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Post by Deadalready on Dec 14, 2016 0:26:26 GMT -5
What is "Trash Gold?", I hear this thrown around a bit and would like to understand what it is and how it exists?
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 14, 2016 0:29:35 GMT -5
What is "Trash Gold?", I hear this thrown around a bit and would like to understand what it is and how it exists? well 6/8 heavies is high silver, and ~8/10 heavies is low gold.. so anything between that I suppose  |
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Post by Muhlakai on Dec 14, 2016 1:10:41 GMT -5
6/6 will toss you up there occasionally if you're unlucky, always if you've got a high win %, or most of the time if squadding.
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Post by Deadalready on Dec 14, 2016 2:33:36 GMT -5
Why is it called Trash Gold?
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 14, 2016 2:34:57 GMT -5
Because its in between low gold and high silver. I often see trash gold players while running my low gold hangar though.
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Post by B30RLL on Dec 14, 2016 5:39:13 GMT -5
I thought it had something to do with how it's the tier where you can find 'trashy' hangers (2-3 slots, bot leveled too fast, mix match weaps etc)
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Post by Muhlakai on Dec 14, 2016 11:09:51 GMT -5
b30rll is right. Hangars are still mostly nonsense in trash gold, but with Gold-like levels. Players aren't quite as good as their bots in trash Gold, as a rule.
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Post by miatahead on Dec 14, 2016 13:29:54 GMT -5
I suspect what people call 'trash gold' is a mix of non-wiki formula leveling of high silver and low gold bots. So something like 8/6 leos and griffins with off-kilter weapon loadouts. Even some non-level 30 players.
I have an iOS account that I play casually (when not on wifi) and it is stuck silver strapped in 9/9 land. So I'll bounce all over the place, from trash gold to maxed hangers.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Dec 15, 2016 0:32:37 GMT -5
I would agree with above responses. I am 6/7.5 heavys with a Galahad & Carnage, I do see a fair amount of FrAnken-Hangers!
Mixed hangers with 1-2 gold bots along with other bots that dont balance.
Non 3p lvl pilots with upgraded heavys past weps levels etc....
When running solo you can get quite a random battle mix of bots! Creates some very unbalanced battles.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Dec 15, 2016 1:21:45 GMT -5
Thrash gold because its almost Gold, but still not there yet. Too many thrash hangars and noobs in that tier.
Plus you also get thrashed around pretty much, ie. sometimes you face max hangars and get blown away, or sometimes you face a bunch of campers and win the game without doing anything.
Typically its 6/7 to 6/9. Between High Silver and Low Gold.
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Post by blueraider on Dec 15, 2016 2:26:48 GMT -5
It's about where I am at the moment. The tier name makes perfect sense. I saw a Rhino with 1 CRV, 1 Mag, 1 Hydra and a Molot T!!!
Too much cannon fodder in this tier lol.
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Post by JstKnwImThad on Dec 15, 2016 2:32:26 GMT -5
First time I've heard of this term honestly. But from what the other guys are describing I think it's a grey area between 2 distinct tiers but in this case between gold and silver tiers. I think this grey area exists between every distinct tier correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by zeus on Dec 15, 2016 2:58:12 GMT -5
Damn, I thought I'm one tier from low gold, but as high silver 6/8, I still have to traverse more noob lands to reach 8/10 low gold.
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Post by B30RLL on Dec 15, 2016 3:07:21 GMT -5
I saw a Rhino with 1 CRV, 1 Mag, 1 Hydra and a Molot T!!! Yes, the exotic 'swiss army knife' rhino - abundant in trash gold jungle! When they are on blue tho... T_T |
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Post by zeus on Dec 15, 2016 3:08:34 GMT -5
I saw a Rhino with 1 CRV, 1 Mag, 1 Hydra and a Molot T!!! Yes, the exotic 'swiss army knife' rhino - abundant in trash gold jungle! When they are on blue tho... T_T That's the problem, they are always on blue. |
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Post by moody on Dec 15, 2016 4:30:16 GMT -5
Yes, the exotic 'swiss army knife' rhino - abundant in trash gold jungle! When they are on blue tho... T_T That's the problem, they are always on blue. Always on somebody's blue... I am definitely in trash gold. just saw a thunder magnum Natasha take out a (get this) thunder, trident, magnum, spiral Nataha. |
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Post by Curry Pot on Dec 16, 2016 0:07:11 GMT -5
First time I've heard of this term honestly. But from what the other guys are describing I think it's a grey area between 2 distinct tiers but in this case between gold and silver tiers. I think this grey area exists between every distinct tier correct me if I'm wrong. Actually, there is no grey area between low silver and everything above; go above 4/9 medium or 4/12 light and you're out. Also, the entire section of the game above low silver is one single grey area, and 6/6 bots can easily land in games with maxed out ones, although this does not happen commonly. There are no distinct tiers past low silver, but major mismatches, while definitely possible, are the exception rather than the rule, and MM gives fairly even matches when the player population is high enough, which lends to the impression of higher tiers. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 16, 2016 2:01:21 GMT -5
First time I've heard of this term honestly. But from what the other guys are describing I think it's a grey area between 2 distinct tiers but in this case between gold and silver tiers. I think this grey area exists between every distinct tier correct me if I'm wrong. Actually, there is no grey area between low silver and everything above; go above 4/9 medium or 4/12 light and you're out. Also, the entire section of the game above low silver is one single grey area, and 6/6 bots can easily land in games with maxed out ones, although this does not happen commonly. There are no distinct tiers past low silver, but major mismatches, while definitely possible, are the exception rather than the rule, and MM gives fairly even matches when the player population is high enough, which lends to the impression of higher tiers. i only really see maxed hangars in my low gold hangar that have a 35% or under winrate, or occasionally if I am platooning with 1 or more friends. |
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Post by mechbond on Dec 16, 2016 2:39:27 GMT -5
I would agree with above responses. I am 6/7.5 heavys with a Galahad & Carnage, I do see a fair amount of FrAnken-Hangers! Mixed hangers with 1-2 gold bots along with other bots that dont balance. Non 3p lvl pilots with upgraded heavys past weps levels etc.... When running solo you can get quite a random battle mix of bots! Creates some very unbalanced battles. What level are your medium bots/their weapons? |
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Post by mechbond on Dec 16, 2016 2:40:59 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out a sweet spot for trash gold for mediums. Would it be 9/9 or at least 8/9? Anyone have any insight?
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Dec 16, 2016 3:17:45 GMT -5
I would agree with above responses. I am 6/7.5 heavys with a Galahad & Carnage, I do see a fair amount of FrAnken-Hangers! Mixed hangers with 1-2 gold bots along with other bots that dont balance. Non 3p lvl pilots with upgraded heavys past weps levels etc.... When running solo you can get quite a random battle mix of bots! Creates some very unbalanced battles. What level are your medium bots/their weapons? mechbond, This is my current hanger. I actually just finished leveling Galahad to level 7. Have not played with the upgrade, but will be shortly. I routinely swap bots around. I have been running a 3rd Griffin rdb, swapp out w Rhino. Also, my newest bot is Carnage, so playing & leveling has kept it active in my hanger. Attachment DeletedRight now I see the same range of I thinke high silver to low gold. I see enough mix of 9-10 level weps on 6-7-8-9-10 heavies that I assume with WS bots and win rate moving me up in tier? With meds at 7, I am finishing leveling all weps to 8, 7-8 upgrades left. I will then upgrade weps to 9 then medium bot 8, heavies to 7 etc... |
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Post by B30RLL on Dec 16, 2016 3:45:31 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out a sweet spot for trash gold for mediums. Would it be 9/9 or at least 8/9? Anyone have any insight? Not a MM expert, but just from my own experience: Galahad/carnage/fujin get 'penalty' and rate on par with heavies - probably around 6/9 or 7/8 is trash gold for them, and are the most common med bots in the tier Golem/Vityaz/Rog die pretty quickly. Wouldn't recommend using them in trash gold Patton - aphid is the only variation that would work. I've seen up to 7/10 aphid pattons (9/9 would be low gold i think) Boa - similar levels as patton but should start phasing it out. Doesn't last as long as it used to |
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