tempting purchase, but if I were you, I'd wait to see how well this guy performs in a truly competitive scene. I'm already a little worried by its performance so far, but then again, I've not taken it into a serious battle yet. Only time will tell to see if this purchase pays off: And if it doesn't, at least it's a component bot, and guaranteed a buff if it underperforms. Gotta keep that profit high. |
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 22, 2017 14:20:13 GMT -5
Dang.... ok there goes THAT idea out the window. Keep at it. I'm getting very interested in this bot, more than the Kumiho - but only because it's closer in reach than the Kumiho! It's a tempting purchase, but if I were you, I'd wait to see how well this guy performs in a truly competitive scene. I'm already a little worried by its performance so far, but then again, I've not taken it into a serious battle yet. Only time will tell to see if this purchase pays off: And if it doesn't, at least it's a component bot, and guaranteed a buff if it underperforms. Gotta keep that profit high. No worries. I definitely don't have the loose cash to spend on this bot. If anything, I'll start working on the components AFTER I have a pair of shocktrains - which won't be for a VERY LONG time...sigh... |
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Post by ironpanda on Nov 22, 2017 14:22:55 GMT -5
have you tried it with different builds
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 22, 2017 14:26:00 GMT -5
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Post by ironpanda on Nov 22, 2017 14:28:03 GMT -5
how bout orkan pinatas or punisher build
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 22, 2017 14:28:47 GMT -5
I sold my Okrans long time ago to upgrade my Tarans so I can't comment on that one. Didn't try Pintas yet since as I mentioned close combat is lethal if you're not careful. |
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Post by ironpanda on Nov 22, 2017 14:32:28 GMT -5
i think punisher build could be pretty good
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Nov 22, 2017 14:56:23 GMT -5
Should I buy Shocktrains with Hover (firing range within 500m while hovering?) You should not have bought the bot in the first place. It's a gimmick bot. The first "flying" bot! Also the first bot that is weaker with it's ability than it is without it. All the glide does is make you a sitting duck. There are very few scenarios where it provides an advantage that is greater than it's disadvantage. |
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 22, 2017 14:58:35 GMT -5
Should I buy Shocktrains with Hover (firing range within 500m while hovering?) You should not have bought the bot in the first place. It's a gimmick bot. The first "flying" bot! Also the first bot that is weaker with it's ability than it is without it. All the glide does is make you a sitting duck. There are very few scenarios where it provides an advantage that is greater than it's disadvantage. Not so sure about that. I just played a game on the Dreadnought map. Seems that map was designed around the Hover. |
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