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Post by CravenSouls on May 20, 2017 7:06:55 GMT -5
I've played with them and watched videos. So far, I'm not impressed. Maybe I'm missing the value, but I don't think they are very useful.
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Post by Golden Sabre on May 20, 2017 7:19:47 GMT -5
Blasphemy! The only pilots I see NOT liking them are the snipers.....just my 2 cents
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 10:20:15 GMT -5
Fun in the test server.. Not sure I'd like them in the actual game. You spend all this time and a little money building up bots in your hangar. Then have some new darty sucker come along and screw things up. Heck maybe they should open a 6th slot for another bot in the match. You'll need your own zippy slot.
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Post by crave1ne on May 20, 2017 11:15:27 GMT -5
I have yet to play any of them. Can't seem to get on Test Server. I've signed up numerous times but never make the cut I guess. I have watched a ton of videos about them.. I honestly can't stand the design, I hate the way they look. And not very impressed with the animation and dash. I'm sure my hangar will mean nothing once they drop. And I'll be forced to purchase at least one to stay competitive. But, so far, unimpressed. That might change if I ever get a chance to play with one.
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Post by infraviolet on May 20, 2017 11:21:55 GMT -5
Blasphemy! The only pilots I see NOT liking them are the snipers.....just my 2 cents Campers getting uncomfortable is never a bad thing. |
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Post by Shooty McRobot on May 20, 2017 11:27:04 GMT -5
I've played them a lot on the test server and I just can't really get into them. Certainly I've been killed by them my share of times though, so they are viable bots. I like the light one best. It's like a horizontal Rogatka. I think its speed + its dash function make it a crazy harasser/dogfighter combo, and with two Orkans or Tarans, he'll mess you up while he darts around. This guy gets behind enemy lines and causes chaos. The medium seems the most formidable, just because three medium points and the ancile. Obviously speed is a tradeoff, but it's a reasonable trade. I never found a good use for the heavy one. I don't understand that weird hard shield or what all exactly it blocks, given how high it sits. And I never liked the Ecu dynamic, and this is basically a permanent Ecu. I'm not interested in turning away to absorb shots and not being able to fight back.
I imagine what would happen is that people who are a lot more methodical than me would put these things through their paces much more methodically and find their best uses and strategies. I'm sure they could be viable members of any hangar, but currently I'm not exactly wowed by them enough to want to replace what I've got. Also I'm not sure if they were intended to counter something. Maybe Trident Furies? Like maybe if the shells start coming your way, you dart away and make them waste it and you close in on them via zig zag? I guess they don't have to be a counter to something, but I'm just wondering.
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Post by creepshow on May 20, 2017 11:36:30 GMT -5
Been lurking the forum for a while, finally registered to reply to this. I've been playing with the dash bots on the test server for a while and these are my thoughts; none of the dash bots feel OP at all at their current balance levels. The MK3 is basically a griffin on a horizontal axis, the MK2 (formerly an insane beast) is now pretty similar to a carnage, and the MK1 is like someone put a geps legs on a rog and taught it to juke. I think their impact on the meta will be overstated at first, but I don't think they will ever reach the level of saturation and dominance that the Brit bots have. All that said, I'm getting a MK1 for sure. It is a blast to play
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Post by drake1588 on May 20, 2017 11:47:36 GMT -5
They seemed great in the first incarnation. The dash made sense. In all the videos I've seen since, the dash was changed to be almost like a weird teleport and is severely immersion breaking for me. Really hoping it reverts back to the carnage/lance style speed increase it started as.
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Post by Firebeard on May 20, 2017 12:12:29 GMT -5
So, the "Dash" is lateral? .. OK, I'm interested.
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Post by every1jockzjay on May 20, 2017 12:28:13 GMT -5
I also enjoyed the way the dashed to start... a foward jump, makes sence... the new teleport jump is just stupid and makes me not want them around lol
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Post by Thunderkiss on May 20, 2017 13:01:31 GMT -5
I've played with them and watched videos. So far, I'm not impressed. Maybe I'm missing the value, but I don't think they are very useful. Lol, I can't make a response here without it coming off as insulting, so I'll just say that if you don't like the dash bots you're doing it very, very wrong. |
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Post by Stooge on May 20, 2017 13:07:19 GMT -5
I just wonder what will happen to Fujin if these dash bots get implemented in the game. One of them has an Ancile shield like Fujin, but it can also move with it like carnage, while stile retaining three medium slots. Are they gonna buff Fujin? Are they gonna change the Dash Bot's weapon slots? It just seems weird in my opinion.
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Post by Thunderkiss on May 20, 2017 17:58:25 GMT -5
I just wonder what will happen to Fujin if these dash bots get implemented in the game. One of them has an Ancile shield like Fujin, but it can also move with it like carnage, while stile retaining three medium slots. Are they gonna buff Fujin? Are they gonna change the Dash Bot's weapon slots? It just seems weird in my opinion. Going the way of the dodo. |
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Post by zephyr1138 on May 20, 2017 19:44:05 GMT -5
Been lurking the forum for a while, finally registered to reply to this. I've been playing with the dash bots on the test server for a while and these are my thoughts; none of the dash bots feel OP at all at their current balance levels. The MK3 is basically a griffin on a horizontal axis, the MK2 (formerly an insane beast) is now pretty similar to a carnage, and the MK1 is like someone put a geps legs on a rog and taught it to juke. I think their impact on the meta will be overstated at first, but I don't think they will ever reach the level of saturation and dominance that the Brit bots have. All that said, I'm getting a MK1 for sure. It is a blast to play Agree with you. Well stated. Just like I got Doc, I'll get the mkll just for the novelty |
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Post by rustedscrap on May 20, 2017 19:57:21 GMT -5
I build a conventional hangar in the test server to 'see' how the dash bots would affect the current meta. I found the stalker to be the best counter the the mk1 and mk2. Stalker running magnums. Also a butch running the new heavy wave weapon killed all three dash bots in short order
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on May 20, 2017 20:53:07 GMT -5
I'm liking the Mk2 - so many weapons work with this bot.
The Mk3 works, but I'd only get it with if the new medium energy weapon being tested gets offered.
IMO, the Mk2 is a game changer and perfect for the Power Runner style pilot. One thing I am certain is that the Mk2 will make many bots obsolete overnight.
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Post by Paps on May 20, 2017 20:59:19 GMT -5
While I don't like any of the new Dashes (except maaaaybe the MkI), I've resigned myself to the fact that they'll be released. Probably close to as-is on test server now. All I'm gonna say is the MkII better learn to stick to cover. Zeuseses and trebs are probably gonna get even more common and will eat em alive.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 21:11:11 GMT -5
I was viewing the mk3 as the ancilot Slayer. Hard shield absorbs ancilots plasma, and 3 tarans on the counter attack break apart lances shield and proceed to shred him. It dies to rockets. All seems balanced. Plasma ancilot will no longer be so dominating... Everyone loves mk1 and mk2, but I think the heavy becomes the real changer of the current ancilot dominated meta
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Post by 0ppressor on May 20, 2017 22:33:27 GMT -5
I was viewing the mk3 as the ancilot Slayer. Hard shield absorbs ancilots plasma, and 3 tarans on the counter attack break apart lances shield and proceed to shred him. It dies to rockets. All seems balanced. Plasma ancilot will no longer be so dominating... Everyone loves mk1 and mk2, but I think the heavy becomes the real changer of the current ancilot dominated meta I really want to like the MkIII. There are no heavy bots that continue to interest me save the Griffin and the Rhino, the Rhino being inactive to do it's abysmal speed/manueverability combination. I agree that the MkIII should've been an Ancilot killer, but I feel it falls short, as it's ECU is requires you to turn away from a target, thus negating your firepower. I understand Pix wanted to avoid simply slapping a shield right on the front as the Lancilot already has that, but as it stands, they took a good counter and built in it's own counter, just like the Rhino. I just don't see it having that big of an impact. The MkII is an Carnage Fujin offspring. I see it being spammed by aot of people desperately trying to make it work. I think it'll do just fine. The MkI is where my money is at. That thing looks like a Rogatka alternative and I love my Rogatka. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 23:08:17 GMT -5
I was viewing the mk3 as the ancilot Slayer. Hard shield absorbs ancilots plasma, and 3 tarans on the counter attack break apart lances shield and proceed to shred him. It dies to rockets. All seems balanced. Plasma ancilot will no longer be so dominating... Everyone loves mk1 and mk2, but I think the heavy becomes the real changer of the current ancilot dominated meta I really want to like the MkIII. There are no heavy bots that continue to interest me save the Griffin and the Rhino, the Rhino being inactive to do it's abysmal speed/manueverability combination. I agree that the MkIII should've been an Ancilot killer, but I feel it falls short, as it's ECU is requires you to turn away from a target, thus negating your firepower. I understand Pix wanted to avoid simply slapping a shield right on the front as the Lancilot already has that, but as it stands, they took a good counter and built in it's own counter, just like the Rhino. I just don't see it having that big of an impact. The MkII is an Carnage Fujin offspring. I see it being spammed by aot of people desperately trying to make it work. I think it'll do just fine. The MkI is where my money is at. That thing looks like a Rogatka alternative and I love my Rogatka. Fair points, but mk1 and mk2 will get chewed by plasma, like any energy shield bot... Mk3 just turns a bit, waits to ancilot runs dry, and hammers. |
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Post by 0ppressor on May 20, 2017 23:42:39 GMT -5
I really want to like the MkIII. There are no heavy bots that continue to interest me save the Griffin and the Rhino, the Rhino being inactive to do it's abysmal speed/manueverability combination. I agree that the MkIII should've been an Ancilot killer, but I feel it falls short, as it's ECU is requires you to turn away from a target, thus negating your firepower. I understand Pix wanted to avoid simply slapping a shield right on the front as the Lancilot already has that, but as it stands, they took a good counter and built in it's own counter, just like the Rhino. I just don't see it having that big of an impact. The MkII is an Carnage Fujin offspring. I see it being spammed by aot of people desperately trying to make it work. I think it'll do just fine. The MkI is where my money is at. That thing looks like a Rogatka alternative and I love my Rogatka. Fair points, but mk1 and mk2 will get chewed by plasma, like any energy shield bot... Mk3 just turns a bit, waits to ancilot runs dry, and hammers. Oh, totally agreed and thankful that MkI & II get chewed by plasma. My issue with the MkIII waiting to unleash when an Ancilot runs dry, iz that it's only a 5 sec window to unleash within. Then it has to either turn away again, killing it's firepower or continue to unleash in order to crack the Ancilot's shield(s) to get to the tootsie roll center, all the while taking straight damage itself. At any rate, Back to the original topic, I'm interested in the MKI, and rather ambivalent about the Mk II and skeptical of the Mk III. |
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Post by The VVatcher on May 20, 2017 23:44:02 GMT -5
They are the future really. Weapon slots alone makes them formidable. Add to that the ability to dash to cover when you're feeling the heat, you have something that has defensive capabilities with deadly power. I think people are thinking of jumping in with the dash, but its beauty is it can dash back to cover. Think of the way you use the Griffin jump -- you only jump in to finish.
MK2 seems to be a winner, but I think MK1 is a sleeper. MK3 seems kinda wierd though.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 0:02:22 GMT -5
Fair points, but mk1 and mk2 will get chewed by plasma, like any energy shield bot... Mk3 just turns a bit, waits to ancilot runs dry, and hammers. Oh, totally agreed and thankful that MkI & II get chewed by plasma. My issue with the MkIII waiting to unleash when an Ancilot runs dry, iz that it's only a 5 sec window to unleash within. Then it has to either turn away again, killing it's firepower or continue to unleash in order to crack the Ancilot's shield(s) to get to the tootsie roll center, all the while taking straight damage itself. At any rate, Back to the original topic, I'm interested in the MKI, and rather ambivalent about the Mk II and skeptical of the Mk III. Mmmmm... Ancilot chocolatey center.... (Read in Homer voice) Seriously though, as a veteran of many ancilot vs ancilot gunfights, every shot counts.... those 5 seconds of peace while your three tarans blaze away equate to 105k of damage.... Enough to crack that Tootsie Pop... Then u have a 3 on 2 gun advantage from there, plus ur shield. |
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Post by intruder1 on May 21, 2017 2:13:43 GMT -5
Oh, totally agreed and thankful that MkI & II get chewed by plasma. My issue with the MkIII waiting to unleash when an Ancilot runs dry, iz that it's only a 5 sec window to unleash within. Then it has to either turn away again, killing it's firepower or continue to unleash in order to crack the Ancilot's shield(s) to get to the tootsie roll center, all the while taking straight damage itself. At any rate, Back to the original topic, I'm interested in the MKI, and rather ambivalent about the Mk II and skeptical of the Mk III. Mmmmm... Ancilot chocolatey center.... (Read in Homer voice) Seriously though, as a veteran of many ancilot vs ancilot gunfights, every shot counts.... those 5 seconds of peace while your three tarans blaze away equate to 105k of damage.... Enough to crack that Tootsie Pop... Then u have a 3 on 2 gun advantage from there, plus ur shield.  Just because I couldn't get it out of my head... I have to agree, though, I am digging the light dash bot, but I'm not so keen on the medium and heavy. The off-center shield on the heavy greatly reduces utility. I like the energy shield on the medium, but its dash ability isn't nearly as impressive as the light's. I am loving the light dash with Orkans or Tarans. It is definitely on my shopping list. |
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Post by miscanthus on May 21, 2017 8:23:36 GMT -5
I like the MK1. It's speed and dash ability make it a blast to pilot. Didn't really care for MK2. Plasma and Zues Carnages should keep it under control. MK3 isn't my playstyle, but it the right hands it could be a beast.
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Post by Firebeard on May 21, 2017 10:04:06 GMT -5
Do we have Word if these will be included in the game or offered as Event Items? ..
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Post by creepshow on May 21, 2017 11:03:44 GMT -5
Do we have Word if these will be included in the game or offered as Event Items? .. Pixo stated that the purpose of the medium energy weapon prototype on the test server was an easy to aim weapon to be used by and against the dash bots. I don't think they would consider adding that sort of weapon if they were going to be event locked. This leads me to believe that they will be "in-game". |
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Post by Firebeard on May 21, 2017 11:31:11 GMT -5
Do we have Word if these will be included in the game or offered as Event Items? .. Pixo stated that the purpose of the medium energy weapon prototype on the test server was an easy to aim weapon to be used by and against the dash bots. I don't think they would consider adding that sort of weapon if they were going to be event locked. This leads me to believe that they will be "in-game". Makes logical sense. What I don't understand though, is if this new weapon is designed to counter the " Dash," then the weapon has greater potential than the Mecha. Making the "Dash" Mecha redundant. I'm still intrigued, though. Would need to see these Mecha in action to decide. |
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Post by llama4president on May 21, 2017 11:44:39 GMT -5
Blasphemy! The only pilots I see NOT liking them are the snipers.....just my 2 cents Actually i play as a brawler and i totally don't like them. They totally Ruin the War Robots Mechish immersion. It seems they are more consistent with a Final Fantasy game than a Mech one. |
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Post by Golden Sabre on May 21, 2017 11:57:58 GMT -5
Blasphemy! The only pilots I see NOT liking them are the snipers.....just my 2 cents Actually i play as a brawler and i totally don't like them. They totally Ruin the War Robots Mechish immersion. It seems they are more consistent with a Final Fantasy game than a Mech one. I can totally see where you're coming from. But as it is right now the bots are soooooo slllllooooooowwww. I have a leo that I never play and wouldnt take a Natasha if it was free, same goes for fury and lance. I don't even like my carnages and I run two of them from time to time. Slug Wars is what it should be called |
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