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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on May 22, 2017 5:46:47 GMT -5
What would I do without Blastronaut to brighten my days... Nah man. Don't bam the tankers and the hackers and the shameless, self promoting Leophites.... Wait that last one was me. Anyway. Where is Blast lately anyway? Or is it I that hath not been present amongst mine contemporaries? Hey how do you tag someone? Blastronaut is currently banned for a week. To answer the question about hypothetical votes: There have been enough polls about tanking and if you see them, the results have not been that far skewed enough to move the A&M Team to change their stance at this time. In fact, everytime it comes up, the tankers come out in full force to vote. LOL I like you because of your Avatar. I bought the entire DVD collection of Star Trek Next Generation at a yard sale. The boxes had water damage but the Dvds were mint. It had never been opened. Since I bought a lawn chair and a Tupperware shop storage container the dude gave em to me. I reluctantly put the first disk in... Me being a Star Wars guy, not a Trekkie. Let's just say 6 Seasons into it, I love the hell out me some Next Gen. What'd that doucher Blast do to get banned? Sleep with one of the mods mothers? Oh BTW, I figured out why you folks have left my %50 ban bar permanently on my profile... So you can summarily ban me without having to give me a warning first.... 「illegitimate child」s!
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Post by piginapoke on May 22, 2017 5:47:00 GMT -5
The basic premise of the OP's statement is flawed. There is no 'collective opinion' on a forum like this. There are only opinions, some of which are agreed with by the majority, some are not. Long may that live, otherwise, what's the point? You are half right. There is no collective opinion YET. That is wthat the OP is asking for; an expression of a collective opinion about the issue. That way the admins will have a clear guidline of what to do or what is expected of them etc c and oy oy oy to be honest do we even want to go there? I mean do we even want to bother about tankers and clubbers? We know they suck golf-balls through garden hoses but, so what?
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Post by sethile on May 22, 2017 5:47:42 GMT -5
I don't tank. I never left a battle until LQ was created.
But I do not agree with the notion that using in game mechanics is cheating.
I dislike Tankers when I'm in NQ. They don't affect me in LQ.
Cheating or exploiting requires a manipulation. Engaging a mode on your device to trigger a bug is an example.
Maximising behaviour is not cheating. Since in game mechanics allow it and since MM rewards it, Tankers by one definition are doing it right.
Playing with different social standards does not mean those that play differently are cheaters.
I think corner shooting is unfair and all those that do it are cheaters. Real mech pilots stand in the open and don't cower like peons.
I think that all gold weapons and gold bots are cheaters. Communism and father Stalin teach us that we should all be on a level playing field. Ban those that employ gold bots. They are ruining my gaming. Cheaters...
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Post by elcheapo on May 22, 2017 5:50:55 GMT -5
This only depend on whose team the tanker/leaver is on . I appreciate any trolls who mess up the enemy team and score me a cheap win .
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Post by Alanbit on May 22, 2017 6:00:42 GMT -5
English is not my primary language, but I seem to remember "collective" to have a broader and more varied meaning than just "single minded borg style". I seem to recall collective to be a synonymous of aggregated, in the context of the OP meaning an opinion exemplifying the prevalent sentiment of the community formed by collecting those of the individual members. English isn't my mother language either, so correct me if I missunderstood your statement. You are somehow defensing "collective", enriching the concept with terms as "aggregated", opossing its concept statements like "single minded borg style"... ... And yet you're claiming to ban certain people for having other way of living. Sorry, but it makes no sense, it doesn't seem to me the paradigm of coherence...
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Post by SuperHero on May 22, 2017 6:35:53 GMT -5
Blastronaut is currently banned for a week. To answer the question about hypothetical votes: There have been enough polls about tanking and if you see them, the results have not been that far skewed enough to move the A&M Team to change their stance at this time. In fact, everytime it comes up, the tankers come out in full force to vote. LOL I like you because of your Avatar. I bought the entire DVD collection of Star Trek Next Generation at a yard sale. The boxes had water damage but the Dvds were mint. It had never been opened. Since I bought a lawn chair and a Tupperware shop storage container the dude gave em to me. I reluctantly put the first disk in... Me being a Star Wars guy, not a Trekkie. Let's just say 6 Seasons into it, I love the hell out me some Next Gen. What'd that doucher Blast do to get banned? Sleep with one of the mods mothers? Oh BTW, I figured out why you folks have left my %50 ban bar permanently on my profile... So you can summarily ban me without having to give me a warning first.... ?illegitimate child?s! I'm a fan of both SW and ST. I like sci-fi in general and I see the appeal of both genres. We should have a thread just talking about this! Blast did something simple. He broke the rules. LOL. #vague&mysterious And actually we never intentionally leave a warning status on anyone. It usually happens when we are so busy with life that we lose track of all this. If ur 30 days are up, just PM one of us and we will gladly remove it. Sorry for the oversight. ?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 6:39:45 GMT -5
I believe Strayed ran a poll on this before. The final decision was no. I really don't think Tankers should be banned from the forum. They are breaking no rules un the forum, only the implied rules in War Robots.
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Post by Insane Demon on May 22, 2017 6:45:39 GMT -5
I wish there was a "Hell No" option. Since this isn't officially a Pixonic forum, exploiters shouldn't be banned.
I get that Dredd and other players want to maintain a "good relationship" with Pixonic, but you should always side with fellow players over developers.
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Post by Insane Demon on May 22, 2017 6:49:57 GMT -5
This only depend on whose team the tanker/leaver is on . I appreciate any trolls who mess up the enemy team and score me a cheap win . Lmao I'm at work laughing.
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Post by Paps on May 22, 2017 6:50:30 GMT -5
No ban. Just my opinion.
Just cause there's an acre of folks doin' it, doesn't make me more inclined to.
Hasn't this dead horse been beaten to paste already? Holy hell.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 22, 2017 6:51:29 GMT -5
I wish there was a "Hell No" option. Since this isn't officially a Pixonic forum, exploiters shouldn't be banned. You appear to be confusing "private forum" with "public service." I'm okay with leaving the discussion up, but as admin's already said, we do draw lines.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on May 22, 2017 7:29:48 GMT -5
As much as I loath tankers and have no use for them, I voted no.
There is too much living in confirmation bias bubbles these days, here and in the real world.
Opposite sides of coins need to be able to engage each other, as little as it appears to do.
Once all communication dies, hope of reconciliation dies.
Also, a very small subset of tankers may tank hoping to help drive it to the point where Pix sits up and does something real about it. I was like that in a game I used to play. You could exploit the hell out of it. So aggravating. I finally decided to All out exploit it to make it unignorable. I got all my accounts banned. Nothing was done about the exploit. No one cared when I made new accounts. I decided the game was a lost cause and stopped playing it. It has withered away to a tiny shadow of its old player base. My actions accomplished nothing. My conclusion was that that was the wrong way to go about things there, and I believe that same path here is also wrong. So I f we ban all tankers, we will never hear why they do it and what little effect we may have upon changing this game for the better is lessened. JMO
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Post by FRΞΞDØM☆F1GHTΞR on May 22, 2017 7:49:00 GMT -5
Absolutely not.
Just because I don't like what someone has to say, doesn't mean they should be silenced.
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Post by SuperHero on May 22, 2017 8:34:49 GMT -5
I wish there was a "Hell No" option. Since this isn't officially a Pixonic forum, exploiters shouldn't be banned. I get that Dredd and other players want to maintain a "good relationship" with Pixonic, but you should always side with fellow players over developers. Lol. Have you seen the amount of complaining and slamming of Pix that goes on in this forum? Even in the mods and admins get in on it. And you obviously didn't hear the roundtable Dredd and I were a part of where literally everyone tore Pix a new one. and regarding siding with players over devs, this isn't what is happening here. It's not players vs devs. its players vs players. So what's ur solution to that? Civil war? Pix doesn't call the shots here. And this question was being raised by another player upset about another group of players.
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Post by lilryry on May 22, 2017 8:36:00 GMT -5
"-Posting information that can be used to cheat, hack, or exploit the game in ways other than the intent of the designers" Not sure it's cheating, but surely I would say tanking is so exploitative that the developers felt the need to intervene, altho very clumsily so far. Isn't it? clumsily would be an understatement...hell the current system encourages and rewards tanking
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Post by mechtout on May 22, 2017 8:39:21 GMT -5
No, don't really give a 「dookie」 if they tank or not, i put it on pix
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Post by lilryry on May 22, 2017 8:39:38 GMT -5
Disappear, no. Contributing in dampening it? I think so. How much so? That I don't know, but a little would be already something. Having people glorifying a criminal behaviour makes that behaviour more common, there's plenty of empirical evidence about it. Again, that's the reason why most legal systems makes that a crime. where do you live that glorifying criminal behavior is a crime? In America it's everywhere from movies to hip hop culture and people are cashing in on it
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Post by Insane Demon on May 22, 2017 8:41:07 GMT -5
I wish i could block moderators. I'm tired of scrolling by the pink names.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 22, 2017 8:42:33 GMT -5
I wish there was a "Hell No" option. Since this isn't officially a Pixonic forum, exploiters shouldn't be banned. I get that Dredd and other players want to maintain a "good relationship" with Pixonic, but you should always side with fellow players over developers. Lol. Have you seen the amount of complaining and slamming of Pix that goes on in this forum? Even in the mods and admins get in on it. And you obviously didn't hear the roundtable Dredd and I were a part of where literally everyone tore Pix a new one. and regarding siding with players over devs, this isn't what is happening here. It's not players vs devs. its players vs players. So what's ur solution to that? Civil war? Pix doesn't call the shots here. And this question was being raised by another player upset about another group of players. I'm approaching the conclusion that Insane Demon simply sees facts as things that get in the way of a good snark.
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Post by 0ppressor on May 22, 2017 9:26:22 GMT -5
Nope. Only people that should be banned are ones that hack game code for unfair advantage.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on May 22, 2017 11:16:14 GMT -5
where do you live that glorifying criminal behavior is a crime? In America it's everywhere from movies to hip hop culture and people are cashing in on it Not in America. And if you can't tell where do i live by looking at my nick, you are more hopeless than I thought.
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Post by Dredd77 on May 22, 2017 11:18:35 GMT -5
where do you live that glorifying criminal behavior is a crime? In America it's everywhere from movies to hip hop culture and people are cashing in on it Not in America. And if you can't tell where do i live by looking at my nick, you are more hopeless than I thought. Middle Earth?
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on May 22, 2017 11:22:58 GMT -5
Not in America. And if you can't tell where do i live by looking at my nick, you are more hopeless than I thought. Middle Earth? I wish. If I get to choose, Grey Havens, please, where all the interesting people pass by at least once. And that'd make me an elf, hence immortal, too, as an added bonus. But kudos for identifying correctly the language of origin of the first part of the name. Edit: hint for Lilly: the second part, it's the second part
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Post by llama4president on May 22, 2017 11:33:21 GMT -5
Oh BTW, I figured out why you folks have left my %50 ban bar permanently on my profile... So you can summarily ban me without having to give me a warning first.... ?illegitimate child?s! That's called the Schrödinger's Rat! unless we observe you carefully, you are banned and not banned at the same time
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on May 22, 2017 11:36:18 GMT -5
English is not my primary language, but I seem to remember "collective" to have a broader and more varied meaning than just "single minded borg style". I seem to recall collective to be a synonymous of aggregated, in the context of the OP meaning an opinion exemplifying the prevalent sentiment of the community formed by collecting those of the individual members. English isn't my mother language either, so correct me if I missunderstood your statement. You are somehow defensing "collective", enriching the concept with terms as "aggregated", opossing its concept statements like "single minded borg style"... ... And yet you're claiming to ban certain people for having other way of living. Sorry, but it makes no sense, it doesn't seem to me the paradigm of coherence... A) your argument is a non sequitur of immane proportion B) I'm not defending and opposing any of those terms you mentioned, I was explaining the definition of a term I had used and was being misunderstood. I tend to defend concepts, idea, point of views and sides of arguments, the words are not, usually, concepts themselves, but building blocks of a sentence, carrying a meaning. Do you usually defend bricks?
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Post by Poopface on May 22, 2017 11:49:49 GMT -5
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Post by Alanbit on May 22, 2017 11:58:13 GMT -5
A) your argument is a non sequitur of immane proportion B) I'm not defending and opposing any of those terms you mentioned, I was explaining the definition of a term I had used and was being misunderstood. I tend to defend concepts, idea, point of views and sides of arguments, the words are not, usually, concepts themselves, but building blocks of a sentence, carrying a meaning. Do you usually defend bricks?
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Post by SunTsu on May 22, 2017 13:51:03 GMT -5
And take away all the potential content associated with making fun of folks that exploit? No way, let them stay!
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Post by llama4president on May 22, 2017 14:16:53 GMT -5
where do you live that glorifying criminal behavior is a crime? In America it's everywhere from movies to hip hop culture and people are cashing in on it Not in America. And if you can't tell where do i live by looking at my nick, you are more hopeless than I thought. Years of Berlusconi, and the average Italian way of thinking of "outsmarting" the system, seem to both prove your point (where seeing a way to cheat diffuses the problem), but also disprove the part where do you live it's prohibited to glorify criminal behaviour. Apart apology of Fascism/Nazism, Holocaust Negation, and Pedophily, i don't think in Italy there is any protection vs the glorifying of criminal behaviour. Actually it's pretty diffused (think tax evasion, bankruptcy, the various economical magic tricks, etc)
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Post by make7upyours on May 22, 2017 14:25:29 GMT -5
I don't agree with tanking but don't think they should be banned or punished. It's behavior to be criticized but it's not illegal. Judging and punishing them is too much of a slippery slope.
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