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Post by =Rogue-13= on Apr 18, 2017 0:56:10 GMT -5
Sup war Hippies Id like your input on a few things please: 1) What weapons will kill a Gareth the quickest? 2) Gareth weapons, which do you choose and why: A- Orkan/Pinata B- Orkan/Magnum C- NO way, try this...
3) I see my Gareth as an Assassin/Suicide machine... he will kill you and or die trying. Do you have a similar or different mind set for the shielded warrior? Thank you for taking the time to answer, I look forward to reading your replies
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Post by moody on Apr 18, 2017 1:07:12 GMT -5
My (10/9) Plasma Garath patches holes. It is usually 4th or 5th bot out and either takes late beacons or reinforces (quickly) other blues in firefights.
I don't try to take reds head on with it but know that it can survive a fair bit if needed.
I keep at that magic 300m boundry and keep my shield stowed most of the time. Adding an extra taran and magnum to what the blues are already dishing to a given opponent can work magic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 1:08:11 GMT -5
1. Orkans 2. B. Because I always run into other Gareths first and they always have plasma and it's fun to ruin their day. 3. It's a beacon grabber and after I unload my orkan once or twice I suicide him and move on to higher damage bots so I don't spoil my chances of winning damage gold.
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Post by moody on Apr 18, 2017 1:09:30 GMT -5
1. Orkans 2. B. Because I always run into other Gareths first and they always have plasma and it's fun to ruin their day. 3. It's a beacon grabber and after I unload my orkan once or twice I suicide him and move on to higher damage bots so I don't spoil my chances of winning damage gold. Meantime I don't care about damage gold. I'm in the game to win.
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Apr 18, 2017 1:10:43 GMT -5
2 thunders can destroy gareth shield quickly in close range i run my carnage thunders and kill a plasma gareth. Other way is use a rockets weapons like orkan, pinata, pin, trident, tulumbas.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 1:14:08 GMT -5
1. Orkans 2. B. Because I always run into other Gareths first and they always have plasma and it's fun to ruin their day. 3. It's a beacon grabber and after I unload my orkan once or twice I suicide him and move on to higher damage bots so I don't spoil my chances of winning damage gold. Meantime I don't care about damage gold. I'm in the game to win. Congratulations.
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Post by hyderier on Apr 18, 2017 1:32:48 GMT -5
Meantime I don't care about damage gold. I'm in the game to win. In what league are you (including Android. or IOS) and with what level of equipment? Because that kind of attitude will reward you with high win% and lots of league points, quicker than your hangar level warrants. If you enjoy playing as the weakest blue bot (at least when blues win), then go for it! Otherwise, consider switching your priorities... So if you are still rising in the leagues now, you don't really know how you'll feel once you hit the ceiling imposed by your very slowly upgrading equipment... Just be warned it may get old fast. And that's how tankers are born. Avoid it by playing already now for minimal league points, meaning minimum damage needed to win. That'll keep you playing with and against decent other hangars. A good alternative to damage is to play for beacons which, despite what the league point "rewards" may suggest, are the objective of the battles anyway.
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Post by moody on Apr 18, 2017 2:08:35 GMT -5
Meantime I don't care about damage gold. I'm in the game to win. In what league are you (including Android. or IOS) and with what level of equipment? Because that kind of attitude will reward you with high win% and lots of league points, quicker than your hangar level warrants. If you enjoy playing as the weakest blue bot (at least when blues win), then go for it! Otherwise, consider switching your priorities... So if you are still rising in the leagues now, you don't really know how you'll feel once you hit the ceiling imposed by your very slowly upgrading equipment... Just be warned it may get old fast. And that's how tankers are born. Avoid it by playing already now for minimal league points, meaning minimum damage needed to win. That'll keep you playing with and against decent other hangars. A good alternative to damage is to play for beacons which, despite what the league point "rewards" may suggest, are the objective of the battles anyway. Oh i have been into the hell of android diamond ii. Back to gold 1 wihout tanking. I still play to win and enjoy the challenge. If i lose so be it at least i tried and did the best to my ability.
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Post by moody on Apr 18, 2017 2:10:45 GMT -5
In what league are you (including Android. or IOS) and with what level of equipment? Because that kind of attitude will reward you with high win% and lots of league points, quicker than your hangar level warrants. If you enjoy playing as the weakest blue bot (at least when blues win), then go for it! Otherwise, consider switching your priorities... So if you are still rising in the leagues now, you don't really know how you'll feel once you hit the ceiling imposed by your very slowly upgrading equipment... Just be warned it may get old fast. And that's how tankers are born. Avoid it by playing already now for minimal league points, meaning minimum damage needed to win. That'll keep you playing with and against decent other hangars. A good alternative to damage is to play for beacons which, despite what the league point "rewards" may suggest, are the objective of the battles anyway. Oh i have been into the hell of android diamond ii. Back to gold 1 wihout tanking. I still play to win and enjoy the challenge. If i lose so be it at least i tried and did the best to my ability. Ps. Just over 9/9.
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Post by hyderier on Apr 18, 2017 2:32:25 GMT -5
Oh i have been into the hell of android diamond ii. Back to gold 1 wihout tanking. I still play to win and enjoy the challenge. If i lose so be it at least i tried and did the best to my ability. Ok, so you know what you're doing Me, I might make it back to Gold 3 once I get a Brit bot (or a Rogatka, if its buff and Tulumbas upgrade land in time and are good), which probably increases my damage output without hurting beacon capture... At the moment I'm "struggling" (I wouldn't be sorry at all if I dropped) to stay in Silver 1, dropping to Silver 2 seems inevitable (though I think I'll pop right back from there if I drop).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 6:31:36 GMT -5
A smart Gareth pilot does not die to Orkans. You will beed Tulumbas, Pins or Tridents to kill those.
Best Gareth weapons are Taran Magnum.
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Post by frunobulax on Apr 18, 2017 7:03:39 GMT -5
Meantime I don't care about damage gold. I'm in the game to win. In what league are you (including Android. or IOS) and with what level of equipment? Because that kind of attitude will reward you with high win% and lots of league points, quicker than your hangar level warrants. If you enjoy playing as the weakest blue bot (at least when blues win), then go for it! Otherwise, consider switching your priorities... So if you are still rising in the leagues now, you don't really know how you'll feel once you hit the ceiling imposed by your very slowly upgrading equipment... Just be warned it may get old fast. And that's how tankers are born. Avoid it by playing already now for minimal league points, meaning minimum damage needed to win. That'll keep you playing with and against decent other hangars. A good alternative to damage is to play for beacons which, despite what the league point "rewards" may suggest, are the objective of the battles anyway. If an "I'm playing to win" message gets such a response, you know there's something terribly wrong with the game.
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Post by frunobulax on Apr 18, 2017 7:06:29 GMT -5
A smart Gareth pilot does not die to Orkans. You will beed Tulumbas, Pins or Tridents to kill those. Best Gareth weapons are Taran Magnum. Well, the skill of the Gareth hunter is also a factor In Gareth vs Gareth, the Mag Orkan Gareth wins against the Mag Taran.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 7:09:43 GMT -5
A smart Gareth pilot does not die to Orkans. You will beed Tulumbas, Pins or Tridents to kill those. Best Gareth weapons are Taran Magnum. Well, the skill of the Gareth hunter is also a factor In Gareth vs Gareth, the Mag Orkan Gareth wins against the Mag Taran. That also depends on the skill of the 2 Gareth pilots.
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Post by frunobulax on Apr 18, 2017 7:23:39 GMT -5
Obviously I currently switch between Trident Fury and Hellfire Galahad in my 5th spot (while the other slots are pretty much fixed), and I usually open with that robot, mainly because many players open in a Gary or Plasmahad. Hellfire Galahad is pretty efficient against those (and Stalkers), you can chase them off the beacon and force them to retreat. Trident Fury has a different approach obviously but is als very good against all lights and Galahads.
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Post by hyderier on Apr 18, 2017 7:38:45 GMT -5
In what league are you (including Android. or IOS) and with what level of equipment? Because that kind of attitude will reward you with high win% and lots of league points, quicker than your hangar level warrants. If you enjoy playing as the weakest blue bot (at least when blues win), then go for it! Otherwise, consider switching your priorities... So if you are still rising in the leagues now, you don't really know how you'll feel once you hit the ceiling imposed by your very slowly upgrading equipment... Just be warned it may get old fast. And that's how tankers are born. Avoid it by playing already now for minimal league points, meaning minimum damage needed to win. That'll keep you playing with and against decent other hangars. A good alternative to damage is to play for beacons which, despite what the league point "rewards" may suggest, are the objective of the battles anyway. If an "I'm playing to win" message gets such a response, you know there's something terribly wrong with the game. An astute observation. The problem is, "prestige rewards" (league placement) is in conflict with "real rewards" (Au, Ag, having fun). Leagues should not be used for matchmaking, because low league does not mean low skill or equpment level. Hangar based MM should still be used, but to avoid clubbing total hangar power should be calculated, so that truly about equal hangars would face each others. It wouldn't be hard to come up with hangar power calculation which would match the reality. Pix has or can get statistics on true effectiveness of different bots and weapons, and use these when calculating hangar power. Also the hangar power should be shown to players, also after battles. Or, there should be flat Au reward for being in winning side, plus daily league based Au reward for 1st win, so there would be no point to tank, as outclassing equipment of the rest of the team (which is what tanking is all about) would not bring in extra Au. Or something else. Just not what we have now, nor what we had last year.
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Post by (°<'G'>°) on Apr 18, 2017 8:24:34 GMT -5
Do you guys suggest magnum over pinata on an orkan Gareth?
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Apr 18, 2017 8:28:24 GMT -5
Do you guys suggest magnum over pinata on an orkan Gareth? Both would work, though in my personal opinion, I'd go magnum for the sustained dps, as well as the added benefit of being able to have at least one weapon that works against shielded bots, but some use pinata with orkan because the ranges match (300m), and if used correctly, can really damage other bots
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Post by snk on Apr 18, 2017 9:01:37 GMT -5
i don't know others, but I would rather face Orkan/Piñata Gareth over Gareth with any plasma setup with my Stalker. Orkan, Piñata or aphids can be dodge easily when my bots run faster than 62km (my Stalker lv7). Orkan/Magnum Gareth is annoying for my Galahad, because I need shield down to fight it.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Apr 18, 2017 9:51:48 GMT -5
Tridents - I almost feel sorry for the Garies. Almost.
Orkans/Plasma - Orkans turns your Gary into an Anti-BritBot-Bot. Plasma is the standard load out
No- It is a beacon capper Flanker/harasser. It is not meant to suicide. you are playing it wrong.
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Post by =Rogue-13= on Apr 19, 2017 5:06:07 GMT -5
Tridents - I almost feel sorry for the Garies. Almost. Orkans/Plasma - Orkans turns your Gary into an Anti-BritBot-Bot. Plasma is the standard load out No- It is a beacon capper Flanker/harasser. It is not meant to suicide. you are playing it wrong. Thanks for your opinion, however I disagree that I am 'playing it wrong'. I'm unsure if you can even say that to be candid. No matter.
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Post by frunobulax on Apr 19, 2017 6:02:29 GMT -5
Do you guys suggest magnum over pinata on an orkan Gareth? Yes, that's how I run it. One mag has enough dps to take down an unshielded light or medium robot that has protection (Carnage, Fujin), the Orkan has enough destructive power to beat other light robots that have only plasma. Also, with a Mag you can stay at 330m distance to an Orkan/Pinata robot. The price, however, is that it takes longer to take down enemy robots. With full plasma loadout you're quicker against Carnage/Fujin, and with full rocket layout you're taking down enemy Galahads/Garys faster. Also you risk that a skilled britbot pilot will break your shield before you get him. Stalkers depend on the skill of the opposing pilot, as it is capable to avoid rockets I prefer to use plasma there too. But overall, I think as a leadoff robot a hellfire Gary/Galahad performs better than an all-plasma version, at least in the leagues I play (hangar level between 8 and 9).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 6:13:58 GMT -5
Well, the skill of the Gareth hunter is also a factor In Gareth vs Gareth, the Mag Orkan Gareth wins against the Mag Taran. That also depends on the skill of the 2 Gareth pilots. You'd have to be pretty bad to be in a splash Gareth and get killed by a plasma Gareth. Like really really bad, or way over-upgraded.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 6:17:03 GMT -5
Do you guys suggest magnum over pinata on an orkan Gareth? Either magnum or aphid is usually better than pinata. The mag will help with stalkers which you often run into with Gareths and the aphid reloads much quicker than pinata but does damage in the same neighborhood.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 6:27:27 GMT -5
That also depends on the skill of the 2 Gareth pilots. You'd have to be pretty bad to be in a splash Gareth and get killed by a plasma Gareth. Like really really bad, or way over-upgraded. The Plasma Gareth can backpedal the Orkan Mag/Pinata's rockets from 150m up.
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Apr 19, 2017 8:49:57 GMT -5
That also depends on the skill of the 2 Gareth pilots. You'd have to be pretty bad to be in a splash Gareth and get killed by a plasma Gareth. Like really really bad, or way over-upgraded. I run my orkan/pinata gareth and i kill plasma Gareth.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Apr 19, 2017 9:14:11 GMT -5
You'd have to be pretty bad to be in a splash Gareth and get killed by a plasma Gareth. Like really really bad, or way over-upgraded. I run my orkan/pinata gareth and i kill plasma Gareth. I run my Taran/Magnum Gareth and I kill Rocket Gareth.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Apr 19, 2017 9:17:52 GMT -5
In what league are you (including Android. or IOS) and with what level of equipment? Because that kind of attitude will reward you with high win% and lots of league points, quicker than your hangar level warrants. If you enjoy playing as the weakest blue bot (at least when blues win), then go for it! Otherwise, consider switching your priorities... So if you are still rising in the leagues now, you don't really know how you'll feel once you hit the ceiling imposed by your very slowly upgrading equipment... Just be warned it may get old fast. And that's how tankers are born. Avoid it by playing already now for minimal league points, meaning minimum damage needed to win. That'll keep you playing with and against decent other hangars. A good alternative to damage is to play for beacons which, despite what the league point "rewards" may suggest, are the objective of the battles anyway. If an "I'm playing to win" message gets such a response, you know there's something terribly wrong with the game. Indeed. When someone sincerely warns you 'don't try too hard to win or you'll get bent over and abused' that's really bad. When the response is 'already been bent over and abused but I'm recovered now and I still try to win' well that's both admirable and deeply, deeply disturbing.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Apr 19, 2017 9:22:06 GMT -5
That also depends on the skill of the 2 Gareth pilots. You'd have to be pretty bad to be in a splash Gareth and get killed by a plasma Gareth. Like really really bad, or way over-upgraded. Orkan Gareths I run into tend to chase my plasma Gareth. It's like they think 'hey I'm *supposed* to win this, come back here and die!'. So they chase me, I backpeddle their continuous Orkan dribble, eventually their shield breaks from my plasma and then *they* either eject, run away, or die. The ones that ambush you and then don't chase you are very dangerous.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Apr 19, 2017 10:08:58 GMT -5
You'd have to be pretty bad to be in a splash Gareth and get killed by a plasma Gareth. Like really really bad, or way over-upgraded. Orkan Gareths I run into tend to chase my plasma Gareth. It's like they think 'hey I'm *supposed* to win this, come back here and die!'. So they chase me, I backpeddle their continuous Orkan dribble, eventually their shield breaks from my plasma and then *they* either eject, run away, or die. The ones that ambush you and then don't chase you are very dangerous. I've also ran into the aphid/orkan variety. It will lob aphids from behind cover making you want to chase them and then boom! I have orkans!
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