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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 10:09:58 GMT -5
You'd have to be pretty bad to be in a splash Gareth and get killed by a plasma Gareth. Like really really bad, or way over-upgraded. Orkan Gareths I run into tend to chase my plasma Gareth. It's like they think 'hey I'm *supposed* to win this, come back here and die!'. So they chase me, I backpeddle their continuous Orkan dribble, eventually their shield breaks from my plasma and then *they* either eject, run away, or die. The ones that ambush you and then don't chase you are very dangerous. I guess that's me because I can't recall being killed by a plasma Gareth when I had an orkan on my shoulder. But I swapped out my Gareth for a double orkan rogatka some time ago so maybe I'm remembering what I want to ;-)
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 19, 2017 10:47:10 GMT -5
Plasma Gary for me but Hellfire isn't too bad either. i go Gary first, cap them white beacons then either take the weakest red beacon or, try & hold their attention & draw their fire while my teammates gain position. Example - Sorry it's so Raw, was only supposed to be a graphics test
Testing out some new Memu settings & Gary went for a Hail Mary!
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Post by frunobulax on Apr 19, 2017 10:52:28 GMT -5
The Plasma Gareth can backpedal the Orkan Mag/Pinata's rockets from 150m up. Sure, but my Orkan/Mag Gareth gets the beacon and holds it. Which is actually the game objective If the Plasma Gareth tries to retake the beacon, I'll kill it. If it runs, I'll intercept it after I capped the beacon. And my Mag will keep the shield of the other Gareth down, so it can't outrun me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 11:20:06 GMT -5
The Plasma Gareth can backpedal the Orkan Mag/Pinata's rockets from 150m up. Sure, but my Orkan/Mag Gareth gets the beacon and holds it. Which is actually the game objective If the Plasma Gareth tries to retake the beacon, I'll kill it. If it runs, I'll intercept it after I capped the beacon. And my Mag will keep the shield of the other Gareth down, so it can't outrun me. And then a Trident Fury comes...
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Post by Scuzzbopper on Apr 19, 2017 11:30:28 GMT -5
Plasma Gary for me but Hellfire isn't too bad either. i go Gary first, cap them white beacons then either take the weakest red beacon or, try & hold their attention & draw their fire while my teammates gain position. Example - Sorry it's so Raw, was only supposed to be a graphics test Testing out some new Memu settings & Gary went for a Hail Mary! This is glorious. Nothing like Blue up 4 beacons early in the match
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Post by frunobulax on Apr 19, 2017 12:10:10 GMT -5
Sure, but my Orkan/Mag Gareth gets the beacon and holds it. Which is actually the game objective If the Plasma Gareth tries to retake the beacon, I'll kill it. If it runs, I'll intercept it after I capped the beacon. And my Mag will keep the shield of the other Gareth down, so it can't outrun me. And then a Trident Fury comes... Yes I don't run a Gary or any other light robot in my regular hangar for precisely that reason. But the OP asked which Gary loadout was the best, so...
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Post by mijapi300 on Apr 19, 2017 17:34:31 GMT -5
That also depends on the skill of the 2 Gareth pilots. You'd have to be pretty bad to be in a splash Gareth and get killed by a plasma Gareth. Like really really bad, or way over-upgraded. It's actually the other way around. The Orkans would never hit, and the Taran will break the Orkan Gary's shield way before the plasma Gary loses its shield. A full plasma Gary would likely escape the battle victorious with some shield HP left too. This assuming both are good pilots.
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Post by Dredd77 on Apr 19, 2017 17:37:38 GMT -5
Killed two Gareths today in my Galahad. Always feels good.
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Post by mijapi300 on Apr 19, 2017 17:38:04 GMT -5
The Plasma Gareth can backpedal the Orkan Mag/Pinata's rockets from 150m up. Sure, but my Orkan/Mag Gareth gets the beacon and holds it. Which is actually the game objective If the Plasma Gareth tries to retake the beacon, I'll kill it. If it runs, I'll intercept it after I capped the beacon. And my Mag will keep the shield of the other Gareth down, so it can't outrun me. Now you're making up hypotheticals. There's no such thing as a real 1v1. No Gary setup takes and holds beacons without help. You're in a support role as a Gareth. If done properly, your support can be the deciding factor in most games. But thinking you're going to take and hold beacons by yourself because you have an Orkan is a fools errand. Never mind the fact that I'll just kill you from 200m+ away because your medium hardpoint is effectively wasted at that range. Your only option is to hide and wait for backup, unless the plasma Gareth doesn't know what they're doing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 17:39:57 GMT -5
A Gareth can certainly take a beacon without help. But holding a beacon with a Gareth is a bit questionable.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 19, 2017 17:43:09 GMT -5
A Gareth can certainly take a beacon without help. But holding a beacon with a Gareth is a bit questionable. Oh but so good for capping the same beacon 3 times in a minute if you can get the Red takes it frustrated and off his game enough to allow you to kite him around
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Post by SlowReflexes on Apr 19, 2017 17:48:27 GMT -5
A Gareth can certainly take a beacon without help. But holding a beacon with a Gareth is a bit questionable. I've had Ancile/magnum Leos try to push me off beacons. Gareth can hold off certain heavies no problem. Others, not so much.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Apr 19, 2017 18:52:12 GMT -5
Tridents. Kills Gary DEAD.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Apr 19, 2017 18:54:49 GMT -5
Tridents. Kills Gary DEAD. Whosssh, Whosssh, Whoosh...Pffttt. Bye, bye Gary.
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Post by [apotheosis] on Apr 19, 2017 19:08:44 GMT -5
Tridents. Kills Gary DEAD. So much this. Satisfying when its my trident, clearly OP when its my gary lol
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Post by Thunderkiss on Apr 19, 2017 19:58:06 GMT -5
Tridents. Kills Gary DEAD. So much this. Satisfying when its my trident, clearly OP when its my gary lol I have to say, I feel a little dirty when I see one in Canyon. Something from that black place puts a smile on my face as I push the button. ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 20:10:28 GMT -5
You'd have to be pretty bad to be in a splash Gareth and get killed by a plasma Gareth. Like really really bad, or way over-upgraded. It's actually the other way around. The Orkans would never hit, and the Taran will break the Orkan Gary's shield way before the plasma Gary loses its shield. A full plasma Gary would likely escape the battle victorious with some shield HP left too. This assuming both are good pilots. There's no way you've ever tried to kill another Gareth with a splash Gareth. For one thing most Gareth pilots AREN'T really good so they usually aren't constantly dodging your orkan effectively. But even if they are you can still usually get close enough to hit them or aim in front of them so they run into the orkan fire. Remember, you are just as fast as they are. I can kill stalkers with an orkan Gareth too. It's a pain in the neck but it can be done. It's a good reason to have a magnum with the orkan. After half the orkan misses you can finish off the staklker with the mag.
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Post by Sebenza 21 on Apr 19, 2017 21:17:53 GMT -5
+1 for the right hand slap Gary.
Fire off pinatas, use cover they come for you, back up a few seconds, use orkan, pinatas reload, give em some more close quarters loving, now they want to use cover, move on or wait till you're fully loaded and finish them.
It helps if you have blues nearby.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Apr 19, 2017 21:38:42 GMT -5
+1 for the right hand slap Gary. Fire off pinatas, use cover they come for you, back up a few seconds, use orkan, pinatas reload, give em some more close quarters loving, now they want to use cover, move on or wait till you're fully loaded and finish them. It helps if you have blues nearby. Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face
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Post by Sebenza 21 on Apr 19, 2017 21:44:21 GMT -5
Lol yer i try to avoid certain opponents.
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Post by mijapi300 on Apr 19, 2017 22:39:09 GMT -5
It's actually the other way around. The Orkans would never hit, and the Taran will break the Orkan Gary's shield way before the plasma Gary loses its shield. A full plasma Gary would likely escape the battle victorious with some shield HP left too. This assuming both are good pilots. There's no way you've ever tried to kill another Gareth with a splash Gareth. For one thing most Gareth pilots AREN'T really good so they usually aren't constantly dodging your orkan effectively. But even if they are you can still usually get close enough to hit them or aim in front of them so they run into the orkan fire. Remember, you are just as fast as they are. I can kill stalkers with an orkan Gareth too. It's a pain in the neck but it can be done. It's a good reason to have a magnum with the orkan. After half the orkan misses you can finish off the staklker with the mag. I'm talking about equally skilled Gareths. And most of the Gareths at my level are pretty good pilots. I don't think there's a single pilot above Diamond league that doesn't know to backpedal Orkans. Nobody tries to dodge them by running sideways. There's no way to "lead" your Orkans to behind your target.
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Post by =Rogue-13= on Apr 20, 2017 0:24:52 GMT -5
I've been following this thread avidly and I have picked up some ideas.
I changed my own shield bearing lunatic to: Orkan/Mag... had a few test runs- like it.
Thanks all...
ooh one further question if anyone reads this:
does gekko damage the shield? do all weapons damage the shield?
cheers!!
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Apr 20, 2017 0:55:30 GMT -5
I've been following this thread avidly and I have picked up some ideas. I changed my own shield bearing lunatic to: Orkan/Mag... had a few test runs- like it. Thanks all... ooh one further question if anyone reads this: does gekko damage the shield? do all weapons damage the shield? cheers!! all weapons damage the shield. Splash damages the shield and the bot. Also it seemed pretty effective the aphid orkan variety. I don't have aphids myself or else I will try it.
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Post by moody on Apr 21, 2017 8:05:01 GMT -5
Gary keeps winning games for me. Low damage, but getting unprotected beacons and holding up reds in given corners of the battlefield.
I know top tier probably isn't possible, but android diamond is.
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on Apr 21, 2017 8:12:20 GMT -5
> 3) I see my Gareth as an Assassin/Suicide machine... he will kill you and or die trying.
... that's how you kill them... most Gareth pilots are gung-ho, especially if it's the first bot they field, so pull them back to your team-mates, and voila, dead Gareth. :-)
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Apr 21, 2017 8:16:27 GMT -5
And then a Trident Fury comes... Yes I don't run a Gary or any other light robot in my regular hangar for precisely that reason. But the OP asked which Gary loadout was the best, so... Actually, the OP asked, what weapon would kill a Gareth the fastest. How to equip it, was the second question...
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Post by moody on Apr 21, 2017 8:18:50 GMT -5
> 3) I see my Gareth as an Assassin/Suicide machine... he will kill you and or die trying. ... that's how you kill them... most Gareth pilots are gung-ho, especially if it's the first bot they field, so pull them back to your team-mates, and voila, dead Gareth. :-) You have to know they are fragile. But they are quick enough to go the long way around. my Gary is never first out. Galahad gets beacons and other bots as per the situation. Gary comes out 4th or something to be where it is needed quick. if I come across a superior force I will take pot shots and retreat.
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Post by (°<'G'>°) on Apr 21, 2017 9:53:14 GMT -5
> 3) I see my Gareth as an Assassin/Suicide machine... he will kill you and or die trying. ... that's how you kill them... most Gareth pilots are gung-ho, especially if it's the first bot they field, so pull them back to your team-mates, and voila, dead Gareth. :-) Guilty. I drop my Gareth first and always rush head on into situations good Gareth pilots would never be in. My main goal is to distract 2 or 3 reds if I'm not chasing a beacon. I usually die fairly quickly but sometimes kill a red or 2 before they take me out. I need to change my approach(he's not Leo or Lance) but until I do, I'll just keep having fun being reckless with him! And at this level, he's a lot of fun!
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Post by (°<'G'>°) on Apr 21, 2017 9:54:26 GMT -5
This level being silver 2 where most aren't expert pilots.
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