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Post by mechtout on Oct 27, 2020 5:50:24 GMT -5
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Post by nocluevok on Oct 27, 2020 6:47:27 GMT -5
Got one match in before the server went down for maintenance, so I can't say I saw that.
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Oct 27, 2020 8:41:20 GMT -5
I saw it, I thought I was up against a team in heat 1 and went 「whiskey tango foxtrot」.. first time I had a player on the other side get 20 kills along with me getting 20 kills... but... I won.. merp   |
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Post by Munki on Oct 27, 2020 8:56:30 GMT -5
Well, perfect targets for Rocket Mortars. I assume the red side did not suffer from this.
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Oct 27, 2020 9:02:41 GMT -5
Well, perfect targets for Rocket Mortars. I assume the red side did not suffer from this. All my Blue AI went to party in the same corner.. it was a train wreck. So to be clear the Red team for me went to a corner and my blue joined them in their corner. looks like the flip happened to mech |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Oct 27, 2020 9:17:04 GMT -5
3 games this morning, 5 AI all grouping in the far right corner, snd one OP a-hole blasting every blue that advanced at them. Then one more where four red AI advanced into the blue side at once, while one red a-hole just spammed mortars the entire match. And once again, I’m top mech in all losing efforts. Tournament games have all SUCKED today.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 27, 2020 9:21:23 GMT -5
Tried to play a game this morning but the server was down... so I haven't had a chance to find out, but I agree... RM or upgraded MRs would kill in that scenario... Hell, even Javs have what seems to be splash (I think it is just that some of the missiles hit bots that are near... but still)and will wreck mechs all grouped up like that. BTW... Nice duel A.c.r.u.x. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Oct 27, 2020 9:28:08 GMT -5
Tried to play a game this morning but the server was down... so I haven't had a chance to find out, but I agree... RM or upgraded MRs would kill in that scenario... Hell, even Javs have what seems to be splash (I think it is just that some of the missiles hit bots that are near... but still)and will wreck mechs all grouped up like that. BTW... Nice duel A.c.r.u.x. I don’t know what the hell they did, but all my tourney games today have been a total CF. I’ve never seen Novice level so bad. I’m seriously thinking of just sitting out this week’s tournament instead of wasting tickets. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 27, 2020 9:30:38 GMT -5
Tried to play a game this morning but the server was down... so I haven't had a chance to find out, but I agree... RM or upgraded MRs would kill in that scenario... Hell, even Javs have what seems to be splash (I think it is just that some of the missiles hit bots that are near... but still)and will wreck mechs all grouped up like that. BTW... Nice duel A.c.r.u.x. I don’t know what the hell they did, but all my tourney games today have been a total CF. I’ve never seen Novice level so bad. I’m seriously thinking of just sitting out this week’s tournament instead of wasting tickets. Well... I'm sorta glad I have too much to do to play atm, then! Hopefully it was a result of them dialing down the "crazy" with the AI and they tweaked the wrong thing and can get it fixed soon... |
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Post by Deadeye on Oct 27, 2020 9:34:45 GMT -5
Uhhh, the javs are freaking ruling this AI group thing. My tournament scores in my 5 games today have ranged from 399-289 with only one game less than 300. KS Jav6 and Guardian Carb8 are beasts. I've seen that the groupings happen on both sides, but generally, if you're more aggressive early (aka, push forward with the KS or Guardian immediately, then the red team tends to be the one that groups. Otherwise, they will come to you (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). Just watch what's happening and play it accordingly. And yes, I've been sorely tempted to RM up my guardian for this map today. This map is outstanding for RMs as there is virtually no vertical cover what so ever, with the small exception of the arches which are generally death traps. No one wants a Jugg hug in one of those. Also, a quick addition...a Panther LA setup can be a particularly effective way to take advantage of this grouping too. I had a RL player in one game and he did this in one match. Almost won it for him...almost.  I managed to force the draw. |
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Post by mechtout on Oct 27, 2020 10:07:47 GMT -5
I had a 475 game with reds coming to us, so ya not necessarily a bad thing unless its a bunch of Juggs. When the bots specifically come for you, you get no help at all. So a RL player could tag team with your designated red ai, and make a tough day for you.
Using long arms and camping on the opposite corner of the groupings worked pretty well, just need to shoot around your zombie blue ai. I found alternating fire killed more reds
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Post by Koalabear on Oct 27, 2020 10:10:03 GMT -5
I got that except it's the reds who group together. I got like a triple kill with Javs. I think I'll slap together my RMs and give that a go too.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Oct 27, 2020 10:26:23 GMT -5
I got that except it's the reds who group together. I got like a triple kill with Javs. I think I'll slap together my RMs and give that a go too. I tried that. As soon as I did, the reds decided to swarm the blue end. Wave after wave, blues mostly standing around with fingers up their butts watching them. It’s either one extreme or the other - they all either huddle in one corner on their end (except for the lone human player, who’s just picking off aggressive blues at will), or they all storm the blue end. I’m getting meched out in the latter scenario, which usually never happens to me in tournament. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 27, 2020 10:46:23 GMT -5
Snuck a game in... I got it too but it only happened to my Blues... took a vid for the Hell of it...
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Post by Deadeye on Oct 27, 2020 10:57:27 GMT -5
Snuck a game in... I got it too but it only happened to my Blues... took a vid for the Hell of it...
Awesome, thanks man. I had NO IDEA the Shadow ability affected the sound like that. It's freaking cool! |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 27, 2020 11:40:53 GMT -5
Snuck a game in... I got it too but it only happened to my Blues... took a vid for the Hell of it...
Awesome, thanks man. I had NO IDEA the Shadow ability affected the sound like that. It's freaking cool! Yeah it's def a nice touch! The little details go a long way towards making something immersive. |
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Post by nocluevok on Oct 27, 2020 13:08:02 GMT -5
I likes...  |
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Post by Koalabear on Oct 27, 2020 13:10:54 GMT -5
Ok, after getting completely overpowered by a team that had more than one human player and my team huddled in a corner, I decided to do the RM8 Guardian thing. The extra benefit of course is that I got that Kill 3 mechs with no damage task, and technically, I killed like 21 of them.  |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 27, 2020 13:35:41 GMT -5
Yeah I had a very similar match just now as you Koalabear... RM FTW! I literally just got off lunch or I'd have ran a few with you... soon though! I'll try and pay attention to who's online before I start playing... def enjoy running as a team in this game! |
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Post by punishingcossack on Oct 27, 2020 13:36:29 GMT -5
too bad this is just the novice heat, getting high scores is only useful for completing tasks quickly
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 27, 2020 13:38:22 GMT -5
too bad this is just the novice heat, getting high scores is only useful for completing tasks quickly 1st place in novice is still good return in resources... not great, but worth spending a few tickets... imo. |
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Post by punishingcossack on Oct 27, 2020 14:03:53 GMT -5
too bad this is just the novice heat, getting high scores is only useful for completing tasks quickly 1st place in novice is still good return in resources... not great, but worth spending a few tickets... imo. yea I play just enough matches so that I can recoup my ticket investment w/ crates, but I won't compete if some guy wants to win it w/ 4k points |
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Post by mechtout on Oct 27, 2020 14:19:39 GMT -5
too bad this is just the novice heat, getting high scores is only useful for completing tasks quickly 1st place in novice is still good return in resources... not great, but worth spending a few tickets... imo. if you save your daily challenges crate and one steel from Monday (dont open off day rewards until after tourney starts) that gives you five free tickets to play novice bracket, and still be able to bring 12 tickets with you to the next bracket. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 27, 2020 14:40:42 GMT -5
1st place in novice is still good return in resources... not great, but worth spending a few tickets... imo. if you save your daily challenges crate and one steel from Monday (dont open off day rewards until after tourney starts) that gives you five free tickets to play novice bracket, and still be able to bring 12 tickets with you to the next bracket. Yup... that's a good point.
I have only ran out of tickets 1x though... I hardly ever have enough time to blow through tons... as it is... I play a game to get into a bracket as early as I can, and then by the time I can play (usually the last part of the day) most folk in my bracket are done... which means as long as I am not going against a 4k+ score, I can usually pull in the win with tickets and crates already saved/banked in the last hour or less. |
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Post by punishingcossack on Oct 27, 2020 14:52:44 GMT -5
1st place in novice is still good return in resources... not great, but worth spending a few tickets... imo. if you save your daily challenges crate and one steel from Monday (dont open off day rewards until after tourney starts) that gives you five free tickets to play novice bracket, and still be able to bring 12 tickets with you to the next bracket. I have 20 unopened crates (the ones on the main screen), 5 orange and 15 silver...I only open them if I need to top up credits to do an upgrade, or if I can get tickets |
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Post by punishingcossack on Oct 27, 2020 14:55:09 GMT -5
if you save your daily challenges crate and one steel from Monday (dont open off day rewards until after tourney starts) that gives you five free tickets to play novice bracket, and still be able to bring 12 tickets with you to the next bracket. Yup... that's a good point.
I have only ran out of tickets 1x though... I hardly ever have enough time to blow through tons... as it is... I play a game to get into a bracket as early as I can, and then by the time I can play (usually the last part of the day) most folk in my bracket are done... which means as long as I am not going against a 4k+ score, I can usually pull in the win with tickets and crates already saved/banked in the last hour or less. For the last two weeks or so, I've been joining a heat w/ 45m left to go (the latest time you can do so), and just playing for 45m straight to avoid dealing w/ 5k pts BS crap. You're basically only competing with 4 or 5 other ppl who are gonna be playing for 45m, so everyone starts at 0 and it's easier competition. I gunned for #1 in 4 heats last week, and swept them all. Take a look at how little I had to play for all those juicy resources:  |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Oct 27, 2020 14:56:30 GMT -5
All my matches this morning were easy boring yawn matches because of this. I just stood back getting double and triple simultaneous kills on these clusters. I got between 15-20kills per match.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Oct 27, 2020 15:18:30 GMT -5
Ok, after getting completely overpowered by a team that had more than one human player and my team huddled in a corner, I decided to do the RM8 Guardian thing. The extra benefit of course is that I got that Kill 3 mechs with no damage task, and technically, I killed like 21 of them. I’m only having limited success when the blues decide it’s their turn to huddle and there’s one or two OP human hangars on the other side. They always seem to turn their guns on ME, so I can’t just shoot the other fish in a barrel inverting on the blue campers. I’ve tried both RM’s and javs, and it always comes down to how good and how many the human players are on each side. If you’re lucky enough to get all AI, whether they’re camping or swarming, they all end up in one place and you can pick them off at will. But just one good, OP human red player joining the hunt will ruin your plans in a hurry. Get two of them and a blue team full of corner campers, you’re gonna have a bad time. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 27, 2020 15:30:16 GMT -5
Ok, after getting completely overpowered by a team that had more than one human player and my team huddled in a corner, I decided to do the RM8 Guardian thing. The extra benefit of course is that I got that Kill 3 mechs with no damage task, and technically, I killed like 21 of them. I’m only having limited success when the blues decide it’s their turn to huddle and there’s one or two OP human hangars on the other side. They always seem to turn their guns on ME, so I can’t just shoot the other fish in a barrel inverting on the blue campers. I’ve tried both RM’s and javs, and it always comes down to how good and how many the human players are on each side. If you’re lucky enough to get all AI, whether they’re camping or swarming, they all end up in one place and you can pick them off at will. But just one good, OP human red player joining the hunt will ruin your plans in a hurry. Get two of them and a blue team full of corner campers, you’re gonna have a bad time. Yeah... out of the 3 games I have played during all this, only one has had a human... was a more normal score for that one since he was good player... not OP though, I'd say we were similarly matched in skill.
But yeah, if you get all AI... it's a freaking turkey shoot.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Oct 27, 2020 17:44:10 GMT -5
Iâm only having limited success when the blues decide itâs their turn to huddle and thereâs one or two OP human hangars on the other side. They always seem to turn their guns on ME, so I canât just shoot the other fish in a barrel inverting on the blue campers. Iâve tried both RMâs and javs, and it always comes down to how good and how many the human players are on each side. If youâre lucky enough to get all AI, whether theyâre camping or swarming, they all end up in one place and you can pick them off at will. But just one good, OP human red player joining the hunt will ruin your plans in a hurry. Get two of them and a blue team full of corner campers, youâre gonna have a bad time. Yeah... out of the 3 games I have played during all this, only one has had a human... was a more normal score for that one since he was good player... not OP though, I'd say we were similarly matched in skill. But yeah, if you get all AI... it's a freaking turkey shoot.
I don’t know how you guys are doing it. I must be the lucky one getting all the humans, I guess. I just got 3 more games of blue campers and red swarmers, and one red human that ended up with 29 「fluffernutter」ing kills. Best I could get was 9, because I had to keep trying to dodge his mortar fire (which I wasn’t very successful at). This has been pure utter bull「dookie」 today. Oops, I sit corrected - 16 kills, 9 with Killshot. But how the hell am I supposed to compete with this.   |
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I managed to force the draw.
