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Post by MCYL on Jun 1, 2017 6:46:59 GMT -5
Can't say I'm overly impressed. Visually the new weapon skins make it a little harder to identify.
The buff on the 500m rockets are nice, Orkans probably a little overly so.
What I don't like is the new firing mechanic for them and the gecko buff. Lowers the skill ceiling of the game when the hardest weapons are made accessible for bad players and their foto weapons are unilaterally buffed.
Still, no major disaster. Just means made RDB pilots can still damage you post fooled.
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Post by snk on Jun 1, 2017 7:51:48 GMT -5
Played 2 games just now, didn't feel any big difference. Didn't use RBD, Gekko, Punisher.
Tried BD Griffin, doesn't need to wait Piñata for a full reload is a big bonus and I can feel the damage increase.
There were more RBD, my Galahad has more challenges but still manageable. But that was just 2 games, will play more tomorrow.
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Post by T34 on Jun 1, 2017 7:59:11 GMT -5
Galahad and Garry just been nerfed big time. Ancilot still ok-ish. Prepare for long range shoot outs. Sucks! Don't like using griffs but I may have to wipe the dust off them and bring em back. Don't like the shift towards long range combat.
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Post by Russel on Jun 1, 2017 8:03:27 GMT -5
Well, if you look real close you will notice that Orkan now shoots slower.
It used to be 3.2 second to unload full clip, and now it is ~3.4 full clip
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Post by T34 on Jun 1, 2017 8:17:53 GMT -5
Hi Russel,
But its buffed by 15%. Overall a big buff
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 8:21:00 GMT -5
Well, if you look real close you will notice that Orkan now shoots slower. It used to be 3.2 second to unload full clip, and now it is ~3.4 full clip Pix had been doing things like that for ages. They pass off needs as buffs this way. Punishers have been getting nerfed for every one of their "buffs",because "negative tradeoff" is apparently Russian for "Buff"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 8:24:05 GMT -5
I really like it so far. I've only been playing since mid January but I think it is an improvement to balance the field and (I think) pre-empt what is coming in the near future with the dash bots.
Played for 3 hours tonight and got the usual mix of players 2 grades above me and a raft of tankers/faders but when the teams were balanced, the matches seemed to be quite good and (more than usual) went down to the last 1 or 2 minutes to decide the winner.
I have generally liked playing an RDB in my line up and this change is a bonus for me. Tulumbas also seem like a good fit on the Rog too. I haven't noticed much change in the Gekko and only a slight change (to me) in the Punisher. Fujin's I came up against generally didn't seem to be effected to any great extent by the rocket buff.
I did note that the discounted gold offers made to the Android users when the update dropped hasn't been made in iOS (yet?)although the equipment offers have just come down (expensive - $100 Australian for a Stalker (L1) and 2 aphids (L5) - it says normally it would be $140!!!).
One thing I didn't like is the summary of Ag now in the top left corner. To me it is harder to track if it is actually going up for each game as it only shows rounded millions now?? At one stage I didn't think it was doing anything but it might just have been me?
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Post by Russel on Jun 1, 2017 8:25:24 GMT -5
Hi Russel, But its buffed by 15%. Overall a big buff Well, I'd say it's complicated. If you are at Olympics - and doing target shooting - then yes, it is a huge buff. But in actual game decreased fire speed means that you are exposing yourself more to the enemy (at 300 m maximum range, mind you!), so it is like indirect nerf against Orkan-bearing bots.
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Post by every1jockzjay on Jun 1, 2017 8:26:40 GMT -5
I was about to hangup my butch, my first camper bot, then heard about rocket buff... even with only playing two games i noticed less shielded bots... curios to see how the meta will play out, i also decided to ditch a thork lance for a rog
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Post by Russel on Jun 1, 2017 8:28:58 GMT -5
Well, if you look real close you will notice that Orkan now shoots slower. It used to be 3.2 second to unload full clip, and now it is ~3.4 full clip Pix had been doing things like that for ages. They pass off needs as buffs this way. Punishers have been getting nerfed for every one of their "buffs",because "negative tradeoff" is apparently Russian for "Buff" Tried to use punisher so many times I am tired already. For now it's only use is to disable Ancile imo
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Post by Russel on Jun 1, 2017 8:33:13 GMT -5
Future weapon set for War Robots (I know, I know, this was said before, but never saw actual photo)
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Post by T34 on Jun 1, 2017 8:33:44 GMT -5
Hi Russel, But its buffed by 15%. Overall a big buff Well, I'd say it's complicated. If you are at Olympics - and doing target shooting - then yes, it is a huge buff. But in actual game decreased fire speed means that you are exposing yourself more to the enemy (at 300 m maximum range, mind you!), so it is like indirect nerf against Orkan-bearing bots. Don't think it's complicated. Not gonna do the math now but I bet the orks now unload more damage in 3.2 secs than they did before.
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Post by Dejnov on Jun 1, 2017 8:34:21 GMT -5
Overall I like it. More rockets less brit bots, which will swing back in a couple of weeks. Right now everyone is trying out the rockets and seeing what type of impact it has.
I believe that it's not as big a deal as everyone is making it out to be (other than the RDB Griffin, which got a huge increase in capability).
Dejnov.
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Post by Russel on Jun 1, 2017 8:42:17 GMT -5
Well, I'd say it's complicated. If you are at Olympics - and doing target shooting - then yes, it is a huge buff. But in actual game decreased fire speed means that you are exposing yourself more to the enemy (at 300 m maximum range, mind you!), so it is like indirect nerf against Orkan-bearing bots. Don't think it's complicated. Not gonna do the math now but I bet the orks now unload more damage in 3.2 secs than they did before. Too bad you only hear what you want to hear. I was not talking about _DEALING_ damage, I was talking about _RECEIVING_ it.
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Post by pirateb0t on Jun 1, 2017 9:01:17 GMT -5
I noticed my gareth seems to swivel faster. I don't know if this is just my imagination or what but he seems more nimble post update. I don't see what the fuss is about. Gary's and galahads were usually always toast against well placed rockets. I was never able to survive a direct salvo from a rdb or do for that matter. The buffs didnt change that however I can feel my gary has actually gotten stronger since I use orkan/pinata. Ive been able to do quite well post update in diamond play.
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Jun 1, 2017 9:06:41 GMT -5
I've played a handful of games. Brought DB Griff out of hanger and it's much easy to play.
Apart from more rockets haven't felt much difference.
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Post by LITu2 on Jun 1, 2017 9:12:56 GMT -5
I played tonight and downed a couple of Garys and Griffs with Piñatas & Tulus. I like the rocket buff because I think it will level the playing field. I haven't had the gold to buy Britbots even if I'd wanted to so I've always felt at a disadvantage to them.
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Post by MCYL on Jun 1, 2017 9:14:23 GMT -5
I played tonight and downed a couple of Garys and Griffs with Piñatas & Tulus. I like the rocket buff because I think it will level the playing field. I haven't had the gold to buy Britbots even if I'd wanted to so I've always felt at a disadvantage to them. The damage buff for pins and Tumbalas is good, the constant reload just dumbs it down.
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Post by LITu2 on Jun 1, 2017 9:18:46 GMT -5
The Tulu feels a bit like an Orkan now. By "dumbs down" do you mean you don't have to wait for a reload, or think more carefully before firing off a load?
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Post by inspirace on Jun 1, 2017 9:22:11 GMT -5
I heard all that "britbots now dead" talks, so I replaced my plasmahad (10/10) with RDB griff (9/7.5, upgrading). RDB was surely more fun to play, but I feel games are still decided by ancilots and plasmahads coming out in mass later in the game. when multiple ancilots rushing to beacons not sure what I can do with a RDB griff. maybe I should keep the plasmahad as the last stage bot against ancilots,
the best moment so far was when my PDB griff was pairing up with a blue RDB, me at the front and he in the backseat. we killed quite a few griffs and leos in Canyon and captured and defended (for a short time) a beacon right in front of the red spawn
Orkan rogatka, my opening bot in many maps, seems doing better, it brings down lances and rhinos more easily than before. now I realize that this orkan rog mat a lance or rhino at the initial beacon-capture encounters. before they were all gareth/galahads,
ps. I hate new designs. rockets all look like bento boxes,
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Post by MCYL on Jun 1, 2017 9:22:45 GMT -5
The Tulu feels a bit like an Orkan now. By "dumbs down" do you mean you don't have to wait for a reload, or think more carefully before firing off a load? In the past I could get a lot of bad pilots to prematurely fire their rockets or time a jump so that none of them hits. Now they can lift off the trigger wait for you to land and fire off the remainder. I loved the Tumbalas in the past because I was accurate with them and usually got an accurate lead. Now it rewards skill less.
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Post by LITu2 on Jun 1, 2017 9:26:45 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by Russel on Jun 1, 2017 10:10:41 GMT -5
The Tulu feels a bit like an Orkan now. By "dumbs down" do you mean you don't have to wait for a reload, or think more carefully before firing off a load? In the past I could get a lot of bad pilots to prematurely fire their rockets or time a jump so that none of them hits. Now they can lift off the trigger wait for you to land and fire off the remainder. I loved the Tumbalas in the past because I was accurate with them and usually got an accurate lead. Now it rewards skill less. 100% agree. It is now harder to play peek-a-boo with my light bots. However it is now easier to push "lock target" in battle and NOT to launch your entire clip by misclick =)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 10:12:51 GMT -5
Hate it. Tulumbas, Pins, Orkans and Pinatas were already powerful weapons. If anything, they needed to be nerfed, not buffed.
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Post by MCYL on Jun 1, 2017 10:17:12 GMT -5
Hate it. Tulumbas, Pins, Orkans and Pinatas were already powerful weapons. If anything, they needed to be nerfed, not buffed. I don't mind it. Any thinking player can find a way around it. Speaking of which just like that I found a way to drill pleb RDBs. 550k from one bot where I usually max out at 250. 400k from another that I usually struggle to achieve 300K. Fast learning curve > whining on forums
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Post by noobcake on Jun 1, 2017 10:18:35 GMT -5
I am reserving judgement on whether I like or dislike 2.9 for now. As everyone else has noticed:
RDB got a massive buff (and skill is not as rewarded). Britbots are weaker in this meta. Ancilot is still good. Molots and punishers are not seen (yet). Gekko is better. It remains to be seen if it is usable in the high leagues. Zeus bug is supposedly fixed and will be more effective with the weakened Brit bots. I have doubts on whether it is truly fixed.
I thought that short range would get buffed with the weakening of the Brit bots but so far I am seeing the opposite. RDB grifffins are the bot to beat and Zeus will soon make a comeback.
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Post by amidf on Jun 1, 2017 10:28:29 GMT -5
Don't think it's complicated. Not gonna do the math now but I bet the orks now unload more damage in 3.2 secs than they did before. Too bad you only hear what you want to hear. I was not talking about _DEALING_ damage, I was talking about _RECEIVING_ it. So break off your attack after 3.2 secs instead of waiting for 3.4. You'll do more damage than you did before. -Amid
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Post by adrenachrome on Jun 1, 2017 10:46:56 GMT -5
I like it. Good call pix. The way I see it. If you didn't run rockets before,you are not going to go buy all rocket weapons and level them all now. If you didn't use rockets before... You still won't. If you had rockets moth balled and pulled them out now... Then that sounds like a good thing. I just had a Rocket griff shoot all his rockets and miss. I then advanced and killed him. No big change. Thank you pix
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Post by zman on Jun 1, 2017 11:11:49 GMT -5
I like it. My Puncillots(Ancille/PunisherT) got better. Definitely looking for the added damage vs shields coming in the future. Rocket buffs aids unshielded platforms in the mean time its easier to hurt the unshielded bots. Win win.
I had six Orkans on a Rog and two Griffins. I actually dropped the Orkans off my Rog and put my Tums back on and am happy with the change. I think the Orkan change is a bit much, but manageable, I feel the unload speed needs to be slowed down a touch, maybe 4s unload. It favors more mobile bots and knocks the brit bots down a touch which was probably needed.
I was running Orkan/Aphid on my Griffins since the Moon map dropped, but since it feels like Moon is now as common as the other maps and the Gekkos got buffed I went back to them.
So, with the changes I got to revert back to my old hanger and every single weapon I use got buffed outside my two Ancilles. Makes me quite happy. I played this morning and my league score was slowly climbing despite being fairly under leveled for Masters.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Jun 1, 2017 11:36:06 GMT -5
Ugly models. And a dip in the skill needed on the battlefield. I'll adapt, but I'll miss some of the little tricks and bluffs and thought you needed to put into fighting your bot correctly.
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