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Post by smanker on Jun 6, 2017 12:44:44 GMT -5
I'll admit, it bugs me when I see this. Personally I've never run more than two of the same bot, albeit loaded with different weapons systems (am I using albeit right?). But my point is that this game offers several different options, and to load a hanger up with 5 griffins just seems....boring? People who do this, do you just really love griffins? What's up?
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jun 6, 2017 13:00:31 GMT -5
Be ran 5 Griffs before and early in War Robots I drove 5 Boas.
You can easily justify driving 5 Griffs now.
2 RDBs, 2 PDBs, 1 DB (or 1 Molot Griff) -- that's 5 Griff setups that can play every map and the only setup you are missing is a true long ranger in the 1000m+ distances (which is okay if you don't have one). Heck, I've seen 5 DB Grif hangars with avg dmgs in the 600s and 5 PDB Griff hangars also in the 600s.
Griff are even good beacon runners! What more could you use or ask for?
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Jun 6, 2017 13:04:22 GMT -5
I run 3 Rogs and 2 Griffs...don't hate me because they are beautiful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 13:06:46 GMT -5
How bout that
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Post by Uhnonimis on Jun 6, 2017 13:13:08 GMT -5
At one point early in my War Robots career, I ran 4 Leos, all with different loadouts. When I got my 5th slot, I filled it with a Stalker. Two of my other Leos have been replaced with a Griffin and a Carnage. Eventually, the other Leos will also be replaced. Sic transit, gloria Leo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 13:17:59 GMT -5
It actually depends on the bot. Previously, I saw many 5x Gepards or 5x Griffins, but now there is only one stagnant hangar that I hate seeing: 5x Lancelots.
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Post by psyflex on Jun 6, 2017 13:41:33 GMT -5
I don't mind if someone is using 5 of the same Mechs... If he's piloting them good, i prefer that to having him pilot 5 different ones and only being good with one of them. I run 3 Griffins myself (Pinata/Orkan, Pin/Tulumba, Magnum/Taran) and i even own a 4th one, because i wanted to test Punishers & Molots with him. Personally i like the Jumpjets, because i often can take a shortcut, to quicker reach a beacon or team mate who needs support or to escape from a big load of missiles coming my way. On slot#5 i have lil' Gareth, if i need to get somewhere *fast*. Slot#1 changes often, as i didn't find my 5th Mech yet, since i still have to buy & level a lot of weapons
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Post by Russel on Jun 6, 2017 13:48:12 GMT -5
I'll admit, it bugs me when I see this. Personally I've never run more than two of the same bot, albeit loaded with different weapons systems (am I using albeit right?). But my point is that this game offers several different options, and to load a hanger up with 5 griffins just seems....boring? People who do this, do you just really love griffins? What's up? I support people playing however they want to play, but I agree with you from a fan of diversity standpoint. Battles are much more fun when there are at least 6 different bots simultaneously on the battlefield... not 6 Griffins, 4 Leos, 1 Stalker, and 1 Gareth. I saw someone using a Schutze with a Zeus today for the first time. That made my day. There are 24 robots. Why limit yourself to only 1, 2 or 3? Yeah, I would definitely run 6 bots. But for now it's only five:
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Post by Poopface on Jun 6, 2017 13:58:55 GMT -5
Anyone else judge people who run 5 of the same bot? There is only one judge Dredd77Word on the street is that he is the law.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Jun 6, 2017 14:12:44 GMT -5
There are 24 robots. Why limit yourself to only 1, 2 or 3? This all depends on where your at in the game. Unfortunately, in the top leagues theres only a handfull of bots you can run and be consistently successful. I absolutely love light and fast bots, but in champ league they just wont last against a full squad of organized heavies.
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Post by Russel on Jun 6, 2017 14:28:05 GMT -5
</div>You got this quotation all mixed up :-D But to continue conversation- why go to champions? Here in the Diamond I was feeling fine in my only Silver bots hangar (save for two Magnums), and now I think I'll play some WW bots hangar. Also in several Expert squad battles I saw Zeus-Gekko Vityaz and Thunder-Orkan Boa. So I think diversity end about Champions in iOS .
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Post by Russel on Jun 6, 2017 14:34:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I would definitely run 6 bots. But for now it's only five: I am talking about 6 different players in 6 different bots instead of at least 6 players in the same bot. I spawned today on a team with 5 Griffins. The other team spawned the same way as well, with one red piloting a Stalker while I was in a Rogatka. 10 Griffins on the battlefield = boring Ahh, now we're talking. Completely agree. That's why I don't like Britbots or DB/PDB bots. And was running Cossack up to D2 league. And now running Jesse's hangar. Yes, it sucks to see Griffin/Lance/Fury, sometimes Gareth and that's all. That's why I was trying hard fitting Raijin into a battle (no luck so far).
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Post by Scuzzbopper on Jun 6, 2017 14:59:17 GMT -5
5 Cossacks before Leagues and after the MM update.
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Post by Uhnonimis on Jun 6, 2017 15:15:50 GMT -5
There is only one judge Dredd77Word on the street is that he is the law. Is blatant sucking up to mods allowed in General Discussion? :^)
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Post by Poopface on Jun 6, 2017 15:25:04 GMT -5
If you're nice to me, I'll put in a good word for you with el jefe.
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Post by ΒΣRΖΣRKΛ²³ on Jun 6, 2017 15:25:40 GMT -5
Some people used to run all Gepard hangars, and they even used to have all the same guns on every one of em..
Now I personally don't like to limit myself botwise so I hardly use two of one kind. I ain't in Lancelot league though yet...
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Post by ΒΣRΖΣRKΛ²³ on Jun 6, 2017 15:39:31 GMT -5
Some people used to run all Gepard hangars, and they even used to have all the same guns on every one of em.. Now I personally don't like to limit myself botwise so I hardly use two of one kind. I ain't in Lancelot league though yet... Is that why Pixonic nerfed Gepards? Nah they didn't nerf Gepards did they? They buffed matchmaking..*ducks*
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Post by Russel on Jun 6, 2017 16:03:14 GMT -5
Nah they didn't nerf Gepards did they? They buffed matchmaking..*ducks* The health was reduced, wasn't it? Only the base health. 54 -> 44K Level12 health remains the same, 87K
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Post by 0ppressor on Jun 6, 2017 16:16:31 GMT -5
Has all 5 slots? Good by me!
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Post by carson2000 on Jun 6, 2017 16:16:49 GMT -5
I don't judge them but I like some variation in my bots. No two bots I have are the same but that's just personal preference
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 16:33:04 GMT -5
If 5 of the same bot works, then end of story. Kinda hard to argue with 5 Griffs. Heck, used to be a full hangar of tri-mag Geps would clean house.
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Post by make7upyours on Jun 6, 2017 16:35:46 GMT -5
I don't run all of the same kind bot, but it's more for my sanity than anything else. 5 of the same bot just seems boring. I play for fun.
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Post by zer00eyz on Jun 6, 2017 16:42:56 GMT -5
I'll admit, it bugs me when I see this. Personally I've never run more than two of the same bot, albeit loaded with different weapons systems (am I using albeit right?). But my point is that this game offers several different options, and to load a hanger up with 5 griffins just seems....boring? People who do this, do you just really love griffins? What's up? There is a good reason to do this, you will learn to pilot that bot, faster. If your going to bring a bot you haven't driven in a while back into your hanger and you have more than one, no reason not to shove as many as possible in just to get back in the saddle. Also a 5 carnage hanger would be sweet.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Jun 6, 2017 16:52:55 GMT -5
Seen a maxed 5 slot Carn hangar (I think it was Red Planet). Effective on close maps, murdered on anything a bit more open (esp with range for Plasma). I believe he only dropped on maps that were suited to his bots.
However, he was a terror in places like DC...
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Post by Firebeard on Jun 6, 2017 17:36:50 GMT -5
I would run five of the same Mecha, with different loadouts for various Maps.
It's best to run with what you know and are comfortable with as well as which suits your play style .. better the Devil you know than the Devil you don't ..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 17:51:14 GMT -5
I'll admit, it bugs me when I see this. Personally I've never run more than two of the same bot, albeit loaded with different weapons systems (am I using albeit right?). But my point is that this game offers several different options, and to load a hanger up with 5 griffins just seems....boring? People who do this, do you just really love griffins? What's up? I support people playing however they want to play, but I agree with you from a fan of diversity standpoint. Battles are much more fun when there are at least 6 different bots simultaneously on the battlefield... not 6 Griffins, 4 Leos, 1 Stalker, and 1 Gareth. I saw someone using a Schutze with a Zeus today for the first time. That made my day. There are 24 robots. Why limit yourself to only 1, 2 or 3? There are: 10 Ag bots 6 Au bots 5 WSP bots 3 "influence" bots Let's break that down further. 10 Ag bots: 3 Light 4 Medium 3 Heavy 3 light: -Slowest bots of the weight class -least firepower of the weight class -least HP of the weight class (save Shutze) 4 Medium:5-12kmph faster than heavy counterparts, 8-40k less health on average Patton: tied for slowest medium, weapons pop off quickly, tied for lowest health of it's class Golem: mediocre speed, tied for lowest health for it's class, 3 different hard points Boa: highest health of it's weight class(but not as much as Galahad health+ shield), mediocre speed, hard points don't work together well unless close (still dies in a single DB salvo) Vityaz: mediocre max health (154k), mediocre speed, same DPM as boa, higher DPS 3:heavy Natasha: Tied for second highest potential firepower in the game, slow as a brick, conflicting weapon ranges, mediocre health for it's class (158k) Leo: second highest max HP in the game, only slightly better firepower for a medium bot, tied for second fastest heavy bot Griffin: Arguably best hard point combination in the game, 80kmph horizontal speed on a 125-150M high jump, tied for second fastest foot speed heavy in the game. Verdict: Griffin or gtfo, mediums only have 7kmph foot speed over it, which it more than makes up for with superior firepower and jump. Natasha can act as a poor man's fury, but it's mixed hard points leave it with clunky functionality. 1/10 viable Ag bots for end game 6 au bots 2 lights: Geppard: third place in foot speed for it's weight class, less foot speed than rogatka, no inbuilt defenses, low health Gareth: Tied for second place in foot speed with it's shield down, 1/2 firepower of Griffin, low health without shield (shield health double its base health) Rogatka: fastest bot in its weight class (excluding carnage's Rush), Jump, unique firepower, mediocre health (150k) Galahad: 3rd fastest bot in it's weight class with it's shield down, high health, high shield health, 60% of Griffin grade firepower Lancelot: Tied for 3rd highest base health in the game (170k), 3 part shield (80k HP each), tied for second slowest heavy in the game(with rush making it the second fastest by ability), more-or less tied with Griffin in terms of firepower Fury: unique hard points (3heavy), tied for second highest potential firepower in the game. Tied for second slowest bot in the game. Verdict: everything but Geppard. Rog and Gary work as suitable light bots, while Galahad and Lancelot have some of the best durability AND firepower for their class. Fury's weapon set makes it stand in a league of its own in terms of mid-to-long range combat. Gareth and Rog take great situational awareness and tact to play properly. 3/6 scrub comparable bots 5/6 Au bots viable for end game 6/16 total bots viable for end game 4/16 easy bots viable for end game 5 WSP bots: Stalker: fastest unmodified foot-speed in the game. Unique (and one of the best) skills in the game, low firepower, highest base health in it's weight class(still dies -quickly- if piloted recklessly) Carnage: Built in energy shield, lowest health for it's weight class,tied for slowest medium (however it is the fastest medium while rushing), unique weapon set for it's class. Rhino: tied for third highest HP in the game (170k), slowest heavy in the game (fastest heavy in the game while charging), shares the same weapon sets as Griffin Fujin: mediocre health, best energy shield in the game, tied for slowest medium bot in the game, collision nightmare legs, highest firepower of class. Raijin: highest HP in the game(250K), strongest cumulative shield (150k each side for 300k), dead center speed for it's weight class (33kmph), collision nightmare legs, same firepower as carnage Verdict: All of these bots need VERY skilled pilots to be effective, with midrange equipped Fujin and carnage being the easiest to play effectively. Raijin comes up short, even with it's mountain of HP, because it still only equates to 8 seconds worth of 300M rockets until popping smoke. 2/5 useable for scrubs 4/5 viable for end game (in the right hands) 10/21 viable bots for end game 6/21 easy viable bots for end game Wild bunch are scarce enough in population,(and gimmicky to obtain) that I won't include them here. So, 10/21 bots available in the shop are viable for 12/12 play Only one of those bots is Ag(see:doesn't take months to obtain for free), Griffin, while Natasha is a cheap Fury replacement (thus not counted). Wsp is time based, so the more high level WSP stuff you see, the longer that person has been around. Au is real money currency, of which, most players should grind out 6k worth (greater than the cost of any of these bots) for 5 slots before purchasing Au weapons, and THEN Au bots. Wallet warriors and long time players are the only people with access to a lot of different bots at the same level for the level of play that player is at. I don't look down on players that have 5 Griffin hangars, and pity anyone with a homogenous hangar of anything else because of the wasted investment. Diversity occurs when a game is balanced enough for the majority of it's items to be different-yet-equal, War Robots is not one of those games(yet). So stick to your guns, it was once said that "cookie cutters are what they are for a reason: they work. Don't get angry when you lose because you handicapped yourself trying to be different."
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jun 6, 2017 17:55:08 GMT -5
Personally, I'd not give it a second thought unless it somehow cost me the game.
And even then, to each their own.
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Post by moody on Jun 6, 2017 19:24:53 GMT -5
At one point (old matchmaker) I often played 4 boas and a midrange vityez. Loved that bot.
I am currently, with a dozen odd gold bots sitting in my hangar, running 3 griffins, a carnage and a lancelot. Just because at the moment that's what works.
Edited to check.
3 galahads, 2 garys, a butch, a doc, a gepard, a fury.
9. not a dozen. But still....
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Post by jckidd on Jun 6, 2017 19:57:16 GMT -5
Plasma griffon, db griffon, Stuka griffon, rdb griffon, Molot gunship, punisher gunship, archer griffon, that's 7 different load outs for the same ag bot in a game with a 5 slot max hanger. All effective and can go to top tier. That's why ?
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Jun 7, 2017 1:19:53 GMT -5
I run 4 Cossack with punisher before just for capping beacon and win 5 gold, but now it not work again.
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