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Post by moody on Aug 2, 2017 20:44:10 GMT -5
interestingly the Pix notification was made a month and a half ago. wondering what ASAP means :-) As slow as ? |
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Post by acdcfan on Aug 2, 2017 23:10:09 GMT -5
interestingly the Pix notification was made a month and a half ago. wondering what ASAP means :-) well it means As Soon As Possible ( but you knew that), which will be next year or so.... you know like a fix where game does not respond for android users ( I am on iOS ) |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Aug 3, 2017 0:12:11 GMT -5
interestingly the Pix notification was made a month and a half ago. wondering what ASAP means :-) I can tell you that it hasn't happened as yet. @ thread: No matter what Pixonic does it won't be able to stop tanking. How are they going to measure that? I don't care who you are every last one of us has had matches where we have scored poorly, be that bad luck, experimenting with your hangers or whatever the reason. Is my all Destrier hanger now going to be considered a tanker because it rarely gets the high scores yet has fairly decent upgrades? If not then what's to keep any player with a full 12/12 inventory from just buying a bunch of Cossacks for their hanger and never upgrading them? They're doing that now. If Pixonic takes away the rewards in the LQ, or just lessens them, a bunch of those LQ players will be back in the NQ doing exactly as RockWelder and others here have described. And then what? Back to the same moaning and groaning from players we always have. Nothing will change. And nothing will change so long as most just b*tch and gripe instead of hitting Pixonic with their thoughts and desires for a different mm and ranking system. Most here agree the MM is a pile of wet runny dung. Yet they can't seem to see that since the MM is using those sh*tty league rankings to create matches(Pixonic's own admissions confirm this) then the league has to go in the dumper as well. You can't create matches based on those ridiculous ranks. Not well at any rate. Because just having this kind of system promotes the ability to tank and get easier matches, especially if one has highly upgraded equipment. Statistical ranking eliminates tanking since it's not based on a win/loss rate. It's based on a player's individual achievements and such. And it's harder to create matches based on statistics. But if you're creating matches based on players' hanger sizes and equipment and upgrade averages you not only eliminate any reason to tank you eliminate the ability of highly upgraded hangers to club lower upgraded hangers. Because tankers would always find themselves pitted against hanger very much like their own so they would never be able to gain any real advantage over their opponents. The game then becomes a matter of skill and experience over equipment upgrades. Based on its reactions to player complaints Pixonic doesn't want that. They don't really care what we think at all. Their polls are just fluff and dander. They don't want happy players that will spend money. They want angry and frustrated players that for some strange reason Pixonic actually thinks will spend money trying to upgrade and buy cr*p to win so they can gain ranking in that stupid,"league". Some will, most will not. And for the record leagues are what you use to rank teams. The National Football LEAGUE. The American Baseball LEAGUE. The Russian Hockey LEAGUE. Etc, etc. So tell me, anyone, anyone at all, how many teams do you see in that "league" we have in the game? Are you a team? I know I ain't. So why the ridiculous ranking system? |
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Post by TravLar on Aug 3, 2017 2:51:39 GMT -5
I'm gonna be totally out there and say I think the LQ might be bogus. I'm not sure it exists. I've yet see any real evidence of it. Lots people being they were mis-matched but that's it. I think it might just be a rumor spread as a threat to counter something that is very difficult for Pix to control.
It would be a simple matter for Pix to add a msg to the game that says, "This is a live, team game with and against others online, deliberate attempts to reduce your player rating effects other players enjoyment of the game and will result in relegation to an un-rated league. Please go to www... for more detail"
The website could explain further: "The game server will flags negative contributions such as tanking and fading. First relegation will result in a week in the LQ, a 2nd relegation is for a month and a 3rd relegation is permanent. To avoid relegation do not ... "
The fact that Pix doesn't do this makes me wonder what is actually going on here.
Also, I searched the War Robots website and there is nothing about a Leaver's Queue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 2:55:41 GMT -5
Also screws those of us that don't really play to make any goals, league scores, etc.
I usually have no idea what league I'm in, don't bother to look at it...and that's with playing 1 - 3 hours per day, addicted to the play, not the scores.
I believe anyone should be able to leave a game at any time they wish, it's an online game, I understand why some take it so serous but many don't......wish they had a "LQ" for people who don't want to squad, don't want to be in a clan, and just want random players who play and play any way they like.......
It's trying to mesh the "individual" and the "team" that causes lots of this. how to mesh "personal goals" (or those that play to play and don't care about any scores or standings) and the "team play" that makes your personal performance linked to the team.
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Post by moody on Aug 3, 2017 3:01:06 GMT -5
I'm gonna be totally out there and say I think the LQ might be bogus. I'm not sure it exists. I've yet see any real evidence of it. Lots people being they were mis-matched but that's it. I think it might just be a rumor spread as a threat to counter something that is very difficult for Pix to control.
It would be a simple matter for Pix to add a msg to the game that says, "This is a live, team game with and against others online, deliberate attempts to reduce your player rating effects other players enjoyment of the game and will result in relegation to an un-rated league. Please go to www... for more detail"
The website could explain further: "The game server will flags negative contributions such as tanking and fading. First relegation will result in a week in the LQ, a 2nd relegation is for a month and a 3rd relegation is permanent. To avoid relegation do not ... "
The fact that Pix doesn't do this makes me wonder what is actually going on here.
Also, I searched the War Robots website and there is nothing about a Leaver's Queue.
Knowing a few people who took weeks getting out of it it definitely exists and it is horrible. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 3:07:47 GMT -5
I'm gonna be totally out there and say I think the LQ might be bogus. I'm not sure it exists. I've yet see any real evidence of it. Lots people being they were mis-matched but that's it. I think it might just be a rumor spread as a threat to counter something that is very difficult for Pix to control.
It would be a simple matter for Pix to add a msg to the game that says, "This is a live, team game with and against others online, deliberate attempts to reduce your player rating effects other players enjoyment of the game and will result in relegation to an un-rated league. Please go to www... for more detail"
The website could explain further: "The game server will flags negative contributions such as tanking and fading. First relegation will result in a week in the LQ, a 2nd relegation is for a month and a 3rd relegation is permanent. To avoid relegation do not ... "
The fact that Pix doesn't do this makes me wonder what is actually going on here.
Also, I searched the War Robots website and there is nothing about a Leaver's Queue.
Yeah I've been there since the first day it was turned on a year or whatever ago.....it's real. I play against champions, experts, etc. every day and get wiped every day. Know what, it's fine, I play to play not make a league, or gold. As long as I can get the normal silver to upgrade, i'm good. Have no wish to go back to the normal leagues...... |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Aug 3, 2017 6:55:43 GMT -5
I'm gonna be totally out there and say I think the LQ might be bogus. I'm not sure it exists. I've yet see any real evidence of it. Lots people being they were mis-matched but that's it. I think it might just be a rumor spread as a threat to counter something that is very difficult for Pix to control.
It would be a simple matter for Pix to add a msg to the game that says, "This is a live, team game with and against others online, deliberate attempts to reduce your player rating effects other players enjoyment of the game and will result in relegation to an un-rated league. Please go to www... for more detail"
The website could explain further: "The game server will flags negative contributions such as tanking and fading. First relegation will result in a week in the LQ, a 2nd relegation is for a month and a 3rd relegation is permanent. To avoid relegation do not ... "
The fact that Pix doesn't do this makes me wonder what is actually going on here.
Also, I searched the War Robots website and there is nothing about a Leaver's Queue.
If you've got a decent hanger that matches mine or better I'll gladly trade you. I'll let you see that sh*thole with your own eyes and take a really deep breath in it. And then I'll let you keep it. |
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Post by TravLar on Aug 3, 2017 7:14:39 GMT -5
I'm gonna be totally out there and say I think the LQ might be bogus. I'm not sure it exists. I've yet see any real evidence of it. Lots people being they were mis-matched but that's it. I think it might just be a rumor spread as a threat to counter something that is very difficult for Pix to control.
It would be a simple matter for Pix to add a msg to the game that says, "This is a live, team game with and against others online, deliberate attempts to reduce your player rating effects other players enjoyment of the game and will result in relegation to an un-rated league. Please go to www... for more detail"
The website could explain further: "The game server will flags negative contributions such as tanking and fading. First relegation will result in a week in the LQ, a 2nd relegation is for a month and a 3rd relegation is permanent. To avoid relegation do not ... "
The fact that Pix doesn't do this makes me wonder what is actually going on here.
Also, I searched the War Robots website and there is nothing about a Leaver's Queue.
If you've got a decent hanger that matches mine or better I'll gladly trade you. I'll let you see that sh*thole with your own eyes and take a really deep breath in it. And then I'll let you keep it. But how do you know you're in the LQ? Just asking. |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Aug 3, 2017 7:35:45 GMT -5
But how do you know you're in the LQ? Just asking. Easy. The competition is everyone from Recruits to Legends League Champions. And then there are these 「fluffernutter」ing letters I keep getting from Pixonic stating it... At this point you've already insinuated that myself and others here in the forums are lying about it. Forum decorum prevents me from responding properly to that. But I definitely invite you to participate in the LQ by skipping a dozen or so maps and dropping out of a couple of dozen matches as the countdown is going on. |
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Post by titando on Aug 3, 2017 8:40:27 GMT -5
There is a "Leave Battle" button for a reason. Pixonic is not serious about "fixing" the league system or leaver's queue, at least not in any way that the players would like to see. They're going to fix "or rig" it in the best possible way for them to make more profit. If they wanted players to stay in the battle, they could easily remove the button for starters. But believe me, they will *never* do this. It is not in the best interest of making money.
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Post by titando on Aug 3, 2017 8:43:56 GMT -5
BTW... I'm not trying to imply that making a profit is a bad thing. Pixonic is a game company, and without a profit, like any other company, they would be out of business.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 9:39:35 GMT -5
If you've got a decent hanger that matches mine or better I'll gladly trade you. I'll let you see that sh*thole with your own eyes and take a really deep breath in it. And then I'll let you keep it. But how do you know you're in the LQ? Just asking. 75 % of matches start as 6 on 5, there are Champions that will play you with their 3 taking on your 6 and push you to limit...... There will be a guy hopping around in a Cossack firing at a wall because he is a bronze level and can't do much else There will be a guy in a destrier just sort of shadowing your Fury, around it's feet not doing much You have missle campers everywhere not really doing much about beacons but destroying robots with their griffins with orkans and pinatas, which are already way overpowered for a support weapon.....but given that they are level 12's, will now erase 200+ of your health in seconds You will generally know who is going to win the match within first 2 minutes......so you either stick out getting your butt wiped or just drop out like 3 of your teammates already did....... Just some experiences........ |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Aug 3, 2017 13:11:18 GMT -5
There is a "Leave Battle" button for a reason. Pixonic is not serious about "fixing" the league system or leaver's queue, at least not in any way that the players would like to see. They're going to fix "or rig" it in the best possible way for them to make more profit. If they wanted players to stay in the battle, they could easily remove the button for starters. But believe me, they will *never* do this. It is not in the best interest of making money. Then Pixonic's financial advisers are 「fluffernutter」*rded. Angry players don't spend money on a game that makes them frustrated no matter what those idiots might think. Challenge is one thing. Stupid design is quite another. Happy players spend money on games. Happy customers are repeat customers. That's economics 101. I'm a frustrated customer. I've spent money on the game. But after seeing how it actually works I will not spend another dime on it. I know I ain't the only one either. I've seen many posting from others and heard them talk on Discord stating their spending is at an end. Many, many more have just quit playing altogether. |
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 3, 2017 15:29:02 GMT -5
interestingly the Pix notification was made a month and a half ago. wondering what ASAP means :-) I can tell you that it hasn't happened as yet. @ thread: No matter what Pixonic does it won't be able to stop tanking. How are they going to measure that? I don't care who you are every last one of us has had matches where we have scored poorly, be that bad luck, experimenting with your hangers or whatever the reason. Is my all Destrier hanger now going to be considered a tanker because it rarely gets the high scores yet has fairly decent upgrades? If not then what's to keep any player with a full 12/12 inventory from just buying a bunch of Cossacks for their hanger and never upgrading them? They're doing that now. If Pixonic takes away the rewards in the LQ, or just lessens them, a bunch of those LQ players will be back in the NQ doing exactly as RockWelder and others here have described. And then what? Back to the same moaning and groaning from players we always have. Nothing will change. And nothing will change so long as most just b*tch and gripe instead of hitting Pixonic with their thoughts and desires for a different mm and ranking system. Most here agree the MM is a pile of wet runny dung. Yet they can't seem to see that since the MM is using those sh*tty league rankings to create matches(Pixonic's own admissions confirm this) then the league has to go in the dumper as well. You can't create matches based on those ridiculous ranks. Not well at any rate. Because just having this kind of system promotes the ability to tank and get easier matches, especially if one has highly upgraded equipment. Statistical ranking eliminates tanking since it's not based on a win/loss rate. It's based on a player's individual achievements and such. And it's harder to create matches based on statistics. But if you're creating matches based on players' hanger sizes and equipment and upgrade averages you not only eliminate any reason to tank you eliminate the ability of highly upgraded hangers to club lower upgraded hangers. Because tankers would always find themselves pitted against hanger very much like their own so they would never be able to gain any real advantage over their opponents. The game then becomes a matter of skill and experience over equipment upgrades. Based on its reactions to player complaints Pixonic doesn't want that. They don't really care what we think at all. Their polls are just fluff and dander. They don't want happy players that will spend money. They want angry and frustrated players that for some strange reason Pixonic actually thinks will spend money trying to upgrade and buy cr*p to win so they can gain ranking in that stupid,"league". Some will, most will not. And for the record leagues are what you use to rank teams. The National Football LEAGUE. The American Baseball LEAGUE. The Russian Hockey LEAGUE. Etc, etc. So tell me, anyone, anyone at all, how many teams do you see in that "league" we have in the game? Are you a team? I know I ain't. So why the ridiculous ranking system? I agree - Googleplex +1% Players are able to "Tank" because the Scoring system allows a Player to manipulate their Score. This is why "Leagues" that you mentioned, have implemented a simple +/0 Scoring system. Official Leagues cannot go backwards or fall in Standings, only fail to Gain. But it gets frustrating. My Hangar is 4/12 and I am constantly Upgrading but I see No gain. In fact I see Loss, with Upgrades because my Opponents will, with the new "algorithm," continually pit me against Opponents that are not suited to my League. So, as I grow in power so do my Opponents. I currently see no progress and without progress Players leave. I am literally stuck in Silver-I with, what appears to me, no hope of escape because my Opponents are always superior and my point Loss keeps me stagnant. .. it took me 9 days to generate 7M Silver - with Premium. So, even Premium is worthless to me - currently. |
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Post by amidf on Aug 3, 2017 16:25:27 GMT -5
But it gets frustrating. My Hangar is 4/12 and I am constantly Upgrading but I see No gain. In fact I see Loss, with Upgrades because my Opponents will, with the new "algorithm," continually pit me against Opponents that are not suited to my League. So, as I grow in power so do my Opponents. I currently see no progress and without progress Players leave. I am literally stuck in Silver-I with, what appears to me, no hope of escape because my Opponents are always superior and my point Loss keeps me stagnant. .. it took me 9 days to generate 7M Silver - with Premium. So, even Premium is worthless to me - currently. By 4/12 you mean bots at lv4, weapons at lv12? That's certainly one way to do it, but it would be much faster to progress if you upgraded bots and weapons evenly. Anyway, getting your bots to lv8 should be really quick now. 9 days to generate 7M silver is pretty long. Obviously if you only play a couple games a day, that's gonna happen. But you should be earning 100-300k silver per battle. Can you post a picture of your hangar? Seems like something is not right. -Amid |
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 3, 2017 17:24:36 GMT -5
But it gets frustrating. My Hangar is 4/12 and I am constantly Upgrading but I see No gain. In fact I see Loss, with Upgrades because my Opponents will, with the new "algorithm," continually pit me against Opponents that are not suited to my League. So, as I grow in power so do my Opponents. I currently see no progress and without progress Players leave. I am literally stuck in Silver-I with, what appears to me, no hope of escape because my Opponents are always superior and my point Loss keeps me stagnant. .. it took me 9 days to generate 7M Silver - with Premium. So, even Premium is worthless to me - currently. By 4/12 you mean bots at lv4, weapons at lv12? That's certainly one way to do it, but it would be much faster to progress if you upgraded bots and weapons evenly. Anyway, getting your bots to lv8 should be really quick now. 9 days to generate 7M silver is pretty long. Obviously if you only play a couple games a day, that's gonna happen. But you should be earning 100-300k silver per battle. Can you post a picture of your hangar? Seems like something is not right. -Amid Here's my current Hangar. I replaced my Rogatka with a second Doc, which is currently being upgraded ..   Just seen this, too .. kind of speaks for itself regarding the MM.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 17:40:54 GMT -5
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 3, 2017 17:45:19 GMT -5
Never seen the need for a 4th or 5th Slot. Besides, if my Opponents can rip my current 3, then Dollars to Donuts they'd annihilate all 5 .. |
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Post by moody on Aug 3, 2017 17:55:35 GMT -5
Never seen the need for a 4th or 5th Slot. Besides, if my Opponents can rip my current 3, then Dollars to Donuts they'd annihilate all 5 .. Fair enough. But at the same time, if they rip through a bot every 2.5 minutes - a 4th bot would last you to the end of the game. |
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Post by T34 on Aug 3, 2017 17:57:03 GMT -5
I'm gonna be totally out there and say I think the LQ might be bogus. I'm not sure it exists. I've yet see any real evidence of it. Lots people being they were mis-matched but that's it. I think it might just be a rumor spread as a threat to counter something that is very difficult for Pix to control.
It would be a simple matter for Pix to add a msg to the game that says, "This is a live, team game with and against others online, deliberate attempts to reduce your player rating effects other players enjoyment of the game and will result in relegation to an un-rated league. Please go to www... for more detail"
The website could explain further: "The game server will flags negative contributions such as tanking and fading. First relegation will result in a week in the LQ, a 2nd relegation is for a month and a 3rd relegation is permanent. To avoid relegation do not ... "
The fact that Pix doesn't do this makes me wonder what is actually going on here.
Also, I searched the War Robots website and there is nothing about a Leaver's Queue.
ha ha. here is a challenge for you. press the To battle button and 2 sec later leave the battle. map wont come up and in all likelihood the MM will replace you 99%+ of the time so no effect on others. repeat the procedure 50-80 times and you will have first hand experience of the LQ. in 20 to 30 mins you will have your answer. and if it doesn't exist than there is no risk in doing that. |
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Post by amidf on Aug 3, 2017 17:58:11 GMT -5
Never seen the need for a 4th or 5th Slot. Besides, if my Opponents can rip my current 3, then Dollars to Donuts they'd annihilate all 5 .. Yeah. I think you would earn silver faster with 5 slots. If you're not meching out early, then you're not playing aggressively enough. You're stuck in Silver because you have a 3-slot hangar. Now, I know iOS Expert is more like Gold or Diamond in Android, but I never see 3-slot hangars in iOS Expert. I'm running 9/10. Adding at least the 4th slot and increasing bot levels will get you a lot farther. Since lv10-12 upgrades costs tons of silver, you've stunted development by putting so much into a few level 12 weapons that could have been spread amongst a bunch of lv9 bots and weapons. Just my take on it. -Amid |
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 3, 2017 18:20:01 GMT -5
Never seen the need for a 4th or 5th Slot. Besides, if my Opponents can rip my current 3, then Dollars to Donuts they'd annihilate all 5 .. Yeah. I think you would earn silver faster with 5 slots. If you're not meching out early, then you're not playing aggressively enough. You're stuck in Silver because you have a 3-slot hangar. Now, I know iOS Expert is more like Gold or Diamond in Android, but I never see 3-slot hangars in iOS Expert. I'm running 9/10. Adding at least the 4th slot and increasing bot levels will get you a lot farther. Since lv10-12 upgrades costs tons of silver, you've stubted development by putting so much into a few level 12 weapons that could have been spread amongst a bunch of lv9 bots and weapons. Just my take on it. -Amid I understand your reasoning. However, I rarely mech-out and my Opponents are aggressive enough where I need to play defense lol Granted I play much less than usual since the "adjustment" to MM and the rare time I Win, I earn +300k Silver but Silver has been Nerfed for Losing. So, my net Silver is at 30% of average. Prior to the "adjustment" I could earn 5-6M Silver per day, now 5M Silver per week. Three Hangar bays I feel are enough for me currently and the plans I've made for my Hangar. Only since the "adjustment" have I been having difficulties. Three Hangar bays force me to fight smarter not harder and that I do enjoy. If a 4th or 5th Bay would improve my Ranking, then that would infer that MM does, in part, depend on a "Hangar-based" system despite what Pixonic claims. Pixonic has admitted that there is no shortage of +Gold League players, rather Silver and Bronze numbers have been artificially inflated due to Tanking. I feel if Pixonic would address the root cause, Scoring, Players would be kept in appropriate Leagues and the MM can be tightened up, again. As it stands now, it's grim .. |
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Post by amidf on Aug 3, 2017 18:27:28 GMT -5
I understand your reasoning. However, I rarely mech-out and my Opponents are aggressive enough where I need to play defense lol Granted I play much less than usual since the "adjustment" to MM and the rare time I Win, I earn +300k Silver but Silver has been Nerfed for Losing. So, my net Silver is at 30% of average. Prior to the "adjustment" I could earn 5-6M Silver per day, now 5M Silver per week. Three Hangar bays I feel are enough for me currently and the plans I've made for my Hangar. Only since the "adjustment" have I been having difficulties. Three Hangar bays force me to fight smarter not harder and that I do enjoy. If a 4th or 5th Bay would improve my Ranking, then that would infer that MM does, in part, depend on a "Hangar-based" system despite what Pixonic claims. Pixonic has admitted that there is no shortage of +Gold League players, rather Silver and Bronze numbers have been artificially inflated due to Tanking. I feel if Pixonic would address the root cause, Scoring, Players would be kept in appropriate Leagues and the MM can be tightened up, again. As it stands now, it's grim .. Well, compared to gold weapons and bots, 1000 Au for 4th slot isn't a lot. I recommend you add it and put some extra bot and weapons on it. Hopefully something somewhat leveled although I wouldn't expect lv12. And for your next few upgrades, I suggest increasing bot levels on any of those bots you plan to play long term. It won't cost you much silver or time. Just give it a try and see what happens? The MM is not hangar based. It is league point based. But having more and better bots and weapons is definitely going to impact league points. It's just not a direct effect. I bet your win rate will get better too. Especially if it adjusts your "defensive" play style. Mo' damage, mo' winning, mo' silver. -Amid |
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 3, 2017 18:43:55 GMT -5
I understand your reasoning. However, I rarely mech-out and my Opponents are aggressive enough where I need to play defense lol Granted I play much less than usual since the "adjustment" to MM and the rare time I Win, I earn +300k Silver but Silver has been Nerfed for Losing. So, my net Silver is at 30% of average. Prior to the "adjustment" I could earn 5-6M Silver per day, now 5M Silver per week. Three Hangar bays I feel are enough for me currently and the plans I've made for my Hangar. Only since the "adjustment" have I been having difficulties. Three Hangar bays force me to fight smarter not harder and that I do enjoy. If a 4th or 5th Bay would improve my Ranking, then that would infer that MM does, in part, depend on a "Hangar-based" system despite what Pixonic claims. Pixonic has admitted that there is no shortage of +Gold League players, rather Silver and Bronze numbers have been artificially inflated due to Tanking. I feel if Pixonic would address the root cause, Scoring, Players would be kept in appropriate Leagues and the MM can be tightened up, again. As it stands now, it's grim .. Well, compared to gold weapons and bots, 1000 Au for 4th slot isn't a lot. I recommend you add it and put some extra bot and weapons on it. Hopefully something somewhat leveled although I wouldn't expect lv12. And for your next few upgrades, I suggest increasing bot levels on any of those bots you plan to play long term. It won't cost you much silver or time. Just give it a try and see what happens? The MM is not hangar based. It is league point based. But having more and better bots and weapons is definitely going to impact league points. It's just not a direct effect. I bet your win rate will get better too. Especially if it adjusts your "defensive" play style. Mo' damage, mo' winning, mo' silver. -Amid To be honest, I do plan on a 4th bay. I will place my 3rd Doc in it. Gold isn't an issue, I purchased the "Doc Sale" so I have the weapons I need. As I said earlier, it's only been since the "adjustment" that I've been having difficulties. I'll take your advice soon .. |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Aug 3, 2017 18:50:06 GMT -5
FirebeardSurely you have other more upgraded bots? I'd be using those until the Docs reach parity with their weapons.
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 3, 2017 18:53:52 GMT -5
FirebeardSurely you have other more upgraded bots? I'd be using those until the Docs reach parity with their weapons. Believe it not but the answer to your question is: "No" I have spent, since March 28th - when I started, I have been levelling my current Hangar. Other than a L4 Rogatka, which I cannibalized for the Molot Mk2's, I have no other viable mecha. |
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Post by T34 on Aug 3, 2017 19:09:49 GMT -5
Yeah. I think you would earn silver faster with 5 slots. If you're not meching out early, then you're not playing aggressively enough. You're stuck in Silver because you have a 3-slot hangar. Now, I know iOS Expert is more like Gold or Diamond in Android, but I never see 3-slot hangars in iOS Expert. I'm running 9/10. Adding at least the 4th slot and increasing bot levels will get you a lot farther. Since lv10-12 upgrades costs tons of silver, you've stubted development by putting so much into a few level 12 weapons that could have been spread amongst a bunch of lv9 bots and weapons. Just my take on it. -Amid I understand your reasoning. However, I rarely mech-out and my Opponents are aggressive enough where I need to play defense lol Granted I play much less than usual since the "adjustment" to MM and the rare time I Win, I earn +300k Silver but Silver has been Nerfed for Losing. So, my net Silver is at 30% of average. Prior to the "adjustment" I could earn 5-6M Silver per day, now 5M Silver per week. Three Hangar bays I feel are enough for me currently and the plans I've made for my Hangar. Only since the "adjustment" have I been having difficulties. Three Hangar bays force me to fight smarter not harder and that I do enjoy. If a 4th or 5th Bay would improve my Ranking, then that would infer that MM does, in part, depend on a "Hangar-based" system despite what Pixonic claims. Pixonic has admitted that there is no shortage of +Gold League players, rather Silver and Bronze numbers have been artificially inflated due to Tanking. I feel if Pixonic would address the root cause, Scoring, Players would be kept in appropriate Leagues and the MM can be tightened up, again. As it stands now, it's grim .. which adjustment to the MM are you referring to (as there were several)? |
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 3, 2017 19:15:26 GMT -5
I understand your reasoning. However, I rarely mech-out and my Opponents are aggressive enough where I need to play defense lol Granted I play much less than usual since the "adjustment" to MM and the rare time I Win, I earn +300k Silver but Silver has been Nerfed for Losing. So, my net Silver is at 30% of average. Prior to the "adjustment" I could earn 5-6M Silver per day, now 5M Silver per week. Three Hangar bays I feel are enough for me currently and the plans I've made for my Hangar. Only since the "adjustment" have I been having difficulties. Three Hangar bays force me to fight smarter not harder and that I do enjoy. If a 4th or 5th Bay would improve my Ranking, then that would infer that MM does, in part, depend on a "Hangar-based" system despite what Pixonic claims. Pixonic has admitted that there is no shortage of +Gold League players, rather Silver and Bronze numbers have been artificially inflated due to Tanking. I feel if Pixonic would address the root cause, Scoring, Players would be kept in appropriate Leagues and the MM can be tightened up, again. As it stands now, it's grim .. which adjustment to the MM are you referring to (as there were several)? .. the Cross-League expansion (the latest one). |
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Post by T34 on Aug 3, 2017 19:20:34 GMT -5
which adjustment to the MM are you referring to (as there were several)? .. the Cross-League expansion (the latest one). ok, fair enough. I do agree the leagues are crossed too much as the band should be narrower. Silver goes from private to diamond as far as I understand. |
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