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Post by foxypotato on May 23, 2020 13:36:13 GMT -5
Just curious to see what is everyone's working counter to the Ravana.
Storm Ravana: I have found my taser ghost Lancelot to be effective. I have no ability to wait out and the Ravana isn't so fast that it can break lock on the tasers. I have a level 2 fortifiyer to boost the shield strength. Storm Ravana have to get point blank to kill and the tasers get a massive damage boost at point blank which is helpful in killing the Ravana.
Cryo rocket Ravana: Dont have one. My Lance gets smoked by anything with rockets and this is no different. I may have to put my Ancile on to protect against rockets but they can still run into the Ancile bubble and guaranteed to do so with the upcoming dash module.
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Post by kingdmm on May 23, 2020 13:45:03 GMT -5
Kinda off topic, but what league are you in? I rarely see people running silver bots around nowadays.
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Post by foxypotato on May 23, 2020 13:55:36 GMT -5
Kinda off topic, but what league are you in? I rarely see people running silver bots around nowadays. Fringe Champions League between 5000 and 5200 cups. The silver bots with silver weapons is my primary hangar. I'm taking a break from it to play a different hangar.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on May 23, 2020 14:02:28 GMT -5
Kinda off topic, but what league are you in? I rarely see people running silver bots around nowadays. I’m deep in Champ League and I see Pattons and Natashas and Stalkers and Gareths and Leos and such all the time. It has been like this since the merger, and I feel sorry for them
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Post by S1E1 on May 23, 2020 14:11:07 GMT -5
Rime-Glacier Strider works really well. Haechis with the legendary pilot equipped are also pretty effective. Running Scourges on mine. One-on-one up-close against a Ravana is very difficult as they can get inside the shield. You want 100-150m more than say 50m between you and them. But even up-close they struggle with Haechis and if you have a teammate with you then you got them. The combo of the shields, the DR and the dashes is just too much.
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Post by foxypotato on May 23, 2020 14:18:24 GMT -5
Kinda off topic, but what league are you in? I rarely see people running silver bots around nowadays. I’m deep in Champ League and I see Pattons and Natashas and Stalkers and Gareths and Leos and such all the time. It has been like this since the merger, and I feel sorry for them I wouldn't. They are probably running those bots on purpose knowing that they are at a disadvantage. Some players just like to run bots they like and have fun rather than participate in the competitive aspect of the game. Smart move too. Pix is manipulative towards the players trying to reach and end game state by constantly releasing new content that one ups the last forcing purchasing of the new items to once again reach the end game state. I hear it all the time here. Players pass on running bots they like and enjoy to peruse the meta because they "have to" in order to "compete" or not let their clan down. They end up disgusted and quit the game wishing they had never spent a dime. Imagine playing a game you hate playing with bots you hate because you think you have to.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 23, 2020 14:28:18 GMT -5
Like Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ said before and you hinted at above, Tasers are the basis for most counter Ravana builds... from what I have seen. I even threw the Cataclysm I won on my Arthur mainly to deal with those little ?fluffernutter?ers when they start ankle biting my poor legs. Was happy with shelving it but the Ravs have gotten a bit out of hand.
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Post by reconnecting on May 23, 2020 14:43:17 GMT -5
My Fenrir can take down a Ravana if only by outlasting them. It has mk2/12 Scourges and Avenger for good firepower. Three HAKs, active healing, Wodenson Legendary pilot, plus Tough Guy and Mechanic make it a tough nut to crack. I just wait when Ravanas glow is active then fire away. Rinse and repeat as needed.
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Post by Joopiter on May 23, 2020 15:13:00 GMT -5
Traditionalist Falcon is a cheap and effective counter. Use Glacier or Glory on it and you'll get some good shots while it's deciding whether or not to run it's ability again or keep firing on your crazy health with advanced healing.
I'm surprised we haven't seen more of resurgence or T-Fals, but that day will definitely come when the scorpion is released. On the TS, it was a real pain teleporting on to a bot to find out it was a T-fal.
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Post by Desc440 on May 23, 2020 15:18:45 GMT -5
All tanks are pretty solid against Ravs. Since my hangar is almost/all tanks, I make it my mission to hunt down Ravs when I see one.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on May 23, 2020 15:21:21 GMT -5
I’m deep in Champ League and I see Pattons and Natashas and Stalkers and Gareths and Leos and such all the time. It has been like this since the merger, and I feel sorry for them I wouldn't. They are probably running those bots on purpose knowing that they are at a disadvantage. Some players just like to run bots they like and have fun rather than participate in the competitive aspect of the game. Smart move too. Pix is manipulative towards the players trying to reach and end game state by constantly releasing new content that one ups the last forcing purchasing of the new items to once again reach the end game state. I hear it all the time here. Players pass on running bots they like and enjoy to peruse the meta because they "have to" in order to "compete" or not let their clan down. They end up disgusted and quit the game wishing they had never spent a dime. Imagine playing a game you hate playing with bots you hate because you think you have to. That isn’t the only reason. There are probably also a bunch of people who were quickly pushed up leagues and unable to acquire or upgrade stuff quickly enough. That is exactly my own situation with my kids account. Almost in Champ League with totally inadequate equipment
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Post by Mig-Am on May 23, 2020 16:28:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't. They are probably running those bots on purpose knowing that they are at a disadvantage. Some players just like to run bots they like and have fun rather than participate in the competitive aspect of the game. Smart move too. Pix is manipulative towards the players trying to reach and end game state by constantly releasing new content that one ups the last forcing purchasing of the new items to once again reach the end game state. I hear it all the time here. Players pass on running bots they like and enjoy to peruse the meta because they "have to" in order to "compete" or not let their clan down. They end up disgusted and quit the game wishing they had never spent a dime. Imagine playing a game you hate playing with bots you hate because you think you have to. That isn’t the only reason. There are probably also a bunch of people who were quickly pushed up leagues and unable to acquire or upgrade stuff quickly enough. That is exactly my own situation with my kids account. Almost in Champ League with totally inadequate equipment Same with my two kids who ended up in master league with mostly level 1.8 equipment. One restarted under another account but mostly plays skirmishes anyway. The other found other games to play after getting hammered a bunch of times while also being Ag starved into not upgrading a Viper-Glacier falcon he ad been planning/working on for a few months. Both are F2P so from a pure business perspective it has zero impact on Pixonic, they don't even get to sell adds to them since they play on Amazon tablets. The game is designed that way, obviously with the input of smart people with some psychology background. So are many other online games. That was explained to my kids, good lesson learned for them. (And I spend some pocket change on this game understanding it will most likely just lead me to another plateau) Back on topic : 2 Bulwarks +1 Fenrir = Not much problems with Ravana yet, also I see less AJs except late game against Titans, so fine with me
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Post by CarlosDanger on May 23, 2020 16:31:25 GMT -5
Anything with a large fire time or heavy damage, scourge, flames shotties seem to work for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 16:32:21 GMT -5
Atomizers/Quarkers/Nucleons
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on May 23, 2020 16:46:58 GMT -5
Counting... 1,2,3 fire or 1,2,3,4,5 for PS
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Post by foxypotato on May 23, 2020 17:55:07 GMT -5
I wouldn't. They are probably running those bots on purpose knowing that they are at a disadvantage. Some players just like to run bots they like and have fun rather than participate in the competitive aspect of the game. Smart move too. Pix is manipulative towards the players trying to reach and end game state by constantly releasing new content that one ups the last forcing purchasing of the new items to once again reach the end game state. I hear it all the time here. Players pass on running bots they like and enjoy to peruse the meta because they "have to" in order to "compete" or not let their clan down. They end up disgusted and quit the game wishing they had never spent a dime. Imagine playing a game you hate playing with bots you hate because you think you have to. That isn’t the only reason. There are probably also a bunch of people who were quickly pushed up leagues and unable to acquire or upgrade stuff quickly enough. That is exactly my own situation with my kids account. Almost in Champ League with totally inadequate equipment I'll argue that the equipment takes you there and keeps you there then it is not inadequate.
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Post by Mig-Am on May 23, 2020 20:46:17 GMT -5
That isn’t the only reason. There are probably also a bunch of people who were quickly pushed up leagues and unable to acquire or upgrade stuff quickly enough. That is exactly my own situation with my kids account. Almost in Champ League with totally inadequate equipment I'll argue that the equipment takes you there and keeps you there then it is not inadequate. You don't even need equipment anymore to get pushed up leagues, you just need to show up and play. Take my second account for example : 1 leadhose Gareth, 2 leadhose Leos (one had a thunder until recently), 1 RDB Griffin, everything is level 1.7 : got pushed to expert league by level 26 (ie no titan). If I had kept leveling my silver weapons, I would have ended in master league fast I'm sure. And I play maybe 2 hours a week with that account, maybe less.
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Post by [WÎČK] Cap’nAHAB on May 23, 2020 21:03:58 GMT -5
1,2,3,shoot. 1,2,3,shoot. 1,2,3,shoot. PS. Shoot. 1,2,3,shoot.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 23, 2020 21:10:45 GMT -5
I’m deep in Champ League and I see Pattons and Natashas and Stalkers and Gareths and Leos and such all the time. It has been like this since the merger, and I feel sorry for them I wouldn't. They are probably running those bots on purpose knowing that they are at a disadvantage. Some players just like to run bots they like and have fun rather than participate in the competitive aspect of the game. Smart move too. Pix is manipulative towards the players trying to reach and end game state by constantly releasing new content that one ups the last forcing purchasing of the new items to once again reach the end game state. I hear it all the time here. Players pass on running bots they like and enjoy to peruse the meta because they "have to" in order to "compete" or not let their clan down. They end up disgusted and quit the game wishing they had never spent a dime. Imagine playing a game you hate playing with bots you hate because you think you have to. Sure, I sometimes see tankers playing sub-12 silver gear, with 5k victories, >2M max damage, etc. But I frequently see fully legit Masters League and even EL solo players in my matches 3-4 slot hanger, silver gear (sometimes a couple/few Loot box lucky wins), <<1k wins, etc. These players are just playing the best gear they have been able to acquire. I’m Champions League 8 atm, with >60k Champions League players there is no reason for MM to toss these players into mid-Champions League battles. I can only conclude that Pix squeezes enough revenue out of the poor schlubs to make up for the player attrition that these MM shenanigans must cause.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 23, 2020 21:28:29 GMT -5
That isn’t the only reason. There are probably also a bunch of people who were quickly pushed up leagues and unable to acquire or upgrade stuff quickly enough. That is exactly my own situation with my kids account. Almost in Champ League with totally inadequate equipment I'll argue that the equipment takes you there and keeps you there then it is not inadequate. If MM (not equipment) keeps advancing a player’s league like it’s been doing since the merge, the gear becomes inadequate. Maybe some players get a kick out of it, but it’s not fun for me to walk through some poor level 8 Natty w my Blitz, and it sure as hell isn’t fun for them. [text deleted prior to posting as a ban-mitigation measure]
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on May 23, 2020 21:30:34 GMT -5
1,2,3,shoot. 1,2,3,shoot. 1,2,3,shoot. Phase Shift. Shoot. 1,2,3,shoot. It helps if you silently say “Ravana” in between each count. 1 Ravana, 2 Ravana... You could use the classic ‘Mississippi’ but that’s not very War Robots-ish.
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Post by foxypotato on May 23, 2020 23:21:53 GMT -5
I'll argue that the equipment takes you there and keeps you there then it is not inadequate. If MM (not equipment) keeps advancing a player’s league like it’s been doing since the merge, the gear becomes inadequate. Maybe some players get a kick out of it, but it’s not fun for me to walk through some poor level 8 Natty w my Blitz, and it sure as hell isn’t fun for them. [text deleted prior to posting as a ban-mitigation measure] I live on the edge of Champions League. You can play well with poor equipment and still make it into Champions League. To say that the MM pushes people up is to say that a high win rate via the MM pushes people up. I've gone into Champions League multiple time running level 10 silver bots with silver weapons at a less than 40% win rate. You don't just get automatically pushed up. Yes you can get there with level 8 bots and weapons as long as they are newer than a Lancelot but that is were you belong. That's where is the newer (2017+) gear belongs. Lower leagues are for Legacy bots and those who do not know how to play the game. Those who know how to play and running Legacy or even handicapped legacy can still get into Champions League. Been there and done that. I have a closet full of the shirts.
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Post by foxypotato on May 23, 2020 23:27:36 GMT -5
I'll argue that the equipment takes you there and keeps you there then it is not inadequate. You don't even need equipment anymore to get pushed up leagues, you just need to show up and play. Take my second account for example : 1 leadhose Gareth, 2 leadhose Leos (one had a thunder until recently), 1 RDB Griffin, everything is level 1.7 : got pushed to expert league by level 26 (ie no titan). If I had kept leveling my silver weapons, I would have ended in master league fast I'm sure. And I play maybe 2 hours a week with that account, maybe less. Keep going and push for Champions League with silver bots and silver weapons. It's a fun challenge. No gold or component weapons or bots and use a leveled stock config Kid titan or no titan.
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Post by foxypotato on May 23, 2020 23:38:44 GMT -5
Traditionalist Falcon is a cheap and effective counter. Use Glacier or Glory on it and you'll get some good shots while it's deciding whether or not to run it's ability again or keep firing on your crazy health with advanced healing. I'm surprised we haven't seen more of resurgence or T-Fals, but that day will definitely come when the scorpion is released. On the TS, it was a real pain teleporting on to a bot to find out it was a T-fal. What about the new infinity ammo meme laser machine guns? Is the heavy slot one a good match for the Tfalc? When I think of burst weapons like freeze rockets I think of hide and seek bots than can unload burst DPS and flee. Sustained damage or DPM builds are that I associate with tanky bots. Leadhose, Scourge ect.
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Post by Joopiter on May 23, 2020 23:48:54 GMT -5
Traditionalist Falcon is a cheap and effective counter. Use Glacier or Glory on it and you'll get some good shots while it's deciding whether or not to run it's ability again or keep firing on your crazy health with advanced healing. I'm surprised we haven't seen more of resurgence or T-Fals, but that day will definitely come when the scorpion is released. On the TS, it was a real pain teleporting on to a bot to find out it was a T-fal. What about the new infinity ammo meme laser machine guns? Is the heavy slot one a good match for the Tfalc? When I think of burst weapons like freeze rockets I think of hide and seek bots than can unload burst DPS and flee. Sustained damage or DPM builds are that I associate with tanky bots. Leadhose, Scourge ect. Word on the street is the nucleon isn't so hot. Atomizer and quarker are good but the heavy has issues. That's what I've heard from people that have been using them.
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on May 24, 2020 0:52:00 GMT -5
Counting... 1,2,3 fire or 1,2,3,4,5 for Phase Shift Good tactic, and surprisingly effective in my experience. Btw, PS lasts 3 sec
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 1:01:20 GMT -5
I prefer extremely high damage burst weapons (like Glaciers and shotguns) hitting them exactly as they exit their abilities, and saving my ammo if they simply phase again. I do not know a better way of killing them.
Regarding beacons - tanks and flying Nightingales are excellent at keeping beacons safe from Ravanas.
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on May 24, 2020 1:06:33 GMT -5
Against Ravanas I find weapons with high DPM but low reload quite effective. Weapons like Ember and Calamity work well against them for me.
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Post by CarlosDanger on May 24, 2020 1:53:19 GMT -5
At the moment my invader with fire not only holds up well against far outlevelled Ravanas, it does well against leeches too.
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Post by ʂɬɛɛƖ on May 24, 2020 5:39:11 GMT -5
Counting... 1,2,3 fire or 1,2,3,4,5 for Phase Shift Good tactic, and surprisingly effective in my experience. Btw, Phase Shift lasts 3 sec Almost everyone runs modules expert, thus extending the duration. At least in high champs
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