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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 12:18:04 GMT -5
Some games this morning with sorry efforts by my blue team got me thinking. I saw multiple heavy slow (camper) bots and started to realize that my hanger is significantly faster than many of these. I realized that I've progressively made my hanger faster to compensate for the fact that I'm constantly running around (solo play only) trying to cap/recap beacons like a chicken with his head chopped off. I really wish that average beacons capped was a part of the stats collected/displayed on someone's player screen. Back on track...I wanted to gauge my hanger speed and see how it compares to others to see if I'm imagining things. Ok, this one's going to require some math and I'll lay out the ground rules. There are 2 speed calculations necessary here. Base speed and weighted speed. Base speed is easy. look up the unboosted, unaided speed rating of each bot in your primary hanger, add them up and divide by the number of slots (average hanger speed base). Mine is like this: BASE:Phantom - 60 Blitz - 55 Blitz - 55 Ao Jun - 45 Leech - 55 Hanger average = 54 kphThen is the weighted average speed. There are a lot of factors that play into this including ability improvements, pilot skills, ability times and cool down times. However, I'm going to try to simplify this. First, multiply all non-ability based, pilot skill speeds (yes, this includes Adament Road Hog...presumably, you know that this is a feature of your bot and you'll drop it when you're down a beacon and can use it). Road Hog, Spy, Ghost, etc. Next, (and this is where the simplification comes in) if your ability causes you go even faster, then multiply that by 1.2. Some abilities give more than 20% and some less, but this seems a decent average. This includes basic speed boosts like the Phantom and Blitz receive, dashes, rush or anything like that. We can argue about what this will be until the cows come home, but for the simple purposes of calculating a number, let's just stick with a simple 1.2 for now. Also, don't include the blue speed booster. Obviously everything will be 10% faster if you do that, but that doesn't help for comparison's sake. Also, round to the nearest tenth of a kph My weighted looks like this WEIGHTED:Phantom (RH) - (60 * 1.065) * 1.2 = 76.7 Blitz (RH) - (55 * 1.065) * 1.2 = 70.3 Blitz (RH) - (55 * 1.065) * 1.2 = 70.3 Ao Jun (RH, AdRH) - (45 * (1.065 + 1.2)) * 1.2 = 68.3 Leech (RH, AdRH, Legendary Pilot skill) - (55 * (1.065 + 1.2)) * 1.2 = 83.5 Hanger weighted average = 73.8 kphThis number is fake but it holds significance in that it shows that my hanger plays much faster than it's base speed. I'm interested to see how "fast" other people's hangers are. If you need help with the math (*cough*, ѻﻭɼﻉ , *cough*) post your base numbers and pilot skills and someone with a calculator will help. |
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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 12:24:52 GMT -5
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Post by fiannaidhe on May 20, 2020 12:26:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 12:27:57 GMT -5
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 20, 2020 12:32:06 GMT -5
Ghost Lance is throwing a wrench in this... gotta do math just to get the damned base speed.
I know it's easy math... but I want to 「female dog」 about something.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 12:32:30 GMT -5
55 + 11.5%
60 + 6.5%
55 + 11.5% (20% >3 Beacons)
60 + 6.5% (20% >3 Beacons)
50 + 10% (20% >3 Beacons)
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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 12:35:23 GMT -5
55 + 11% 60 + 6.5% 55 + 11% (20% >3 Beacons) 60 + 6.5% (20% >3 Beacons) 50 + 10% (20% >3 Beacons) What bots are those? Also, the 11%...is that Road Hog + spy? |
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Post by foxypotato on May 20, 2020 12:38:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 12:44:43 GMT -5
Any pilot skills? I'd totally consider the griffin jump to be additional ability speed. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 12:47:11 GMT -5
55 + 11.5% 60 + 6.5% 55 + 11.5% (20% >3 Beacons) 60 + 6.5% (20% >3 Beacons) 50 + 10% (20% >3 Beacons) What bots are those? Also, the 11%...is that Road Hog + spy? Nightingale, Nightingale, Strider, Ares, Falcon ... my speed, fun, try to hang with the big boys hangar LOL and yes ... Edited: Should be 11.5% |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 20, 2020 12:52:22 GMT -5
Does Nightingale get the 1.2 for its flying? If it does, my average non weighted is 52. Weighted is 70.4. If Nightingale's flight doesn't count it drops to 68.3. EDIT - Hangar is  |
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Post by BB on May 20, 2020 12:57:16 GMT -5
 This may take a few days, what’s the deadline? ? |
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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 12:59:16 GMT -5
What bots are those? Also, the 11%...is that Road Hog + spy? Nightingale, Nightingale, Strider, Ares, Falcon ... my speed, fun, try to hang with the big boys hangar LOL and yes ... Edited: Should be 11.5% Ok, got it. Base is 57 kph which looks to be pretty good. Weighted is Nightingale - (55 * 1.165) * 1.2) = 76.9 Nightingale - (55 * 1.365) * 1.2) = 90.1 Strider - (60 * 1.065) * 1.2 = 76.7 Ares - (60 * 1.265) = 75.9 Falcon - (50 * 1.3) * 1.2 = 78 Weighted avg is 79.5! Very impressive! |
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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 13:00:34 GMT -5
Does Nightingale get the 1.2 for its flying? If it does, my average non weighted is 52. Weighted is 70.4. If Nightingale's flight doesn't count it drops to 68.3. Yes, wiki says there is a speed boost during ability, though I didn't find what it is. I applied it to @gza's speed numbers. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 20, 2020 13:01:57 GMT -5
Does Nightingale get the 1.2 for its flying? If it does, my average non weighted is 52. Weighted is 70.4. If Nightingale's flight doesn't count it drops to 68.3. Yes, wiki says there is a speed boost during ability, though I didn't find what it is. I applied it to @gza 's speed numbers. Gotcha... edited post while waiting forever for your reply to reflect both possibilities  |
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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 13:02:30 GMT -5
This may take a few days, what’s the deadline? ? No deadline and you know yours is going to be easy. All striders/rogs/ssacks. Unless Ned has finally started mixing his hangers...lol That Fenrir is going to drag your numbers way down though. lol |
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Post by foxypotato on May 20, 2020 13:04:15 GMT -5
Any pilot skills? I'd totally consider the griffin jump to be additional ability speed. They all have road hog. Natasha has both road hog and adamant road hog. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 13:05:08 GMT -5
Nightingale, Nightingale, Strider, Ares, Falcon ... my speed, fun, try to hang with the big boys hangar LOL and yes ... Edited: Should be 11.5% Ok, got it. Base is 57 kph which looks to be pretty good. Weighted is Nightingale - (55 * 1.165) * 1.2) = 76.9 Nightingale - (55 * 1.365) * 1.2) = 90.1 Strider - (60 * 1.065) * 1.2 = 76.7 Ares - (60 * 1.265) = 75.9 Falcon - (50 * 1.3) * 1.2 = 78 Weighted avg is 79.5! Very impressive! I need to be quick dude to have any chance of winning LOL Thanks by the way for the calculations! |
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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 13:14:32 GMT -5
Any pilot skills? I'd totally consider the griffin jump to be additional ability speed. They all have road hog. Natasha has both road hog and adamant road hog. Got it. Base is 37.4 Weighted: Griff - (38 * 1.1) * 1.2 = 50.2 Griff - (38 * 1.1) * 1.2 = 50.2 Natty - (38 * 1.3) = 49.4 Leo - (38 * 1.1) = 41.8 Patton - (35 * 1.1) = 38.5 Weighted is 46.0. Your hanger is much faster than it looks at first glance. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 20, 2020 13:16:13 GMT -5
I appreciate that this gave me something to do that didn't require too much thought during a webinar I had to attend... Cheers!
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 13:20:28 GMT -5
I appreciate that this gave me something to do that didn't require too much thought during a webinar I had to attend... Cheers! Powerpoint + Zoom? Yaaaaaakkkkkkk |
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on May 20, 2020 13:33:03 GMT -5
Couldn't we have just voted?
Like;
-Slow as 「dookie」
-I'll get there when I get there
-average
-fast
-hacking 「illegitimate child」
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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 13:45:09 GMT -5
Couldn't we have just voted? Like; -Slow as ?dookie? -I'll get there when I get there -average -fast -hacking ?illegitimate child? Meh, polls are for cat lovers and politicians. I'm an engineer! I have to make it complicated (dispite the fact that I tried to simplify it...hehe). |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 13:52:23 GMT -5
Well, I usually lose beacons to slugs and turtles...lol
But, seriously....
Raven: 50 - 7.5%
Ravana: 50
Ao Jun: 45
Falcon: 50
Tyr: 46
Most pilot skills are centered on toughening up my mechs, not speeding them up.
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Post by spectre729 on May 20, 2020 13:52:40 GMT -5
my fastest bot is a rhino
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on May 20, 2020 13:52:45 GMT -5
Jeesh, Deadeye! All that AM/Arthur testing last night got your science juices flowing? Phantom w/RH Falcon w/big slow feet Ao Jun w/RH Nightingale w/Spy, RH, and ARH Loki w/RH and ARH I'll have a great average except for the Falcon. |
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Post by Loganspawn on May 20, 2020 13:57:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 14:12:13 GMT -5
Well, I usually lose beacons to slugs and turtles...lol But, seriously.... Raven: 50 - 7.5% Ravana: 50 Ao Jun: 45 Falcon: 50 Tyr: 46 Most pilot skills are centered on toughening up my mechs, not speeding them up. I think the Raven RH skill is only 6.5%. If I'm wrong, that would be an unique skill number as I've ever only seen 6.5% or 10%. NM, forgot cautious pilot Base is 48.2 Weighted is Raven - (50 * 0.925) * 1.2 = 55.5 Ravana - 50 * 1.2 = 60 Ao Jun - 45 * 1.2 = 54 Falcon - 50 * 1.2 = 60 (it jumps) Tyr - 46 * 1.2 = 55.2 Weighted is 56.9 Edited to fix Raven numbers. Tee Hee |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on May 20, 2020 14:13:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deadeye on May 20, 2020 14:20:21 GMT -5
Jeesh, Deadeye ! All that AM/Arthur testing last night got your science juices flowing? Phantom w/RH Falcon w/big slow feet Ao Jun w/RH Nightingale w/Spy, RH, and ARH Loki w/RH and ARH I'll have a great average except for the Falcon. Phantom - 60 * 1.065 * 1.2 = 76.7 Falcon - 50 * 1.2 = 60 Ao Jun - 45 * 1.065 * 1.2 = 57.5 Nightingale - 55 * 1.365 * 1.2 = 90.1 Loki = 50 * 1.265 * 1.2 = 75.9 (I think the reality of how the Loki is played means this is lower than it should be, but I'll stick with the forumula) Base is 58.0 Weighted is 72.0 |
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