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Post by Old-Cat on Mar 12, 2021 12:26:11 GMT -5
I think long arm tens are the way I might go, given that the A-coin payout nerf makes the rail gun pretty much unattainable ( I’m not spending another dime until that’s fixed).
My medium length goal would be running two panthers, LA 10s and CB12 s. I can only move so many bot and weapons up soooo. Most of my mechs are stuck at 4.7 so I have to make every move count.
Any thoughts ?
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 12, 2021 12:35:35 GMT -5
It's not a bad plan. Both builds are good and have end-game viability.
I prefer the dual CB 12 on Guardian, but if you are limited in choices the Panther is a damn good alternative and for some, they choose it over Guardian even with the option available to them to use both.
Panther is solid and the Stasis Fence is damned useful for making opportunities for dual CB12s. Guardian and Killy are both direct counters since their abilities will negate the fence, but otherwise it's one of the more reliable defensive options, all the way to end-game.
Dual LA 10 is def a worthy goal, too. It can own those long Tourney maps if you are good with them, and is a bit better in a brawl than the LA 8 for the shorter maps, if you have to use it.
So, yeah, if you are limiting your funds, I don't see any downsides to the path you have taken. RG is still grindable and not a 'must-have'. It's nice and can kick 「bum-bum」, but I still haven't gotten one and do pretty well.
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Post by Kamikaze Strike on Mar 12, 2021 12:41:57 GMT -5
I have no idea why Mech Arena is in the War Robots forum
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Post by anjian on Mar 12, 2021 12:50:21 GMT -5
Got an LA 10. Its a shameless killer.
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Post by punishingcossack on Mar 12, 2021 13:38:30 GMT -5
I think long arm tens are the way I might go, given that the A-coin payout nerf makes the rail gun pretty much unattainable ( I’m not spending another dime until that’s fixed). My medium length goal would be running two panthers, LA 10s and CB12 s. I can only move so many bot and weapons up soooo. Most of my mechs are stuck at 4.7 so I have to make every move count. Any thoughts ? if you're go the LA10 route and wanna get second copy, it's like 900k credits and a lot of A-coins EDIT: 900k, not 9 million as I previously wrote |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 12, 2021 14:43:39 GMT -5
I think long arm tens are the way I might go, given that the A-coin payout nerf makes the rail gun pretty much unattainable ( I’m not spending another dime until that’s fixed). My medium length goal would be running two panthers, LA 10s and CB12 s. I can only move so many bot and weapons up soooo. Most of my mechs are stuck at 4.7 so I have to make every move count. Any thoughts ? if you're go the LA10 route and wanna get second copy, it's like 9 million credits and a lot of A-coins That is an aspect I didn't think of... haven't tried to R6 LA 10 yet.
(9 million?!... geez) But yeah, looking at what it takes to get to the next R5 level in this shot:
 I honestly didn't pay attention during my level ups, but it prolly does cost a helluva lot, in total. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 12, 2021 14:52:36 GMT -5
I have no idea why Mech Arena is in the War Robots forum Im new Hi new, I thought you were alive? Make up your mind... |
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Post by punishingcossack on Mar 12, 2021 16:10:35 GMT -5
if you're go the LA10 route and wanna get second copy, it's like 9 million credits and a lot of A-coins That is an aspect I didn't think of... haven't tried to R6 LA 10 yet.
(9 million?!... geez) But yeah, looking at what it takes to get to the next R5 level in this shot:
I honestly didn't pay attention during my level ups, but it prolly does cost a helluva lot, in total. 「dookie」 sorry I meant 900k or so, not 9 million LOL |
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Post by Kamikaze Strike on Mar 12, 2021 16:36:55 GMT -5
I have no idea why Mech Arena is in the War Robots forum Im new Hi new, I thought you were alive? Make up your mind... can i be both? Its an Alias of sorts... |
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Post by Old-Cat on Mar 12, 2021 21:31:37 GMT -5
That is an aspect I didn't think of... haven't tried to R6 LA 10 yet.
(9 million?!... geez) But yeah, looking at what it takes to get to the next R5 level in this shot:
I honestly didn't pay attention during my level ups, but it prolly does cost a helluva lot, in total. 「dookie」 sorry I meant 900k or so, not 9 million LOL A-Coins are my concern. 3150 is all I need to move them. |
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Post by Old-Cat on Mar 12, 2021 21:32:05 GMT -5
Does anyone run a two?
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Post by punishingcossack on Mar 12, 2021 23:42:29 GMT -5
not me, but a few of my clanmates do it shines on a few of the tourney maps w/ more long range sight lines. It's arguably better than RG LA8 on those maps |
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Post by dukeofadvil on Mar 13, 2021 1:10:18 GMT -5
I have no idea why Mech Arena is in the War Robots forum Im new I believe we just got tired of trash talking War Robots and we were too lazy to go elsewhere. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Mar 13, 2021 1:38:51 GMT -5
I have no idea why Mech Arena is in the War Robots forum Im new Because the ‘official’ MA forum is utter garbage. And a good part of those players are W R refugees. The original Mech Arena thread took on a life of its own, so SuperHero was nice enough to give it its own space here while W R dies a slow self-inflicted death. |
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 14, 2021 15:43:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure about the LA10. If you think that the RG16 is in your future, then I would not over invest in the LA10 but instead invest in the LA8. I'm running the Thanos build (LA8/RG16) on my Guardian right now and it's is utterly brutal. It's challenging to run though and I'm powerful in mid-long ranges, but weak up close, so I'm hoping to clone my Panther one day and move the Thanos build to it instead. My Panther is currently running dual SB12 and it's an amazing "clutch" mech. My long term goal for the Guardian is dual CB12.
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Post by Munki on Mar 15, 2021 16:08:46 GMT -5
I'm not sure about the LA10. If you think that the RG16 is in your future, then I would not over invest in the LA10 but instead invest in the LA8. I'm running the Thanos build (LA8/RG16) on my Guardian right now and it's is utterly brutal. It's challenging to run though and I'm powerful in mid-long ranges, but weak up close, so I'm hoping to clone my Panther one day and move the Thanos build to it instead. My Panther is currently running dual SB12 and it's an amazing "clutch" mech. My long term goal for the Guardian is dual CB12. , while the LA10 hits harder and sounds awesome when firing, I would choose the LA8 over the 10 simply for the fact of how the mech energy limits work in the game. 10EN weapons do not align well with other weapons. There is no 14EN to match with on EN24 mechs. They work good on the EN18 mechs but they always feel like the odd weapon out. LA8 can work with SB16 or RG16. Guess you just need to decide what your end hanger would be and plan for it. While this game is planning a new weapon and released a new mech, the game's expansion is nowhere near as crazy as War Robots. I had been going with the LA10 but stopped when I realized I could not get it to work for my plans. |
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Post by Old-Cat on Mar 16, 2021 8:18:21 GMT -5
Well it appears this may all be moot. They say they are going to fix the mess they made out of the A-coin payout structure. Railgun here I come if they do.
I have no issue w supporting the company, I wont however encourage bad behavior. I cant in good conscience financially support a game when one must pay to progress or be competitive. Most of us have been down that road. I ain't doing it again.
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 16, 2021 8:49:08 GMT -5
Just had a TDM match with someone on my Friends list. He ran dual LA10 Panther and I ran my SB12 Panther. We completely dominated one side of the map today. Seriously, there's isn't any mech combo more deadly than a pair of Panthers. We alternated our Stasis Fields and I slowed down reds with my SB12s for him to finish off. I still think the Thanos build is ultimately better, but dual LA10s did pretty decently here.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Mar 16, 2021 14:11:04 GMT -5
Well it appears this may all be moot. They say they are going to fix the mess they made out of the A-coin payout structure. Railgun here I come if they do. I have no issue w supporting the company, I wont however encourage bad behavior. I cant in good conscience financially support a game when one must pay to progress or be competitive. Most of us have been down that road. I ain't doing it again. From their FB page earlier today: I will never, ever understand how these developers can ever think that taking stuff away from players can possibly be a good idea. Beta or not, when you reduce (or eliminate) rewards, it removes a significant part of players’ incentive to play. How daft do you have to be to not grasp that simple concept. Ditto fo raising prices on in-game purchases. You want to make everybody happy AND increase your player base AND make more money? LOWER YOUR PRICES AND GIVE BETTER, USEFUL REWARDS!!!!! |
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 16, 2021 14:46:42 GMT -5
I'm interested in seeing what new mech they're coming out with. The Redox needs a lot of rework, so lets see if they get the next one right.
I'm also looking forward to the new weapon. It's supposedly a disk launcher with projectiles that can bounce off walls. I'd love to be able to hit more mechs around corners, especially since JRs got fixed. Too bad I just spent almost all my credits upgrading my Panther and my CB12 for the Dev Derby.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 16, 2021 15:31:59 GMT -5
I'm interested in seeing what new mech they're coming out with. The Redox needs a lot of rework, so lets see if they get the next one right. I'm also looking forward to the new weapon. It's supposedly a disk launcher with projectiles that can bounce off walls. I'd love to be able to hit more mechs around corners, especially since JRs got fixed. Too bad I just spent almost all my credits upgrading my Panther and my CB12 for the Dev Derby. I don't think it's too bad, at all, that you spent credits on the CB12 and Panther... both are worthy targets for end-game upgrades.
But yeah that disc launcher sounds fun, at the least! Hope they get the balance right... they've certainly took long enough working on it.
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Post by reconnecting on Mar 20, 2021 12:27:11 GMT -5
I'm interested in seeing what new mech they're coming out with. The Redox needs a lot of rework, so lets see if they get the next one right. I'm also looking forward to the new weapon. It's supposedly a disk launcher with projectiles that can bounce off walls. I'd love to be able to hit more mechs around corners, especially since JRs got fixed. Too bad I just spent almost all my credits upgrading my Panther and my CB12 for the Dev Derby. I don't think it's too bad, at all, that you spent credits on the CB12 and Panther... both are worthy targets for end-game upgrades.
But yeah that disc launcher sounds fun, at the least! Hope they get the balance right... they've certainly took long enough working on it.
The disc launcher sounds like something from my Unreal Tournament days, bouncing shots around corners. Good times. Looking forward to it..pic is the Flak Cannon, an old favorite of mine. :-)  |
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Post by Old-Cat on Mar 20, 2021 13:01:29 GMT -5
I still like the cheaper option of 10s and from what has been said and Ive seen they definitely smoke fools at a distance. Nonetheless, I guess I’m just gonna stand fast for now. I’m a little shy of half way to a rail gun and I don’t have enough blueprints to duplicate my LA 10s. Sooooo.
I’m not going to be able place in tournaments much until the end of April (turkey season- whooooo). Normally I might be tempted to just come off the hip for the A-coins and get what I need for the rail gun but not if I can’t play much. I m glad the devs added A-coins back in the tasks, I’ll be able to scratch up a few in the mean time. It may be good to save some credits and be ready when I figure out which way to go.
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 22, 2021 11:23:18 GMT -5
The railgun is definitely worth it. It's a hard gun to use and works a bit differently than the LA series, but it's pure evil when you get used to it.
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Post by scape211 on Mar 22, 2021 15:39:22 GMT -5
Just happened to pop and see this thread. I'm starting to wonder if you guys are listening to my thoughts as I have been working on a video comparing the LA10s vs the Thanos build. It's been slow since other videos get in the way, but its definitely one I want to address.
In short, both are great and solid for end game. Like a few other things in this game, it's the case of a more budget friendly build with less flexibility (LA10s) vs a more expensive one with more (thanos). It generally breaks down like: LA10s have a more specific function (sniper) that can produce consistent damage providing you play them right and keep accurate. Thanos build is easier to pilot and has higher burst damage potential with a chance of a one shot kill if the stars align.
I will also say that since the effective range of the RG is so wide, its very useful for other styles of builds. LA10s are generally regulated to long range play. So even if you focus on getting the LA10s for now, I would still get the RG. Especially if you enjoy how the LAs aim/play since both require manual aiming.
This is of course the short form of this topic though. I plan to detail each out more for the eventual video.
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Post by dukeofadvil on Mar 23, 2021 7:50:08 GMT -5
I don't think it's too bad, at all, that you spent credits on the CB12 and Panther... both are worthy targets for end-game upgrades.
But yeah that disc launcher sounds fun, at the least! Hope they get the balance right... they've certainly took long enough working on it.
The disc launcher sounds like something from my Unreal Tournament days, bouncing shots around corners. Good times. Looking forward to it..pic is the Flak Cannon, an old favorite of mine. :-) Unreal 2004 was my game, and the flak cannon was also my weapon of choice. There were some crazy servers running custom maps that were better than anything that Epic was developing. I'm not sure the Disk Launcher will be as effective as the Flak Cannon unless it shoots out large quantities of disks to create a pinball effect killing zone. If it just shoots a disk or 2 it will require too much precision to bank a red bot into the corner pocket. |
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 23, 2021 9:28:33 GMT -5
One more point I just remembered. Someone mentioned this in another thread (sorry, I don't remember who). The RG projectile is a bit slower than the LA projectile. This has good and bad scenarios for the Thanos build.
Good - The LA8 projectile hits first and triggers overheat, the RG16 hits a split second later and gets a damage boost - bam, one shot kill.
Bad - If you're lined up on a mech very very far away, the LA projectile has very little chance to miss, while the RG projectile might miss if the target is moving.
So, when you play LA10's, you get a pure sniper platform. When you play Thanos, you have to adjust your playstyle and maybe not engage targets as far away as you would with pure LA builds.
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Post by Old-Cat on Apr 13, 2021 11:15:11 GMT -5
Well I picked up the railgun over the weekend. That joker is a hoot. One-shotting reds turned cracks me up about every time. As Koalabear and @scape211said, it can do a bit of everything, long, mid and short ( if you're careful). I'm please w my purchase. I may duplicate my LA10 at some point but that will be way down the road. |
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 13, 2021 12:14:15 GMT -5
Well I picked up the railgun over the weekend. That joker is a hoot. One-shotting reds turned cracks me up about every time. As Koalabear and @scape211said, it can do a bit of everything, long, mid and short ( if you're careful). I'm please w my purchase. I may duplicate my LA10 at some point but that will be way down the road. Congrats! Now get yourself a 24EN mech and join the Thanos club! |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 13, 2021 12:37:58 GMT -5
Well I picked up the railgun over the weekend. That joker is a hoot. One-shotting reds turned cracks me up about every time. As Koalabear and @scape211said, it can do a bit of everything, long, mid and short ( if you're careful). I'm please w my purchase. I may duplicate my LA10 at some point but that will be way down the road. I did clone my LA's recently, due to still needing about 30k or so XP before I can unlock the RG, and it is definitely a good option...
But I don't think you can do better than the RG. I def need it to compete with other players in my SP range. I can still hold my own, but racking up those huge numbers is a lot harder without one. I run support when squadding with 3kSP players, Panther with SB 12x2, and focus on slowing down folk for their RGs. It works.
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