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Post by RightOn on Dec 11, 2016 16:54:33 GMT -5
What I find most interesting about the Aphid update is that Pixonic will continue to make gameplay changes without ever having a test server. At the same time, what goes on the test server never always goes live.
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Post by osang on Dec 12, 2016 5:39:01 GMT -5
I'm seeing a lot of Gepard, Stalker with Aphids in a higher tier.
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whitecrow666
GI. Patton
Posts: 144
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Pilot name: whitecrow666
Platform: Android
Clan: 2017 war Gods
League: Gold
Favorite robot: Gareth
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Post by whitecrow666 on Dec 13, 2016 6:13:11 GMT -5
Instead Nerfing the Aphids.
I belive they should Buff the Ancile Sheild Reacharge rate as good counter to this.
Carnage sheild the most as that should be bot to counter and kill Aphid users. Or speed buff gives full reacharge sheild to Carnages as well.
But as it is The reacharge rate is to slow the Sheild users should be usefull to teams m8s to hide next to from Aphids missies from all wepons.
The 1500 gold Ancile should be a team winning wepon.
You could also then buff Zenits etc
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Post by RightOn on Dec 13, 2016 8:43:22 GMT -5
Ancile if depleted will recharge after 10 seconds. 10s is the same time it takes for Aphids to reload. The kicker is, if the opponent uses his Aphids all at once, and it hits an Ancile at all, all damage is negated. Knowing this just fire your Aphids one at a time against the Ancile until it dissipates.
Aphids are extremely easy to dodge in a Gareth. Last night a stalker or gepard I forget was hounding on me and I just danced side to side, dodged 4 Of his flurries in a row, 0 damage taken, then my teammates just finished him off. I could have danced all night, hilarious.
Right now Aphids are extremely popular in top tier at least accounting for 1/3 (?) of the user base. Every game there is an Aphid, because I use them too...
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DRTYDAV
Destrier
Posts: 69
Karma: 43
Pilot name: DRTYDAV
Platform: Android
Clan: Wolf
League: Expert
Favorite robot: Timber Wolf
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Post by DRTYDAV on Dec 13, 2016 10:32:03 GMT -5
Without a good squad the Aphid Patton is toast unless you're in bronze or against noobs. Effective hunters will make you a priority and the Aphid Patton will need to be protected almost like a Trident Fury. It is best if you are going random to shadow another bot like a galahad, Rhino, Mag Leo, etc. use them to take point on damage and deal your own.
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Pulse Hadron
Destrier
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Pilot name: Pulse Hadron
Platform: iOS
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Dec 13, 2016 21:43:02 GMT -5
Aphids need to be buffed to reliably work though Last night an Ecu Cossack was standing still on a beacon 100m from me. I launched 3 aphids in succession, they crashed on his head, and no damage registered. Waited several seconds for possible damage lag, nope. He hopped away and my teammates with other weapons took him out. Could it have been the Ecu that blocked my aphids even though they crashed on his head?
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 14, 2016 1:50:14 GMT -5
Aphids need to be buffed to reliably work though Last night an Ecu Cossack was standing still on a beacon 100m from me. I launched 3 aphids in succession, they crashed on his head, and no damage registered. Waited several seconds for possible damage lag, nope. He hopped away and my teammates with other weapons took him out. Could it have been the Ecu that blocked my aphids even though they crashed on his head? it may very well have been. I have had absolutely no issues with aphids since the buff. I have noticed though that if you fire the aphids a bit too late after the Cossacks jump, they can simply move off at just the right time to avoid the damage. don't play War Robots when sleep deprived btw
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SwitcherLP
Destrier
Just a little bot trying to make it in a big bot's world...
Posts: 121
Karma: 80
Pilot name: Switcher Legendary Pilot
Platform: Android
Clan: [IRΩN] Formerly
League: Master
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Storm Nemesis
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Post by SwitcherLP on Dec 17, 2016 18:43:09 GMT -5
My goodness, please don't make the Aphids any better. I am not a paying player, and those things are the bane of my existence. I am stuck as a bottom rung upper silver (at least) player, trying to find my skill level (while trying to compete with my Clan. I do good as long as my mates who have shields or force fields up, covering their backs and adding secondary firepower, but on my own I get pwn'd, especially by Aphids. So many people use them and I just can't catch up to them, they frag me before I can even get close to something to take it out with me.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 17, 2016 18:46:03 GMT -5
My goodness, please don't make the Aphids any better. I am not a paying player, and those things are the bane of my existence. I am stuck as a bottom rung upper silver (at least) player, trying to find my skill level (while trying to compete with my Clan. I do good as long as my mates who have shields or force fields up, covering their backs and adding secondary firepower, but on my own I get pwn'd, especially by Aphids. So many people use them and I just can't catch up to them, they frag me before I can even get close to something to take it out with me. Hug walls and side strafe when they fire where there are no walls to minimise damage. If they are in a faster bot than you are, try to avoid the engagement, as you will likely be unable to reach them unless You take them by surprise.
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SwitcherLP
Destrier
Just a little bot trying to make it in a big bot's world...
Posts: 121
Karma: 80
Pilot name: Switcher Legendary Pilot
Platform: Android
Clan: [IRΩN] Formerly
League: Master
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Storm Nemesis
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Post by SwitcherLP on Dec 17, 2016 19:32:52 GMT -5
My goodness, please don't make the Aphids any better. I am not a paying player, and those things are the bane of my existence. I am stuck as a bottom rung upper silver (at least) player, trying to find my skill level (while trying to compete with my Clan. I do good as long as my mates who have shields or force fields up, covering their backs and adding secondary firepower, but on my own I get pwn'd, especially by Aphids. So many people use them and I just can't catch up to them, they frag me before I can even get close to something to take it out with me. Hug walls and side strafe when they fire where there are no walls to minimise damage. If they are in a faster bot than you are, try to avoid the engagement, as you will likely be unable to reach them unless You take them by surprise. That therein is the problem. I seem to always be in the wrong place at the wrong time, my hangar is 1 Leo 2mag, pin, thunder, 1 Leo thunder pinatas, 1 golem thunder, tulumbas, pin, and 1 natasha 2 gekkos 2 Kangs. Perhaps my awareness is off or I charge too quickly, but they seem to always hit me. And I do hug walls, the missiles just seem to always get around the walls or over them. My Golem is the only one that dodges sometimes.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 17, 2016 19:34:23 GMT -5
Hug walls and side strafe when they fire where there are no walls to minimise damage. If they are in a faster bot than you are, try to avoid the engagement, as you will likely be unable to reach them unless You take them by surprise. That therein is the problem. I seem to always be in the wrong place at the wrong time, my hangar is 1 Leo 2mag, pin, thunder, 1 Leo thunder pinatas, 1 golem thunder, tulumbas, pin, and 1 natasha 2 gekkos 2 Kangs. Perhaps my awareness is off or I charge too quickly, but they seem to always hit me. And I do hug walls, the missiles just seem to always get around the walls or over them. My Golem is the only one that dodges sometimes. haha I can see why you don't like aphids, 3/4 of your bots are prime aphid targets
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SwitcherLP
Destrier
Just a little bot trying to make it in a big bot's world...
Posts: 121
Karma: 80
Pilot name: Switcher Legendary Pilot
Platform: Android
Clan: [IRΩN] Formerly
League: Master
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Storm Nemesis
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Post by SwitcherLP on Dec 17, 2016 19:39:29 GMT -5
That therein is the problem. I seem to always be in the wrong place at the wrong time, my hangar is 1 Leo 2mag, pin, thunder, 1 Leo thunder pinatas, 1 golem thunder, tulumbas, pin, and 1 natasha 2 gekkos 2 Kangs. Perhaps my awareness is off or I charge too quickly, but they seem to always hit me. And I do hug walls, the missiles just seem to always get around the walls or over them. My Golem is the only one that dodges sometimes. haha I can see why you don't like aphids, 3/4 of your bots are prime aphid targets LOL I know, right? I am the ultimate homing bait. I am getting there though!
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Post by Ѕπλκε✵Σψεs on Dec 17, 2016 22:57:18 GMT -5
Power! More power!!!
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Post by Curry Pot on Dec 17, 2016 23:01:14 GMT -5
Sometimes server lag helps aphid users, and that may be something to consider. Quite often I will dodge aphids completely by jumping, but I still somehow take full damage even though I see the aphids slam into the ground several dozen meters away, nowhere near my bot.
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Rafazor
Destrier
Posts: 21
Karma: 10
Pilot name: Raf! and Rafazor
Platform: Android
Clan: Nova Rising
Favorite robot: Doc
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Post by Rafazor on Dec 20, 2016 9:49:46 GMT -5
In low silver tier a apphid patton can take out more than 60% of a enemy total HP in just one shot. Thats not fair for me. Imo they should not allow people to use a 4x aphid patton in silver. That means I think they should fix MM not nerf Aphids...
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Thump
Destrier
Posts: 74
Karma: 41
Pilot name: Thump
Platform: Android
League: Silver
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Post by Thump on Dec 20, 2016 10:42:15 GMT -5
Leave them alone. They are valuable when Reds are heavies and you have to hide to stay viable in game. Also very tricky to hit fast bots and curve correctly but rewarding when successful. They miss plenty of times against smaller bots like Cossack, Destrier, and Gepards (if they are moving). Open maps also balance them because no cover. They are Gold weapon and should be powerful.
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Post by Deadalready on Dec 20, 2016 13:26:15 GMT -5
From the sounds of it, Pix is looking at nerfing Aphids according to their latest QA
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Post by goatking219 on Dec 20, 2016 13:27:00 GMT -5
Aphids are like a blue shell, it's awesome when you have one but complete BS when you lose to one. I personally love my dual Aphid-Thunder Vityaz, and it's my main support bot for maps like Powerplant and Dead city.
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Post by osang on Dec 21, 2016 17:15:36 GMT -5
From the sounds of it, Pix is looking at nerfing Aphids according to their latest QA Losers complain because they lose. It's a gold weapon why they're gonna nerf it? I love seeing Gepard bots in a top tier. If they're going to nerf Aphids, nerf the Orkans too!
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Post by Strayed on Dec 21, 2016 17:30:27 GMT -5
Because orkans have an element of risk to them. Not only is it difficult to hit people above 200m now but you have to have direct line of sight as well. You're also screwed if the enemy is still alive when you finish firing. And they're the best close range counter to shield bots. With aphids, you can just lob them over walls for the whole match, taking practically no damage. And now, it isn't even hard to aim them anymore. IMO, they are not adding anything to the game. I for one am happy for an aphid nerf as it has gotten frustrating chasing down people who can deal more dpm than a pinata patton while hiding behind a wall.
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Post by [ധ¡к¡] oDDD on Dec 21, 2016 17:36:54 GMT -5
Been using aphids since I started basically when the buff for them was released. I started days before the Halloween event. And I like the trajectory for possible fire from cover close combat. But I honestly wouldn't mind a small nerd to its total power. And it would still remain in the meta. If that meant mediums needed 3 salvos instead of just 2, still an amazing weapon. I love my 4 aphids. But I will admit at times they feel just too damaging per salvo.
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DRTYDAV
Destrier
Posts: 69
Karma: 43
Pilot name: DRTYDAV
Platform: Android
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League: Expert
Favorite robot: Timber Wolf
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Post by DRTYDAV on Dec 27, 2016 15:08:48 GMT -5
close ranged bots are generally the most useful bots anyway I have found the aphid Patton to be ineffective if you don't have a good team on most maps, however very effective when platooning. I have had some success with the Aphid Boat, but you definitely have to know that when going random it is on you to protect yourself and to know what maps it works well on. I will start with the Aphid Patton on dead city and power plant, it will be my second choice in Canyon and Yamantau (after capping 1st) and my last choice in Springfield (unless the spawns are both in the city side) and in Shenzen it depends on my mood.
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Dec 29, 2016 1:42:09 GMT -5
Nerf the Gepard TBH, Patton Aphids arent as bad as they are slow and you can sneak up on them, Gepards on the other hand just run, jump out, shoot and hide again, really pisses me off that they can do that, nerf the speed or something IDK
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Dec 29, 2016 1:52:41 GMT -5
Aphids are more of a campers weapon than anything from what I've seen many people use them
This is for the Patton Aphid: Find cover, camp there (for example, the buildings surrounding the centre beacon on Dead City), wait for an enemy, shoot, watch health go down, repeat until he/she is dead or is not a favourable target anymore. If enemies try to attack you find more cover and do shoot until they die
This is for the Gepard Aphid: Run around, find an enemy to shoot at, shoot, find cover and wait for reload time, jump out of cover and shoot again, repeat until enemy is dead or is no longer a favourable target. If enemies try to attack you, back up (as they will likely be heavies pissed at you) and keep shooting until enemy is dead
Basically what I see most Aphid users do
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Dec 29, 2016 2:30:31 GMT -5
Aphids are more of a campers weapon than anything from what I've seen many people use them This is for the Patton Aphid: Find cover, camp there (for example, the buildings surrounding the centre beacon on Dead City), wait for an enemy, shoot, watch health go down, repeat until he/she is dead or is not a favourable target anymore. If enemies try to attack you find more cover and do shoot until they die This is for the Gepard Aphid: Run around, find an enemy to shoot at, shoot, find cover and wait for reload time, jump out of cover and shoot again, repeat until enemy is dead or is no longer a favourable target. If enemies try to attack you, back up (as they will likely be heavies pissed at you) and keep shooting until enemy is dead Basically what I see most Aphid users do better than camp at the back of the map and shoot an enemy every now and then, or camp at the back of the map behind cover (zenits XDD)
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Dec 29, 2016 2:52:17 GMT -5
Yea Aphids make you get up close and put a small sense of risk into it compared to actual legit camping, but they still are a campers weapon, for those that like camping AND want to be helpful to the team (sorry to anyone who is a legit camper xD)
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Dec 29, 2016 3:02:18 GMT -5
Yea Aphids make you get up close and put a small sense of risk into it compared to actual legit camping, but they still are a campers weapon, for those that like camping AND want to be helpful to the team (sorry to anyone who is a legit camper xD) Triggered, your avatar still isn't a Rogatka.
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Dec 29, 2016 3:45:30 GMT -5
Yea Aphids make you get up close and put a small sense of risk into it compared to actual legit camping, but they still are a campers weapon, for those that like camping AND want to be helpful to the team (sorry to anyone who is a legit camper xD) Triggered, your avatar still isn't a Rogatka. Bruh...Halloween game icon looks dope, Rogatka is...lame, plus there aren't any good Rogatka pictures and Im lazy to crop one and edit it
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Dec 29, 2016 4:10:57 GMT -5
Triggered, your avatar still isn't a Rogatka. Bruh...Halloween game icon looks dope, Rogatka is...lame, plus there aren't any good Rogatka pictures and Im lazy to crop one and edit it Taranasaurus Rog, just for you.
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Dec 29, 2016 4:48:42 GMT -5
No I dont want the most useless bot in the game to be my avatar , plus why does it looked so shocked? Probably cause it got a buff xD Plus whats with you that you keep assigning me the Rogatka profile picture?
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