Killing a Gareth!

My (10/9) Plasma Garath patches holes. It is usually 4th or 5th bot out and either takes late beacons or reinforces (quickly) other blues in firefights.

I don't try to take reds head on with it but know that it can survive a fair bit if needed.

I keep at that magic 300m boundry and keep my shield stowed most of the time. Adding an extra taran and magnum to what the blues are already dishing to a given opponent can work magic.

Meantime I don't care about damage gold.  I'm in the game to win.

Congratulations. 

Oh i have been into the hell of android diamond ii.  Back to gold 1 wihout tanking.  I still play to win and enjoy the challenge.  If i lose so be it at least i tried and did the best to my ability.

Ok, so you know what you're doing

Me, I might make it back to Gold 3 once I get a Brit bot (or a Rogatka, if its buff and Tulumbas upgrade land in time and are good), which probably increases my damage output without hurting beacon capture... At the moment I'm "struggling" (I wouldn't be sorry at all if I dropped) to stay in Silver 1, dropping to Silver 2 seems inevitable (though I think I'll pop right back from there if I drop).

If an "I'm playing to win" message gets such a response, you know there's something terribly wrong with the game.

That also depends on the skill of the 2 Gareth pilots. 

An astute observation.

The problem is, "prestige rewards" (league placement) is in conflict with "real rewards" (Au, Ag, having fun).

Leagues should not be used for matchmaking, because low league does not mean low skill or equpment level. Hangar based MM should still be used, but to avoid clubbing total hangar power should be calculated, so that truly about equal hangars would face each others. It wouldn't be hard to come up with hangar power calculation which would match the reality. Pix has or can get statistics on true effectiveness of different bots and weapons, and use these when calculating hangar power. Also the hangar power should be shown to players, also after battles.

Or, there should be flat Au reward for being in winning side, plus daily league based Au reward for 1st win, so there would be no point to tank, as outclassing equipment of the rest of the team (which is what tanking is all about) would not bring in extra Au.

Or something else. Just not what we have now, nor what we had last year.

Both would work, though in my personal opinion, I'd go magnum for the sustained dps, as well as the added benefit of being able to have at least one weapon that works against shielded bots, but some use pinata with orkan because the ranges match (300m), and if used correctly, can really damage other bots

Tridents - I almost feel sorry for the Garies. Almost.

Orkans/Plasma - Orkans turns your Gary into an Anti-BritBot-Bot. Plasma is the standard load out

No- It is a beacon capper Flanker/harasser. It is not meant to suicide. you are playing it wrong.

Yes, that's how I run it. One mag has enough dps to take down an unshielded light or medium robot that has protection (Carnage, Fujin), the Orkan has enough destructive power to beat other light robots that have only plasma. Also, with a Mag you can stay at 330m distance to an Orkan/Pinata robot. 

The price, however, is that it takes longer to take down enemy robots. With full plasma loadout you're quicker against Carnage/Fujin, and with full rocket layout you're taking down enemy Galahads/Garys faster. Also you risk that a skilled britbot pilot will break your shield before you get him. Stalkers depend on the skill of the opposing pilot, as it is capable to avoid rockets I prefer to use plasma there too. But overall, I think as a leadoff robot a hellfire Gary/Galahad performs better than an all-plasma version, at least in the leagues I play (hangar level between 8 and 9).

Either magnum or aphid is usually better than pinata. The mag will help with stalkers which you often run into with Gareths and the aphid reloads much quicker than pinata but does damage in the same neighborhood. 

I run my orkan/pinata gareth and i kill plasma Gareth.

Indeed. When someone sincerely warns you 'don't try too hard to win or you'll get bent over and abused' that's really bad.

When the response is 'already been bent over and abused but I'm recovered now and I still try to win' well that's both admirable and deeply, deeply disturbing.